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I am not sure which one i should go for... should i get the iPhone or the HTC diamond?

My bro is coming back from HK so i need to pick one ><

go the diamond, the iPhone has turned into a large disappointment for me and I'm sure many others

well my friend tells me just buy from here in aus cause they going to have some deal and the iPhone only cost $200 but properly have to sign some contract lol...

I would buy the diamond smaller and has better features. However, their was some issues with slow loading menus because the touch screen application was using all the resources and I have not read if that has been resolved

seriously...if the iphone 2.0 is only 199US.....u can't even get a normal GPS for that price.......

the only thing that will turn me off from the iphone will be the 3rd party software because currently i am using quite a few of them on my WM mobile

I really need to see how much it is going to cost before deciding

i had a play with the diamond the other day.

was a large user of WM6, and I must say diamond felt a little sluggish. plus it had an extremely annoying back-cover, cut up like a 'diamond', its crap though – and you'll know what I mean when you get it.

mind you, this isn't much worse than the current iPhone, that will 'rock' when you place it on the table :(

am an apple fan, and I will buy the iPhone.

if you want features, get the diamond.

reason for me wanting the iphone over a WM device. I am so sick of windows, would prefer not to use it – ever.

well i got $1000 so i can afford any heheheh =)

lazyjai writes...

i need to pick one

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia-2422.php

Should be a third option, neither. why not wait to see how the Xperia is compared to the 2 of them. Btw Diamond pro coming out soon...

XVIII.IV.MMIV writes...

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia-2422.php

That's not released yet.

laz writes...

seriously...if the iphone 2.0 is only 199US.....u can't even get a normal GPS for that price.......

the only thing that will turn me off from the iphone will be the 3rd party software because currently i am using quite a few of them on my WM mobile

I really need to see how much it is going to cost before deciding

I still wouldn't go for an iPhone at that price. The only advantage of seeing an iPhone at that price is that it may drag other phones' prices down with it!

If you can wait, wait a couple of months til the X1 or HTC Dream is released.

I would pick the Diamond however with reports of the slowness of the interface and touch flow with times of 2+ second response times when using it does not sound appealing. Hopefully if they address the speed of the interface I would consider purchasing one.

laz writes...

seriously...if the iphone 2.0 is only 199US.....u can't even get a normal GPS for that price.......

The iPhone does not cost US$199 on its own. That's just the upfront free, there still is a contract.

ab7tk writes...

The iPhone does not cost US$199 on its own. That's just the upfront free, there still is a contract.

It will be sold unlocked and on prepay. The price (If you believe Steve Jobs) will be USD199 worldwide. Of course you have to hook up with a telco for access either on prepaid or on some "deal"; up to you.

XVIII.IV.MMIV writes...

It will be sold unlocked and on prepay.

Yes but it will not be anywhere near $199. You're a fool if you think that's the case.

Diamond TouchFlo3D responsiveness has already been resolved – simply instigate the tweaks here – http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond

And for all aspects of advanced config – http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070

Don't buy the 3G iPhone. Wait 6-8 months and I am sure Nokia (Samsung have already caught up with the Omnia) will have a rival with more features and a decent camera. I feel sorry for the current iPhone owners... they must be spewing they spent $500 plus on eBay for the iPhone 1.0 and unlocked it and voided their warranty. Should have stayed with a REAL phone company guys – ie: Nokia!

paddysia writes...

Diamond pro coming out soon...

Tempting. I like the qwerty keyboard on my 838 pro – but i also want a thinner phone... not sure which will win out yet between that and the Diamond!

Winfield Charcoal writes...

You're a fool if you think that's the case.

You'd be a fool to believe Steve Jobs and what he says in public on the world stage.

It's $199 on a contract with AT&T.

looks like its HTC Touch Diamond~!

You'll let totally anonymous strangers make your decision for you? Wow!

XVIII.IV.MMIV writes...

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia-2422.php

Nice clear screen http://i.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/08/06/samsung-i900/phone/gsmarena_009.jpg </sarcasm>

Touch Diamond!!!!

Anybody know if its possible to use VOIP on the HTC Diamond? Like can I get a data pack with no calls and use VOIP over the 3g network to make presumably cheaper calls with pennytel.com?

HTC Touch Pro (Diamond with keypad and more!) or SE X1.
I'm waiting till those two come out before making next purchase.

lazyjai writes...

I am not sure which one i should go for... should i get the iPhone or the HTC diamond?

It really depends on what you want your mobile phone to do. If you are a featureholic or think iPhone is missing some key features then get HTC touch diamond.

I personally would go for the iPhone :d.

