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Hi all,

It has come to my attention through browsing the free content from other ISP's that Adam Internet is slowly, but surely, becoming outdated. (Discluding the FileArena which is pretty decent).

What I am talking about is availability of many more radio stations such as given at Internode:
www.internode.on.net/res.../broadband_radio

and maybe a more user friendly customer areas such as with iiNet's new Media Lounge:
iinet.net.au/my/media

If anything I am "partitioning" to update the Adam content area, and thought that through getting a list of ideas of what everyone wants to see may give Adam some direction.

Personally, I would love to see unmetered downloads from:
Radio Stations:
-Happyhardcore.com
-Switch FM

Music Stores:
-iTunes
-Zune

What do you want???

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I'm pretty sure that all of internodes local data is also local data for Adam so that radio station etc will be counted as local..

owenob1 writes...

Happyhardcore.com

Which is just DI.fm HappyHardcore, unless that has changed recently...

[EDIT] Nope, still one and the same.
[EDIT2] The aussie hardcore show is on, which is done by Cotts and Ravine, both two good mates of mate :P

camwilson04 writes...

radio station etc will be counted as local..

Only the radio stations that internode list in the Channels sponsored by Internode (Publicly available) is available to Adam, the rest are limited to Internode.

Well why can't they say that somewhere??

EDIT: **As in list ALL available stations etc.

owenob1 writes...

What do you want???

Adam's prices to stay lower than Internode's.

owenob1 writes...

"partitioning"

petition

Some high quality (192kb+) radio streams are about the only thing I'd like.

I hope you enjoy being with internode, you probably deserve each other. Goodbye.

Eh?!??!!

I want more local download.....cos I know how to use (abuse) it :)

I think Itunes is on akamai or something isn't it? So you'd run into the same problem that Internode (or any ISP) would have with trying to include that (Ips are so varies meaning you could download from any country).

games.internode.on.net/filelist.php go nuts comes of your local data i belive lol.

i nearly go over my local data before my normal data each week you just gotta know where to look.

HaHa - This is probably because the OP has been raving on (other threads) about how good Internode are, especially their 'freebies' - I wouldn't be taking any of this too seriously LOL

i would really like the playstation network to count as local. its a big ask i know but you have game arena for pc gamers what about console gamers?

owenob1 writes...

What do you want???

What do you want/expect owenob1?!

Your current Adam plan:
Home 1500 Average 20 GB Shaped Free Dynamic $49.95 /mo

Equivalent Internode plan:
HOME-1500-Power25 25 GB Shaped Free Dynamic $69.95 /mo

Equivalent iiNet plan:
Home 4 (bundle) 6 GB 12 GB Shaped Free Dynamic $59.95 /mo

- are the Node radio streams worth $240 a year more to you?

- is the iiNet fancy web page worth $120 more (plus compulsory home phone service) a year?

- As others have said, any of Node's PIPE data is local data for Adam users.

- Adam's CommunityNet - totally unmetered data (brilliant!)

But yes, it would be nice for Adam to have some more local data radio streams.

Tex writes...

it would be nice for Adam to have some more local data radio streams.

Yeah, that's one i would like to add - relly missed it when it was no longer available.

I extremely happy with what's already offered. Local PIPE data (Internode's games) is where I get all my demos and updates from.

CommunityNet is awesome. I would not go back to Internode ever again, been with them twice before and each time have been burnt, with either them taking services away or hiking up their prices.

I only used the radio stations on Internode because they were there, more of a novelty than anything, don't miss them.

Thank you Adam for providing me with a stable connection (something Internode failed to do and blamed my phone line) and thank you for increasing your usenet from 3gb to 10gb, although I use Astraweb most of the time.

PanterA

ABC internet TV

wanted separate local upload quota

lazydesi writes...

ABC internet TV

Now that would be awesome, chasers war on everything on local :D

owenob1 writes...

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With no replies from ADAM what does this mean??????
Maybe the whole internet should be free??????

