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Hi guys (girls?)

I've written a pretty complete (well I hope so) guide on how to set up TPG's IPTV with a router (a Linksys WRT54G) other than your modem, watch it over wireless ; use VLC and MythTV.

www.avenard.org/iptv

Thank you for reporting any inaccuracies (if any).

Comments are welcomed.
Quite keen on extra topics to be added (could open a section for different modems too)

If you like it or it's useful to you, thank you for giving me a big :D !

Thanks
Jean-Yves

Just something which may help for the wireless bit.

Basically I also have an Ultrawap (aka Edimax 7206apg) which doesn't appear to have the option for setting a multicast rate. How I had to fix it up was to force it to use "G-Only". This had the effect of moving the multicast rate to 6 (from memory) which solved the issue.

The same behaviour will be present in many wireless AP's (depending on how they handle multicast) and this may fix it where multicast options are not available.

Also might want to mention to people that it will not be as faultless over wireless as over cable due to it not being designed to handle the bursty packet loss associated with wireless.

Heya :-)

I wonder if you can simply change the Multicast Rate on an Netcomm NB9W and successfully watch IPTV over Wireless. I can't test it for another week or so as I don't have access to such a modem.

See:
www.netcomm.com.au/Suppo...68.1.1/index.htm

Although that modem has an antenna socket that isn't standard. It's own antenna doesn't fit on it properly, nor do others. Perhaps I just got a dodgy modem :-/

Cheers,
Tim.

3rd Iteration writes...

Basically I also have an Ultrawap (aka Edimax 7206apg) which doesn't appear to have the option for setting a multicast rate.

I just tried with two wireless access point I have here.

And you're right.
The default multicast rate in B/G mode is 2mbit/s
and in G-only it is 6mbit/s which is sufficient to watch IPTV.

There is still something I don't fully understand. If it's by default limited to 2mbit/s, why does it make wireless unusable once you're watching IPTV. It should only use 2mbit/s.

I will update my site with this.

jya writes...

If you like it or it's useful to you, thank you for giving me a big :D !

Thanks Jean, I too don't like watching iptv on the browser and prefer to watch it on VLC however I tried you method but I can't seem to get the screen comes up.

My version of VLC is 0.8.6d assume it is the latest version.

TIA.

Is there a way of getting IPTV to work on Xbox Media centre?

SpaceOne™ writes...

Thanks Jean, I too don't like watching iptv on the browser and prefer to watch it on VLC however I tried you method but I can't seem to get the screen comes up.

Are you doing so via wired or wireless? I'm doing it via wired (XP), but the only way I could get it to work is when all adapters in Network Connections, excluding my LAN connection, were disabled. Not sure if it'll work for you.

I think all channels excluding the Playboy TV Preview work for me. Would there be any reason for this?

stebie writes...

I think all channels excluding the Playboy TV Preview work for me. Would there be any reason for this?

playboy TV requires authentication. So it won't work directly in VLC. You need to authenticate using the IPTV web page , start watching the channel then switch to VLC.

You can only use one IPTV channel at a time on all machine. Can't watch channel 1 on a machine and say channel 2 on another unfortunately

jya writes...

Quite keen on extra topics to be added (could open a section for different modems too)

Great work - I see you have it working on a mac - perhaps a section of getting IGMP packets past the 10.5 apparently disabled firewall?

For us IPTV works nicely under 10.4 and xp pro - but on our "main" machine running 10.5 - nothing.

Cheers

SpaceOne™ writes...

Thanks Jean, I too don't like watching iptv on the browser and prefer to watch it on VLC however I tried you method but I can't seem to get the screen comes up.

And it works via the web page?
It should make no difference as the web page really is just using the VLC plugin.

I've tried under many conditions, it always worked for me.
Even watched IPTV via a ssh connection using VLC and the caca module, it's all in ASCII ! :) useless but fun to watch

Yes there is, i think XBMC can pick up VLC streams. Have a little google on it.

stebie writes...

I'm doing it via wired (XP)

Likewise.

I could get it to work is when all adapters in Network Connections, excluding my LAN connection, were disabled.

I don't know I'm willing to give it ago. Thanks.

jya writes...

And it works via the web page?

Yep it does work on the browser.