Go HTC Touch Diamond! Got a iPhone now and was thinking.. oh how could I replace this phone with another, but it seems like its back to windows mobile for me as well... well soon!

I wonder how many people out there are going to be grabbing a iPhone 3G when it does release... can see it now, people walking around with them like iPods.

Johnny Rambo writes...

Anybody know if its possible to use VOIP on the HTC Diamond? Like can I get a data pack with no calls and use VOIP over the 3g network to make presumably cheaper calls with pennytel.com?

Have a look at the 'Fring' application. While it doesn't list Windows Mobile 6.1 as officially supported, I'm guessing it won't take long to get added. I already use Fring to make VOIP calls over WiFi on my Nokia N80.

While it would be possible to use the application across a 3G network, the associated data costs wouldn't make it worthwhile.

Michael writes...

Have a look at the 'Fring' application. While it doesn't list Windows Mobile 6.1 as officially supported, I'm guessing it won't take long to get added.

I think I heard its uses servers in Europe so it has problems with lag and poor quality... i may be thinking of something else though.

The people suggesting a Windows Mobile device over an iPhone are clearly illicit drug users and you should ignore their opinions.

Only a fool would blow serious money on a HTC device.

Unlikely he will be able to even get the iPhone 3G so you'll be looking at the old, regular iPhone if he can get one.

In which case there is zero doubt you should go for the HTC Diamond. That thing is pure awesome. Absolutely stunning device! Sure, the iPhone may have a pretty slick menu, but so does the Diamond amongst a host of other features.

I would probably consider getting the Diamond on a plan in Australia that allows for lots of calls and data. You'll probably get it cheaper that way too.

ElCaito writes...

Don't buy the 3G iPhone. Wait 6-8 months and I am sure Nokia (Samsung have already caught up with the Omnia) will have a rival with more features and a decent camera.

It's already been a year since the original iPhone, and while the Diamond come close, none of the other manufacturers have been able to meet or beat the iPhone. Even the Diamond's interface isn't fluid enough (and the screen isn't as finger friendly as it is smaller).

The i900 feature wise is better than the iPhone but the UI is highly unlikely to be as slick as the iPhone's.

There are still some shortcomings with the iPhone 3G, such as the lack of MMS, no bluetooth file transfer, no video capture, and the 2MP camera with no flash or autofocus, but I'd still go for the iPhone 3G because it is just so sleek. You might regret it when everyone else starts getting their iPhones.

while the Diamond come close, none of the other manufacturers have been able to meet or beat the iPhone.

This should be rephrased! HTC Diamond is the leader! Fancy bringing out a 3G iphone without Video Calling, MMS, Cut/paste, and a proper GPS! As a MAC man I was so looking forward to the 3G iphone :(
I purchased the Diamond and its FANTASTIC!

I must admit, that it is incredibly frustrating when one is inthe market for a new phone in Australia!

For example – I was all set to go and become an Applie fanboi – but upon looking at what is lacking in the 3G iphone (eg Full BT utility, no video, etc..) I just cant find myself committing to this device.

Hooray for HTC – or so I thought!!! Now I find that despite its feature rich spec list and the great reviews on www.coolsmartphone.com I cannot use the current model on Next -g!!!!

It is preferable for me to stick with Telstra for now. So I have to wait for the "not released anywhere" US Touch Diamond model....

...........sigh......................

iConfused writes...

The people suggesting a Windows Mobile device over an iPhone are clearly illicit drug users and you should ignore their opinions.

Only a fool would blow serious money on a HTC device.

I have a HTC Tytn II and an iphone. The problem with HTC is they dont utilise the device's complete features . Like others above have posted sometimes I find my device to be sluggish. I did try custom cooked ROMs and they do make a difference, but you do void the warranty by doing that. So I would go for an iphone when they launch here.

The eco system around ihpone is coming up very well and soon you will see quite a vast array of apps and services for it.

Seriously, does anyone see the real point of getting an iPhone? It's not the features, since many other phones can match or better it. It is the applications that are developed for it that are going to be reason to get one.

Being a developer myself, I'll be getting one to develop my own apps for it.

If you want the Diamond, sure, but I can tell you now that the quality and range of applications for the iPhone will be easily on par with other platforms quickly. Mac developers take pride in creating polished, quality software. Comparing my experiences as both a Windows user and a Mac user, I tend to find that the third-party applications that are by small companies are very well done. I don't see this changing for the iPhone.

Phanmail writes...

This should be rephrased! HTC Diamond is the leader! Fancy bringing out a 3G iphone without Video Calling, MMS, Cut/paste, and a proper GPS! As a MAC man I was so looking forward to the 3G iphone :(
I purchased the Diamond and its FANTASTIC!

yeah... how does touchFLO compare to the iPhone interface in terms of finger friendliness, fluidity and general user friendliness?

