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User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Time for a what's coming soon thread again. 802.11n? Gigabit switch? Better VOIP features? Built in torrent client? Otherstuff, does anyone know when the next wave of modems will come through, it's gone a little stagnant. (I wouldn't mind a new modem but I don't _NEED_ one, a good excuse to get one would be nice though) P.S yeah I did post this about 6 months back, I figure surely some movement soon by now?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-27, 11pm AEST
User #66051 2983 posts ascii Whirlpool Forums Addict	Some modems have file and print servers built in these days too. Hardware-wise that just means a USB port, but software-wise probably a bit of work. I guess the modem is gradually morphing in to a small home server.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-27, 11pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Yeah good point, my Minitar WAP has a print server in it, it's so damned handy. I didn't realise I needed one till I got it.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 12am AEST
User #8974 4312 posts Soupy� Whirlpool Forums Addict	Hopefully it'll have wireless that works properly.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 12am AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	Soupy� writes... Hopefully it'll have wireless that works properly. Works just fine now	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 12am AEST
User #20350 2786 posts Ray Warren Whirlpool Forums Addict	ascii writes... print server Yes that would a nice feature for the Billion.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 12am AEST
User #32192 13813 posts Ken Richards. Whirlpool Forums Addict	A print server would be an excellent addition to something like the Billion.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 12am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Anyone else have any other suggestions?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 4am AEST
User #28146 4105 posts pointblank Whirlpool Forums Addict	I would like to use the router as NTP server. My 7402R2 already sync itself automatically with an NTP server, so why not offer the functionality for the LAN to sync with the router.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 7am AEST
User #101668 164 posts gunna64 Forum Regular	Print server with mulitfunction printer support ..... yes please!	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 10am AEST
User #66051 2983 posts ascii Whirlpool Forums Addict	I would like to be able to add LAN hostnames to the modem's DNS.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 10am AEST
User #98796 126 posts edcdeee Forum Regular	I would like to be able to receive two VoIP calls simultaneously.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 2pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	NTP server would be nice definately, I'd also like to see better DNS caching routines.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 3pm AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	edcdeee writes... I would like to be able to receive two VoIP calls simultaneously. Hi You can currently receive 2 concurrent VOIP calls via up to 10 providers, as well as 1 PSTN. Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 4pm AEST
User #138505 81 posts tmc108 Forum Regular	This is just a wish list. How dose this answer the the question when is the next billion coming out.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 4pm AEST
User #50634 1324 posts Xtrapol8 Whirlpool Enthusiast	Scott L writes... Gigabit switch? Hell yeah! ... I know at least on other brand that has this.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 5pm AEST
User #20708 125 posts haz Forum Regular	Without being too negative, the 74xx firmware is still a pretty big mess, and was much worse on release. Do we really want Billion to try and add even more functionality into their routers when the basics don't work properly? I would much rather see them concentrate on improving the firmware for the current product line - I'm not sure I'd buy another Billion after my experience with this generation of their products. That said, nearly every other brand I've tried has been just as bad if not worse (Netgear, D-link, Netcomm). It seems all but impossible to get quality consumer-grade networking kit.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 7pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-28, 7pm AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	haz writes... Without being too negative, the 74xx firmware is still a pretty big mess, and was much worse on release Maybe you had a bad experience but this is certainly not the experience of the vast majority of users. forum-replies.cfm?t=819978 If you still have any issues please whim me & i'll look into it. Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Oct-28, 7pm AEST