I've tried under many conditions, it always worked for me.

If the setting is correct then I'm very puzzle as why it doesn't work for me.

Are you using the same version of VLC as mine?

SpaceOne™ writes...

Are you using the same version of VLC as mine?

Yes.

The VLC plugin will open exactly the same URL as what you'll enter in VLC.
For example, to watch Al Jazeera , type the URL (selecting UDP/Multicast)
udp://@233.29.121.3

see how you go there.

SpaceOne™ writes...

Are you using the same version of VLC as mine?

I'm using VLC Portable 0.8.6c, so one version older than yours and it works (based on my findings above).

jya writes...

see how you go there.

Thanks, I've just try it again and unbelievably it works :-)

Dear Jean-Yves,
Thanks for your great work for the community. I suggest providing there full list of multicast addresses for IPTV channels so enthusiasts could configure 3rd party set-top boxes like TEAC, Amino, etc. I guess port numbers are still default - 1234
Kind regards,
Eugene

I've updated the site , mentioning the 802.11g only.

This didn't work with a billion 7302.

Would be good if people could report if it works with their wireless modem, and post the brand , the model # and what they did to make it work.

EugeneR writes...

suggest providing there full list of multicast addresses for IPTV channels

It's already there, in the MythTV section.

I can put it on a separate page.

will do that now.

Done

SpaceOne™ writes...

Thanks, I've just try it again and unbelievably it works :-)

With the direct URL or the playlist ?

I've found that sometimes it won't start automatically. What I do is press pause, wait 2-3s and press play again

I've updated the site with extra information about modems.

Also updated the various playlists as I've just noticed that TPG added 3 new TV channels:
Hindi Entertainment (Hindi)
Indian News (Multiple Languages)
Indian Sports (Hindi)

I didn't re-ordered all the channels like TPG did, but simply added them at the end of the existing list.

jya writes...

With the direct URL or the playlist ?

With playlist.

The only thing is that every time I open VLC I have to open the file TPG ( playlist that I've saved)

SpaceOne™ writes...

The only thing is that every time I open VLC I have to open the file TPG ( playlist that I've saved)

You can associate M3U files with VLC so all you need to double-click it and it'll automatically start playing. Right click the playlist file and go to 'Open With...' and select VLC. Here you can choose if VLC handles M3U files by default or not. If you choose yes, all you'll need to do now on is double-click the playlist file.

jya writes...

There is still something I don't fully understand. If it's by default limited to 2mbit/s, why does it make wireless unusable once you're watching IPTV. It should only use 2mbit/s.

Because the way that 802.11b/g works is that all multicast & crap goes at the base rate. Normally your multicast data that is going over your wireless network will not be exceeding 1mb, but in our case we are tryin to shove about 3mb of crap down a 1mb pipe. Forcing it to 6 gives it enough breathing room work.

I think the real killer is that all of the other wireless clients (or the AP namely) is basically spending all of its time locked at the base rate speed while its connection is flooded.

Anyone please correct me if I am mistaken.

For people with linksys WRT54G, the author of Tomato sent me a new firmware with the fixed IGMP proxy.
Available on the same page (direct link to the firmware binary) www.avenard.org/iptv

If anyone can help me get iptv working through a smoothwall firewall I will rename my first born after them!
Have tried on the smoothwall forum and just keep going in circles without any answer, I know the iptv works as I tried it without the firewall, but the firewall is soooo handy to limit kids downloads and content and surfing etc.....

Greg writes...

I will rename my first born after them!

if you don't have kids yet, why want to put smoothwall (no idea what that stuff is though)

IPTV uses multicast UDP packets on port 1234 and IGMP. See if you can add this in the list of authorised traffic.

Hi Greg,

If you're using Smoothwall as your PPPoE connection it won't work. PPPoE client has to work on the modem and you also have to consider disabling IGMP and Multicast filtering on the said firewall to ensure that there will be no conflict with the service. Thank you!

Regards.
Dan S

stebie writes...

You can associate M3U files with VLC so all you need to double-click it and it'll automatically start playing.

hmmm I guess that is the only way. Thanks.

Anyone can pinpoint me how to stream it to my PS3?

