I think I will go with the Asus TUF RTX 4080 Super OC from either MSY at about $1810 or Scorptec at $1864.
Which seller is recommended as I am a bit iffy about MSY going by what I have read? Is $54 extra from Scorptec worth it for peace of mind?
Centrecom have the Asus tuf 4080 super for $1765 down to $1715 with the promo code TAXTIME. I had to do a warranty claim with them for a 7900 xtx. They went through the usual process of sending it away to be tested by the manufacturer but I got a refund in the end. So I would say they are okay and about as good as you get with computer stores. They'll also straight up accept returns for a 15% restocking fee for change of mind. As does scorptec. But keep everything in perfect condition, no ripped boxes or lost manuals etc.
If you just want the cheapest 4080 super centrecom, scorptec and pccasegear all have the pny for $1599. It's probably worth the extra $115 to get the Asus though imo.
All to keep one step ahead.
Lastly was my 4090 a week after release, upgraded from a 3080
What model did you buy and how much was it?
Can you recall how long it took for you to be annoyed by a price reduction?
Whirlpool Illuminati writes...
So I would say they are okay and about as good as you get with computer stores. They'll also straight up accept returns for a 15% restocking fee for change of mind. As does scorptec.
Umart and others do change of mind returns for 0% restocking fee. Gives you piece of mind when buying on a whim. This is unopened, so it's not that useful, maybe you bought impulsively due to a sale, then got instant buyers remorse
MSY was acquired by Umart a couple of years ago. They had an iffy reputation before that, but I haven't heard of any issues recently.
I'd say from a couple of purchases including one return that MSY have improved considerably.
Soon :D
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"This week, we are sending out engineering samples of Blackwell all over the world", Jensen @ sigggraph24
Blackwell for DC/Enterprise or Blackwell for GeForce? There's quite the difference between the two, if it's the former then it doesn't really change things from where us consumers sit. But strap in for the next 3-6 months of leaks based on those samples and the absolutely insane 3x uplift the 5090 will surely have over the 4090 according to a guy on Twitter whose Dad is Jensen. In a GPU market where Nvidia is uncontested in the x90 class, no less.
I'm most interested to see how much of an uplift Blackwell is, or isn't, over Ada tbh. Curious if I'll end up being surprised, but I have a suspicion anything under the 5080 will largely be a boring, small generational uplift with GDDR7 slapped on, maybe a small bump in VRAM capacity at each tier if Nvidia is feeling particularly generous this Christmas season (more than likely we get nothing except some new VRAM compression tech so marketing can say "8GB is the new 12GB), and the accompanying price increase to come with it all.
More than happy to be surprised though.
As long as there is a frame/$ uplift of 25% or more I would be happy with a 5090 purchase.
but given your estimate of 20% price increase will you be buying at $4000?
I never buy 2nd hand gpu's but if the 4090 is better than the 5080/super I'd probably be willing to sell my 4080 super and just pick up a 2nd hand 4090 given how much more powerful that is compared to my 4080 super. But you would think a 5080/super would be better than a 4090 wouldn't you?
Whirlpool Illuminati writes...
5080/super would be better than a 4090 wouldn't you?
I have buyer's remorse concerning buying a 4080 Super, purely because prices are getting rather stupid and I'm kind of growing out of gaming....lol at 54 taken its time.
I guess this will be my last GPU.
but given your estimate of 20% price increase will you be buying at $4000?
Based on current $3k price it would need to be a 50% performance increase for $3600 for me to consider it an instant buy.
Just need for AMD’s 9000 3D cache variants to drop.
Last time I was buying I had just stared a new job after being made redundant during Covid, so was conservative and bought a 5600x/3070 build. This time I am going big.
I have buyer's remorse concerning buying a 4080 Super, purely because prices are getting rather stupid and I'm kind of growing out of gaming....lol at 54 taken its time.