User #16101 14294 posts Paul Warren Warcom Merchant	Billion should make a modem that comes with built in 16gb flash card or something. That would be funky! Nice little document server.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 10am AEST
User #5763 2153 posts Chuna PC Range Merchant	Actually it will be a good idea to use this thread as a wish list for the next upcoming Billions so we can take all the good ideas as Billion has started to work on the next generation units which should hopefully see the day of light sometime next year. So keep the ideas coming.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 10am AEST
User #42702 2224 posts Jason.G JMG Technology Merchant	Router Features -------------------- * Gigabit Switch * Wireless N (when its finally made a standard) Voip Features ----------------- * PSTN to VoIP gateway (ie dial in over PSTN get VoIP dial tone out) * VoIP to PSTN gateway (ie dial in via VoIP get local PSTN dial tone out) * IVR (voice menu) * Auto answer/Attendant * Voice mail (ie flash card, or in-built flash chip) for VoIP and PSTN.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 11am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	tmc108 writes... How dose this answer the the question when is the next billion coming out Hopefully someone comes along with an answer.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	Scott L writes... Hopefully someone comes along with an answer. Hi Scott As per previous response, Billion have started work on the next generation of routers, there is currently no timeframe for release, please add your suggestions so that they may be considered for inclusion. Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST
User #42702 2224 posts Jason.G JMG Technology Merchant	Scott L writes... Hopefully someone comes along with an answer. Chuna said Billion are starting work on the next gen ones soon/now. Obviously a lot of the modem hardware/firmware could be similar but all the extras will require some significant development and testing. Edit: Beaten by Mr Q. :-)	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST
User #85752 2318 posts amts Whirlpool Forums Addict	Ability to select either or both FXS ports to ring for an incoming PSTN and VoIP call.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST
User #14210 1737 posts what's up skip Whirlpool Enthusiast	Paul Warren writes... Billion should make a modem that comes with built in 16gb flash card or something. This is a really bad idea. Flash memory drops so fast in price that you would end up with problems with stock and pricing. It is far better to a USB storage option that allows you to add one or two USB devices that can act as a NAS (network attached storage).	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 2pm AEST
User #14210 1737 posts what's up skip Whirlpool Enthusiast	Jason.G writes... Voip Features ----------------- * PSTN to VoIP gateway (ie dial in over PSTN get VoIP dial tone out) * VoIP to PSTN gateway (ie dial in via VoIP get local PSTN dial tone out) * IVR (voice menu) * Auto answer/Attendant * Voice mail (ie flash card, or in-built flash chip) for VoIP and PSTN. Sounds like you want an Asterisk box. In some respects this would be great, but complexity of working with something like this would be great. Support cost would be significant. * PSTN to VoIP gateway so that call could be routed into an Asterisk box.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 3pm AEST
User #70765 845 posts JayJay Whirlpool Enthusiast	- A case with better ventilation for Australian summers - power supply needs to better filter out abnormalities on the power feed - On poor phone lines being able to hold synch better. - better testing of firmware before the product is released	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 3pm AEST
User #14210 1737 posts what's up skip Whirlpool Enthusiast	If you put in a Gigabit switch, how many ports? I have a fully populated 8 port Gigabit switch connected to my 7402VGP. I think ten ports is going to be more than most people want. With a print server, do they support multifunction devices or would you have to unplug them and connect directly to a PC to use the scanner? If you are going to put in a torrent client, how about FTP server and client to work with the USB storage. USB storage is a bit slow, how about a BYO SATA HDD that becomes a NAS.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 3pm AEST
User #42702 2224 posts Jason.G JMG Technology Merchant	what's up skip writes... Sounds like you want an Asterisk box. That would be nice :-) It doesn't have to be as fancy as that though.. I am thinking more like an answering machine attached :-) The IVR would be like the Linksys range, just so you can do things from the handset without needing to run a PC to change and get settings.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 3pm AEST
User #66051 2983 posts ascii Whirlpool Forums Addict	what's up skip writes... It is far better to a USB storage option that allows you to add one or two USB devices that can act as a NAS (network attached storage). Yes. Just a simple USB port. If you plug in a USB hard drive it automatically gets shared as a Mac or Windows share.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 7pm AEST