Hi Jya,

You have mentioned that IPTV playback quality in MythTV was quite poor and intermittent. We would like you to try using URL's of the form rtp://233.29.121.2:1234 (rtp not udp). Please email us at iptvsupport@tpg.com.au for your feedback. Thank you!

Regards,
Dan S

Well. The picture is better, no more green blocks or mpeg artifacts.
However, there is loss of sync between the sound and the picture (the sound is about 3s late)

There is pause in the video playback every 3s or so for a very short instant.

The sound also cuts out every 2-3s as well.

Using UDP, the picture was crap, however the sound was always perfect, no interruption and in sync with the video.

Is TPG also broadcasting with rtp now ?
I noticed that it works with VLC ; but I didn't try that before so not sure if it ever worked.

So a bit hard to see if it's better.
udp: crap video quality, good sound in sync
rtp: good video quality but with constant interruption, same for the sound.

Jean-Yves

Hi

Is there any other way to play/record IPTV stream? also is there a way to schedule the recording?

Thanks

Dan S (IPTV) writes...

If you're using Smoothwall as your PPPoE connection it won't work. PPPoE client has to work on the modem

Actually, it can work, it just requires significantly more effort :-) The trick is to assign the second PVC on the modem to a separate VLAN. Billion modems can do this.

forum-replies.cfm?t=932087

Hi,

We appreciate you creating that thread for other users. Rest assured that those helpful informations are being collated for future reference that will help other TPG customer. Thank you for your continued support!

Regards,
Dan S

m4k3r writes...

Actually, it can work, it just requires significantly more effort :-) The trick is to assign the second PVC on the modem to a separate VLAN

Very few modem will do this, most modems TPG sells have only one ethernet port so it definitely won't work.

I have updated my web page: www.avenard.org/iptv

The good news is that MythTV now works with TPG's IPTV from SVN revision #16460 in both the trunk version and the 0.21-fixes branch.

So I can finally enjoy watching IPTV on my big 110" screen and record a program.
Now all TPG needs to do is provide a complete program listing in xmltv form.

For Mac user, I have also put a binary for MythFrontend for Intel mac running Leopard (10.5) which contains the fix to watch IPTV smoothly.

Jean-Yves

Did some testing of iptv over wireless with my RTA1025W.

with 802.11g 38mb, and 12mb multicast it still doesn't display well, going blocky when scenes and background changes in video.

Geoff R writes...

Did some testing of iptv over wireless with my RTA1025W.

The few people who tried with a RTA1025 mentioned that it worked very well over wireless for them.

Now I use MythTV anyway, streaming over wireless from the myth backend server is the best approach: I can rewind, record etc from my laptop

I"ve got a buffalo router running tomato 1.17, I thought i'd try to 1/2 bridge my speedtouch 536V5 through the router.

Where exactly is this IGMP PROXY option to turn on, under what menu?

This may be of interest.
I have just received a reply from TP-LINK TECHNOLOGIES CO., LTD.
asking for help configuring their ADSL modem/router for IPTV,

cjtech.dyndns.org/ftp/TL-LINK-IPTV.doc

I hope this helps
CJTECH

I can't get this to work with the NB9W on 54 and its still laggie lol.

Hi Cjt001,

Can you please confirm the result of this documentation? Did IPTV worked after following the said settings? Thank you!

Regards,
Dan S

Anyone wanting to get IPTV over a wireless connection, here is a compromise workaround. It's not ideal and has limitations but it's better than nothing.

Problem:
- Most wireless equipment from AP and clients are unable to accept and process multicast UDP packets at a fast enough rate causing viewing of IPTV over wireless to be choppy, delayed or simply unplayable.

My Solution:
- Use VLC to re-broadcast the multicast UDP packets as unicast UDP so that wireless clients are able to watch IPTV without glitches.
- This should work with ALL wireless equipment from 11b upwards.

Requirements:
- You are already able to watch IPTV using a PC connected by cabled ethernet and that machine must remained connected via cable.
- Your wireless signal is sufficient to support an IPTV stream. You need around 4-6 mbps.

Pros:
- It works! You can watch IPTV as though you were connected via cabled ethernet.
- No additional software is required. Just VLC.
- No need to transcode the stream, so lower CPU requirements.
- No messing around with router configuration settings so its more user friendly.

