Jazza writes...

I've just 'migrated' over to the second island, the Industrial sector.

That's the 3rd one isn't it?

dayun writes...

That's the 3rd one isn't it?

Nope, second.

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PS. I know they're very early spoilers, but I thought I'd do the right thing.

Edit: What am I even doing on whirlpool?! Time to play some GTA :D

dayun writes...

That is still considered the first area. Algonquin is the second.

Ah excellent then. I'm hoping of stringing out at least 50~ hours out of this game.

Jazza writes...

I'm hoping of stringing out at least 50~ hours out of this game.

You probably will

I've put in ~26 hrs and only have 33% completed

:-)

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dayun writes...

I took out Derrick

Reasons why?

Versatility writes...

Reasons why?

Just plain pissed me off.

Guybrush Threepwood writes...

...the behind car view is too low - it needs to be a bit higher so you can see things in front of your car more easily

Don't know about 360 but the PS3 has 2 behind the car views, one close & low and the other a bit higher and further back.

But if you really want to see things in front of you then use the dash view ;)

(Possible spoiler)

Anyway talk about random events, I was in a mission where some guys hopped in a car to drive away, but they smashed straight into another vehicle and got into a fight with the other driver. Made it quite simple to walk up to the car and shoot the rest of them through the car window...

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Andhrímnir writes...

Don't know about 360 but the PS3 has 2 behind the car views, one close & low and the other a bit higher and further back.

The 360 has 3 views as well, all selected through the 'back' button whilst in the car.

Whilst meandering around the subways recently, I found a large flight of stairs and continuously pushed people down the stairs. If you want a great example of how well Euphoria works in this game, give it a try (morbid, but fun). People also tend to drop money when pushed down the stairs...

Pushing people in front of the trains is also fun!!! *evil cackle* even the cops don't care if you do this, unless it's one of them of course!

Guybrush Threepwood writes...

behind car view is too low - it needs to be a bit higher so you can see things in front of your car more easily and judge depth.

I agree.

johnyd writes...

Stairs+cops=funny

COOL!!

clawster writes...

no news about the 1.01 ps3 patch?

a friend of mine just downloaded it.
no problems sp or mp pre-patch.

post-patch, mp is dead. he describes the error as something like 'cannot connect to player, launching single player'.

just a quick update for any who are interested. patched my game to 1.01. both sp and mp are still fine.
bad luck for him, i guess...

flaggen writes...

Just a quick question for ppl playing on a non-hd/widescreen tv, does the game still look good? i've only got a 51cm crt atm :(

I started with a 32" widescreen interlaced CRT. It's playable, but some of the text is rather difficult to make out.

I got a HDMI cable this week and switched to my Dell 2408WFP, the difference is night and day. My TV hasn't been on since.

»Wade« writes...

I got a HDMI cable this week and switched to my Dell 2408WFP, the difference is night and day. My TV hasn't been on since.

Nice. i had a go on gta at gametraders today on the 1080 hdtv and the game looks amazing (ps3 version).

Trác writes...

Grab a helicopter, Go to a beach or open area with a lot of people. Tilt forward so your blades are cutting through the ground and watch people go flying because if the spinning rotor :D

Its funny hitting cars and trucks because they get launched massively, so much for the realistic physics, not having decapitation ruined the physics, what normally would cut things up now only launches them as if it had hit solidly across the whole thing. Cars should be able to be ripped in pieces like the chopper.

Although the bad drivers (myself included) mightent like having to get a new car every block because their old one is wrapped around a telegraph pole.

Guybrush Threepwood writes...

The only things annoying me so far about this game though are that the speech is too hard to hear (360), and the behind car view is too low - it needs to be a bit higher so you can see things in front of your car more easily and judge depth.

Agree fully with the car view. im constantly moving it up to see more of whats in front of me, just to have it shift back down again in a second

bob sacamento writes...

I mean you could give them the most oldest, shittiest, most worthless games?

There's more than likely exclusions. I seem to recall reading on here last night about a guy who tried to trade in PDZ for a cheaper copy of GTAIV and they wouldn't let him, simply because it was on the exclusions list.

Jazza writes...

a guy who tried to trade in PDZ for a cheaper copy of GTAIV and they wouldn't let him, simply because it was on the exclusions list

Yeah, I was gunna do that too but a mate said you can price match at EB as they dont have an exclusion list.

johnyd writes...

