Whirlpool

ADSL2+ services may now be ordered by new customers here:

www.aanet.com.au/adsl2_plans.html

Existing customers are able to place orders via the Members' Section:

https://www.aanet.com.au/members.html

Regards,
John Lane.

Congratulations John & well done

ADSL2+ services may now be ordered

Well done, great pricing too. Your choice of exchanges sucks though. :-)

I notice that the pricing is close to what someone had suggested in another thread (sorry, forget who it was) whereby you pay a base rate then $x per gb. The [unbundled] plans almost all work out to $29.90 base plus $1 per gb. The exceptions are the 2gb plan for $29.90 and the 75gb plan for $99.90.

I wonder if you could use a model where the above suggestion does apply and users could basically choose their own allowance, be it 7gb or 33gb? Too hard to manage?

is there a demand register?

Mount Gravatt, Queensland is listed here : /forum-replies.cfm?t=968342#r2
but on on aaNet's: www.aanet.com.au/sales.html page ADSL1 is the only service available when I enter my number. (just around the corner from the exchange) :-)
Any ideas when it will be activated ?

Congrats to everyone that can get it!!!

TeeEm writes...

Mount Gravatt, Queensland is listed here : /forum-replies.cfm?t=968342#r2
but on on aaNet's: www.aanet.com.au/sales.html page ADSL1 is the only service available when I enter my number. (just around the corner from the exchange) :-)
Any ideas when it will be activated ?

Same here Southport,Qld.
Only ADSL1

Good to see,great plans,shame i cant get it!

Looks like my answer is here : /forum-replies.cfm?t=979855&p=­ 3#r45

Quote: " There is not yet a way for existing customers on Telstra hardware to order a migration to ADSL2+. " :-(

homersmithson writes...

Good to see,great plans,shame i cant get it!

Yep all the ISP's installing their own equipment seem to target the same exchanges. Good if you live in one of those areas I guess.

Nice one.

Now migrate the Pennant Hills exchange!

Trial Master writes...

Yep all the ISP's installing their own equipment seem to target the same exchanges. Good if you live in one of those areas I guess.

Yeah I really don't understand why?

Why would you invest in an exchange that already has providers for ADSL2+ and therefore have lots of competition.

Why not invest in exchanges with no equipment, that way you have a captive audience, all eagerly awaiting to move to ADSL2+.

I wish any company other than Telstra would come to our exchange, currently no-one does ADSL2+.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my exchange isnt enabled. I would save $7 on the 20gig plan.:(

No.78379 writes...

Why would you invest in an exchange that already has providers for ADSL2+ and therefore have lots of competition.

Because there are good reasons why no-one services some exchanges, including the exorbitant (read monopoly) pricing of Telstra backhaul.

Isn't there any special deal for the existing customers to upgrade to ADSL2+? I see that it will cost us $109 for the plan change.

deepsea writes...

Isn't there any special deal for the existing customers to upgrade to ADSL2+? I see that it will cost us $109 for the plan change.

It should be $59 for existing customers.

What charges does it list in the members area?

Jason

For me it shows the followings:

# This change of plan will require a Port Configuration. The cost of which is $89.00.
# The cost for a plan change is $20.00.
# Total cost for this change is $109.00.
# The change and charges will be applied on your next billing date, which is 2008-06-05

I don't know whether the fact that I change from 512-M2 to DSL2-M2 plan make any different to the charge or not?

Thanks

deepsea writes...

For me it shows the followings:

Thanks - I'll have that fixed tomorrow!

Jason

That would be great. I will order it tomorrow night then.

Thanks

deepsea writes...

I don't know whether the fact that I change from 512-M2 to DSL2-M2 plan make any different to the charge or not?

The cost is supposed to be $59 no matter what plan you are moving from, and no matter what ADSL2 plan you are moving to.

www.aanet.com.au/pricing.html

# Migrate from ADSL1 to ADSL2+: $59

* Used: This fee is charged if you change from any ADSL1 plan to any ADSL2 plan. No other speed or plan change fees would apply.