Cons:
- See requirements.
- Changing channels is a pain. You need to do it via a browser after enabling the VLC web interface.
- You need to know the IP of the machine you want to stream too.

HowTo (Windows only):
- Firstly you need to get be able to open IPTV directly from within VLC. This is achieved by opening channels using their UDP address as provided by TPG. See here for more details www.tpg.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2194.
- The addresses you need are similar to udp://@233.29.121.2 etc. You can use either the playlist TimMc has provided or open the addresses manually yourself, it's your choice. I will show the manual address way.
- On the cabled machine (server) start VLC and choose
File
Open Network Stream
Select UDP/RTP Multicast
Type in the IP of the channel you want. Eg 233.29.121.2
Tick Stream/Save.
Click Settings
Tick UDP
In the address field, type in the IP of wireless machine. Eg 192.168.1.X
Click OK
And Again OK
- VLC should now be broadcasting the IPTV to your wireless machine. To confirm, check:
View
Stream and Media Info
Click the Statistics tab
Streaming box is showing packets being sent
- Goto your wireless machine (client) and start VLC. Choose File, Open Network Stream, leave everything as default and Click OK.
- If everything worked, your wireless machine should now be playing the IPTV stream as though it was connected to your router via cabled ethernet.

Tips/Troubleshooting:
- To find the IP of your wireless machine, use the IPCONFIG command on the box itself.
- If you want to watch the IPTV on the server whilst streaming, simply tick the Play Locally in the stream settings.
- You can send IPTV to multiple machines wirelessly simulatenously by using multiple unicast UDP addresses. Obviously they will all display the same channel. I haven't tried this yet, but it doesn't seem too difficult.

In my case, I was able to watch IPTV on my laptop wirelessly and was quite happy with the resulting quality. I haven't had a chance to play with the web interface for changing channels as yet. Next on my list is to watch IPTV wirelessly on my xbox using XBMC, connected via 2 routers and WDS.

Obs writes...

Next on my list is to watch IPTV wirelessly on my xbox using XBMC, connected via 2 routers and WDS.

Would like to report that I have successfully streamed IPTV to XBMC using 2 routers connected via WDS. XBMC didn't play the stream by default. I was getting audio but no video so it looks like a codec problem. This was quickly solved by transcoding the stream in VLC. In VLC streaming options, enable transcoding and set the video to mp2v. To open a udp stream in XBMC, create a file (eg video.strm) and put this into it "udp://:1234" without the quotes. To start the stream, simply open the video.strm in XBMC.

I read your post...
"- This should work with ALL wireless equipment from 11b upwards.
Requirements:
- You are already able to watch IPTV using a PC connected by cabled ethernet and that machine must remained connected via cable."

I would like to try your metod but my problem is that my modem(NB1)has one output,which is connected to wireless router's input and the PC is connected to its output..In that case I can't get IPTV working behind router,it hasn't multicast capability...IPTV/VLC does work only direktly(modem/PC)

Anyone have the channel list urls for all the channels?

Prefer to watch the channels on VLC.

hey anyone successfully stream iptv over wireless using Dynalink 1025w?

i tried all setting on multicast and combination setting between multicast and transmission rate and it still show up very blocky.

any ideas??

thanks

BigMan writes...

and it still show up very blocky.

it will always look a bit crappy on 802.11g I'm afraid. The point is that you *can* somehow watch it over wireless without putting your network to a halt.

for the dynalink 1025w all you have to do is force the wireless to 802.11g only

Has anyone managed to get this working through a netgear wgr614 router as of yet?

Or do it's specs prevent this from being possible

Netgears don't support Multiple PVC's and IGMP, i doubt that it'll work mate.

cheers

^ no dramas, thanks for the reply :)

jya writes...

for the dynalink 1025w all you have to do is force the wireless to 802.11g only

Not working =(

Edit: Scratch that. I found it was my anti-virus (Kaspersky). It's allowing Firefox connections though... do you know what the problem could be? Works fine when Kaspersky is disabled.

Edit edit: Lol. I fixed it, don't worry.

