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User #29526 2731 posts
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Continues from: /forum-replies.cfm?t=739057&p=-1#bottom
Early access begins soon so start saving your quota and earning brownie points with your significant other ready for release.
As the time grows nearer everyone is interested in server choices to make sure the Aussies all end up together. So please cast your votes and let us know, when the game goes live what type of server do you wish to join?
Enjoy, Zepth
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posted 2008-May-10, 5pm AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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PvE for me, prefer my questing gank free.
If they could put a decent system in to avoid ganking I would give PvP a go, but no developer can.
Going to be playing a Bear Shammy, loving my one in beta about to hit level 40..
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posted 2008-May-10, 5pm AEST
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User #173516 461 posts
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PVP for me :D any news on when the client DL will be up?
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posted 2008-May-10, 5pm AEST
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User #88528 23 posts
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Is anyone else concerned about the number of "exclusive items" being handed out?
I don't have a problem with items that are just for show such as a free pet or something like that, which other MMOs have given with their collector's edition but things like +XP rate rings and teleporters seem a bit much.
I just hate the idea of haivng micro transactions in games to get an advantage over others and with all these little extras you can pay to get it's starting to head that way.
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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? Luda ? writes... any news on when the client DL will be up?
Sometime in the next 12 hours I would say, as the times seem to all be based off either US or EU zones.
Which I dont mind as us poor EB purchases wont be too far behind in chewing up all our bandwidth :)
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #102362 1749 posts
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Owen. writes... PvE for me, prefer my questing gank free.
What does gank mean?
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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Pancake. writes... What does gank mean?
Think of some kid that loves himself and is a high level going into newbie zones and just killing people left right and centre just because they can, stopping you from getting anything done.
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #102362 1749 posts
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Owen. writes... Think of some kid that loves himself and is a high level going into newbie zones and just killing people left right and centre just because they can, stopping you from getting anything done.
Gotcha. Good explanation.
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #169833 442 posts
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I just finished reading the complete Conan the Barbarian collection. :3
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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Please be aware that all of the major Australian guilds are having a discussion this Sunday to decide where they will all reside. We are aiming to all get onto the same server.
We'll be posting the results in our respective guilds, so go and join one.
www.randommayhem.net - if you can't post, just PM me your randommayhem forum username and I'll add you to the group ;)
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #125761 321 posts
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PvP for me and all of my friends.
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #103811 3072 posts
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BrinK writes... PvP for me and all of my friends.
Same here.... Cant wait...
EDIT: So i better call Centrelink n tell em ill be on the dole soon... bloody AoC coming out... they'll be like "yeh, we know, we have already received a few phone calls about it" :P
EDIT: On the form where it says "looking for work", u can put down professional head smasher, its the Conqueror section, they'll let it slide if your under lvl 20...this time :P
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posted 2008-May-10, 6pm AEST
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User #10139 5373 posts
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PvE server for me Casual player, not huge into pvp :)
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posted 2008-May-10, 7pm AEST
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User #29526 2731 posts
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I am having a hard time deciding about type of server.
The thing I like about PvE servers is that you tend to be able to PvP when you feel like it and dont have to worry so much about the lvl80's who get enjoyment out of heading to noob towns like Tortage just to repeatedly kill low lvls. I also find that the less mature players(not necessarily younger) tend to flock to the PvP servers and sometimes it can feel a bit "w00t I 0wNZ joo!!11!!oneone!bbq"
On the other hand it seems like it will be easier to find a decent aussie guild on a PvP server as most of what I have read suggests thats where people are headed.
I actually liked the RP servers better when I played wow, not because there was ever any roleplaying on them, since there wasn't really. But more because it seemed to attract the more mature players and in general provided a better playing experience as a result.
Decisions, decisions.
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posted 2008-May-10, 8pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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If you're apart of a big guild, ganking isn't an issue. I recall one instance in WoW when one of our Random Mayhem members was being ganked in Felwood. Not once or twice, that's about of the game so you have to learn to deal with it, but constantly for about four or five times.
Three of us went down to help and with one being a Warlock, we summoned the entire guild down. In about 15 minutes, we had 30+ level 60's in the zone, annihilating anything in it's path.
We locked off the entire zone to the Horde for about 6 hours. The moral of the story; be in a guild with people who are willing to help. It teaches the opposition a really harsh lesson about ganking unfairly and repeatedly.
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posted 2008-May-10, 8pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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Zepthiir writes... I also find that the less mature players(not necessarily younger) tend to flock to the PvP servers and sometimes it can feel a bit "w00t I 0wNZ joo!!11!!oneone!bbq"
This'll happen wherever you go, unfortunately. After a while, you turn into me; an /ignore list that's too full and never being on the General channel.
But if you have a good guild who you can chill with, you just hang around in Ventrillo and on the guild chat and get your social fix that way!
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posted 2008-May-10, 8pm AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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Does anyone know how the final game will run on various hardware configs, ie what do you need to run it on high settings?