Jason

Evening
I can see from the new ADSL2 plans you can have 2GB
why can't ADSL1 get them especially when your exchange is not enabled.
DSL2-M1" 2Gb $29.90 Per Month
Nigel

I need HELP writes...

I can see from the new ADSL2 plans you can have 2GB
why can't ADSL1 get them especially when your exchange is not enabled.
DSL2-M1" 2Gb $29.90 Per Month

Because the costs of providing that service using our own network is far lower than using the Telstra Network.

The port cost is lower - and faster.

The cost to deliver a GB to a customer is lower, as we don't have to pay Telstra's AGVC 'tax' adding a large part to the cost of data.

We are able to offer a 2G plan, and still turn over a reasonable profit using our own network - it is simply not possible with Telstra at the moment.

Jason

Jason
What is the update for NSW Western Sydney ADSL2 plse.
Nigel

Hey,

I'm connected to the South Oakleigh exchange in VIC which is listed as active for launch according to the list in the other topic.

When I punched my number here though www.aanet.com.au/sales.html it tells me that only ADSL services are available in my area but it actually linked to this.

• Standard ADSL1 services are available in your area - Click to view plans.
www.aanet.com.au/adsl2_p...b%3E%3Ca%20href=

Clicking on that link takes me to this.

aaNet System Maintenance

The following error was encountered while attempting to parse the requested resource:
« Redirection attempt failed - please ensure the document you're trying to redirect to exists. Redirection URL: 6.html »

Please try again later or follow the 'Contact Us' link in the website menu to report your issue to the aaNet Helpdesk.
www.aanet.com.au/sales.html

I'm assuming theres a problem somewhere with the exchange lookup?

Is South Oakleigh in VIC active?

Cheers

Jason Μ writes...

We are able to offer a 2G plan, and still turn over a reasonable profit using our own network - it is simply not possible with Telstra at the moment.

With Telstra promoting their High Speed plans via Bigpond and Business Broadband you'd really think they'd stop milking ISP's with their ADSL port charges when they won't allow wholesale of ADSL2+ ports?

I wish I hadn't moved from Coorparoo two years ago from a broadband point of view, but it's lovely up here in Sandgate. Maybe one day we can join all you ADSL2+ lucky ba$tards.

Yianni,

On another thread, they said to log on to your account and click onto "change plan" - it should show which company's hardware your line's connected to at the exchange.

If you're on Eftel equipment then you should be able to change straight away. If not, then you'll have to wait for them to migrate you over (assuming the stuff's been installed and working).

Trial Master writes...

Yep all the ISP's installing their own equipment seem to target the same exchanges.

An interesting observation made by many I presume.
In another year or so, a couple of hundred exchanges will be chock full of equipment from a dozen companies all fighting to make a quid from the few thousand customers available in each exchange whilst another exchange only a few km away will be deemed unviable and only have telstra.

I wonder if any would be brave enough to take the plunge on being the only 3rd party supplier in a marginal exchange?
When there are 2 or 3 other companies in any 1 exchange wouldn't that exchange become potentially unviable?

Yes I too am on the South Oakleigh exchange and confused due to no option for upgrading despite it being listed as one of the first ready to go. Jason can you pleas enlighten us?

flamingpitofhell writes...

Yianni,

On another thread, they said to log on to your account and click onto "change plan" - it should show which company's hardware your line's connected to at the exchange.

erm, I'm not a aanet customer though. I was just checking out my phone number to see if my exchange was active and got all those errors.

If I do move to aanet adsl2+ it will be via SST.

Thanks for the reply though.

Hopefully they will sort out the exchange lookup page soon.

Cheers

KevL writes...

chock full of equipment from a dozen companies

There are too many ISPs in Australia atm - a few rounds of consolidation won't hurt, and might actually increase competition.

I wonder if any would be brave enough to take the plunge on being the only 3rd party supplier in a marginal exchange?

It's difficult for a company with small capitalisation to take risks like that (the vast majority of Aussie ISPs would fit in this category). Also, many of these exchanges are actually capped by Telstra, which adds a large amount to the cost and difficulty of installation (you'd need to build your own cabinet/building outside the exchange).