User #168948 121 posts skaifey02 Forum Regular	a built in webserver would be great also with storage built in, or maybe a router with a domain controller that would be pretty kewl.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 8pm AEST
User #154680 465 posts h0mer Forum Regular	Be able to update the firmware without having to reset to default/re-enter manually settings. That would be a good start.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 8pm AEST
User #38054 7187 posts vi�itor Whirlpool Forums Addict	ascii writes... Yes. Just a simple USB port. yes would be nice, two or more as extensions also too would be nicer If you plug in a USB hard drive it automatically gets shared as a Mac or Windows share. be wonderful , certainly be handy having USB on board, .	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 9pm AEST
User #5763 2153 posts Chuna PC Range Merchant	As for Gigabit, I would think 4 ports will be max, any more and you are starting to get into an affordability issue. The thing needs ot be affordable too at the end of the day.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-29, 10pm AEST
User #24615 548 posts Annihilator69 Whirlpool Enthusiast	Router Features -------------------- * Gigabit Switch * Wireless N This is pretty much the only reason why I'd upgrade from my 7401VGP-M I'm even looking to purchace just a ~4port gigabit switch and a Wireless N AP just to fulfil my needs.... So please make one :P	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 2am AEST
User #87558 100 posts Evil Santa Forum Regular	Soupy writes... Hopefully it'll have wireless that works properly. Quentin. writes... Works just fine now I stopped using my Billion for the very same reason. Wireless was not very good. With at 7500GL the wireless would suddenly stop transmitting (from between .5 - 2.5 seconds) and restart. Nothing I did would fix it. (different firmwares, all types of encryption and none, several brands of network cards, relocating the modem to a new location, using the computer just a couple of metre's away etc) Even had a house guest who commented on it. For ever other feature I was very Happy. So Let me also say... Hopefully it'll have wireless that works properly. Because my above problem made it real difficult to play online games.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 4am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Chuna writes... As for Gigabit, I would think 4 ports will be max, any more and you are starting to get into an affordability issue. The thing needs ot be affordable too at the end of the day. Agreed, I'd love 96 but I'm only happy to pay for 4, plus their current design would work with 4, not 8.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 8am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Annihilator69 writes... I'm even looking to purchace just a ~4port gigabit switch and a Wireless N AP just to fulfil my needs.... I wonder if it's possible to have it scan for wireless networks like the linksys with the other tomato firmware on it?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 8am AEST
User #30765 1765 posts handleless Whirlpool Enthusiast	holdenmann666 writes... a built in webserver would be great also with storage built in +1	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 9am AEST
User #59073 543 posts Spykes Whirlpool Enthusiast	all these features sound like something that really shouldnt be on a router for security reasons. what i want to see is a adsl2+ pci modem card with linux drivers. then you can add any features you want to your router.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 11am AEST
User #142533 189 posts spc_75 Forum Regular	Excelent idea Spykes. Need the 'linuxrouter' team back in action.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 11am AEST
User #118989 14 posts mofuxor Forum Regular	h0mer writes... Be able to update the firmware without having to reset to default/re-enter manually settings. That would be a good start. +10 to that!! Gig switch would be great also.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 1pm AEST
User #141763 30 posts Yollidon Forum Regular	h0mer writes... Be able to update the firmware without having to reset to default/re-enter manually settings. +1 But it is understood that for MAJOR problems a reset to factory defaults and manual config will be the way to go.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 1pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-30, 1pm AEST
User #154680 465 posts h0mer Forum Regular	Yollidon writes... But it is understood that for MAJOR problems a reset to factory defaults and manual config will be the way to go. According to the dumb method that Billion uses. How many other hardware providers that supply there products with firmware upgrade capability do that?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 4pm AEST