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #29526 2731 posts
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To run it on full detail at a resolution like 1920 x 1200 you would need a fairly decent system.
I am running; Q6600 @3.1Ghz 8MB DDR2 800Mhz with pagefile disabled Leadtek 8800GTX
I get pretty decent performance at 1920 x 1200 with medium detail and if I set it to high the framerate varies between playable and not so I just disable a few unnecessary options and it still looks spectacular.
That being said with the performance improvements I have seen you should be able to run it on lower specs without too much issue if you are willing to either drop the resolution or drop the detail levels, and from what people are saying it still looks great at low detail and runs on much worse systems than mine.
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #42690 320 posts
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Draoki writes... Please be aware that all of the major Australian guilds are having a discussion this Sunday to decide where they will all reside. We are aiming to all get onto the same server.
The choice might be made even easier if what is said here is true:
forums.ageofconan.com/sh...amp;postcount=77
We will let you know how the server names are distributed among the different territories/communities soon. And then we will also be able to tell you who will get Crom, Mitra, Set and Aquilonia, Cimmeria and Stygia as server names.
And we will then also state which servers are "recommended Oceanic".
Thanks again for your contribution.
SO it could be that we get the Oceanic tags after all, thankfully.
Now I just need GA to host the retail client and all will be good in the world...
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #29526 2731 posts
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just looking at the AoC forums and it really makes me wonder what is going on inside some people's heads.
The amount of complaints and general posts saying "when will the download be available for early access?" is ridiculous.
Do people not realise that it's going to be a whole week before they can do anything with the client anyway?! I would rather wait a day and download when the servers aren't choked up but regardless I don't see the need to be impatient about it.
Besides, I still have a small amount of hope that I can modify my beta client to update with what it needs and hopefully reduce my download by half :)
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #173516 461 posts
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Well looks like the client isn't up yet so im off to bed hopefully it will be up tomorrow.
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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Thanks zepthiir for that informative reply. I have an 8800 GTS 320mb and will be running at 1920x1200 so I suspect I will have to drop to medium settings.
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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plasmog writes... Thanks zepthiir for that informative reply. I have an 8800 GTS 320mb and will be running at 1920x1200 so I suspect I will have to drop to medium settings
Most likely yes, how much RAM do you have out of curiosity? I noticed a huge jump in performance going from 2GB to 4GB, and then even more when I went to 8GB
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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I have 2gb of ram, I suppose I could add more, it isn't exactly expensive now...
but is the extreme ram requiremnt because the beta has debug mode enabled?
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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User #29526 2731 posts
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plasmog writes... I have 2gb of ram, I suppose I could add more, it isn't exactly expensive now...
but is the extreme ram requiremnt because the beta has debug mode enabled?
They cleaned up a lot of the performance issues the debugger was causing, I suspect the RAM will still make a difference but it cant hurt to wait and see.
That being said I got 8GB of Corsair 800Mhz RAM for $220 all up so its not like upgrading is expensive as you said ;)
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posted 2008-May-10, 11pm AEST
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posted 2008-May-11, 12am AEST
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User #10139 5373 posts
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Gah the free-for-all pvp is really annoying. People camping the spawn, hiding near mobs so when you go to solo some mobs you get ganked etc..
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posted 2008-May-11, 2am AEST
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User #122691 732 posts
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Zepthiir writes... That being said I got 8GB of Corsair 800Mhz RAM for $220 all up so its not like upgrading is expensive as you said ;)
On Vista 64?
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posted 2008-May-11, 6am AEST
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User #144286 1426 posts
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Skyce writes... Gah the free-for-all pvp is really annoying.
Hi I am Riore, I am going to be playing a Necro or Demon. I played Closed Beta and got to 20 in 3 days, And entered the second town with as a Demonologist.
Vanguard FFA was awesome : [ My brother and I played a bard and Sorc and we'd go invisible and camp the Elf towns bank(I hate elves). I don't know how PvP is going to work in Age of Conan yet so I hope someone can enlighten me.
As for Ganking the people have the right to do it, yeah it makes you angry but it makes you want to level harder and faster as well.
As for the Game Client, you could always go over a friends house and borrow some quota, I know I will be, my 60GB is a tight budget in this household. Three of my friends are also going to be playing this game.
I just upgraded from, AMD x2 4000+ 2.5Ghz ATI 2600XT 256mb DDR800 3x 1GB Vista Ultimate 64bit
New PC is Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz DDR800 2x 2GB (Maybe another 2x 2GB in a month or so) Vista Ultimate 64bit 17" LCD (Getting a 24" at Christmas" I hope to run it at highest settings 9800GTX
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posted 2008-May-11, 9am AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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Is any kind soul willing to mail out a few burned dvds at near cost price to enable early access for those of us with relatively small download quotas? I will love you forever.
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posted 2008-May-11, 9am AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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plasmog writes... I have an 8800 GTS 320mb and will be running at 1920x1200 so I suspect I will have to drop to medium settings.