Also sorry to the guys I played with tonight, my microphone is broken and I forgot to change it so that the voice came through the speakers and I couldnt hear what you guys were saying.

Ah, that explains the silence. I was gunna post here saying "you should get a mic... much more fun", now I understand.

Was good fun for a while last night, then everyone left/got booted?... and I couldn't join anyone, everyone was in a party... none joinable.

:)

Guybrush Threepwood writes...

The only things annoying me so far about this game though are that the speech is too hard to hear (360), and the behind car view is too low

Couldn't agree more. Seems like a pretty stupid angle.
I am constantly on the right thumbstick tilting the camera up abit and straightening it up, also I have a habit of swinging the camera around the corners for a better view.
Its abit tricky at first but becomes 2nd nature after awhile.. get in car -> turn radio off -> pull back on right thumb stick

DaForce2000 writes...

Couldn't agree more.

Yeah, and again.

I tried the in-car view, just made me feel a bit motion-sick. Swerving and bouncing around, had to go back to the behind-car view.

Guybrush Threepwood writes...

The only things annoying me so far about this game though are that the speech is too hard to hear (360),

Same here too, so damn hard to hear what they say. I have even gone in and turned the radio off in the audio options... so much better. I'd rather hear the SFX than the crap they play on the radios.

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Jazza writes...

There's more than likely exclusions. I seem to recall reading on here last night about a guy who tried to trade in PDZ for a cheaper copy of GTAIV and they wouldn't let him, simply because it was on the exclusions list.

I just got it "free" for Fifa 08, NBA2K8 and Top Spin 2. I'm happy with that as I've played Fifa 08 to death and I never really played the other two.

johnyd writes...

THE ONLY THING CENSORED IS THE CAMERA ANGLE OF THE HOOKERS!!!!!!
Get The australian version and play it you wont miss anything as long as you dont pick up a hooker.

People just complain to death about the 'CUT' version. I mean get over it? It's one little thing and it's not like it's the end of your GTA IV experience, or is it?

DaForce2000 writes...

Its abit tricky at first but becomes 2nd nature after awhile.. get in car -> turn radio off -> pull back on right thumb stick

You do realise there are 3 selectable camera angles right? Press the back button and it goes a fair bit higher, press it again and it goes into cinematic mode and then again to return to default.

saunderez writes...

You do realise there are 3 selectable camera angles right? Press the back button and it goes a fair bit higher, press it again and it goes into cinematic mode and then again to return to default.

haha yeah of course.
None of them feel quite right IMO. The further back one isnt too bad, but i still adjust.
I do prefer the closer one to see and hear the car better, makes for easier squeezing thru cars as well.

... there is actually 4.. you forgot the incar (oops i meant bonnet cam) one.

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BigD! writes...

Was good fun for a while last night, then everyone left/got booted?... and I couldn't join anyone, everyone was in a party... none joinable.

Everyone dropped out at the same time, apart from me :D I was the only one left in the server. Not sure what was going on there ;)

Simon K writes...

Everyone dropped out at the same time, apart from me :D

Think that happened to all of us. I was all alone as party leader, everyone that was in there was "in a party". Oh well, have to have another go tonight.

Crazy CS writes...

it's not like it's the end of your GTA IV experience, OR IS IT?

+1
And, if it is, then you need to get out more...lol

Just enjoy the game, and don't bother with the "hooker scenes", geez, it's not like ya gunna learn anything...lmao.

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DaForce2000 writes...

None of them feel quite right IMO. The further back one isnt too bad, but i still adjust.

same here, especially if your going up a hill and want to see what coming, when your going as fast as u can like i do :P It also took a little while to get used to braking around corners, and even now i tend to bounce of sides of buildings/parked cars alot hehe, but that all adds to the fun :)

Diji writes...

Oh, and can someone clue me in on how to play bowling? I have no idea, I just end up making it go really fast or really slow, and I never get strikes.

To get strikes, I find easiest to step across twice, then pull back, hold it there for abit and push forward, trying to be as straight as possible with the thumbstick.
It will roll very slowly but should strike.

Anguish McBastard:
hehe yeah i often wipe out, going to wide and smashing into anything on the foot path.. usually people :)
But now i love to handbrake around most corners.. its wicked if you get it just right. nice drift :)

BigD! writes...

Think that happened to all of us. I was all alone as party leader, everyone that was in there was "in a party". Oh well, have to have another go tonight.

