markd@Pennytel writes...

We have recently fixed the issues with our SMS Service
Looks like it still has issues forum-replies.cfm?t=771345&p=-1#bo­ ttom

richy rich writes...

the talk till ya drop promo splash is still there

Yes but if you log into your account, on the left pane you can't tick it any more!

richy rich writes...

as with Penny i could make 28cent call with no "privilege fee"

yea but that all the past now :P, i use the pennytel promo to call Vietnam mobile too, but now need to stick to GT 20c vietnam landline. Hope the promo was a little longer but greed will never end.

Cheers,

richy rich writes...

hhhmmm Gotalk is 68 cents for Vietnam mobile penny is 12cents!!

Shame I have to pay GT the $9.95 to have the privilege of 20cent calls to Vietnam landline,

-rebtel : 9.5 cents/m to VN or with bonus double recharge its mean 4.8cents/m landline or mobile
- Tpad : 7-10cents/m
-nonoh.net : 4.8 cents/m mobile

or mobile rate at Telediscount

AAAAA® writes...

rebtel : 9.5 cents/m to VN or with bonus double recharge its mean 4.8cents/m landline or mobile

had a play with rebel, (free 10 minute call) i presume i still pay for the first leg of the call to the 8807 XXXX number via my normal mobile billing (voda) ??

so that 10 min call just cost me vodafone`s mobile rates per min plus the flag fall??

just had a dumb attack..... of course i pay for that leg, it`s the other overseas leg thats the saving, pay for local rates but call at the reduced (rebtel) rates

zebra-dell writes...

Hope the promo was a little longer but greed will never end.

Are you suggesting that Pennytel is greedy?

Maybe you should change ISP to one that is less greedy and more suits your needs.

I think Pennytel rates in general are unbelievably cheap and the quality and reliablity are great (no, not perfect).

S,

sweetpea writes...

Are you suggesting that Pennytel is greedy?

i this it was toungue in cheek about himself (zebra) being greedy..

and ahh it was nearly 2:30 am when we were typing............

sweetpea writes...

Are you suggesting that Pennytel is greedy?

Come on .... surely zebra-dell is suggesting self greed.

The 28.88 cent mobile calls was a great choice, but the 10.5 cent timed is also a cool thing. Anywhere cheaper? ... I wouldn't think so.
(Maybe metal washers in the public phone box slot? ... Oh, that probably doesn't work these days)?

Go PT!!!

WireGuy writes...

I hope PennyTel can keep up the call quality and improve the sometimes woeful post-dial delay
I'd prefer the price to have remained unchanged and the standard of service improve

It has improved recently, hasn't it?
I mean, since the problems of a couple of months ago, don't PT users in general have very good quality now ... perhaps better than pre December?

markd@Pennytel writes...

Rate reduction for Australia mobile, now only 10.5c per minute!

What was the rate previously?

limeburner writes...

What was the rate previously?

Was 13 cents pm on Free Access Timed Plan and the Free Access Untimed Plan, and 12.78 cents pm on the Untimed Plan.

Here www.pennytel.com/call_plans_compare.html it currently says (in black) Australia Mobile 12.78c on the Untimed Plan ... that's now incorrect.

Rendog writes...

Excellent rates for mobile calls.

And the rest .........

simplesi writes...

almost $5

It would have been over $50 with Telstra.

ItsMeDale writes...

Here www.pennytel.com/call_plans_compare.html it currently says (in black) Australia Mobile 12.78c on the Untimed Plan ... that's now incorrect.

... as is the mobile rate on the Untimed Calls page
https://www.pennytel.com...?divId=untimed_1

... and the TTYD banner is still displaying on the home page
www.pennytel.com/images/banner_ttyd.jpg
www.pennytel.com/index.html

InternetGhost writes...

Anyone else having trouble?

No - I just tested a send to my Vodafone mobile and I received it about a minute later, and it also shows as 'Success' on the SMS history page.