User #12142 3984 posts Piggy. Whirlpool Forums Addict	h0mer writes... How many other hardware providers........ do that? Probably all of them. Anyway, you don't HAVE to do it. Reset to factory, update firmware, reset to factory again then update with a config you saved from before. I do that all the time. However, if I have a problem I'll reset to factory and manually enter before I complain. It's understandable that Billion, no doubt, has a blanket policy to tell you to factory reset and manually re-enter settings. Lowest common denominator and all that. It's not hard really.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 4pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-30, 4pm AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	h0mer writes... How many other hardware providers that supply there products with firmware upgrade capability do that? Not dumb at all, most companies recommend this but don't advertise the fact. Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 5pm AEST
User #119302 176 posts carioca Forum Regular	JayJay writes... - A case with better ventilation for Australian summers Yeah, I've been wondering about the warm case of my new 7404VGOM. Temps inside my home office are now 24.9 C but the Billion box registers between 37.3 C and 39.7 C, depending where you point the IR thermometer...	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 6pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-30, 6pm AEST
User #142620 238 posts syn0ergy Forum Regular	Cant someone come up with an ALL IN ONE Modem. They have the technology for sure .. you would think. A print server 802.11n with backward compalibilty USB File Server which can support NTFS file system and decent xfer rates not the ones like DLINK DI-624s advertised as USB 2 transfer speeds but doesnt even get close enough. A personal web server with apache client built in now that would be awesome wouldnt it, dont need a pc running as the router would be online 24/7 saves energy to. << targeted at home SOHO users. VOIP integrated ADSL2+ annex m support and multiple PVC and IGMP for IPTV etc Maybe something along the lines of a UPNP AV which can stream videos to PC's as well as XBOX and PS3's and maybe mobile phones via wifi. .... But most off all a decent modem like the billions which can handle all these other accessories as well as maintain a stable sync and decent speeds.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 7pm AEST
User #72298 58 posts Davester Forum Regular	802.11n gigabit switch also make an ATA with the easy to use billion gui	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 7pm AEST
User #32192 13813 posts Ken Richards. Whirlpool Forums Addict	Spykes writes... all these features sound like something that really shouldnt be on a router for security reasons. what i want to see is a adsl2+ pci modem card with linux drivers. then you can add any features you want to your router. REPLYING TO Spykes... all these features sound like something that really shouldnt be on a router for security reasons. what i want to see is a adsl2+ pci modem card with linux drivers. then you can add any features you want to your router. I am using Linux as I am posting now with a 7404VGP-M Yeah, I've been wondering about the warm case of my new 7404VGOM. Temps inside my home office are now 24.9 C but the Billion box registers between 37.3 C and 39.7 C, depending where you point the IR thermometer... Elevate it. Davester Go with Glock Forum Regular :( :\| :) :D 802.11n gigabit switch also make an ATA with the easy to use billion gui We don't need the gig switch yet and the Billion GUI is very easy to use.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-30, 10pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Davester writes... also make an ATA with the easy to use billion gui ATA?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 1pm AEST
User #121028 2672 posts Mike.H Whirlpool Forums Addict	carioca writes... the Billion box registers between 37.3 C and 39.7 C I sit my Billion on its end, rather than flat on the desk - seems to have better air flow and keeps cooler this way. Maybe a small fan in the next one to keep things cooler?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 1pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-31, 3pm AEST
User #119302 176 posts carioca Forum Regular	Mike.H writes... I sit my Billion on its end, rather than flat on the desk - seems to have better air flow and keeps cooler this way. Ta, it hasn't got those ears, but... However, I'll put some tiny screws in my desk and hang the Billion off the rear edge of the desk... BTW, the underside is even hotter! Cheers, LMH	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 5pm AEST
User #70765 845 posts JayJay Whirlpool Enthusiast	The point is that it should be able to cool sufficiently sitting horizontally on a desk in an non-air conditioned room anywhere is Australia, so the nest Billion should take that into account.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 6pm AEST