But seriously, For me the main point of difference is price, affordability and continuity of service. I am still yet to get ADSL2 to my house, but it is on its way soon. As a Linux user I am happy to have FileArena with my updates not counted towards my DL limit. In my 'normal' usage, I use around 10% of my local data each month and I am happy to gain this advantage. Some extra radio stations would be an advantage if it does not affect the overall price of the service.

japplex writes...

Maybe the whole internet should be free??????

yeah what he said! ;-P

Is Whirlpool counted as local data?

No, don't think so. Pretty much only what is listed here - www.adam.com.au/pipe/pipe.php

Tex writes...

No, don't think so. Pretty much only what is listed here - www.adam.com.au/pipe/pipe.php

Ok thanks for that link Tex. Hope they add more stuff there to count as local data. Even Whirlpool would be cool to count as Local Data even though it might not add much data by itself. They have the old Big bro site listed on that page and not the new one I noticed. Does the new Big Bro site count as local as well I wonder. Might have to test it out soon.

ABC Playback TV would be great.

However offering that free is very difficault, due to the way teh ABC mirrors. Internode no longer offer ABC data free for that very reason.

vortex writes...

Internode no longer offer ABC data free for that very reason.

Yeah, Akamai is a tricky beast to try and setup as free data, not worth the time and effort looking for a viable way, except having a monkey sit there and pick on each ip each time someone access it :P

Mr Lindt writes...

Does the new Big Bro site count as local as well I wonder.

Still local - /forum-replies.cfm?t=963309#r4

(although every time I tracert it, it still times out)

Anthony-W writes...

This is probably because the OP has been raving on (other threads) about how good Internode are, especially their 'freebies

Except they aren't free. The last time I checked Internode cost more than Adam.

radio.3fl.net

something like that.

(used to be local, until Westnet - in their infinite wisdom - started routing it through Ploptus instead of PIPE ...) :|

That said, if it's going to add too much to Adam's costs, then just leave things as they are. I don't really feel like paying a bit more for my broadband just for some radio streams. If I really want to listen to any online radio (usually DI.fm, but these days I also listen to a bit of BBC Radio 4), I'll cop the external data usage on the chin.

Steam.

Danny writes...

Steam.

Would be nice but unlikely.
I'm happy with what Adam provide already as listed on www.adam.com.au/pipe/pipe.php .
But if possible since we are making requests the Planetmirror.com mirror, optusnet mirror and mirror.internode.on.net

Danny writes...

Steam.

Steam already have an Internode mirror for updates which is local data. But you just need to close the updater when it tries to download from another source as you can't specify which mirror to download from. Well there is a workaround to that though.

What I'd like to see as local is youtube lol.

GamingSA.com also has a steam cache, which is considered local data to adam users aswell

Black Death writes...

mirror.internode.on.net

... is already carried to Adam via PIPE Networks, and counts as local data. Best range of Linux ISOs (and I do mean Linux ISOs, not some dodgy euphemism) available as local data by far.

Switching to Adam soon will miss Sky.fm premium radio.. but I have lots more to look forward to

Now that iiNet have taken over Westnet, and are counting 3FL data as free data for iiNet users (/forum-replies.cfm?t=976876) does that mean it will now be local data again for Adam users?

Tex writes...

does that mean it will now be local data again for Adam users?

A quick trace to the stream server (streams.radio.3fl.net.au) shows that it's not going through pipe at this time. That's not to say that it won't in the future, but at least not for now.

Hmmm, confused...

/forum-replies.cfm?t=976876&p=2#r27
/forum-replies.cfm?t=976876&p=2#r34

From Perth he was hitting a PIPE link and the rep said Westnet peer with PIPE, so not sure why 3FL content doesn't go through PIPE for us?

NO-U writes...

GamingSA.com also has a steam cache, which is considered local data to adam users aswell

I thought Internode had the only Steam server in Australia? I know adam customers have peer access to games.internode.on.net, but do we also have access to the steam server?

Cos when I downloaded TF2 though steam the other day my download quota was hit for the entire amount (somewhere between 1GB and 2GB, and with prices starting at 70 dollars per GB on Adam Direct I can see how the trip down to your local EB to buy boxed games could be more appealing for some users).

Anyway, updates for steam games, can you get those from Adams peer file mirrors, or do steam game updates have to be gotten through Steam itself?