I don't understand why apple would bring out an awesome phone but leave small yet important features out (BT transfer, MMS, video etc), it's so strange.

Thought I would revive this thread as I am going through a similar dilemma. Have been using an iPhone 2g since it was released and now that my contract has expired I have a choice between the iPhone or Diamond.

What do you like/dislike about your 2g iphone? Best way to tell you which one to go for.

Prof. Wiggley writes...

Hooray for HTC – or so I thought!!! Now I find that despite its feature rich spec list and the great reviews on www.coolsmartphone.com I cannot use the current model on Next -g!!!!

It is preferable for me to stick with Telstra for now. So I have to wait for the "not released anywhere" US Touch Diamond model....

...........sigh......................

I am pretty sure the most recent round of cooked ROMs for the Diamond has "unlocked" quad band support so that it will work on Next-G.

BGH writes...

I am pretty sure the most recent round of cooked ROMs for the Diamond has "unlocked" quad band support so that it will work on Next-G.

Not sure that's true – I think they unlock GSM bands. In any event, there will be a handset that works on the NextG band – and it is rumored to be this handset that will be released by Telstra in a few weeks (this is what they are calling the "America's" version because it will also work on AT&T's network in the US).

BGH writes...

I am pretty sure the most recent round of cooked ROMs for the Diamond has "unlocked" quad band support so that it will work on Next-G.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. It unlocked GSM but not 3G bands.

I have heard that the battery life on the diamond is pretty shocking, how would it compare to iPhone 3g?

I'm a big believer in having the freedom to use my phone (or any of my devices, for that matter) the way I want. I don't believe the iPhone allows me to do that.

To purchase the iPhone you must agree to Apple terms and conditions. Something I am not comfortable with because Apple control the licensing and distribution of all iPhone applications unless you jailbreak it – which is certainly not my definition of freedom. I asked about buying the iPhone outright and they wanted to "check my account for eligibility" and make me sign Apple's friggin' T&Cs. Why the hell for? I'm buying the phone outright! I shouldn't need to sign squat! The simple act of purchasing the phone should be enough for that.

I've been seriously regarding the HTC Diamond since it's release and I believe it to be the perfect iPhone alternative. Battery life is not an issue since I leave my phone on charge every evening and so the only issues I have with the Diamond is the lack of removable memory and the shape of the back panel – both very minor issues in comparison to the more glaring iPhone issues.

Go the HTC Diamond i have a HTC Touch Dual with a hacked Diamond OS, greatest device

Apple = Prison Sentence, you obey every law they lay down.

Its your choice of freedom or a slave

HTC Touch Di-a-mond !!!

BenMHarvey writes...

slave

slavery.

My phone is pretty bad on batteries also because of the 16 million colour display, I think you have to accept the fact that these phones chew up more power.

I swap my battery over with another one that I leave on the charger at home.

That way when you get home you just swap it over.

The HTC "Touch" Diamond has a removable battery, thats one of many reason I would choose the HTC Touch Diamond.

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/07/26/htc_touch_diamond_extended_battery_1

Looks like you can also "upgrade" to a bigger battery with the HTC Touch Diamond.

Diamond. iPhone is a nice piece of kit but misses the mark IMO.

In regards to sluggish interfaces, get a custom ROM put on it i have a HTC Touch Dual 850 stock is WM6 with Telstra crap

I have a custom WM6.1 Diamond Edition ROM and it runs easily 2.5 times faster than the stock OS

If you want freedom go HTC

Wait for the HTC Dream or HTC Diamond (Raphael)

BenMHarvey writes...

I have a custom WM6.1 Diamond Edition ROM and it runs easily 2.5 times faster than the stock OS

Please advise on where to get.. thanks :)

btw.. i love the diamond.. glad i went that way.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430

Best place to start

Be careful though it can be risky

But once you've done on rom and HardSPL your devic you'll be pretty fine

I use the Nike forum cause i havethe Neon200

I've just got the HTC Touch Diamond, and so far it seems like a slick little piece of equipment. The major reason I purchased it was to load Office programs, which most smartphones can do but the Diamond seemed to have positive reviews. Battery life sucks but considering it has a 528MHz CPU I don't think I can blame it! TouchFLO 3D interface is mostly great, except tends to hang up badly on the music tab.

Apparently there is a ROM that improves battery life and reduces sluggishness, does anyone know the version of this ROM? Mine is v1.93.707.1 WWE, dated in August.

Apart from these little quirks, it's proving a great little device!