Hello, wondering if anyone knows about this site http://ici.edu.au/courses/man
Would a degree from there be worth the paper its printed on? If not are there any pay to learn uni's out that give any opportunity for real employment?
Thanks.
ttp://ici.edu.au/courses/man
Ok, so this place is not a university or a tafe. Is it an RTO?
If so it should be listed on training.gov.au . I could not find it on training.gov.au but I have not searched exhaustively.
Perhaps ring them, confirm that they are an RTO, and ask for their Provider Number.
They will need to be a university, tafe or RTO to deliver AQF accredited qualifications.
In relation to their address, be aware that it is possibly a serviced office. http://www.serviced.com.au/serviced-offices
Just spoke to them, tbh sounded dodgy as each time I asked how I could verify that their course would be accredited toward Other courses at tafe or uni (as All legit places are) they kept saying they were ‘internationally accredited’ which seems to be trying to get away from the fact they aren’t legit in fact. I would hope they are more transparent but, that would hurt their income i would imagine. I don’t want to harm a business but I don’t want others only realising it’s not worth anything until AFTER THEY HAVE PAID.
adding more content to the page and entertaining the accusations that the organisation is not legit, is exactly what the poster wants. its not a genuine question and only written to discredit the company. please can you reconsider?
Their courses are non AQF (Australian Qualifications Framework) courses and have little if any recognition in a specialised field. This is not a registered RTO so you are not actuality gaining any registered or industry recognised qualification. You may as well watch a few youtube videos and print out your own certificate IMHO.
Reconsider what? Asking questions to see if you're a certificate mill?
accusations that the organisation is not legit, is exactly what the poster wants
Asking questions are accusations now? Stop playing the victim.
No, most employers in Australia require a qualification that is nationally recognised. This education provider is NOT nationally recognised in Australia and would very likely NOT result in any actual employment upon completion of the courses that are offered. Maybe if you are looking for some knowledge on a more personal level, but as I said, professionally it is extremely unlikely that you would actually succeed with employment based upon a certification from them.
Out of curiosity, I did also contact them to see what kind of information they are willing to provide and how they handle specific questions put to them in relation to the qualifications they offer, and I found them to be very contradicting, defensive, almost nervous, and extremely evasive.
Overall, they are only ensuring themselves legally by making sure that they do not straightforwardly tell you that you will have a qualification that is legally and industry regulated in Australia. However, within the qualification names and within the way they present their site, to an average person with very little knowledge they are most likely able to deceptively lead people into believing that they can genuinely gain employment within Australia with the qualification, when in fact, that is extremely unlikely to occur. I find this to be absolutely unconscionable and I personally would never find myself spending money to enrol there in the hopes that I could actually gain employment.
Example of deception that I discovered – The certificate in counselling and psychology, if a person who has little knowledge in relation to higher education were to read that title, they could possibly believe that they could use that certificate to either gain employment in the field of psychology, or respectively gain a pathway into further education. However, that certificate will NOT give you the opportunity to do either of those things and therefore should not be named that at all.
I think you will find that when someone is actively and knowingly being deceptive, they will become extremely defensive. That is exactly what you can see there with that reply. I think that reply alone answers the original question!
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Thanks.