Obs,I tried your description,but no success...
When I follow:
File
Open Network Stream
Select UDP/RTP Multicast
Type in the IP of the channel you want. Eg 233.29.121.2
Tick Stream/Save.
Click Settings
Tick UDP
In the address field, type in the IP of wireless machine. Eg 192.168.1.X

When I clik "Settings" it opens "Streem output" and there is no UDP to tick it.There is HTTP,MMSH,RTP...but no UDP
There are ports as well,which one to put in?

Any idea what to do?

streem writes...

When I clik "Settings" it opens "Streem output" and there is no UDP to tick it.There is HTTP,MMSH,RTP...but no UDP
There are ports as well,which one to put in?

Try updating your version of VLC. I'm running via WinXP, mayve your OS version doesn't support streaming via UDP. If it doesn't try rtp instead. Also you can leave the default port of 1234 as is. If you have a firewall enabled, make sure you open up that port or disable your software firewall.

Obs writes...

- Goto your wireless machine (client) and start VLC. Choose File, Open Network Stream, leave everything as default and Click OK.
- If everything worked, your wireless machine should now be playing the IPTV stream as though it was connected to your router via cabled ethernet.

I have tried this method, what happens is the wireless machine can hear the audio but gets no picture. Which is quite odd. The audio is also choppy. I'm using Billion 7402W I guess its old hardware not having enough processing power to do this? running on Wireless B

Obs writes...

Try updating your version of VLC. I'm running via WinXP, mayve your OS version doesn't support streaming via UDP. If it doesn't try rtp instead. Also you can leave the default port of 1234 as is. If you have a firewall enabled, make sure you open up that port or disable your software firewall.
My VLC is the latest and I use WinXP as well.When I ticked RTP I already got packets sent but on the wireless connected PC there is nothing received when I open VLC/Open Network Streem/OK

Neonlight writes...

I have tried this method, what happens is the wireless machine can hear the audio but gets no picture. Which is quite odd. The audio is also choppy. I'm using Billion 7402W I guess its old hardware not having enough processing power to do this? running on Wireless B

Wireless B 'should' be enough for IPTV but if you're getting audio and no video, it could be a codec problem? Check to make sure you are getting at least the 11mbps that B offers.

streem writes...

My VLC is the latest and I use WinXP as well.When I ticked RTP I already got packets sent but on the wireless connected PC there is nothing received when I open VLC/Open Network Streem/OK

I think this is related to a firewall issue somewhere. Check to make sure you haven't got any software firewalls or open up port 1234. Check your virus scanner as often they come with firewalls too. It's odd that you don't see UDP as one of the streaming options though.

iSiga writes...

I"ve got a buffalo router running tomato 1.17, I thought i'd try to 1/2 bridge my speedtouch 536V5 through the router.

Where exactly is this IGMP PROXY option to turn on, under what menu in the tomato menu?

Anyone know?

iSiga writes...

Anyone know?

Go into Advanced -> Firewall -> Check allow multicast

this will automatically start the igmp proxy

streem writes...

When I ticked RTP I already got packets sent

do not use rtp with VLC, it has to be UDP on port 1234.

usually, not receiving the igmp data is due to a firewall issue, PVC not properly configured on the modem, or not igmp proxy running on the modem/router

Obs writes...

Wireless B 'should' be enough for IPTV

in theory maybe, but in practice that's definitely not the case.

802.11b is 5.5mbit/s one way at best, plus lag

jya writes...

do not use rtp with VLC, it has to be UDP on port 1234.
usually, not receiving the igmp data is due to a firewall issue, PVC not properly configured on the modem, or not igmp proxy running on the modem/router

Both my PC have AVG free edition antivirus and it seems AVG Free has not firewall and couldn't be disabled...I disabled Windows firewalls but no success.
I'll try to make screenshot to see there is not UDP.
images25.snimka.bg/005665713.jpg
Let me know if the link is not accessible or the image is not so clear.

streem writes...

I'll try to make screenshot to see there is not UDP.

Why are you in the stream output bit?

There is UDP if you look in the open network (look in your screen capture, I can see UDP/RTP/Multicast.

streem writes...

I'll try to make screenshot to see there is not UDP.
images25.snimka.bg/005665713.jpg
Let me know if the link is not accessible or the image is not so clear.