I have a 8800 320MB also and haven't found 1900x1200 playable at all, had to drop it to 1650x1080 (or whatever it is). Run at about 30-80 FPS depending on what is on the screen, even drops to 10-20 sometimes but no idea why.
Rest of my specs are Intel Core 2 Duo 6400, 8GB RAM, Vista 64. Hoping the DX10 client cleans up some of the code compared to the DX9 client.
Purchased another 10GB off node so I can kick off the download tomorrow when EB finally cough up their codes.
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posted 2008-May-11, 10am AEST
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User #26206 549 posts
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Just curious, I've got an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core processor (2.5GHz), 2 gigs of RAM and an NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS and planing on running AoC at 1280 by 1024. Will I be O.K.?
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posted 2008-May-11, 10am AEST
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User #125761 321 posts
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Sigh the decision of what class to go is tough :/
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posted 2008-May-11, 10am AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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dragon writes... Will I be O.K.?
Should be OK at that res, not sure about high detail textures though unless you have the 640MB GTS card.
Going to play around with settings today and see how far I can push my machine and still be playable.
Absolutely love the new load times though... or actual complete lack of them after the initial load after character screen.
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posted 2008-May-11, 10am AEST
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User #26206 549 posts
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Owen. writes... Should be OK at that res, not sure about high detail textures though unless you have the 640MB GTS card.
Thanks Owen. Still only have a 19 inch CRT as well - no point in buying something new until this one explodes!
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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Well after playing around for 30 min or so with settings it looks like I have found a good combination for running at 1900x1200 with medium settings.
Sits at about 30-40 FPS constantly in Wild Lands, should probably go and check it in tortage as that is where I always had the most issues with frame rate.
Chaning to Anisotropic filtering over biliniar made a damn good difference in FPS for me.
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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I strongly recommend all whirlpoolians try to join up with Primal Fury as soon as registrations reopen, as it looks to be by far the dominant Oceanic guild, and given our small numbers, we will need to stick together to take on the masses in the US
conan.primalfury.org/phpBB2/index.php
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #89426 1170 posts
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What detail do you guys think I can run AOC @ with 1680-1050?
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E6600 @ 3.55ghz 8800gt galaxy @ 700core, 2000mem 4gb DDR2 corsair
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #7933 1548 posts
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?ii??r writes... What detail do you guys think I can run AOC @ with 1680-1050?
Medium at least, maybe high, running DX9 or DX10?. High textures aren't in the game as yet from what I have been reading so cant say on that sorry.
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #69383 842 posts
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plasmog writes... ll whirlpoolians try to join up with Primal Fury as soon as registrations reopen
I was looking at them yesterday however reading the other threads I see they're going to play on an RPvP server. I don't know how to RP or what that involves. NO, 1 dun type lyk dis as wel.
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #171255 792 posts
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I don't have any inclination towards RP either, but all it really means is that you stay within the bounds of your character in global chat channels. So no chuck norris references... I can't say I'll miss them.
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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plasmog writes... I strongly recommend all whirlpoolians try to join up with Primal Fury as soon as registrations reopen, as it looks to be by far the dominant Oceanic guild
That's a rather far fetching statement, you obviously haven't visited Random Mayhem's forums.
If you want to be on a real PvP server with real PvP rules, not half rules like the RP-PvP servers, come and drop us a line at www.randommayhem.net
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posted 2008-May-11, 11am AEST
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plasmog writes... I don't have any inclination towards RP either, but all it really means is that you stay within the bounds of your character in global chat channels. So no chuck norris references... I can't say I'll miss them.
That's not "all it really means".
The rule set for PvP on the server is completely different. Go and research it before you "highly recommend" it to people.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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I should clarify why this gets under my grill so much;
I've been stung numerous times on MMO's with people "highly recommending" classes, servers and guilds only to find out that it's nothing like I was told about. "oh lol, didn't know that, wups" is generally the response I get.
If you're going to highly recommend something or someone, then make sure you know what the hell you're talking about so you don't screw people over down the track. PvE, PvP and RP-PvP servers are all extremely different things. Don't think for a second that just because RP-PvP servers only have 2 additional letters that they're near identical to PvP servers, because they aren't. It's a completely different ball park.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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User #27797 3915 posts
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plasmog writes... I strongly recommend all whirlpoolians try to join up with Primal Fury as soon as registrations reopen, as it looks to be by far the dominant Oceanic guild,
Whoa up Turbo.
I went and had a look, and aside from a pretty site that makes it clear that the Guild leaders are major Manowar fans, there is very little of actual substannce that I could find on casual perusal.
So far the only indication of any dominance is a lot of applicants, but then I saw one guild on EQ2 that had 400+ members around 2 minutes into launch and the a$$hattery was unbelievable as there was clearly a lot lacking at the top pf the tree... so (size =/= good).
Perhaps a bit of history about who the founders of the guild are, what the objectives are, etc etc would be handy to have slammed right out front as the absolute first page so that anybody swinging by can have a good understanding of what its going to be about.
