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User #16784 61 posts
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Guys,
I'm wonder if can have Fibre-optic broadband for home or do it depend on suburbs
What the cost start from 2mb to high and download limits?
Is it worth get one?
Cheers
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posted 2008-Mar-7, 2pm AEST
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User #40229 4249 posts
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It will cost a lot for installation.. and you have to make sure your nearby the Amcom fibre network. Keep in mind you'd have to subscribe to a business plan.. several hundred dollars a month.
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posted 2008-Mar-7, 9pm AEST
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User #196600 258 posts
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The main thing is - Fibre Optic is really a business grade product. It comes with service level agreements, account managers, etc. It is not geared to home users.
I think the minimum cost per month for unlimitted 2Mbps / 2Mbps fibre would be about $500, plus installation is very expensive. Bear in mind that you are unlikely to get the full 2Mbps, as I assume Amcom would have some sort of contention ratios.
Your best bet really is ADSL. Cheap, reasonably reliable, and faster than entry level fibre - at least in terms of burst speed.
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posted 2008-Mar-7, 10pm AEST
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User #76360 2678 posts
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You get full 2Mbps.
There is a contention ratio, but normally that would only bite if the links were saturated.
Cost is just under $500 a month I believe, but you will also wear the cost of:
Fibre run to house
Media converter
Which will be $1000's generally.
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posted 2008-Mar-8, 12am AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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sssputnik writes... Cost is just under $500 a month I believe, but you will also wear the cost of:
Fibre run to house
Media converter
Which will be $1000's generally.
Not if fibre runs down my side of the street, on the route from TUTT to Mirrabooka Police, and I have spare fibre converters from replacing dlink and smc with nice integrated fibre WICs :P Hmm...
Now to get it past the financial ball and chain{thwok}..., little lady{thwok}...., dearest wife{thwok}...
Maybe not.
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posted 2008-Mar-8, 1am AEST
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User #85372 301 posts
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Hello Cetbor,
At this stage the Amcom Fibre network is not available to connect at residential based premesis.
Regards,
- Matthew Murray
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posted 2008-Mar-8, 9am AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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Hrm we got 30mbps fibre with Amcom and its alot less than the $1000's per month....
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posted 2008-Mar-11, 4pm AEST
edited 2008-Mar-11, 4pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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obviously not 1:1
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posted 2008-Mar-11, 11pm AEST
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User #196600 258 posts
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Matthew Murray writes... At this stage the Amcom Fibre network is not available to connect at residential based premesis.
Hi Matthew,
Are we allowed to dream of when it is ;). From the tone of your post I doubt any time in the foreseeable future, but maybe oneday FTTH will be a reality...
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posted 2008-Mar-12, 6am AEST
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User #76360 2678 posts
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The $1000's referred to running fibre to a premises, not the actual cost.
What data allowance do you have? If it's similar to our plan, you would be paying multiple 1000's.
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posted 2008-Mar-12, 5pm AEST
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User #76360 2678 posts
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Fibre to a block of apartments/townhouses would be nice.
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posted 2008-Mar-12, 5pm AEST
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User #196600 258 posts
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sssputnik writes... Fibre to a block of apartments/townhouses would be nice.
And if the tenants agreed, the body corporate could maybe arrange something. Amcom POP in the basement, with a router owned by the Body Corp and Ethernet cabling to each unit.
Perhaps it could be do-able?
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posted 2008-Mar-12, 6pm AEST
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User #85372 301 posts
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Hello Stan,
1:1 at $500 per month, you would more then likely only get 2Mbit/s.
For a 1:1 100Mbit link dedicated you would be look at around $25k to $30k per month just for the internet bandwidth, this of course is dedicated 1:1. This would not include the cost of delivering the actual data to the required premesis.
More then likely you are on a Pay-As-You-Go plan - cost per GByte or on a oversubscribed 8:1 product.
Regards,
- Matthew Murray
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posted 2008-Mar-12, 10pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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sssputnik writes... Fibre to a block of apartments/townhouses would be nice.
What about fibre to the apartment/townhouse with a mini DSLAM?
Your copper run should be less that 100 metres so you should get fill speed on DSL2+.
Much cheaper installation/setup costs - uses existing copper in the building and no need to run cat 5/5e/6 from 'pop' to individual appartments.
Would use your standard ADSL 2+ router instead of having to buy a new device.
Any one live in a large apartment complex with has Amcom Fibre near by?
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 8am AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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Stan:
1) the Midland fibre wasn't quite that cheap
2) the POP location would have altered pricing
3) iiNet's Symantec servers (plural) trumps your Symantec box ;)
4) Amnet offered your boss fibre to his house. It still wasn't that cheap :P
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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FostWare writes... trumps your Symantec box
Dont you mean Barracuda?
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... Don't you mean Barracuda?
My mistake... forgot which one ended up being the main one :P
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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FostWare writes... iiNet's Symantec servers
I thought iiNet used IronPorts.
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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I never used the 100mbps link in Midland, I wasnt based in that office, but the other tech's loved the 100mbps link :P 600mb cd's in 1min 30sec they reackon.
I'd say the monthly cost is like $500 per month before any traffic.
All I can say, the 30mbps fibre feels about 100 times faster, and alot harder to saturate than the 4 x 24mbps naked dsl lines we had. The dsl was crap really compaired to the fibre.
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 9pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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Stan writes... Yep we host Barracuda, and alot of other stuff now too. Most of our really cool stuff is in Perth IX.