User #130592 1314 posts dustintheshelves Whirlpool Enthusiast	Annihilator69 writes... * Gigabit Switch * Wireless N This is pretty much the only reason why I'd upgrade from my 7401VGP-M +1 too.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 6pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	dustintheshelves writes... +1 too. What about funky graphs and stuff like the WRT54GL? some of the features from that?	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 6pm AEST
User #130592 1314 posts dustintheshelves Whirlpool Enthusiast	Scott L writes... What about funky graphs and stuff like the WRT54GL? some of the features from that? Huh? never used one so don't know what i am missing. All i want is a 7404vgp-m with 802.11n and GB Lan.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 6pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	dustintheshelves writes... Huh? never used one so don't know what i am missing. All i want is a 7404vgp-m with 802.11n and GB Lan. Never heard of Tomato firmware??	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 8pm AEST
User #53611 447 posts Zodie666 Forum Regular	1. Gigabit switch - 3 or 4 port. 2. USB port - for storage or print server. Let's face it, how expensive will it be with any sort of decent storage built in? 3. Torrent client - no use without storage, see point 2 4. Wireless N	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 9pm AEST
User #130592 1314 posts dustintheshelves Whirlpool Enthusiast	Scott L writes... Never heard of Tomato firmware?? Nup. Edit: just did a google for it, doesn't seem to add anything that i want, eg GB lan and 802.11n and the WRT54GL doesn't have VoIP and Annex M. Sure lots of pretty graphs and other functionality which doesn't really interest me. Edit #2: not really interested in pre-n stuff either, so am happy to wait till 802.11n is properly ratified. Ta muchly for the info anyway :)	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 9pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-31, 9pm AEST
User #97088 162 posts Fjord Forum Regular	I'd like to see Wake on LAN functionality so that I can wake computers on my LAN from the WAN side. Perhaps login to the router and select which IP address to send a magic packet, or send the router itself a magic packet which gets correctly forwarded based on the WAN port number.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 10pm AEST edited 2007-Oct-31, 10pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Fjord writes... I'd like to see Wake on LAN functionality so that I can wake computers on my LAN from the WAN side. Now that's a great idea.	anchor posted 2007-Oct-31, 10pm AEST
User #41417 1534 posts serpeant Whirlpool Enthusiast	Soupy� writes... Hopefully it'll have wireless that works properly. I've heard a lot of people that complain about Billion wireless. What's wrong with it - I'm genuinely interested to know?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 7am AEST
User #23455 1745 posts Megasaxon Whirlpool Enthusiast	+1 for Gigabit Switching and USB print server :) Wireless N would also be neat.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 7am AEST
User #35986 1135 posts Dr_Evil Whirlpool Enthusiast	h0mer writes... Be able to update the firmware without having to reset to default/re-enter manually settings. That would be a good start. I second that notion DrE	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 8am AEST
User #196135 83 posts paulperseverance7 Participant	how about a standalone VOIP ATA with all the ports and configuration you want? or does it already exist?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 9am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	serpeant writes... What's wrong with it - I'm genuinely interested to know? Worked fine for me.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 6pm AEST
User #42702 2224 posts Jason.G JMG Technology Merchant	Chuna, Do you have any of the VDSL models coming soon now that Eftel has announced they are rolling out VDSL?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 6pm AEST
User #28146 4105 posts pointblank Whirlpool Forums Addict	Fjord writes... so that I can wake computers on my LAN from the WAN side. I have setup VPN on my 7402R2 and WakeOnLan on the computer I want to access. Since my remote client looks like it is a LAN IP address, I can wake up the computer without problems. Before browsing the computer's local shares, you need to give Windows enought time to make the shares available.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 7pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	pointblank writes... I have setup VPN on my 7402R2 and WakeOnLan on the computer I want to access. Since my remote client looks like it is a LAN IP address, I can wake up the computer without problems. I tried that and had problems, would prefer it in my router TBH.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 7pm AEST