I ran a 'high end ub3r guild' on EQ1 for too long and still bear the mental scarring, so it's not hard to become a dominant guild, but you make life easier for all concerned if the game plan is laid out from day dot.
I saw one post asking this exact question, and basically it slipped by without a solid answer. This is truly a concern to me if the claim is the dominant Oceanic guild
I'm presuming you are a member/officer here by the way.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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User #69771 1453 posts
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What's the bare minimum system requirements you'd need to run this game?
I have a laptop that I can run COD4 on low settings, I guess Age of Conan would be a bit of a stretch? lol
i have: 1.66GHz (2 CPUs, so it says under system information) 1GB Ram ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 (approx total memory is 512MB)
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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Draoki writes... The rule set for PvP on the server is completely different.
I'm still struggling a bit with rp-pvp v pvp, any definitive reading that clears it up explicitly?
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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BrinK writes... Sigh the decision of what class to go is tough :/
I know what you mean.
I wanted to play a healer for my main and am still undecided between a PoM or a BS. Apparently they heal the same, only the PoM shares its Mana for nuking and healing.
The BS has decent melee powers so it can save it's Mana for healing.
As a result I am leaning toward the latter, but I have been burned on hybrids before (WoW, I am looking at you).
There's still a week left, but if I am going to play a healer I want the class that does the best job of it.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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Attalas writes... I'm still struggling a bit with rp-pvp v pvp, any definitive reading that clears it up explicitly?
I'm new to the mmo scene, with AoC being my first, so it would be great to get an explanation of this (though I suppose it differs from game to game). My understanding of rp-pvp is limited at best!
Given what I have read so far, I'm thinking I will be going with PVE, at least to start with anyhow.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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For people who ordered with Gameplanet did you ask for your code by PM or e-mail? I've sent them 2 PMs in reply to their message about the codes being in but haven't gotten any response, i think i might have to e-mail them next.
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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Draoki writes... If you want to be on a real PvP server with real PvP rules, not half rules like the RP-PvP servers, come and drop us a line at www.randommayhem.net
I don't think "real PvP" is going to turn out like you expect. Even the people who like free-for-all PvP are hating the Age of Conan PvP servers. It's all spawn-point camping and nobody can do anything.
forums.ageofconan.com/sh...86867&page=4
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posted 2008-May-11, 12pm AEST
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User #168020 5 posts
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Just because a few people post doesn't mean everyone hates it. Personally I love the ffa pvp rule set, so what if there are gankers and campers just means you get tighter with your guildies fighting them off and sometimes being the gankers ;).
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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User #199557 577 posts
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Enlightened writes... For people who ordered with Gameplanet did you ask for your code by PM or e-mail?
I sent them an email, no response, sent another email... eventually got a reply with my code.
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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Attalas writes... Perhaps a bit of history about who the founders of the guild are, what the objectives are, etc etc would be handy to have
You must have missed it, it's in the public main page of the AoC recruitment forum: www.randommayhem.net/boa...?f=87&t=7106
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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Draoki, I', actually really looking forward how the game performs first. If per-chance I do happen to get the game, I will indefinitely have a look at your guild.
But one question, is your guild 'hardcore', as in there is a strict time where all members of the guild must be present at a location for some activity? Or can a 'semi-casual' gamer like me join the fight?
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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User #76514 219 posts
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We've catered the structure of the guild to facilitate both player types.
We have a couple of casual players who are already in the guild who are coming across from WoW, as well as alot of "hardcore" players, so no matter how often you want to play you'll fit right in :)
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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Tale writes... I don't think "real PvP" is going to turn out like you expect. Even the people who like free-for-all PvP are hating the Age of Conan PvP servers. It's all spawn-point camping and nobody can do anything.
forums.ageofconan.com/sh...86867&page=4
Ehr ... that's definitely what PvP is, mate ... it's unfair, it's generally not fun for the losing side and it's a pain in the ass if you don't have someone to back you up, but that's the intended play style.
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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User #103811 3072 posts
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Draoki writes... We've catered the structure of the guild to facilitate both player types.
Thats good to hear, i might sus it out as well.
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posted 2008-May-11, 1pm AEST
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Demonoid writes... Given what I have read so far, I'm thinking I will be going with PVE, at least to start with anyhow.
Yeah, I did the same thing with WoW. I majorly regretted it once I have the level cap. It was unbelievably boring!
Then I went to a PvP server and had a blast. Leveling was a lot harder, but if I ever got bored I could just go out and engage in some world PvP. It added a new dimension to leveling, questing and even traveling from point a to point b. I personally loved the PvP rule set and will never play on a PvE server again.
Having said that, it's all up to personal preference. If you can hack getting ganked by a character you have no hope of defending yourself against, or if you have a large group of friends who are willing to quest together so you can all defend yourselves, then PvP is probably for you. If not, then go PvE!
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Attalas writes... I'm still struggling a bit with rp-pvp v pvp, any definitive reading that clears it up explicitly?
I'll see if I can dig up those articles ...