Danny writes...

Cos when I downloaded TF2 though steam the other day my download quota was hit for the entire amount

Try this - /forum-replies.cfm?t=943882

and with prices starting at 70 dollars per GB on Adam Direct I can see how the trip down to your local EB to buy boxed games could be more appealing for some users

Eh? $70 per GB?!?? $70 gets you 40GB external + 40GB local data per month. A typical PC game is 4-8GB.

Tex writes...

Try this - /forum-replies.cfm?t=943882

Cool ^_^ Are you sure it works for Adam users? If so, I could probably have saved myself about 12GB by now >.<

Eh? $70 per GB?!?? $70 gets you 40GB external + 40GB local data per month. A typical PC game is 4-8GB.

I like going for extreme examples, 35 dollars for the 500mb plan :P

Danny writes...

Are you sure it works for Adam users?

Unfortunately no idea as I'm not playing any Steam games but if you read through the thread it seems many people have found it works. Worth trying I would have thought.

I like going for extreme examples

Danny
Adam: Great ISP @ reasonable $
Whirlpool Enthusiast

I thought your quip indicated you were happy with your ISP?! :)

I am happy with Adam. But my satisfaction with Adam is not an extreme example ^_^

Tex writes...

Hmmm, confused...

/forum-replies.cfm?t=976876&p=2#r27
/forum-replies.cfm?t=976876&p=2#r34

From Perth he was hitting a PIPE link and the rep said Westnet peer with PIPE, so not sure why 3FL content doesn't go through PIPE for us?

Still confused :) Plus just saw 3FL is even listed under 'South Australia' here - www.pipenetworks.com/Pee...l#SouthAustralia

So can someone clear this up for me? Any company listed on www.pipenetworks.com/Pee...l#SouthAustralia is counted towards our local data if we download from any of there stuff?

Black Death writes...

Any company listed on www.pipenetworks.com/Pee...l#SouthAustralia is counted towards our local data if we download from any of there stuff?

No. Although all those companies peer with PIPE in SA it doesn't mean the traffic will necessarily go via PIPE. For example Westnet/3FL does not go via PIPE.

b52 writes...

I think Itunes is on akamai or something isn't it? So you'd run into the same problem that Internode (or any ISP) would have with trying to include that (Ips are so varies meaning you could download from any country).

We do it, in partnership with Apple.

iiNet customers can download anything from the Australian iTunes store (excluding podcasts) without it coming off their download quota.

iTunes content is served up via Akamai.

Other Akamai content does count towards our customers quota.

Danny writes...

Steam.

Yeah theres a way to make it download / update from internode servers

get a program called Tcpview (freeware)

when ur downloading off steam it shows which mirror its coming from just keep closing connection until its on internodes ;) did the the other day when my bro wanted to get TF2 4.2gb... all went to local :D

Sish writes...

What I'd like to see as local is youtube lol.

ME TO!! lol

au.youtube.com local would be nice!!

I'd hate to try and guess how many tb worth of data youtube manages.

b52 writes...

I'd hate to try and guess how many tb worth of data youtube manages.

Lol prob a few Petabyte or even a few Exabyte

lol

b52 writes...

I'd hate to try and guess how many tb worth of data youtube manages.

doesn't pipe help save money though?

someone want to convince youtube to use pipe when it can >.>

Regarding local data it would just be awsome for me if it was enabled on business accounts -_-

Mishca writes...

Regarding local data it would just be awsome for me if it was enabled on business accounts -_-

It would be awesome to me if they enabled it on account holders whose names started with "D".

Danny writes...

It would be awesome to me if they enabled it on account holders whose names started with "D".

Eh?

Adam Internet · AdamDirect Super

If you're referring to yourself by "account holders whose names started with d" then you already have it o_O?

Internode peers with Google... google owns youtube.. so its not impossible ... :-)

b52 writes...

I'd hate to try and guess how many tb worth of data youtube manages.

Something like 25 petabytes a month, 200terabytes a day.

More reason to put our download limits up (or remove them entirely) I say.

Actually.. rather than internet radio.. how about imap?