Although, 2 SMS' I sent 9 days ago still show as 'Pending' even though I received them.

ItsMeDale writes...

It has improved recently, hasn't it?

Certainly there has been a huge improvement and there had to be, considering the threads late last year containing numerous people defecting to other VSPs.

I've been using PennyTel since 2005 and wish them every success, however things are not as consistently good as they once were. My major problem recently is variable and sometimes quite long post-dial delay. This may be a consequence of PennyTel's growth outstripping their facilities; I really don't know the cause but a post-dial delay greater than a few seconds is the same as no service to non-technical users. They just hang up and say that VoIP is unreliable.

In my experience with non-technical users, a short post-dial delay is just as important as a good quality connection. PennyTel need to remain focused on these core issues before wasting time and money on things like SMS which are available elsewhere.

InternetGhost writes...

linked 255 character SMS to my phone, but only got half the message.

Yep - I get only ~150 bytes, and no 2nd message.

Jeffrey O'Neill writes...

a recent reduction in the fee the mobile carriers can charge each other

Do you have a source for this? As you're likely aware, mobile termination is a declared service and mobile carriers are only obliged to negotiate wholesale prices somewhere near the ACCC "indicative price".

There aren't global step changes in price like there have been for retail PSTN (offset by Telstra's line rentals, of course). Moreover, retail mobile prices aren't regulated - so VSPs can charge whatever they like above the indicative price; eg MNF and engin 27c.

Apparently the ACCC determined that mobile termination should wholesale for 9c between July 07 and Dec 08. That doesn't seem to explain Pennytel's latest price drop.

Someone suggested that Pennytel is buying minutes in USD. But surely their international suppliers (if that's how it works) are ultimately paying Optus and Telstra in AUD, and they aren't in the business of making forex losses.

An interesting wrinkle is that lower mobile termination charges are favourable to Telstra, unless and until mobile undermines PSTN. PSTN termination wholesales for only 1c per minute... which by the way is IMO why VoIP can be obscenely profitable for VSPs who charge $10 access fees and 10c flat tariffs for calls to PSTN.

ItsMeDale writes...

(Maybe metal washers in the public phone box slot? ... Oh, that probably doesn't work these days)?

Hahah...not only does it probably no longer work, but as ive recently bought some washers from bunnings, about 20c sized ones, i can advise they are about 8c each..so if the phone booth was tricked into accepting washers, for a 1 min call id figure you would need at least 15 washers @ 8c = $1.20 worth of washers....

So yeah PT, just marginally cheaper! ;-)

Way to go PT !!

typhoonx writes...

PennyTel are up to something....

Wow I just noticed!

Fuzion writes...

Wow I just noticed!

I wonder if this new "Talk Till You Drop" Plan includes mobiles?

EDIT: Yep it does:

www.pennytel.com/call_pl...compare.html#38c

Only now it's 38.88c - Untimed :) :) :) :)

typhoonx writes...

I wonder if this new "Talk Till You Drop" Plan includes mobiles?

Looks like it. 38.88c untimed - includes Australian mobile if that's what you meant.

typhoonx writes...

Only now it's 38.88c - Untimed

Still excellent value for money considering the hours i spend calling mobile no's!

typhoonx writes...

I wonder if this new "Talk Till You Drop" Plan includes mobiles?

Australian mobiles, yes.

MrGeePee writes...

this new plan probably won't suit me, but it seems more than any other VSP you guys are always looking to make new plans, offer specials and provide better value to your customers.

+1

asiobob writes...

There's often times we conference people in to make a three way call and i believe that needs the multiple call feature enabled...

I think if it was enabled then people would abuse this exceptionally good deal.

asiobob writes...

There's often times we conference people in to make a three way call and i believe that needs the multiple call feature enabled...

3-way conference calls do not need the multiple call feature enabled.

forum-replies.cfm?t=858732#r3

not worth asking writes...

and then the big one - no multiple outgoing calls - the only plan to have this limitation. not happy about that pennytel.