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Draoki writes... You must have missed it, it's in the public main page of the AoC recruitment forum: www.randommayhem.net/boa...?f=87&t=7106
I got yours, I was more refferring to the claims around Primal Fury by plasmog.
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Attalas writes... I'm still struggling a bit with rp-pvp v pvp, any definitive reading that clears it up explicitly?
community.ageofconan.com...ws_features_game ve3d.ign.com/articles/ne...ing-Server-Rules
There are some more, but I'm having trouble finding them.
Basically, PvP is open slather warfare. RP-PvP is a role playing server where you have to stay in character at all times. You can't attack someone randomly, unless you have a good in character reason to; IE you can't play a "homicidal maniac". Generally (and this isn't a rule) any PvP will be pre pended and appended with a player run role playing scene. It's unclear what the disciplinary action is for breaking those rules, but Funcom have committed to policing these servers to stamp out harassment and Out Of Character behavior.
Too many rules for my liking. If I want to RP (have never had the urge while playing an MMO) I can still do so on a PvP server. If I want to go homicidal on some n00bs because they're stealing my mobs, I want to be able to without having to role play an excuse for ~10 minutes before hand.
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Attalas writes... I got yours, I was more refferring to the claims around Primal Fury by plasmog.
My bad, for some reason I thought your response was quoting something I said - I've still got a massive hang over from last night :)
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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User #206206 1045 posts
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So what is the monthly cost for the game going to be?
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Karandus writes... So what is the monthly cost for the game going to be?
This much
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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at work cant open the site.. I would of checked myself otherwise
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Draoki writes... If I want to go homicidal on some n00bs because they're stealing my mobs, I want to be able to without having to role play an excuse for ~10 minutes before hand.
'You stole my glory, and I shall avenge the insult' what 10 minutes :p
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Karandus writes... at work cant open the site.. I would of checked myself otherwise
Hasn't been announced, they just quote 'industry trends'.
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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'You stole my glory, and I shall avenge the insult' what 10 minutes :p
Touche!
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Draoki writes... Basically, PvP is open slather warfare. RP-PvP is a role playing server where you have to stay in character at all times. You can't attack someone randomly, unless you have a good in character reason to; IE you can't play a "homicidal maniac". Generally (and this isn't a rule) any PvP will be pre pended and appended with a player run role playing scene
Wrong, and it shows how desperate you are for people to join your guild to lie to everyone's face. Either that or you lack basic comprehension abilities.
You can kill whoever you want on RP-PVP servers. You can be a "homicidal maniac", you just can't use that as an excuse to violate the standard terms and conditions of the game, ie abusing people in chat channels.
When making up BS is the best reason you can find for people to join your guild, you know it has major problems.
BTW turned anyone down yet? I'm in your guild, and I can't see a single app you've rejected. Ever.
Please respect roleplayers. We recognize that not everyone is willing or able to maintain a persona at all times, and we welcome you to enjoy the atmosphere. However, please do not insult or harass the people in character, call them silly, or otherwise try to ruin their immersion. Harassment and other behaviors covered in the rules of conduct are still covered on roleplaying servers. “I’m just roleplaying a homicidal maniac” is not an excuse for harassing, griefing, etc., other players. This extends to racism/nationalism as well. Roleplaying someone that hates Stygians/Aquilonians/Cimmerians is perfectly alright, however, real world racism is not acceptable.
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posted 2008-May-11, 2pm AEST
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Demonoid writes... Given what I have read so far, I'm thinking I will be going with PVE, at least to start with anyhow.
After being group-ganked as soon as I loaded outside the village, and with people camping the spawn zones whre you rez I will be doing the same.
Which is cool - there's the PvP minigames and the Border Kingdoms if I ever feel like PvPing.
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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Karandus writes... So what is the monthly cost for the game going to be?
1 Month Recurring USD $ 14.99
3 Month Recurring USD $ 41.97
6 Month Recurring USD $ 77.94
That's off the official AoC website.
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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Plasmog,
Are you in Fury or Mayhem? And if in either, can you clarify whether you are a member/officer/leader please?
Cheers
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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plasmog writes... You can kill whoever you want on RP-PVP servers. You can be a "homicidal maniac", you just can't use that as an excuse to violate the standard terms and conditions of the game, ie abusing people in chat channels.
Well that all depends on what Funcom's definition of 'griefing' is. “I’m just roleplaying a homicidal maniac” is not an excuse for harassing, griefing, etc., other players. So if they decide spawn camping is griefing then you will not be able to get away with doing it on the RP servers. Although that being said if they decide this is griefing then I imagine there would be punishment for it on the regular PvP servers also.
But regardless I think Draoki is also slightly off the mark. You do not need a valid in character reason to kill someone on an RP-PVP server. They are not generally that strict, instead an RP server is a place where roleplaying is generally more encouraged but usually the only out of character stuff that will get you in trouble is things like l33t speak in public chat.