Hi john,
I am a current subscriber of aanet.. On broadband choice and bigpond websites, it is stated that the "Pakenhan Vic" exchange is ADSL2 Capable.. after going to the aanet members section and signing in to my acct, your website does not allow me to Upgrade to ADSL2.. After doing a phone number check on your website (aanet) , the answer was my exchange is only ADSL1 enabled... What is correct ,AAnet, or the other sites?? I'm confused... please advise...

Yianni writes...

erm, I'm not a aanet customer though. I was just checking out my phone number to see if my exchange was active and got all those errors.

Oops, sorry.

oz123 writes...

What is correct ,AAnet, or the other sites??

Both. For you to get ADSL2 from aaNet, the exchange needs to have Eftel/aaNet's equipment installed in it. Just because your exchange is "compatible" on some lists doesn't mean it has aaNet equipment in it - it just means that *someone* has installed their own adsl2 equipment in there, but not necessarily aaNet

Pakenham only has Telstra equipment atm:

www.adsl2exchanges.com.a...hp?Exchange=PKAM

Edit: Geoff got there before me

thanks for the prompt response...

It appears that only the city exchanges are ADSL2+ enabled. As I have only AAnet ADSL1 available, when would be the likely date for ADSL2+? Or will I ever get it at the Middleridge Exchange (country)in QLD.

I would have thought excess charges would be phased out? Is there any option for shaping?

aero-leach writes...

I would have thought excess charges would be phased out?

Why?

Is there any option for shaping?

Not at this point in time. Broadband that slows to dialup is considered by many to be pretty pointless, especially when running services like VoIP. There are many DSL providers that do shape though, and aaNet may even consider it in the future if they received enough demand.

Andy. writes...

aaNet may even consider it in the future if they received enough demand.

The Excess charges are very reasonable, no shaping thanks!!!

Trial Master writes...

The Excess charges are very reasonable, no shaping thanks!!!

I agree with Trial Master.

I reakon it's better to have the speed and pay more than have shaping. If you don't want to pay more, don't go over your limit :-)

Trial Master writes...

The Excess charges are very reasonable, no shaping thanks!!!

I agree.

When I opted for a plan change last night up to ADSL2, it still had that the change of plan fee would be $89 and not the $59. Is this an error on the aaNet website? Will check my next bill I guess...

Muds writes...

had that the change of plan fee would be $89 and not the $59. Is this an error on the aaNet website?

I think so, it is $59 to move from ADSL1 to ADSL2.

I note that all the exchanges around me are enabled for ADSL2+ (Aspley, Chermside, Ferny Hills, Mtchy) but no Everton. Any plans soon for Everton? I know two or three existing aanet subscribers (self included) that will immediately switch across when it is available on this exchange.

The issue with the price for ADSL1 to ADSL2 has been resolved.
I have now signed up.

Thanks

I'm assuming that you can also move away from aanet adsl2+ via SST to another provider which supports SST? Is this correct?

Thanks.

Is there any chance the aaNet website could get up a page of its roll-out schedule?

I'm on the Reservoir exchange (Victoria) and not enabled yet.

DexX writes...

Is there any chance the aaNet website could get up a page of its roll-out schedule?

A better solution to this is on its way. Probably mid-next week.

In reply to those who are asking about why the same exchanges tend to be enabled by many ISPs, the answer is that these have competitive backhaul capacity available. Those exchanges which don't have competitive backhaul options (i.e. non-Telstra) tend to be unviable.

However, we have been investigating various options recently and we may have some solutions. More later...

Yianni writes...

I'm assuming that you can also move away from aanet adsl2+ via SST to another provider which supports SST?

Yep.

foxidrive writes...

Yep.

Thanks.

I still have no luck with checking ADSL2+ availability here www.aanet.com.au/sales.html

It still tells me I can only sign up to ADSL but the link has ADSL2+ in it which then spits out an error message if I click it. Details were posted in a previous post in this topic.

My exchange was listed to be acitve at launch but I haven't heard anything since.

The exchange is South Oakleigh in VIC.

Cheers

John / Jason / or anyone else who can help.