Dont you think you should be more careful about what you say in a public forum?
I would love to 'brag' about all the cool toys I have but am unable to give out confidential information which could possibly give an outsider knowledge of our network.
which boss? there's 3 (maybe 4) of them
I would say 4 - MF, SW, SC and TB.
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 9pm AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... Dont you think you should be more careful about what you say in a public forum?
not as if everyone can get into perth ix anyway....
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 10pm AEST
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User #140520 932 posts
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Stan writes... not as if everyone can get into perth ix anyway....
Physically it is not so easy. But giving information away is just as bad. Some one may know of a vulnerability in something you mention and take advantage of it.
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 10pm AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... Physically it is not so easy. But giving information away is just as bad. Some one may know of a vulnerability in something you mention and take advantage of it.
Fair enough. Point taken :)
ill edit said post :)
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 10pm AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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lol... another thing I'd forgotten about being upgraded... they used to use BrightMail...
As an aside, Michael Malone's spidey senses will be tingling, and I bet in 3 hours from this post we'll get confirmation :P
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 10pm AEST
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User #33004 286 posts
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Stan writes... not as if everyone can get into perth ix anyway....
hmmm 4 wheel drive.. up the footpath... hang a right. :).. or even a motorcycle along the bridge.. :)
Kels
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posted 2008-Mar-13, 11pm AEST
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User #9748 2445 posts
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Kels writes... hmmm 4 wheel drive.. up the footpath... hang a right. :).. or even a motorcycle along the bridge.. :)
Thought about this a bit, have we? ;)
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posted 2008-Mar-14, 12am AEST
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User #151169 695 posts
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Paul Dowling writes... Thought about this a bit, have we? ;)
Well, you need to know how other people would do it, don't you :D
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posted 2008-Mar-14, 3pm AEST
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User #189377 52 posts
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FormerBOFH writes...
I would say 4 - MF, SW, SC and TB.
Good old Accord | Crox.
I must say, it wasn't hard to identify where he was from.
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posted 2008-Mar-30, 8am AEST
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User #13988 5346 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... I would say 4 - MF, SW, SC and TB.
Don't forget JS, if he's still got a share after the merger. DNHGS writes... Good old Accord | Crox.
Indeed. There was only 1 company in Midland with a 100Mbit fibre link!
-B.
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posted 2008-Mar-30, 12pm AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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Bwahahahaa!!!
Perth is too small ^_^
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posted 2008-Mar-30, 1pm AEST
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User #189377 52 posts
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Brad Peczka writes... Don't forget JS, if he's still got a share after the merger.
I actually think this one was supposed to be a secret. Nice one, Brad!
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 3am AEST
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User #33004 286 posts
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DNHGS writes... I actually think this one was supposed to be a secret.
Secrets... IT industry in Perth.. uhuh.. yeah right. :)
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 11am AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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Who really cares if people know where you work....
Not as if there is only 5 employee's at Accord|Crox :P
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 1pm AEST
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User #189377 52 posts
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Kels writes... Secrets... IT industry in Perth.. uhuh.. yeah right. :)
I was always under the impression that John Sharp was a silent partner.
Oops.
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 2pm AEST
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User #189377 52 posts
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 2pm AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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DNHGS writes... .
Do you really want me to open my contacts and copy down every persons name just to prove a point? I really cant be stuffed :)
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posted 2008-Mar-31, 3pm AEST
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User #143183 48 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... But giving information away is just as bad.
Wow former Crox employee now Amcom what a perfect thread to pipe up in..
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posted 2008-Apr-2, 6pm AEST
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User #32253 237 posts
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FormerBOFH writes... I would love to 'brag' about all the cool toys I have but am unable to give out confidential information which could possibly give an outsider knowledge of our network.
Everyone knows what Amcom has, it's hardly insider information..
As Kelly said, the Perth IT/ISP community has -no- secrets. :)
Edit: Epic typo fail. :~
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posted 2008-Apr-2, 6pm AEST
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User #113707 5 posts
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FostWare writes...
Bwahahahaa!!!
Perth is too small ^_^Bwahahahaa!!!
Perth is too small ^_^
That's right it is Craig
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posted 2008-Jun-16, 11am AEST
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User #43367 967 posts
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Stencorp69 writes...
["Bwahahahaa!!!
Perth is too small ^_^
That's right it is Craig
time for the tin foil hat craig! your busted!!! Quick delete your WR account they'll be knocking on your door in a few minutes :)
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posted 2008-Jun-16, 1pm AEST
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User #189377 52 posts
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Stencorp69 writes...
That's right it is Craig
*cough* Hello, SW :)
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posted 2008-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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User #3569 524 posts
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Brad Peczka writes...
Don't forget JS, if he's still got a share after the merger.
Indeed. There was only 1 company in Midland with a 100Mbit fibre link!
-B.
Actually that's not true ;)
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posted 2008-Jun-16, 11pm AEST
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User #65299 455 posts
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Stan writes...
That's right it is Craig
time for the tin foil hat craig! your busted!!! Quick delete your WR account they'll be knocking on your door in a few minutes :)
My nick isn't that secret... I've had it since I was with OIS in '95, which AFAICR was the first company to be borg'd by iiNet back when they were using modems...
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posted 2008-Jun-17, 9am AEST
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User #13330 4872 posts
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FatMike writes...
It will cost a lot for installation
Haha yeah, they quoted $400,000 installation for one of the properties we manage.
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posted 2008-Jul-24, 10pm AEST
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