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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plasmog writes... You can kill whoever you want on RP-PVP servers. You can be a "homicidal maniac", you just can't use that as an excuse to violate the standard terms and conditions of the game, ie abusing people in chat channels. Funcom writes... "I’m just roleplaying a homicidal maniac" is not an excuse for harassing, griefing, etc., other players. Funcom writes... Please do not interfere or harass players that are in character or running an event. We encourage you to join in and have a good time, but disrupting a wedding, guild meeting, etc. for non-roleplaying reasons may be cause for punishment.
Source: ve3d.ign.com/articles/ne...ing-Server-Rules
Considering you're always In Character on an RP-PvP server, hence the numerous rules, you can't attack someone for no reason. You need to have an in character reason and you need to establish that reason.
Also, the definition of griefing is: The term "griefing" became popular with the proliferation of MMORPG's. Griefing is a term used to describe players whos sole intentions are to cause grief for other players. Griefer's usually participate in the theft of items from other online characters, unwarranted and unbiased player-killing, and even deception. Griefer's are a pain to the majority of players in a community as well as to the developers of a particular game. Griefers usually stay within the bounds and guidelines of the game, therefore they cause a miserable experience for other players, yet can't be disciplined by developers due to their abidance to the rules.
Take special note of: unwarrented and unbiased player-killing. plasmog writes... BTW turned anyone down yet? I'm in your guild, and I can't see a single app you've rejected. Ever.
For World of Warcraft, we have denied people entrance into the guild on countless occasions, primarily because we wanted to keep the guild small, focused, extremely friendly and within certain classes size limits.
For Age of Conan, no we haven't turned anyone away. We have openly announced that we will be undiscriminately recruiting for Age of Conan to bolster our numbers. Recruiting started last week and so far we've had 10+ members join, which is fantastic considering the only place we've been actively recruiting is here. The only other advertising we have is a website on the AoC Wikipedia and a forum post on the AoC main forums, which aren't ever bumped so people have to stumble across.
So far everyone who has applied has filled out their application form and have done so to a good standard. Even if they hadn't, we wouldn't turn them away because we believe in giving people a fair go. If after being accepted they turned out to be douche bags then they'll be booted on their ass quick smart.
Regardless, I fail to see how accepting people into our guild is a bad thing?
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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Zepthiir writes... But regardless I think Draoki is also slightly off the mark. You do not need a valid in character reason to kill someone on an RP-PVP server. They are not generally that strict, instead an RP server is a place where roleplaying is generally more encouraged but usually the only out of character stuff that will get you in trouble is things like l33t speak in public chat.
That depends on how an individual interprets the rules and how Funcom enforce the rules.
If Funcom aren't going to enforce the rules at all, then RP-PvP and PvP realms will be identical. If they are going to enforce the rules, they'll be worlds apart.
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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do they have a client out that has the debugger removed or turned down for the beta. My system is having huge problems running this game and I found out this huge debugger is running in the background taking like 50% of the resources :S
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posted 2008-May-11, 3pm AEST
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Attalas writes... Plasmog,
Are you in Fury or Mayhem? And if in either, can you clarify whether you are a member/officer/leader please?
Cheers
I am in Mayhem, and was planning to join them on launch until I read their forums and came across a multitude of posts with core members of the guild talking about how they'll just get everyone on board now and then dump people later, and saw the political structure which basically means the GM and his buddies get all the benefits, and everyone else pays the price, since they decide who goes in which guild sub-group, and will undoubtedly stack the sub-groups to their greatest benefit.
I am going to apply to fury after their apps reopen, as I have found them generally honest, competent and forward looking, not dreaming up petty ways to structure a guild for their greatest personal benefit.
And no Draoki, no matter how many times you say it, there is no "rule" that on an RP-PVP server you have to roleplay a reason for attacking people. The exact same rules about harrassing and griefing apply on RP-PVP and regular PVP servers.
You are confused by the statements that Roleplay will not be an EXCUSE for breaking the Ts and Cs. For example, you can't "roleplay" a rapist as an excuse to rape other characters.
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posted 2008-May-11, 4pm AEST
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U have some issues Plasmog :)
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posted 2008-May-11, 4pm AEST
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plasmog writes... I am in Mayhem
LOL presuming the words you are looking for is 'WAS in...' :p
not dreaming up petty ways to structure a guild
Fury doesn't appear yet to have any real structure, nor goals, objectives, DKP rules or even the suggestion of what these may look like... all are crucial to establish as far in advance as possible.
So I go back to my earlier point, they certainly wont be ahead of the pack or a premier guild any time soon if they dont get that nailed down on the double, and to be honest they have bulked up numbers already which does indicate bulk recruitment over targetted, which is apparently no different to Mayhem. So...
Just to set the record straight, I am not a member of either, I am looking around to get a grasp of what guilds are where and what they will be doing (structure goals etc)
On the other hand the rather abrupt mauling you appear to be trying to dish toward Mayhem whilst extolling the virtues of a guild you aren't even in is also worrying, and frankly more likely to damage the rep of Fury if other players read it. They may erroneously assume that Fury advocates pretty poor public relations, trolling, and other such poor standards of behaviour.