I too like everyone else have been waiting patiently for aaNet to provide ADSL2+. When the initial exchange listing was released (see /forum-replies.cfm?t=968342) I was so happy to see South Oakleigh exchange listed.

Now when I go to upgrade my plan, I have no option for ADSL2+. Also, when I enter my phone number, it says only ADSL1 is available. What a tease for it to be listed but then not actually available.

Therefore could someone please answer my very simple question(s):

Is the South Oakleigh exchange enabled for ADSL2+ from aaNet?

And if so, what can I not see the option to upgrade to it..?

I'm a long time aaNet/Eftel customer. In fact my very first broadband ISP was Datafast (who was bought out by Eftel). At around the same time I churned to aaNet (who, as we all know, was also bought out by Eftel). So I guess you say I've been with aaNet/Eftel for a long long long time.

This is the second time I've posted asking this question, so surely my loyalty and patience means that someone from aaNet can answer my question about the South Oakleigh exchange... :)

Thanks.

foxidrive writes...

Yep.

Foxidrive said "Yep" to I'm assuming that you can also move away from aanet adsl2+ via SST to another provider which supports SST?

... my question is...

Can you move away from aanet (which support SST) ADSL1 via SST to ADSL2+ with another provider which supports SST? i.e. can you SST from ADSL1 to ADSL2+ assuming both parties support SST? or must it be from ADSL2+ to ADSL2+? Most of the info on SST don't make this 100% clear i.e.

bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/?...ist&type=sst

and

whirlpool.net.au/news/?id=1702

...actually after some searching... my current ISP has a page which seems to indicate that it is possible to use SST to go from ADSL1 to ADSL2+

www.aanet.com.au/about_sst

(of course my current ISP doesn't support ADSL2+ on Telstra infrastructure and has discontinued 2 plans I've had while I've been with them... so it's time to put SST to the test and get while the getting is good!).

My final question I guess is, how long does a Single Service Transfer take? i.e. can I sign up with a new ISP and get going in a day? Or is their the usual week or two of waiting around until the transfer finally occurs (but without much disconnect time).

John Lane writes...

However, we have been investigating various options recently and we may have some solutions. More later...

I look forward to hearing more. It's very frustrating being trapped under the Telstra Wholesale umbrella.

Yianni writes...

It still tells me I can only sign up to ADSL but the link has ADSL2+ in it which then spits out an error message if I click it. Details were posted in a previous post in this topic.

I too suffer the same problem for the Lutwyche exchange, listed as active at launch but not showing as available on the number test page. Taking a peak at the source beneath the page suggests a missing closing quote in the ADSL2+ plan link: www.aanet.com.au/adsl2_plans.html (Line 125 of the output for those that need to know to get this fixed).

I had no problems, however, once signed in, in upgrading to one of the new ADSL2+ plans.

Robert Shattock writes...

My final question I guess is, how long does a Single Service Transfer take?

Read the guff on the ISP you wish to churn to. EG: I believe on the TPG web site they ask for your preferred target date within a 5 to 16 day timeframe.

the Big-Banana-DSL2 50G+150G** looks very good value for me. 50GB Peak is awesome plus the 150gb offpeak for queuing downloads.

Great work. But my contract with TPG doesn't run out until October 08, so considering this is a limited time offer, I guess I wont be able to take benefit of this great plan.

Mikey- writes...

the Big-Banana-DSL2 50G+150G** looks very good value for me. 50GB Peak is awesome plus the 150gb offpeak for queuing downloads.

Indeed it does. I'm tossing up between TPG and aaNet now since this plan was released today.

2 things that are making me scratch my head though. The high cost of the SST churn from aaNet [$99] and if uploads exceed downloads they are counted instead of downloads.

I do a fair bit of uploading and this is the main reason of wanting ADSL2+ :(

Is there any chance of making the SST fee competitive?

aaNet $99
iiNet $39
TPG $59 12months, $0 18months
Internode $88

Cheers and congrats on the release.

Yianni writes...

Is there any chance of making the SST fee competitive?

aaNet $99
iiNet $39
TPG $59 12months, $0 18months
Internode $88

Well apart TPG none of them offer anywhere near the data of aaNet for the price, and TPG has a minimum 12 month contract (aaNet is 6 months). You do the sums.