Your stream settings windows has been shrunk. Maximise the window or drag its edge. You can see that rtp is already only showing half its textbox.

jya writes...

Why are you in the stream output bit?

There is UDP if you look in the open network (look in your screen capture, I can see UDP/RTP/Multicast.

I followed your instructions:
"- On the cabled machine (server) start VLC and choose
File
Open Network Stream
Select UDP/RTP Multicast
Type in the IP of the channel you want. Eg 233.29.121.2
Tick Stream/Save.
Click Settings
Tick UDP
In the address field, type in the IP of wireless machine. Eg 192.168.1.X
Click OK
And Again OK
- VLC should now be broadcasting the IPTV to your wireless machine."

After I reach:

"Tick Stream/Save.
Click Settings
Tick UDP"

and after I click Settings,I get the streem output window which you mention (You ask Why are you in the stream output bit)
Then Tick UDP-here is no UDP even if I expand the window,the last one is RTR.
Please recheck the instructions again if everythink is correct described.(for the receiving PC as well)

streem writes...

I followed your instructions:

They aren't mine ... it works fine on my network without having to go through the hassle of using a VLC server

streem writes...

Then Tick UDP-here is no UDP even if I expand the window,the last one is RTR.
Please recheck the instructions again if everythink is correct described.(for the receiving PC as well)

Streem, if you are having issues with using the VLC server, try watching IPTV directly with your wireless connection.

To everyone else, can someone please confirm that the UDP setting appears for them in the stream settings window? On all the VLC machines I have, there is UDP option in the stream settings.

I got it working, but it seems my connection is not fast enough. The pictures don't come up properly and the sound is cutting off all the time.

My sync speed is at least 8000/1000 (ADSL2+), isn't my connection fast enough? Or coult it be my computer? I tried it on a Powerbook G4.

BiKuTa writes...

I got it working, but it seems my connection is not fast enough. The pictures don't come up properly and the sound is cutting off all the time.

My sync speed is at least 8000/1000 (ADSL2+), isn't my connection fast enough? Or coult it be my computer? I tried it on a Powerbook G4.

Your sync speed looks fine to me. What happens when you run it directly using a cable connection to your router?

BiKuTa writes...

The pictures don't come up properly and the sound is cutting off all the time.

that happens over wireless 802.11g unfortunately.
I even have those issues with 802.11n (300mbit/s)

Now what I do is use the mythtv server. The mythtv server (backend) connects to IPTV and I use the mythtv client (frontend) on my mac to watch IPTV, it's perfect, even on 802.11g.

Obs writes...

Streem, if you are having issues with using the VLC server, try watching IPTV directly with your wireless connection.

I've tryed directly but no picture,no sound...There is just"Waiting for streem..."
I use wireless router Belkin which is 802.11g.After I read other posts I consider to give up.Obviously the router is not proper for that purpоse.Even if I manage to get IPTV working the quality will be very poor.

did you set up the 2nd PVC as describe here?
/forum-replies-archive.cfm/867642.html

Obs writes...

Your sync speed looks fine to me. What happens when you run it directly using a cable connection to your router?

I haven't tried wireless, that's what I get when using direct cable connection to the router.

got iptv workign EVENTUALLY with draytek 2700 - perfect quality and sound tho now :DDDD

had to set up multi PVC - AS WELL as check the option to forward icmp to specific lan ports, there is a whole tab for it that i havent seen previously for months! also had to move to port 3 on router - 1 and 2 were reserved for nat use only

Ah I think I've fixed it!
I had to turn on IGMP snooping on my router (RTA1025W)

At least the sound is much better now, the video is still struggling at times.

jya writes...

id you set up the 2nd PVC as describe here?
/forum-replies-archive.cfm/867642.html

My router is completely different-F5D7230-4

streem writes...

My router is completely different-F5D7230-4

it doesn't exclude that you *must* set a 2nd PVC. If you can't set a 2nd PVC then your modem isn't compatible with IPTV

--Fibonacci-- writes...

also had to move to port 3 on router - 1 and 2 were reserved for nat use only

This is weird with Draytek. On my 2820Vn I can't get IPTV on physical LAN port 1, which also happens to be the only 1Gb port- other 3 are 100Mb.
Moved the connection to physical port 2 and IPTV works fine. My firmware also tells me that ports 1 & 2 are reserved for NAT use only, but something doesn't gel in all of that. If P2 is also reserved for NAT use, why can I get a PVC session on it and not on P1? I haven't done anything with ICMP or port forwarding yet. My gut feeling is that it has more to do with the speed of the port and some aspect of the protocol that is not obvious to the technically untrained.
Seems an odd way to build a router.