Not trying to have a go at you, but I think it's worth pointing out how your posts are coming across to me.
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posted 2008-May-11, 5pm AEST
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I think lag will really harm the PVP in this game more than any other. Missing the chance to get off a combo because of a lag hiccup can be deadly as while you are lagging you do no damage at all.
I am getting massive lag spikes (up to 9800ms) with my ISP iSage. I have heard the bigger ISPs get better pings though so definitely check out the connection before getting set on PVP.
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posted 2008-May-11, 8pm AEST
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They've made it so that anyone with latency below 500 ms will be on a level playing field, which is good for us aussie as most average a latency of ~280 from what I've seen.
It's bizare that you're getting those spikes - I certainly haven't been. Hopefully your ISP finds out what's going on and fixes it ASAP!
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posted 2008-May-11, 8pm AEST
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Draoki writes... They've made it so that anyone with latency below 500 ms will be on a level playing field, which is good for us aussie as most average a latency of ~280 from what I've seen.
What exactly have they done that levels the playing field for the latency challenged? I've not seen anything relating to this.
I have been getting 280-300ms pings on the beta servers so far which isnt bad at all and far better than what I normally get in WoW.
I havent really had much issue with playing melee characters which is usually the main issue with higher latency.
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posted 2008-May-11, 9pm AEST
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Matt writes... What exactly have they done that levels the playing field for the latency challenged? I've not seen anything relating to this.
This is just what I have experienced...
When you swing to attack, you generally have half a second or so between pressing the button, and your character connecting and doing damage on the target. If you have say, a 250 ping (a quarter of a second latency) its quite simple, all you need to do is register the hit on the server's end 250ms earlier than usual.
The result is lag-free combat.
This doesn't take into account the position of you or your enemy though, so yeah PvP is still dis-advantageous for us.
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posted 2008-May-11, 9pm AEST
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I have been getting a pretty constant 250ms average ping. Haven't had any huge spikes that I can recall.
Haven't had any issues yet with melee but I also havent had a chance to play any PvP yet so I am not sure how much of an effect it will have there.
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posted 2008-May-11, 9pm AEST
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Matt, it was in the patch notes:
Gameplay - even if your latency is ~500 you’ll still be able to play AoC without any problems. Amongst other things FC uses an invisible “action queue” to ensure this. FC is aware of the concerns of dial up/isdn users and therefore built the engine in a way that let those players also enjoy the game.
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posted 2008-May-11, 9pm AEST
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Draoki writes... There are some more, but I'm having trouble finding them.
ty for those
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posted 2008-May-11, 10pm AEST
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Well that was fun,
The beta servers shut down about 25 mins ago so its all over red rover. Pearl was kind enough to let me try it out to see what it was like, thank you very much mate :-) I would comment on performance but its a beta so there is little point. A couple of game crashes in 7 hours but otherwise very playable. My specs are CPU e6400@3Ghz GPU 8800GT MEM 2GB resolution 1680x1050. Adding another 2GB of ram would help as it uses nearly all the memory. Ram cheap now anyway.
Its hard to say what AoC reminded me of. They certainly have combined the most recent MMO developments into the interface and the combat is very different but really not hard to use at all. Overall the brief experience was pleasing. Those of you who have experienced other MMO beta's will know that is saying a great deal. Put it this way, its vaguely familiar yet completely different. I enjoyed it and now I am now really looking forward to the release.
Regards
OliphanT
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posted 2008-May-11, 10pm AEST
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Well said that man! ^^
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posted 2008-May-11, 10pm AEST
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Hey everyone,
Iam getting AOC as soon as it comes out and I am looking for a good guild to start off in, I have 2yrs experience in WoW and 6months Guild wars so Iam not new to mmos. Raided pre bc and bc up to SSC and TK
Anyone got any way to get me into a decent guild?
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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Sure, apply!
www.randommayhem.net :)
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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Well apparently the guilds are voting on a preferred server tomorrow but there seems to be a lack of information on Oceanic guilds. Im looking for links to the vote and also to a list of AoC guilds. So far havent seen much.
OliphanT
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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aoc.wikia.com/wiki/Guilds_continent forums.ageofconan.com/sh...read.php?t=70653
The vote was held tonight, no specific server was selected however preferences and a system for picking the server was decided on.
At present, it's all dependent on what Funcom decide do with us. Whether they give us our own Oceanic Preferred realms hosted in the US which are set up with our time zone in mind (likely), if they give us our own realms hosted here in Australia (impossible at launch, unlikely later down the track) or if we just get stuck with the US realms.
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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plasmog writes... I am in Mayhem, and was planning to join them on launch until I read their forums and came across a multitude of posts with core members of the guild talking about how they'll just get everyone on board now and then dump people later, and saw the political structure which basically means the GM and his buddies get all the benefits, and everyone else pays the price, since they decide who goes in which guild sub-group, and will undoubtedly stack the sub-groups to their greatest benefit.