Just noticed that one.. such a shame!

markd@Pennytel writes...

TALK TILL YOU DROP PLAN

Strange as it may seem, this new TTYD plan will probably mean I'll run down my credit, cancel my "Over 20 countries Untimed Plan" account and go and join the MyNetFone NeoSaver plan.

Why?, I hear you ask. Well, this post pretty well sums it up -
forum-replies.cfm?t=673937&p=2#r37 as the 50 free call countries list has not expanded as Jocelyn@PennyTel indicated it might. Three weeks ago we were told "we might have good news for you and all Thailand callers soon" and I've been waiting for an announcement but it appears it may not be coming now as the TTYD plan has been announced instead :((

Grumpy_Geoff writes...

join the MyNetFone NeoSaver plan.

we might have good news for you and all Thailand callers soon"

Well, you'll pay 10c untimed to Thailand on MNF on the Neosaver and 8c untimed on Pennytel TTYD. Both include Thai mobiles and both are $4.95 a month. You do get the 60 global calls on MNF though.

P.S. Callers to Indonesia should be excited - 8c untimed on TTYD to selected destinations.

I'm paying 20c untimed with $9.95 World Saver add-on with GoTalk...might have to let that part of the plan drop. We'll do some back to back comparisons on quality first though.

Chaosdog1 writes...

You do get the 60 global calls on MNF though.

Exactly my point. I dial very few local calls. My wife dials many Thai calls, so a lot (or all) will be included in the 60 global calls.

Soupy  writes...

So now all Pennytel plans have a $5/month fee?

No, I don't think so. Just if you want to access the new TTYD rates.

Soupy  writes...

So now all Pennytel plans have a $5/month fee?

Free Access Timed and Free Access Untimed have no monthly fees.
Untimed and Talk Till You Drop have $5/m

Chaosdog1 writes...

No, I don't think so. Just if you want to access the new TTYD rates.

aha, ok thanks.

not worth asking writes...

hmmm, looking at the plan compare page i notice that this new plan doesn't have the 50 free calls, fair enough.

No free 50 calls for the 'talk till you drop' plan. And $0 .3888 per call for Aus mobiles. Good for someone who calls mobiles a lot for long time but most of my calls are under 2-3 minutes.

sajib writes...

1) Is the plan swappable like if i make a short call of 1-2 min can i turned the untimed plan off and for long call turn on the talk till you drop plan for 38.88 cnt call??


The plan (it appears) is a free standing plan in its own right.

AAAAA® writes...

TTYD should be MINIMUM SPEND $5/ month , Not $5/month fee !

It is still good value for money for someone who makes lot of calls.

AAAAA® writes...

TTYD should be MINIMUM SPEND $5/ month , Not $5/month fee !

You don't like it, don't use it? Find a better untimed Australian mobile rate?
$5 per month fully justifies Australian mobile calls on there own, if it does'nt use the timed rate...If 10.5c per minute (per second billing) is too much...well...

I think this is an exceptional offer on PennyTels part - well done!!

I had a feeling they were bringing out a new plan by this statement:

markd@Pennytel writes...

Australia Mobile rate will be 10.5cents per minute* (per second billing)....

*Rate applicable to any plan where Australia mobile is TIMED.

Being there were no plan with mobile rates untimed - this seemed a little sus!?

Not that I would of been the only one thinking this...

Again, good work PennyTel very happy :) :) :) :)

typhoonx writes...

$5 per month fully justifies Australian mobile calls on there own

I may be mis-understanding what you are saying but the TTYD plan does not include austrlaian mobile phone calls. They are charged at 10.5 cents per minute.

klavo writes...

I may be mis-understanding what you are saying but the TTYD plan does not include austrlaian mobile phone calls. They are charged at 10.5 cents per minute.