John Lane writes...

ADSL2+ services may now be ordered by new customers here:

Ooooh... I notice there is a $70 200GB plan (50GB peak 150GB off peak)

I take it this is competing with TPG?

Like a few other posts I'm one of those with an "ACTIVE EXCHANGE" (SHERWOOD) for ADSL2 but I can't change to ADSL2 in the members section and the phone search shows only Standard ADSL1. Can someone please confirm whether it's a coding issue or I really can't get ADSL2 issue?

I'm currently deciding between the Optus ADSL2 Bundle and aaNet ADSL2 so if I can get an answer that would be beneficial to aaNet ;)

Grassy Knoll writes...

I'm one of those with an "ACTIVE EXCHANGE" (SHERWOOD) for ADSL2 but I can't change to ADSL2

We released ADSL2+ earlier than we planned, and therefore not all those exchanges on the list are yet active.

Ill publish the current list on the website today.

Jason

Jason Μ writes...

We released ADSL2+ earlier than we planned, and therefore not all those exchanges on the list are yet active.

Ill publish the current list on the website today.

Thanks Jason.
Any ETA on it?

Jason Μ writes...

We released ADSL2+ earlier than we planned,

You have just put aanet on the list of infamous historical revisionists.

ETA for the Bathurst St exchange in Hobart please?????

Hi Jason,

Can you please tell me as a prospective susbscriber, does aaNet ADSL2+ have the ability to change line profiles. e.g. I am currently with iiNet and we have the choice of 5 different profiles: Safe (forced ADSL1), Controlled, Standard, Thrillseeker (all ADSL2+ with different S/N ratios allowed) and Gamer (ADSL2+ with interleaving disabled, lower sync speed but better pings). Does aaNet offer anything like this?

aero-leach writes...

I would have thought excess charges would be phased out?

No way. Who want's shaping? I know I don't. You pay good money for speed, so who want's to go back to dial up speed?

Anyway the excess charged by aaNet is one of the lowest around. Remember there are still ISPs who are charging $150 per gig.

Well my exchange doesn't get a mention but I'm still happy with my current set up thanks very much. Actually I'm rather amused with this mob hysteria that is going on at the moment. It is after all just an internet connection.

Findecáno Silimaurë writes...

choice of 5 different profiles

i doubt it.

Are Aanet planning to offer naked variants of these plans?

I'd love to go to ADSL2+, but 'change plans' only gives me standard ADSL options. I'm on the Oakleigh (Vic) exchange. I saw Jason M's post saying he was going to provide an updated roll-out list: Jason, where's the list?! :) I feel the need; the need for speed!

Localgod writes...

Are Aanet planning to offer naked variants of these plans?
Eventually, but not yet – is what I saw posted in response to this question in another thread

weird that aaNet (or eftel) as a perth based isp offers ADSL2+ in only 2 exchanges in WA, i would expect aaNet to cover more metro areas in WA

shinkee writes...

weird that aaNet (or eftel) as a perth based isp offers ADSL2+ in only 2 exchanges in WA,

The original aaNet was based in QLD and had mainly east coast customers. Between that, and since they're also wholesaling (apparently) I guess that's where the majority of the potential customers are

John Lane writes...

However, we have been investigating various options recently and we may have some solutions. More later...

Is this one of the solutions you mentioned?

http://www.commsday.com/node/237

Trial Master writes...

Is this one of the solutions you mentioned?

Yeah, they make good money off wholesale so as usual, who can work them out. They have been like kids with toys. "You can't play with my toys because, because, they’re mine!" Never any logic with them.

Hopefully the prices are competitive with the real world. (Unlike their own ADSL2 pricing)

The articles I’ve read suggested that Telstra never said it wouldn’t wholesale ADSL2+ they just weren’t prepared to do it until they wouldn’t be forced to sell at regulated prices. I would be happy to get ADSL2+ as no one is going to build in my exchange so many choices is better than just Bigpond.