Hi Symbiote, So names don't get confused this is Absolute of Random Mayhem. AoC Leader.
I was hoping that I was approachable enough for you to come and discuss with me your issues with how we have structured the guild and what we are planning to do.
Random Mayhem's structure was decided by the people in it, not simply the core members but an ever growing group of players from our WoW section, some of which have only been with the guild for a week or less as well as new applicants to the guild.
We had a vote between two options for guild structure. One - Big and Powerful, Two - Small and close knit. Coming from WoW we had developed some very strong friendships in a medium sized guild having every single person on a first name basis and because of that some people were concerned that in a huge guild personality clashes could damage the environment. The part you are referring to "dump people later" isn't accurate because we were talking about people who didn't fit with the guild persona. If a big guild wasn't for us would we just disband the guild? No, we would remove the people who weren't cohesive with the majority of people. In a close knit group having people who can't get along together doesn't work.
The structure of the guild also planned for 180 members and 33 leadership near it's largest point. I can say right now that there are only three people who are in the leadership pool. Those people are Brighid, myself and Elishda. Yes I realise that is static but the effort Brighid and Elishda have put in, and will be putting in to keeping the guild running correctly is unfathomable. Every single other position will go through a recruitment process to fill and the person who fills the job the best will get it and in truth I know that most of the "core" RM members are looking to play, not lead.
We were also planning for an effort=reward system based on the actual amount of resources and gold you bring into the guild, not on RL time dedicated to managing, administering and leading the guild. The more effort you put in that is equally measurable between all members, the more the guild gives back to you so I don't understand how the Leadership group has an edge over the members. The only time a Leadership member will be rewarded over a normal member is if they are actually putting in more work. That is more in-game hours towards bettering the guild.
Sub-group structure won't be "the best in group one" it will be an even spread of classes across groups so that they can do events together. We want the whole guild to be successful, why would we only make a single group successful?
Your comments about the guild tax were understandable, we will not be using guild resources as a welfare center for members regardless of stature. The guild resources are to get us into the Border Kingdoms and claiming Battlekeeps.
Lastly with recruitment, we have not rejected anyone applying for AoC yet, when we are going for large numbers and when everyone meets our requirements of being 17 or older why would we? We want to test all players and see if they fit with our guild, if they are blatantly discriminative then they will soon see the door to the guild but we are happy to give all people the benefit of the doubt first time around.
I will not be replying further to this thread on these forums, I am however happy to discuss in our public sections of the Random Mayhem if you would like to continue this discussion. As you have indicated that you will not be playing with us I will remove your access from our member forums. It sounds like you've been in guilds where the leadership have abused their privileges before and I understand why you are cautious but at least take the time to talk to us before making a blanket statement like above. We are people and adults at that.
Absolute www.randommayhem.net
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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pox67 writes... I think lag will really harm the PVP in this game more than any other. Missing the chance to get off a combo because of a lag hiccup can be deadly as while you are lagging you do no damage at all.
I don't have any personal experience but think it should be fine:
* pings of over 500ms shouldnt be a problem in gameplay. there is a invisible actionqueue. FC was converned about different internetconnections liek dialups, ISDN etc and constructed the game engine in a way that everyone will enjoy the game
from www.imtwelve.com/forum/v...?f=42&t=5749
Also if you're looking for a guild check out the forums and see if you'll fit in with us at Twelve (WoW), -XII- in AoC: www.imtwelve.com/forum
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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oO OliphanT Oo writes... Pearl was kind enough to let me try it out to see what it was like, thank you very much mate :-)
Yup, im awesome :P
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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Closeninja, are there any old enigma members left in Twelve?
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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CLOSETNINJA writes... Also if you're looking for a guild check out the forums and see if you'll fit in with us at Twelve (WoW), -XII- in AoC: www.imtwelve.com/forum
You guys should put your names down here: aoc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Guilds forums.ageofconan.com/sh...read.php?t=70653
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posted 2008-May-11, 11pm AEST
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?ii??r writes... Closeninja, are there any old enigma members left in Twelve?
Hi there :) Yeah there's still quite a few playing I believe and still some posting on the forums. There's definitely some trying out AoC with us too which should be great.
Pop by on the forums if you want to say hello to them, it's a nice friendly place with a great bunch of people :)
<3 Closetninja (Fork, ex-GM of <Twelve>)
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posted 2008-May-12, 12am AEST
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Found this amusing Video by Primal Fury
I like the sentiment and we need a server. Good effort Faith. Can I chuckle just a little?
OliphanT
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posted 2008-May-12, 12am AEST
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Draoki writes... Whether they give us our own Oceanic Preferred realms hosted in the US
Good to see that these "great" guilds are reading the official boards and staying up to date.
They officially said saturday night our time that they ARE going to be marking some servers as Oceanic prefered. So save yourselves some time and wait for the server name releases etc.
Closed beta was taken down for 12 hours last night for another patch last night also so more fixes on the way i hope.
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posted 2008-May-12, 7am AEST
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