Yeah everyone got sent to diffreent games, I became host and about 4 people from the previous game were with me, so I think everyone except us got booted.

gucci writes...

what is a good site with a good walkthrough of GTA4 for PS3? iam doing that level something MOLTOV where u go to this club and need to shoot a guy , damn hard.

LOL...you mean Faustin.

That's right at the beginning of the game :P

gucci writes...

what is a good site with a good walkthrough of GTA4 for PS3? iam doing that level something MOLTOV where u go to this club and need to shoot a guy , damn hard.

Minor Spoiler - I think
You can also go to YouTube to check the video 'The Master and the Molotov' on how to do the mission.

gucci writes...

what is a good site with a good walkthrough of GTA4 for PS3? iam doing that level something MOLTOV where u go to this club and need to shoot a guy , damn hard.

www.mycheats.com

Pretty damn good site. check out the superguide

Orkus writes...

Agree fully with the car view. im constantly moving it up to see more of whats in front of me

On 360, how do I access the in-car view? I usually just press the "BACK" button to cycle through the camera modes, but all I get is three 'behind' views, a cinematic view, and a bonnet cam.

Is there another button I should be pressing?

leetkrew writes...

THe graphic is horrible rendering and blurring makes me sick. I hope RockStar will fix this issues. I give this game 5/10

That's an awesome way to rate the game. The graphics look fine and the gameplay is better than a lot of other games.

Of course I'm a little biased as I'm a fan of GTA having finished all of them since GTA3 was released.

Bingles writes...

Back on the internet now. So multiplayer is good then?

Deathmatch is mediocre. (GTA) Race is the best IMO.

Corvus writes...

and a bonnet cam.

I think bonnet cam is a close to an incar view you will get.

Prosper writes...

That's an awesome way to rate the game. The graphics look fine and the gameplay is better than a lot of other games.

at first i thought the graphics looked a bit dodgy.

but this is not meant to be gears of war - when you see how much is going on in liberty city, how much detail there is, then i appreciated just how amazing the graphics are.

but you have to admit, the explosions look pretty awesome.

LilBob writes...

6 hrs in and 5% done. im useless. ;D

But your loving every minute of it, right?

12 hours here and 17% done. 23 missions done.

gucci writes...

cant be at the begining of the game?

lol i done alot of missions so far man

Nope...check you should be about only 10% of the way through :P

Still awesome though, you have much to look forward too.

Prosper writes...

That's an awesome way to rate the game. The graphics look fine and the gameplay is better than a lot of other games.

Of course I'm a little biased as I'm a fan of GTA having finished all of them since GTA3 was released.

+1

2fast4u writes...

12 hours here and 17% done. 23 missions done.

9 Hours and 22% done :D (~35 missions or so)

dayun writes...

Yeah i'm trying to get the Rolled Over achievement

How do you guys know all the stunt locations?

Map on the net or just pure searching?

Trác writes...

How do you guys know all the stunt locations?

Map on the net or just pure searching?

Bit of both, some people would do it right and look for things themselves and hurl themselves off whatever looked jumpable others would look at a map and go from there. Some would look for as much as they could then go for the maps, because some are difficult to find and may even be in/ontop of buildings.

iOffline writes...

I haven't once been able to have my game show up on that site.

Have you linked it to your XBL account or PSN account?

Its in the "edit profile" part.
At first it didnt work for me. I think I ended up having to use IE and log out and back into the site for it to show up.

Trác writes...

How do you guys know all the stunt locations?

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Go to the in game internet.

www.whattheydonotwantyoutoknow.com

leetkrew writes...

THe graphic is horrible rendering and blurring makes me sick. I hope RockStar will fix this issues. I give this game 5/10

Becuase the actual story and gameplay isn't what makes a game. I don't get why people are bashing the graphics - they are well above any previous GTA and processing entire cities is no mean feat.

Ben Ley writes...

Becuase the actual story and gameplay isn't what makes a game. I don't get why people are bashing the graphics - they are well above any previous GTA and processing entire cities is no mean feat.

Sorry man, looks like you didn't get the memo that says that Crysis is the benchmark for sandbox games these days.

DaForce2000 writes...

Have you linked it to your XBL account or PSN account?

I linked my Xbox Live account and it seemed fine. Now it still has the "link" button but gives an error.

At first it didnt work for me. I think I ended up having to use IE and log out and back into the site for it to show up.

I tried IE but the same thing. I will give it another shot trying to link using that and see how it works.