I have a similar problem to others. My exchange 'Canterbury' is listed as active, it is also listed as available on the aaNet check page;

" Next Generation ADSL2+ services are available in your area – Click to view plans."

So I click plans and the option to change is simply not there, I only see a list of ADSL1 plans.

What is going on here? I want to upgrade wile its available and I simply cannot!!!

Pennant Hills is migrated! My ADSL2 order is in :)

Now what do I do with the time I spent checking the plan change page every day...?

Jason Μ writes...

There is not yet a way for existing customers on Telstra hardware to order a migration to ADSL2+.

Jason
/forum-replies.cfm?t=979855&p=3#r45

Has this changed in status yet for the Mt Gravatt exchange ?

I really don't see the point of the 'Check Your Number' facility on the aaNet web site for current aaNet users.

When I use this facility it tells me:
• Next Generation ADSL2+ services are available in your area – Click to view plans.
• Standard ADSL1 services are available in your area – Click to view plans.
When I go into the members area and try to change my adsl1 plan to adsl2 I cannot – only adsl1 plans are shown.

It is my understanding that the only way for me to change to adsl2 is to try to change my plan in the members section every few days or so until at last the adsl2 plans appear as one of my choices.

Success using the aaNet 'Check Your Number' facility is a *necessary* but not *sufficent* condition for changing to adsl2.

PeterG writes...

It is my understanding that the only way for me to change to adsl2 is to try to change my plan in the members section every few days or so until at last the adsl2 plans appear as one of my choices.

Or you could just look at the change plans plans where it tells you whether you are on Telstra or aaNet/EFTel hardware. You can't select an ADSL2+ plan until your exchange has been migrated across from Telstra.

Success using the aaNet 'Check Your Number' facility is a *necessary* but not *sufficent* condition for changing to adsl2.

That is correct.

I really don't see the point of the 'Check Your Number' facility on the aaNet web site for current aaNet users.

There is no point beyond showing them whether their exchange has been enabled. Ideally the member's area should show when your particular exchange is due to be migrated, though I can't see that happening for a number of reasons.

Andy. writes...

Or you could just look at the change plans plans where it tells you whether you are on Telstra or aaNet/EFTel hardware.

Andy, I am currently on Telstra Wholesale.
As I said, I need to just keep on trying to change to adsl2 every few days or so, because this is only way I can see if I am able to change – well you know what I mean :)

Trial Master writes...

The articles I’ve read suggested that Telstra never said it wouldn’t wholesale ADSL2+ they just weren’t prepared to do it until they wouldn’t be forced to sell at regulated prices. I would be happy to get ADSL2+ as no one is going to build in my exchange so many choices is better than just Bigpond.

There is a competitor in Sandgate, QLD exchange now http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au hopefully aaNet can wholesale through them cheaper than Telstra Wholesale. At last a choice!!!

John Lane writes...

Those exchanges which don't have competitive backhaul options (i.e. non-Telstra) tend to be unviable.

However, we have been investigating various options recently and we may have some solutions. More later...

John

My exchange has recently been enabled with TPG DSLAM. Will aaNet be providing their ADSL2+ product across this network?

Trial Master writes...

My exchange has recently been enabled with TPG DSLAM. Will aaNet be providing their ADSL2+ product across this network?

He mentioned alternative backhaul suppliers being available, not alternative DSLAM providers.

Andy. writes...

He mentioned alternative backhaul suppliers being available, not alternative DSLAM providers.

TPG use their own backhaul from what I've read.

Trial Master writes...

TPG use their own backhaul from what I've read.

Do they wholesale access to it at competitive prices?

Andy. writes...

Do they wholesale access to it at competitive prices?

Don't know?

https://www.aanet.com.au/members.html

Regards,
John Lane.

Ummmm ... NO.?? – Existing customers like ME, CAN'T change to the *New* ADSL2+ Plans.??

I went to my *Members Area*, & I am presented with OLD Plans.?? – I'm on the OPTUS Wholesale, Service Infrastructure.!!
As 1 of the 1st customers to take on the 1st Adsl2+ Plans, we are punished by getting stuck on these plans, which is *Not Fair*.!!

