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posted 2019-Jan-15, 1:48 pm
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PLE also have a bundle running with a free Cooler Master mechanical keyboard.

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/633434/Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-2060--FREE-Cooler-Master-Keyboard?KitId=633434&kc-7335=634492&kc-7335-qty=1&kc-7336=628592&kc-7336-qty=1&kc-7337=629208&kc-7337-qty=1

With this and Anthem included its a no-brainer for me, I've been in the market for a new keyboard too.

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 1:54 pm
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Manatoba writes...

People will want to buy them up before prices jump up even more. This year and the next or two are going to be shockers.

What will cause prices to increase? I thought they were already sky high.

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stv writes...

What will cause prices to increase?

New tarrifs are likely to cause some of it and the price of gddr6 vram is high.

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lyricalliar01 writes...

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/633434/Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-2060--FREE-Cooler-Master-Keyboard?KitId=633434&kc-7335=634492&kc-7335-qty=1&kc-7336=628592&kc-7336-qty=1&kc-7337=629208&kc-7337-qty=1

With this and Anthem included its a no-brainer for me, I've been in the market for a new keyboard too.

How do you know this one has the free Anthem code?

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 2:55 pm
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Tangles writes...

How do you know this one has the free Anthem code?

This bundle is on PLE's page for the promotion:

https://www.ple.com.au/NV-BFV-ANTHEM?utm_source=frontpage&utm_source=web&utm_source=banner483

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 3:10 pm
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Thanks.

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stv writes...

virtually the exact same performance.

2080 is a bit faster.

According to this analysis the cost per performance is worse for the 20 series than previous series though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CG9j5cIXjM

stv writes...

I buy the best of any generation

Well, I mean you aren't a value for money buyer so I'm not sure what you expected. If you're buying the best you should be looking at the Titan RTX which is even worse value for money.

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 5:18 pm
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BTW, the Titan RTX is finally available to Australia, on the NVidia AU site. That took way too long.

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 8:42 pm
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Ok, the new NVidia drivers are up, version v417.71:

Gaming Technology
Includes support for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 graphics cards as well as support for G-SYNC compatible monitors

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posted 2019-Jan-15, 10:14 pm
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RTX – what a con. Can't believe people getting sucked into it. But whatever floats your boat.

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Diji1 writes...

you should be looking at the Titan RTX which is even worse value for money

I draw the line at Titan's but I definitely consider the ti series.

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Crispy81 writes...

RTX – what a con. Can't believe people getting sucked into it. But whatever floats your boat.

What is the con? It is extra technology there to be used. It does what it states. Also definitely not worth it now to buy specifically for the new RTX tech when there is only one RT title and a handful of DLSS titles.

Also finding a bit weird how people are using the single currently available example of a seemingly hastily ported RT title to judge the entirety of the worthiness of having RT in games.

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newtowntpg writes...

Also finding a bit weird how people are using the single currently available example of a seemingly hastily ported RT title to judge the entirety of the worthiness of having RT in games.

The price points are a bit ridiculous atm so you're not going to find many allies for RTX. When heavyweights like Jayztwocent and Linus are criticising the tech for being overpriced, that tends to trickle down to their fanbase and the community.

When AMD start bringing out there own ray tracing cards and the tech becomes the norm, then we'll all start appreciating the tech more.

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Tangles writes...

When heavyweights like Jayztwocent and Linus are criticising the tech for being overpriced

Well the proof is in sales numbers and nVidia's share price. RTX might be a great card but if you sell it way above normal pricing then don't expect a smashing sales success. The time is ripe for AMD to step in and offer a reasonably priced performance alternative – if they can.

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at the moment share price is market driven not idiosyncratic.

if nvidia drops in a bull market it would be worth talking about.

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newtowntpg writes...

What is the con? It is extra technology there to be used. It does what it states.

Totally agree it's not a con. Nvidia needed to release consumer hardware before most game studios would consider developing their games with RTX features. They needed an installed base of customers before taking it seriously – and now they have it.

You're not really paying 'extra' for RTX, you're paying for the latest and greatest GPU that outperforms all competitors. The RTX capability is a bonus that might not be useful right now, but is likely to be more useful in the future – you certainly aren't forced to use it, and the GPU works great without it.

stv writes...

RTX might be a great card but if you sell it way above normal pricing then don't expect a smashing sales success.

The price will come down – Nvidia took a big risk developing RTX and disrupting the status quo. They were clearly hoping early adopters will pay extra for the new feature, and some have.....but over time, the price will drop to keep sales numbers satisfactory.

stv writes...

The time is ripe for AMD to step in and offer a reasonably priced performance alternative – if they can.

I doubt they're capable of this, to be honest. The Radeon VII was supposed to wow everyone, but it looks like a weak effort to me, and it's not cheap either.

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RTX might not be a "con" but paying the same price or more for basically the same performance as we've had for 2-3 years IS bordering on con.

(ie, the 2080 offers no extra performance for the price point. Pretty much the same thing for 2060 and 2070 – little to no improvement for the same money).

This is a "nothing" generation. No extra value, at all. Worse still, they cap this generation off with a hideously overpriced 2080TI to rip off the people who must have the best.

That being said, we can't blame nvidia too much. AMD are not much worse. They launch their new card with the exact same price as the card it is up against. Now they are part of the problem.

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Radagast SmithBury writes...

This is a "nothing" generation. No extra value, at all. Worse still, they cap this generation off with a hideously overpriced 2080TI to rip off the people who must have the best.

Plenty of features were added to the cards...

The issue is with software and other hardware, problem being it's early stages and Nvidia looks like they kicked these features off, so the other components need to play catch up (if they want to).

Now if your statement was, to the average gamer there is no tangible benefit, then yep.

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Radagast SmithBury writes...

Pretty much the same thing for 2060 and 2070 – little to no improvement for the same money

Simply not true – or at least, not in all cases.

RTX 2060 launch price is $350 USD, and is slightly better than a GTX 1070Ti in performance, which launched at $450 USD.

So you get better performance, with 10% less power usage, lower temps and RTX capability.....for $100 less than the previous generation.

RTX 2070 launch price was $500 USD, and is is slightly better than a GTX 1080 in performance, which launched at $550 USD.

Again, you get better performance, with a little less power usage, slightly lower temps and RTX capability.....for $50 less than the previous generation.

How are either of those not a good deal? IMO the 2060 is a bargain, and I'm seriously considering upgrading in a few months time.

GPU pricing is volatile and Australians get the added issue of current variations too, but those are the raw facts.

If you expected the new generation to be priced the same as the current prices of the 3-year old designs, you simply had unreasonable expectations. Of course they were going to charge a premium for the new cards.

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klaw81 writes...

You're not really paying 'extra' for RTX, you're paying for the latest and greatest GPU that outperforms all competitors.

The RTX part needs physical die space, so wouldn't that mean your paying a cost increase just based on that alone. It would cost Nvidia more for the larger die, as it would be smaller without RTX, which in turn would then have costs passed down the chain to the customer in the end and that's without factoring in R&D. So I would think you are paying extra for it.