I really want this to work as that "Key to the City" would have to be a collectors item. Surely it would be fairly limited.

xuhavon writes...

Ok ME: I start a player match>custom>add private slot>start free mode
game starts I invite friend> a message appears on his screen "wants to play"

Friend: starts player match>quick>free mode> get dump into another game

Your friend needs to bring up the mobile phone, choose multiplayer, then go to "Invites (1)" and choose to join the game.. How's that hard? :)

Edit: Or it might say Invites (2) if he has received 2 invites, and so on and so forth.

MickJT writes...

Your friend needs to bring up the mobile phone, choose multiplayer, then go to "Invites (1)" and choose to join the game.. How's that hard? :)

nope there is no invite join option in game,
But I did figure it out, you have to press the big X button on the controller, goto friends, select the friend and then choose join game. I will leave my noob rant up there in case anyone else is as stupid.

iOffline writes...

I really want this to work as that "Key to the City" would have to be a collectors item. Surely it would be fairly limited.

FYI the "key" is a virtual symbol...not a physical thing, lol.

DeepUnder writes...

any one else have this issue

Yeah, all speech volume is crap, dunno if it would be better with surround, but can hardly hear anything on the tv.

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DeepUnder writes...

running GTA4 over HDMI into my Pioneer LX508A TV. When it comes to the cut scenes between missions i have to increase the volume as i find it hard to hear.

Im running ps3 to Pioneer 508XDA via HDMI and im not having the issues you have. I do have optical out from PS3 to my reciever tho.

I do have subtitles on tho, mainly just for the Jacob conversations (Even then he is hard to understand)

h e a d writes...

what's the best way to shake a 4 star wanted level?

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h e a d writes...

This might be a bit of a silly question, but what's the best way to shake a 4 star wanted level?
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h e a d writes...

what's the best way to shake a 4 star wanted level?

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I don't know about the best way, but I did a 13 minute 4 Star session a couple of days ago (was trying for the achievement) didn't realise it was that long... lol Kept waiting for the achievemnet icon to come up. Checked my stats and said longest police chase was 12 minutes. Went and drove around again then checked the sats again and it said longest chase was 13 minutes, so I just drove away.

I was in a police car, just after one of the missions on Algonquin, I had to keep turning back towards the cops or I would have lost it too early.

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Next one I try is gunna be the 6 Star.

Wink writes...

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Call Francis.

Really, I never even thought of that, cool. Will try it after the 6 Star. Thanks.

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BigD! writes...

Next one I try is gunna be the 6 Star.

Easiest way to do this is get in a helicopter early in the game when the last island hasn't been unlocked yet and simply fly into it. 6 star wanted level straight away, then just fly out to sea and stay there for 5 mins lol.

Corvus writes...

Easiest way to do this

Yeah, that's what I'm gunna do right now... lol

:)

Question... Is it five minutes real time or five minutes by the time on your mobile, as the minutes go a lot faster on the phone.

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BigD! writes...

Question... Is it five minutes real time or five minutes by the time on your mobile, as the minutes go a lot faster on the phone.

Ummm might be 5 mins real time.

Either way, it's alot of fun flying around the heli.

MuZZbuZZ writes...

guys... any1 up to the Kill Dwayne or Playboy X mission?

Who did u kill?

People have said that in the short term, killing dwayne is cool bcoz u get playboys mansion and 250g or something...

but people have also said that in the long term dwayne goes loopy and it works out better than u kill him...

advice? thoughts?

Don't follow anyone else mate. Do what you want.

I killed Playboy because I don't like his name. It sounds like a 13 year old myspace kid name.

And yes, I got his apartment, but don't let it sway you. I've no idea what you get if you kill dwayne. Maybe the strip club you had to shoot up.

BigD! writes...

Question... Is it five minutes real time or five minutes by the time on your mobile, as the minutes go a lot faster on the phone.

I haven't tested because the clock isnt on the main hud anymore (I personally wish all of the cash, weapon things would stay up and they added time but oh well) but in previous gtas 1 minute = 1 second real time. so when it says, be at michelles within in an hour means you got a minute to get there.

cow writes...

Don't follow anyone else mate. Do what you want.

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hahah nah ive already done it. I killed Dwayne...

yes u get 25k cash (which is irrelevant in the game anyway), but playboy bars you anyway...

meh... it better come in handy later on

crowboy3103 writes...

where do you go find more body armor? I thought it'd be in the gun shop but still no luck!

It is in the weapons shop. Its on