• As an Existing LOYAL Customer (since Feb-2005) ... We *don't* get priority.?? – No.!! – *New* Customers come 1st, hey.??

HOW do us *Existing Customers* get INFO, on WHEN Existing Customers are getting *Merged* over to the NEW System.?? – Any Idea's.?? – John.??

aa Lethal 1 (RBC) writes...

aa Lethal 1 (RBC)...

*!.!!.?.!?*

Dude go easy on the *!.!!.?.!?*'s

Geezuz. As if anyone from aanet will respond to that crap.

aa Lethal 1 (RBC) writes...

Ummmm ... NO.?? – Existing customers like ME, CAN'T change to the....

I'm in the same position here. My exchange is being installed now but I am on the aaOptus ADSL2+

Jason's last answer on this was that they did not yet have a plan to migrate us over to the new equipment. I'm guessing this will change as it must be more cost effective for aaNet in the longer term to have us on their MSAN.
The new plans are better value, plus you don't have to bundle.

Once I see the work is complete at my exchange I plan to give them a call. I'll post how it turns out.

And yeah, go easy on the whirlcode brother, I threw a fit while reading that one!

LoM writes...

aa Lethal 1 (RBC) writes...
aa Lethal 1 (RBC)...
*!.!!.?.!?*

Dude go easy on the *!.!!.?.!?*'s
Geezuz. As if anyone from aanet will respond to that crap.

Well ... That was a very constructive reply ... Duely noted ... N E X T ...

Concs writes...

Jason's last answer on this was that they did not yet have a plan to migrate us over to the new equipment. I'm guessing this will change as it must be more cost effective for aaNet in the longer term to have us on their MSAN.

Hmmm ... Did not yet have a plan to migrate us.? – Does he wanna keep us, or not.?

I'm seriously on the verge of changing Isp's for the lack of support of EXISTING customers, & the confirmation of some schedule or timeframe we can expect for this " Merge " to be done.? – For eg; "Everyone will be migrated by Dec-08" ... Then I know what to expect, & can allow for this.!

- How long do existing customers have to hang around B4 we get this option ... Jason.? ... H e l l o

Hi Jason and John,
I was just after an update with regards to exchange rollouts and migrations.
The original build plan target was 15 exchanges a month, could you post if this target is being achieved as I've seen little in the way of updates after following the posted lists for some time now.
Many here are showing a little frustration and I'm sure if more information was forthcoming most would patiently await exchanges to be enabled or customers to be migrated.
Even IF aanet and eftel were having problems with the rollout the customers would understand better if they were being kept informed. Personally I don't have a problem waiting and the request for more info is more curiosity than anything else
Cheers gnome

Concs writes...

My exchange is being installed now but I am on the aaOptus ADSL2+

The problem is that you are currently on Optus ULL – your telephone line is physically on the Optus Network.

There is no simple way to change someone from another carrier's ULL network to our own ADSL2+ network – using LSS.

The only real way I know of would be to transfer your home telephone to Telstra, have your ADSL2 service disconnected, and then order an aaNet ADSL2+ service.

I suspect that if we do our own ULL based service that the transfer process should be a lot easier, and with much less downtime, but at this stage there is no effective transfer process.

If you are on Optus hardware the only ADSL2+ plans available to you are the ones in your members area. The wholesale cost for Optus based services is more than using our own network, as well as the fact we have to pay per mbit for backhaul on the Optus network.

Jason

gnome writes...

The original build plan target was 15 exchanges a month, could you post if this target is being achieved as I've seen little in the way of updates after following the posted lists for some time now.

There is a list here of active exchanges.
http://aanet.com.au/bbnext_alpha

Migrations were submitted to Telstra for existing customers on the following exchanges mid last week, so I expect the ability to order plan changes will update within the next week.

APLY (ASPLEY QLD)
BURD (BURWOOD NSW)
CAUL (CAULFIELD VIC)
CHPL (CHAPEL-HILL QLD)
HGTT (HIGHETT VIC)
NDAH (NUNDAH QLD)
NSYD (NORTH-SYDNEY NSW)
SOAK (SOUTH-OAKLEIGH VIC)
SOPT (SOUTHPORT QLD)
SRWD (SHERWOOD QLD)

Jason

How about Newtown in Toowoomba Qld Jason, any idea if it will ever be made active.
Cheers
Thomo

thomo66 writes...