Just turned 41 but i can kind of relate. My gaming preferences have certainly changed over the years. My niche has always been sports games and driving games. Not necessarily my favourite games but the games I'm best at lol. First person shooters and Elden ring/souls games don't really do it for me anymore. Dark souls 3 I finished but Elden ring I played for like 10 minutes and noped the flap out lol. You could try a new genre you've never tried before?
I guess this will be my last GPU.
Well if you don't play extremely demanding games and stay at 1440p it could last a good few years. Rouge like/lite games are a good example. Games like Hades, hollow knight etc games of that ilk will be playable for a looong time with a 4080 super. Even emulators for Nintendo switch games which can be a good change of pace.
I agree the prices have gotten out of hand though atleast imo. I was late to PC gaming only switching because I felt like the PS3/360 era went too long and was looking pretty awful and had terrible frame rates. So with no idea what I was doing I put together a PC for about $1100 which was a 2670k with a 560ti 16gb ram and a HDD lol. That was about 2011 at a guess. So now gpu's like the 4090 for $2.5k at release do seem a bit ridiculous to me as well.
I did switch pretty quickly to a 670 which didn't do it for me so I went to crossfire 7970s or 7990s I can't remember which tbh.. but I did some Bitcoin mining back in the day because I had read the amd gpu's were really good for it in crossfire and I just wanted to see what it was about, only did it for a few days because my partner started bitching about the potential power bill when she heard the gpu's running full tilt lol. I can't remember how many Bitcoin I mined but back in 2011 it took about 20 minutes to mine 1 Bitcoin (now it's 10 years for 1 lol) so I mined quite a few.. and I have no idea what website/swarm I joined, where the HDD is or how to access it. So that's pretty cool /s.
Whirlpool Illuminati writes...
if the 4090 is better than the 5080/super I'd probably be willing to sell my 4080 super and just pick up a 2nd hand 4090 given how much more powerful that is compared to my 4080 super. But you would think a 5080/super would be better than a 4090 wouldn't you?
Every Geforce x80-class card has always been superior to the previous flagship in Nvidia’s entire history. They will have to monumentally f- up on purpose for the 5080 to not be faster than the 4090, or at the absolute least be on par with it.
They will have to monumentally f- up on purpose for the 5080 to not be faster than the 4090, or at the absolute least be on par with it.
Is not the variable in this instance the Chinese market? If the 5080 outpaces the 4090 then it cannot be officially/legally sold in China?
If the 5080 outpaces the 4090 then it cannot be officially/legally sold in China?
Correct, they'll be able to get the 5070, which IF the trend holds, will be approximately equal to a 4080, but can not exceed it if Nvidia want to be able to sell it to China.
They will of course be able to eventually get 5080 mobile chips, but I highly doubt they'll get 5090 mobile.
Is not the variable in this instance the Chinese market? If the 5080 outpaces the 4090 then it cannot be officially/legally sold in China?
I really don't think this is an issue for them to affect the rest of their line up for the world. Having separate reduced performance cards for china seems to be working and where they are heading:
Based on current $3k price it would need to be a 50% performance increase for $3600 for me to consider it an instant buy.
Actually I forgot , the advertising was 'from $2995' and then those cards really didn't fall much in value, although the 'premium' models did because they didn't really work any better/faster at sane wattages. I wonder if that will change this release as the card manufacturers must have been very annoyed by that.
If the 5080 outpaces the 4090 then it cannot be officially/legally sold in China?
I can't remember where I heard it, but someone knowledgeable recently said that the trade restrictions are based on the state of the art at the time, not a fixed performance level. i.e. when a more powerful new generation of products is released, the bar will shift.
someone knowledgeable recently said that the trade restrictions are based on the state of the art at the time, not a fixed performance level. i.e. when a more powerful new generation of products is released, the bar will shift.
Yeah I had wondered about this. Otherwise in a few gens they'll be selling just an RTX 8040 in China (-;