Edit.
Just checked my router firmware again. It doesn't say that Ports 1 & 2 are reserved, but Channels 1&2 are reserved for NAT/Router use, and that P1 is also reserved for NAT/Router use. So that explains why I can connect on physical port 2.
Even so, it still seems a strange way to build a router.

jya writes...

it doesn't exclude that you *must* set a 2nd PVC. If you can't set a 2nd PVC then your modem isn't compatible with IPTV

My modem(NB1) is separate from the wireless router(Belkin F5D7230-4)
In the router settings -no PVC
In the modem settings:Setup/IPTV -there is PVC settings but they are no active(couldn't changed)

streem writes...

In the modem settings:Setup/IPTV -there is PVC settings but they are no active(couldn't changed)

then don't wonder or ask why you aren't getting IPTV if you don't even follow the various instructions provided here or TPG web site

Has anyone had any luck with the NB9W over wireless?

must u really use vlc to watch tpg's iptv???

Anyone using a Dynalink RTA1025W wireless connection and had any luck? Mine is struggling with choppy video and sound..(using VLC)
Any help appreciated

Live Stronger 5.0 writes...

must u really use vlc to watch tpg's iptv???

Any client supporting RTP h264 video stream.
VLC is one.
MythTV is another

I don't know why mine isn't working too well at all. I set it up for IPTV over wireless, using Tomato 1.19 (your website doesn't have any firmware available). Followed all the instructions, and set the multicast rate to 9mbps, but it only displays like 30% of the picture and some sound.

Any assistance?

Tuffie writes...

(your website doesn't have any firmware available)

I've removed the direct download as it's now available directly on the tomato website (polarcloud) and they have fixed the original problem.

How many machines do you have using wireless? each time you add a machine, it reduces the amount of bandwidth available.
ideally you only want one.

IPTV doesn't work well over 802.11g in the best case. 802.11N works okay

Tested with 1 client, still no luck.

Hey jya, would like to thank you for the effort you put into this..maybe someday i'll get Myth TV working..but for now i want to try VLC.
www.avenard.org/iptv/VLC.html

Open VLC, go into the File menu and select “Open Network” or “Open Network Stream”.
Check HTTP and enter the URL
avenard.org/iptv/playlist-tpg-vlc.m3u

Yeah that works but how do i change channel? Wheres the user interface :/
Is it possible to setup VLC to look something like this: www.avenard.org/iptv/VLC...oppedImage_2.jpg

On another note, could you check out this thread for me:
www.networkedmediatank.c...2426&start=0
Just wanting to check with you whether Popcorn Hour specification will allow TPG IPTV.

davidw89 writes...

Yeah that works but how do i change channel? Wheres the user interface :/

Go to the View menu, then click Playlist. That's where all the channels are :-)

Just got a newsletter:

We have recently added one of the Chinese channels to all our limited-IPTV exchanges. We now have 7 channels in total at exchanges with limited IPTV access. TPG offers 34 IPTV channels in total. For more information or to find out what channels are available at your exchange, visit www.tpg.com.au/iptv.

TPG IPTV (Internet Protocol Television) allows you to watch selected TV channels via your PC or Notebook which are delivered to you through your TPG ADSL2+ connection, without the need to purchase additional expensive equipment - most ADSL2+ modems are compatible for IPTV.

But i can't find the one extra Chinese channels? What about your guys. I can only see 33 channels.

jya writes...

If you like it or it's useful to you, thank you for giving me a big :D !

oo thanks dude.. i finally got iptv working over wireless (7401vgp)

bamboo writes...

i finally got iptv working over wireless (7401vgp)

how did you do it?
never managed to get iptv working over wireless with billion

davidw89 writes...

But i can't find the one extra Chinese channels?