How about Newtown in Toowoomba Qld Jason,

Got no idea how they work it out, but unless you're all in a high uptake area I'd expect an exchange with only 18000 numbers in it's range would be low on the priority list... :(

So, as I see it, for the moment my only option for adsl2+ is still only Telstra. :(
Oh well, I will wait for my churn to aanet and then I'll continue to chug along at 1500 speed until the day when my area joins the real world. ;)

[edit] see link for exchange info
http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au/viewexchange.php?Exchange=NEWO

I found the highlighted OPEL information at the bottom very interesting.

Jason Μ writes...

Migrations were submitted to Telstra for existing customers on the following exchanges mid last week, so I expect the ability to order plan changes will update within the next week

Hi Jason,

The list of exchanges identifies "current active", "under-construction" exchanges and the like. When it say's under-constuction, usually what period of time would that mean? weeks/months?

Because I'm on the CPHL (Camp Hill) exchange in Bris, and it say's "under constuction". Do they provide you with ETA's on the completion dates?

Thanks.

thomo66 writes...

I found the highlighted OPEL information at the bottom very interesting.

Which means you will probably never get anther provider other than telstra now on that exchange.

ausfatcat writes...

Which means you will probably never get anther provider other than telstra now on that exchange.

For ADSL2+, that's about it. :(

I noticed my exchange (Glen Iris) has been scheduled for ADSL2 by BroadbandNext which includes aaNet. Can anyone tell me when it is scheduled for? I was unable to find any dates on either aaNet or EFTel websites

Matt writes...

Can anyone tell me when it is scheduled for? I was unable to find any dates on either aaNet or EFTel websites

I don't think that information is publically available yet. Still, maybe someone from Aanet could answer your question.

Matt writes...

I noticed my exchange (Glen Iris) has been scheduled for ADSL2 by BroadbandNext which includes aaNet.

I have checked the aaNet web site and it thinks my exchange has ADSL+2, however if I go to change plans there is no option for ADSL+2.

Matt writes...

I have checked the aaNet web site and it thinks my exchange has ADSL+2, however if I go to change plans there is no option for ADSL+2.

This page on the aaNet forums details the process (roughly).

http://forums.aanet.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14658

Jason

Jason Μ writes...

This page on the aaNet forums details the process (roughly).

http://forums.aanet.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14658

Jason

OK, read through the posts and I now understand that the aaNet web site will indicate that the exchange is available even know it is only planned. I agree with the people in those posts that aaNet should only show the exchanges as available when you can ACTUALLY purchase them. It is rather misleading. So which site can we use to check if an exchange is active:

http://www.aanet.com.au/bbnext_alpha.html
http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/
http://www.aanet.com.au/sales.html

Matt writes...

So which site can we use to check if an exchange is active:

http://www.aanet.com.au/bbnext_alpha.html

That one lists exchanges that are active and taking orders for new customers.

For existing customers the only way to check is via the plan change section of your members area.

Jason

BTW Jason after talking a couple of months ago about Ballarat exchange and possible backhaul problems, you should maybe consider the Vic governments own backhaul fibre that is apparently not being used much (article last week in the Ballarat newspaper). Which goes to Ballarat.

It's called VERN (Victorian Education Research Network) and is mainly for researches and scientists ect but with the dramtic under use reported in the paper theres maybe a opportunity for the commercial ventures to use the fibre? Unlikely but.....

Here's there website http://www.vernet.net.au/public/

The aanet number checker states "Next Generation ADSL2+ services are available in your area – Click to view plans."

However, every other source points to the ORMD exchange still being "Planned".

So what's the deal, broken number checker?

Lukian the Wizard writes...

The aanet number checker states "Next Generation ADSL2+ services are available in your area "- Click to view plans.

There you go. They didn't say whose ADSL services!

And a nice picture of a young JasonM in his cape.