I'm still getting my 5080 though.
Yep, everyone is still getting a 50 series card.
Nvidia knows this, and will reward everyone with further enshitification of their hyper expensive products. Next gen will likely be worse (especially price) with no 'lessons learnt'.
We really need AMD to hulk smash now....but that won't happen either because nvidia has locked down foundries. Until manufacturing supply/demand eases, there won't be any change.
Yep, everyone is still getting a 50 series card.
I'm going AMD. But you're right that Nvidia can dress up a turd and it would still sell. Like the 4060 8GB.
Certainly is.. last gen was the melting power cables
4000 series had some other gems, such as having to 'unlaunch' the 4080 12GB.
but that won't happen either because nvidia has locked down foundries
Oh yeah, it's totally Nvidia's fault that AMD can't put out a competitive product at the high end (or at any price point, if you look past pure raster.)
RDNA4 and Blackwell are fabbed on the same TSMC N4P node I believe. Nothing to do with foundries being locked down for Nvidia.
RDNA4 and Blackwell are fabbed on the same TSMC N4P node I believe. Nothing to do with foundries being locked down for Nvidia.
Yeah AMD has plenty of Fab capacity and commercial leverage between their CPU, GPU and console businesses.
For the ROPs issues, couldn't nvidia just release a driver that reports back to any arbitrary number via the API?
I mean, it a shitty thing to do, but no one would know if just few ROPs were missing. I'm sure there's a range for defect tolerances that accept a small number of defective cores out of hundreds. I suspect that, in fact, has been reporting false ROPs for years but the driver department forgot the switch off the debug.
They would; the card would be significantly slower than it was meant to be. A number of reviews had already seen that, but without knowing why.
Reporting the wrong number would be bad because it may be possible that software (and the driver) is using that information and is managing what work to send to the GPU based on that. Having missing units could cause the GPU to bottleneck as it attemtps to handle work it doesn't have the resources for.
You mean like Intel did with its CPU's
Exactly what I was thinking of.
his GPUZ was also showing no Vulcan support.
Huh, that's weird. Did the DDU fix that do you know (I can't find the post)?
nvidia has locked down foundries
RDNA4 and Blackwell are fabbed on the same TSMC N4P node I believe.
Blackwell GPUs are fabbed on 4N, a separate semi-custom derivative of N5 used just for Nvidia. Worth noting this is also separate to TSMC's N4 process which many others (including AMD) are using. This could restrict supply from Nvidia's side depending how you look at it, since TSMC has to allocate a certain amount of wafers to a dedicated process just for Nvidia.
Having missing units could cause the GPU to bottleneck as it attemtps to handle work it doesn't have the resources for.
It also massively opens up Nvidia to a lawsuit for actively trying to hide something. Unless it was done from the very first non-internal driver version released outside of Nvidia, someone would have noticed whether press (differences in press vs public drivers) or the public. Whether that's enough for something to be done though...
It also massively opens up Nvidia to a lawsuit for actively trying to hide something.
yeah, lying about doing something is generally considered to be far worse than actually doing it, as it confirms the intent.
yeah, lying about doing something is generally considered to be far worse than actually doing it, as it confirms the intent.
It's 2025, not 2005.
We're all now desensitised to lies, half truths, and totally bonkers conspiracy stuff. I doubt we'd bat an eye if nvidia did a bit of shoddy...maybe a day of forum whinning, but that's it. We'll still buy it.
Huh, that's weird. Did the DDU fix that do you know (I can't find the post)?
Yes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvi
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvi
"I buy Nvidia at high prices to enable them to pull off shenanigans just for the purpose of shafting other people that can't afford it".
Actually I just want MFG to take advantage of my 360hz OLED HDR monitor.
We're all now desensitised to lies, half truths, and totally bonkers conspiracy stuff. I doubt we'd bat an eye if nvidia did a bit of shoddy...may a day of forum whinning, but that's it. We'll still buy it.
Well yeah.... complain about the price, winge etc... but still buy it...
If they were taken to court by someone with the time and money, then the fact that they went out of their way to hide the fact would more or less be automatic damages.
Yes.
So strange, wonder if he had a corrupt driver installation or something. Here before the videocardz article claiming Nvidia has removed Vulkan support with the 50-series as well B)
or their will be stock shortages of amds card and higher than msrp prices etc.
Sure hope not.
It's heart breaking reading this thread and looking at online computer shops about the lack of 5000 series supply.
AMD would be wise to at least ensure supply. Pricing is another thing which I'm sure people with fomo will just deal with, assuming their 9070 card is decent.
If anything, having no supply just means I've still got some decent dosh in the bank.
It's heart breaking reading this thread
Is it really heart breaking though? It's a GPU for a computer, which 90% of people are going to use to game. At ~10-30fps more than the current offerings lol.
AMD would be wise to at least ensure supply.
You do reach a point though where having the most supply you've ever had for a product at launch is still not enough due to the current market conditions, and I do worry that this'll ultimately be the case for RDNA4 on launch depending how reviews pan out. I'm not sure just how strong of an option AMD will be for people who were previously set on buying Nvidia, though, so we'll see.
At ~10-30fps more than the current offerings lol.
I get 98fps on my 4070ti in Cyberpunk with Pathtracing, DLSS set to Performance on Transformer.
With the 5080, I will hit 200+fps with MFG, on DLSS Quality.
(on MSI MPG 271QRX OLED HDR)
That's a win for me, and I will pay for it.
Probably. It's getting to the levels of Intel scandal... with the burning connectors
Connector. There is only one confirmed case which affected the GPU power connector, despite a lot of people seemingly hoping for worse.
With the 5080, I will hit 200+fps with MFG, on DLSS Quality.
That's a fair point I suppose, if you can stand the MFG technology.
That's a fair point I suppose, if you can stand the MFG technology.
Exactly this. I can't stand frame interpolation on televisions, and I know most people feel the same. It's quite widely hated.
I don't see why anyone is excited for getting the same thing by a different name on their graphics cards?