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posted 2025-May-20, 11:02 am
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bitpushr writes...

You haven't been watching GN long enough.

To be honest I haven't due to reasons. I probably went into his latest Nvidia video biased.

Nvidia are dodgy I agree but as you pointed out so are other IT companies. It won't stop unfortunately.

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Notsuree writes...

his obvious pro AMD bias

I have never thought that with Steve and I've been watching his videos for years.

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Notsuree writes...

Nvidia is just pushing back against his obvious pro AMD bias.

I thought you were perhaps confusing Steve with the other Steve from Hardware unboxed.

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posted 2025-May-20, 11:27 am
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bitpushr writes...

UDNA supposedly returns to the high-end from AMD

I really hope so, a 9900XTX or whatever they call it, will be nice.

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Ziz writes...

I thought you were perhaps confusing Steve with the other Steve from Hardware unboxed.

To be fair, it can be confusing at times, especially when they're both standing for a review.

Crispy81 writes...

I really hope so, a 9900XTX or whatever they call it, will be nice.

For sure, as long as it's not a botched launch. I try not to give AMD too much credit, RDNA4's launch was the first time they didn't manage to screw up in quite a while. It's an important thing for AMD to get down, I don't think they're going to be anywhere near the level Nvidia is on in the near future but with each generation Intel's Arc GPUs get better. Objects in rear view are closer than they appear.

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bitpushr writes...

To be fair, it can be confusing at times, especially when they're both standing for a review.

True :)

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posted 2025-May-20, 12:30 pm
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Steve nails it in the video. Thx Steve.

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That pgrid website is showing an Asus 5080 from Amazon for $699. Can't be accurate unless it was listed for the wrong price momentarily on Amazon?

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Ziz writes...

Steve with the other Steve from Hardware unboxed

Nah, if I remember correctly, Notsuree refers to Hardware Unboxed as 'AMDUnboxed'.

I often wonder if he runs UserBenchmarks as a side hustle ;)

bitpushr writes...

I try not to give AMD too much credit

Over 90% of the praise towards AMD by tech-media (and consumers) has been towards their CPU-division since 2016/2017, with the goated AM4 socket (which lives on and thrives in new sales) and the continuing success with the AM5 socket. I find it funny when someone calls out bias towards AMD, when most of their praise is deserved (for saving us from Intels rubbish). And apart from the 9070XT (initially, they then called out the whole fake-msrp thing, etc, etc), and maybe a couple others, most of their recent GPU-launches have been negatively received due to shoddy launch pricing – with the GPUs only being praised much later down the track as budget kings when their prices are slashed (i.e, 6000 series). Even with the CPU-division, both Nexus and Unboxed still called them out with shoddy marketing (so-called gaming-gains) on the AM4 XT launch last year and both have not shied away from reporting on fried AM5 CPUs in AsRock motherboards. Not really the actions of AMD-biased-fanbois, now, is it?

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That pgrid website is showing an Asus 5080 from Amazon for $699. Can't be accurate unless it was listed for the wrong price momentarily on Amazon?

Take any Amazon listing with a grain of salt as they simply don't vet their third-party vendors enough. Like that 5090 on the other page listed by a vendor that was made just this week. It's probably the same scam vendor listing that 5080.

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Scam Amazon storefront listed dodgy deals

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posted 2025-May-20, 1:56 pm
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Lebowski writes...

ah, if I remember correctly, Notsuree refers to Hardware Unboxed as 'AMDUnboxed'.

You are most def thinking of someone else lad.

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Notsuree writes...

Just run the games and benchmarks at each setting like everyone else and publish the results.

I don't like how Nvidia gets to control the effective narrative by swaying games and technologies in their favour and forcing reviewers and benchmarkers to hit certain key points.

That to me is inherently bias.

I would rather quality benchmarks, rather than cheery picked benchmarks. Otherwise it might as well be first party only. Ideally, in my mind. A benchmark video would contain all the settings, qualities and test conditions one might run into and the video would be useful to an end user to gauge a product stack or refine their settings on their own machines. With a showcase of the best and the worst a product has to offer. If Nvidia says "ssh, ignore X game or include X technology to hide X limitation" that is not ideal and I don't think that is in the best interest of consumers.

I'm fine with AI being used and sold to us, although I want both non-AI and AI benchmarks.

Nvidia is just pushing back against his obvious pro AMD bias.

I've never once thought Steve was bias towards AMD. There is countless videos regarding AMDs shortcomings and issues over the years.

I've watched GN for basically as long as hes being doing tech content. I think he can be a bit of an egotist at times, although I don't think there is some hidden agenda / bias really. He's called out every company possible.

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Notsuree writes...

GN playing the activist. Has always had a hate for anything AI with his constant "fake frames" joke. Just run the games and benchmarks at each setting like everyone else and publish the results

Because they are. It's motion smoothing not free performance. I would trust GN over Nvidias own marketing really.

Notsuree writes...

Just pointing out GN have always been pro AMD
His hammered AMD not just on their GPUs but even on a few of their lower end Ryzen chips and their prices as well as the issues they had with the 7000 series. His not pro anyone unless it's a good product and even when it is he will find nitpicks.

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Well seems a nerve has been a struck after watching a GN video I would normally avoid.

Apologies all :) I'll blissfully go back to userbenchmark Doom now.

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You have to expect these things when you besmirch TechJesus.

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Notsuree writes...

Apologies all :) I'll blissfully go back to Doom now

A good game to go back to :)

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new drivers 576.52
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/245673/
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Gaming Technology
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[Diablo II Resurrected] Game displays black screen corruption when using DLSS [5264112]
[SCUM] Game may crash after updating to R575 drivers [5257319]
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Fixed General Bugs
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Lebowski writes...

Nah, if I remember correctly, Notsuree refers to Hardware Unboxed as 'AMDUnboxed'.

I know who your referring to be I don’t think notsuree is the guy.

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Notsuree writes...

Doom now

It's on my to-play list, for sure.

Ziz writes...

I know who your referring to be I don’t think notsuree is the guy.

Ah, yeah. I got a good chuckle out of it, tbh. 'AMDUnboxed' has a nice sound to it.

rupx writes...

I don't like how Nvidia gets to control the effective narrative by swaying games and technologies in their favour and forcing reviewers and benchmarkers to hit certain key points.

100%. All these companies have BS marketing accompanying their releases, including AMD – but we've always had the tech-tubers and other sources there to cut through the marketing BS so that we as the consumer know what is going on. Especially when sometimes the marketing BS is quite convincing at first glance (aka not 5070ti = 4090). Last thing we want is for these companies to be influencing reviews through malpractices such as those detailed in the GN video.

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Lebowski writes...

Ah, yeah. I got a good chuckle out of it, tbh. 'AMDUnboxed' has a nice sound to it.

Yeah Steve from hardware unboxed tends to be more pro AMD. Steve from Gamers Nexus tends to remain more neutral on most things atleast thats how i perceive it.