Australian mobiles are now 38.88c untimed on the TTYD plan.

www.pennytel.com/call_pl...compare.html#38c

San writes...

am trying to upgrade to this plan from the profile page but there is no such option, do I have to create a new account?

Hi San,

You don't have to create a new account. Its on the profile page> change plan.

typhoonx writes...

Australian mobiles are now 38.88c untimed on the TTYD plan

Ahh yes so they are. I missed that one.

It is only good value if your calls are longer than 2 minutes 45 seconds. Then you have the addational $5/m overhead.

klavo writes...

longer than 2 minutes 45 seconds

I think you're a minute short :)

Grumpy_Geoff writes...

I think you're a minute short :)

Ahh yes. Sorry. 3.7 minutes

EDIT: 3 Minutes 42 Seconds

Frontier Psychiatrist writes...

Anyone know why I was charged $5 again to swap from the previous $5 a month plan? to the Talk Till You Drop plan?

:/

This is correct on upgrade. Monthly Billing cycle also resets to upgrade date.

klavo writes...

It is only good value if your calls are longer than 2 minutes 45 seconds.

Open a timed account and use the timed rate of 10.5c per minute.

Then you have the addational $5/m overhead.

It's not for everyone, but for the people who really loved the TTYD promotion, this will be a VERY small price to pay for the amount they will save.

typhoonx writes...

Open a timed account and use the timed rate of 10.5c per minute.

I want PennyTel to have an account that can compete with the goTalk $14.95 plan.

100 calls with PennyTel will be $38.88
100 calls with GoTalk will be $14.95 (up to 300 minutes, 5 hours)

EDIT: I'm refering to mobile only calls. Tha advantage of the GoTalk plan is that you have an addational 300 POTS calls on top of the 100 mobile calls.

klavo writes...

Tha advantage of the GoTalk plan is that you have an addational 300 POTS calls on top of the 100 mobile calls.

Actually, you have 600. 300 local & 300 STD.

AAAAA® writes...

TTYD should be MINIMUM SPEND $5/ month

So you keep saying, but that is not the plan.

klavo writes...

I want PennyTel to have an account that can compete with the goTalk $14.95 plan.

Why? Go to GT. If that plan is more than you need, go to PT. Horses for courses.

Jason_68 writes...

Go to GT

I am with GoTalk and use PennyTel as a backup but i want more competition. Produces cheaper calls for us consumers.

klavo writes...

I want PennyTel to have an account that can compete with the goTalk $14.95 plan.

Me too!

spunkarooney writes...

Me too!

If you like the GoTalk plan just get it. I have Pennytel, MNF, GoTalk & Sipme (although it's a long time since I used SIPme).

klavo writes...

I want PennyTel to have an account that can compete with the goTalk $14.95 plan.

Yeah but PennyTel is not limited to 5 hours and is only $5 per month.

100 calls with PennyTel will be $38.88
100 calls with GoTalk will be $14.95 (up to 300 minutes, 5 hours)

That works out to be 100 calls at 3 minutes each.

PennyTel:

Monthly fee: $5
25 mobile calls; 2 hours each: $9.72

Total 50 hours for $14.72

teabags1 writes...

Just a query if anyone knows on the AUS mobile rate 10.5 c pm or cap at 38.8c
Hi Teabags,

With the new Plan you can get AUS Mobile at 38.88cents and if you like to take the benfits of the per minute rate then you can take advantage of this on our other timed plan.

PennyTel Team

AAAAA® writes...

TTYD should be MINIMUM SPEND $5/ month , Not $5/month fee !

Thanks AAAAA for the suggestion,

Based on the numerous feedbacks, PennyTel's Management and Rate Analysis Team tried their very best to accomodate the numerous requests and suggestion that were put forward based on the Promo Plan.

The new plan was designed in such a manner that we would be able to satisfy the various requirements from our broad range of customers.