There are 7 Chinese channels:
Phoenix Info News and the 6 Chinese TV channels

jya writes...

how did you do it?

never managed to get iptv working over wireless with billion

it's not the modem you have to set.. it's the laptop that needs to be set...

i got a dell laptop with built in wifi and an old acer laptop that i have to plug in a wireless card.. there's corresponding software for wifi for both laptop... i'm using intel® proset with the dell (don't know if u've heard of it), under advance --> transmit power --> ramp it up to maximum

and iptv just works just as if it was on ethernet

bamboo writes...

it's not the modem you have to set.. it's the laptop that needs to be set...

What you describe only deals with the power transmission. Nothing to do with the multicast rate being too slow by default to carry an IPTV stream.

Jacking up the power or not isn't what would make you be able to receive IPTV over wireless

. i'm using intel® proset with the dell (don't know if u've heard of it)
it comes with pretty much all business Dell laptop..

jya writes...

What you describe only deals with the power transmission. Nothing to do with the multicast rate being too slow by default to carry an IPTV stream.

do i care? it works! that's all that matters

bamboo writes...

do i care? it works! that's all that matters

well, I care. Cause I want to be able to document what has been done so other can do it too.
So far, I've never read of anyone who managed to watch IPTV over wireless with a billion, and I personally tried with two different model:
7404VGOM and 7402VGP
no luck over wireless

jya writes...

So far, I've never read of anyone who managed to watch IPTV over wireless with a billion, and I personally tried with two different model:

well maybe i'm the first.. instead of doubting me, why don't u just try it

bamboo writes...

instead of doubting me, why don't u just try it

I don't doubt that it works for you.
But I know that changing the transmission power on the laptop isn't going to make a difference.
it's not the reason why it doesn't work in the first place.

You must have done something else to get it to work, and that's what I'm after

jya, my advice is to document bamboo's findings as an unconfirmed solution and/or test it yourself to see if it makes a difference. If it works for others and not you, it'd be unfortunate. No harm in suggesting it; it seems it's a relatively easy setting to change and revert back if required.

stebie writes...

it seems it's a relatively easy setting to change and revert back if required.

Not many wifi drivers on a PC let you change the power settings unfortunately...

jya writes...

You must have done something else to get it to work, and that's what I'm after

sorry my mistake... i've just been fiddling with my laptop to find out what it is that's different

i fiddled with transmit power – no difference
i fiddled with power management – when i set it to its default value (somewhere in the middle) i can't watch iptv; i.e choppy and unwatchable, when i put it to maximum, perfect iptv

what program do i need to screen capture what i'm doing in real time?

I've got Tomato firmware setup on my WRT54GL with access to my modem web UI (TP-Link 8810). I'm completely stuck on setting up IPTV as I've heard that my modem isn't applicable in the current configuration? I've heard that it would work if I put my modem in half-bridge modem, can anyone instruct me on how to do that?

The IP addresses are:

Modem: 192.168.1.100
Router: 192.168.1.1

Thanks.

xclocked writes...

can anyone instruct me on how to do that?

Yes, read the web page I posted in my first post ..

I have, doesn't tell me how to put my modem in half-bridge mode, kind of confusing.

xclocked writes...

I have, doesn't tell me how to put my modem in half-bridge mode, kind of confusing.

yes it does.
You obviously didn't bother reading it.
"Modem Setup + External router" pretty much at the top.

Maybe I'm the second. I've had mine working for quite a while now. I did have an issue for a while but found out that it was a Vista Firewall issue.

It is a 7402-GM and was setup using the setting found for other modems and just put in the right place.

Something which I thought worthwhile posting, or re-posting is the channel links and the link for the EPG for the TPG IPTV channels:-

http://www.avenard.org/iptv/EPG.html

And the EPG is GUI format:-

http://www.avenard.org/iptv/epg/

Brilliant Stuff, especially the XMLTV data.

Hi guys,

I've been trying to get IPTV working for months on my setup. Am beginning to think maybe my Router doesn't support it, although from the requirements listed around i'd think it should.

Anyone know if the Linksys WAG54GP2 works with IPTV or not?

Any help appreciated, Thanks :)

David-AU writes...

Maybe I'm the second. I've had mine working for quite a while now

over wireless ?