We have added a lot more destinations to both the 8cents and the 38.88cents category, while also lowering the rate for Australia Mobile to 10.5cents per minute billed in 1 second increment - if I am not mistaken then this can be considered as one of the cheapest rates currently available for Australia Mobile.

We also like to highlight that even after our benefits such as the 50 free calls etc, our per minute rates still tend to be one of the cheapest when compared to the current market.

We believe in what you see is what you pay and unlike other VSP's we do not tend to charge higher rates once the customers have used their monthly benefits.

All our Plans are here to stay for the benefits for our Customers

PennyTel Team

markd@Pennytel writes...

You don't have to create a new account. Its on the profile page> change plan.

Thanks I found it.

Also is it possible to add Swap Feature in this plan or can I create another account if I want to make a short call. But with that I reckon I wont be able to use Ani callback with both the accounts.

markd@Pennytel writes...

You don't have to create a new account. Its on the profile page> change plan.

Thanks I found it.

Also is it possible to add Swap Feature in this plan or can I create another account if I want to make a short call. But with that I reckon I wont be able to use Ani callback with both the accounts.

whoozle writes...

Because you get a DID with the new account?

But I have paid $5 . and if in old acc I got $1000 then now PT take all of my $1000 and I owe them another $1000 ??????

Aha88 writes...

Ah my acc : Pennytel Account Upgrade - 888xxxxxxx to 6128xxxxxxx
Why?

TTYD comes with a DID. You're Pennytel Number 888xxxxxxx has been upgraded to 6128xxxxxxx.

Please use the 6128xxxxxxx Pennytel number to make calls.

markd@Pennytel writes...

upgrading to TTYD plan requires $5 for the initial monthly fee.

TTYD comes with a DID. You're Pennytel Number 888xxxxxxx has been upgraded to 6128xxxxxxx.

Please use the 6128xxxxxxx Pennytel number to make calls.

but now my acc show i have -$12.37 . So How i could make a call ?

markd@Pennytel writes...

Please use the 6128xxxxxxx Pennytel number to make calls.

Hi mark

Reread the post - I think Aha88 is saying the account now shows a negative balance and calls are not possible.

'and I could not make any call'

Aha88 writes...

But I have paid $5 . and if in old acc I got $1000 then now PT take all of my $1000 and I owe them another $1000 ??????

I also have $12.73 in my account so it means its better to create a new account otherwise I will lose all my credit which I have in the account. Is it possible to add the same credit card in two different accounts.

Jocelyn@PennyTel writes...

We have added a lot more destinations to both the 8cents and the 38.88cents category, while also lowering the rate for Australia Mobile to 10.5cents per minute billed in 1 second increment - if I am not mistaken then this can be considered as one of the cheapest rates currently available for Australia Mobile.

Hi Jocelyn, Are you telling me that under the TTYD plan the calls are charged 10.5cents per minute billed in 1 second increment ? So if I make a call for 2 or 3 seconds (missed call) I will only be charged for the 2 or 3 seconds and not the 38.88 seconds? .... and a short 2 minute call is 21 cents?

Before on the 28,88 cents for untimed Aus mobile (trial TTYD plan) was available on the $10 deposit plan and the $5 included calls plan; now the call is only for the TTYD plan which carries a $5 charge (no calls included) and 38.88 cents. So, how can this be an improvement for the customers? Did the customers actually asked for this type of plan ??

SirRag writes...

Before on the 28,88 cents for untimed Aus mobile (trial TTYD plan) was available on the $10 deposit plan and the $5 included calls plan;

I dont remember any such plan existed, anyone else ?
TTYD was the only plan in which u could make calls for 28.8cents untimed as far as I remember.

San writes...

I also have $12.73 in my account so it means its better to create a new account otherwise I will lose all my credit which I have in the account. Is it possible to add the same credit card in two different accounts.

Hi San,

We found the error on your account and corrected it.

Thank you.

Pennytel Team

Edit:
This is for Aha888

markd@Pennytel wri