User #53679 12255 posts webwombat� Whirlpool Forums Addict	I like to see the size of the box reduced to half e.g. size of a mini USB external HDD	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 7pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	webwombat™ writes... I like to see the size of the box reduced to half e.g. size of a mini USB external HDD Disagreed and wouldn't want it. The box is already too small if it's on a shelf with the weight of all those cables pulling on it, it nearly falls off now. Wouldn't mind one of those plastic mounts on the base like the back of a phone to mount it to a wall though using a screw. Also how would you fit in 4 RJ45 plugs, power button, adsl, line, voip, wifi plugs all at the back if it's half the size?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-1, 8pm AEST
User #53679 12255 posts webwombat� Whirlpool Forums Addict	Scott L writes... Also how would you fit in 4 RJ45 plugs, power button, adsl, line, voip, wifi plugs all at the back if it's half the size? I'd like to see that "all wireless"	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 6am AEST
User #5763 2153 posts Chuna PC Range Merchant	Jason.G writes... Do you have any of the VDSL models coming soon now that Eftel has announced they are rolling out VDSL? Possibly next year. Lets wait for it to be ratified first. All these announcements are great PR hype.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 10am AEST
User #42702 2224 posts Jason.G JMG Technology Merchant	Pretty sure some ISPs were using ADSL2+ before it was fully ratified (maybe just in testing) even so having VDSL2 on the cards within the next 12 months is a great thing. VDSL2 modem with VoIP would be good :-)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 10am AEST
User #52083 701 posts john Whirlpool Enthusiast	I woud like to see a better recovery from a power glitch. The first time I noticed, it stops the ATA so all call went out on the PSTN. I think I gat a $50 PSTN bill. The second time, the light just dimmed, all the computers did not rest, but the router stop working. I would like to see it do a full reset if it detected any glitches. I don't know if there is a watch dog timer inside	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 12pm AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	john writes... I woud like to see a better recovery from a power glitch. Hi John Tere is normally no problem with this. I would like to see it do a full reset if it detected any glitches. I don't know if there is a watch dog timer inside This is currently the case with watchdog. Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 12pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	webwombat™ writes... I'd like to see that "all wireless" You're clearly joking, trolling or just plain being silly. You want the ADSL LINE PORT to be 'wireless' I think you need to subscribe to Telstra's next G network. Also show me a wireless network that will compete with gigabit lan? Show me a wireless POWER plug and wireless power button on the next billion. Please - the form factor is fine, we just want (even) more features.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 2pm AEST
User #53611 447 posts Zodie666 Forum Regular	john writes... I don't know if there is a watch dog timer inside The watchdog timer does not fix issues with VoIP when the Billion 'thinks' it is registered but in actual fact VoIP does not work. Even the 'sync now" button does nothing. Must be a provider issue tho.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-2, 7pm AEST
User #53679 12255 posts webwombat� Whirlpool Forums Addict	Scott L writes... You're clearly joking, trolling or just plain being silly. think outside the square - ever thought that the motherboard can have these features and work wireless via ' bluetooth ' to a modem? Hence that all the wires are actually fed via the PC not the modem	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 9am AEST
User #115727 837 posts patch1 Whirlpool Enthusiast	1) DECT 2 port base station connecting to the internal ATA 2) Configurable PSTN so call waiting from PSTN can be disabled (caller get engaged tone if both lines in use). 3) Improved QoS so it handles a) Many low priority connections (eg p2p) with out flooding a high priority connection. b) Slow high priority connection should have minimal effect on a fast low priority connection. Edit: Implies using separate queues for high, medium and low priority packets instead of a assigning a percentage of link capacity.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 10am AEST edited 2007-Nov-4, 9am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	webwombat™ writes... think outside the square - ever thought that the motherboard can have these features and work wireless via ' bluetooth ' to a modem? Hence that all the wires are actually fed via the PC not the modem You can't be serious.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 1pm AEST
User #52083 701 posts john Whirlpool Enthusiast	Zodie666 writes... The watchdog timer does not fix issues with VoIP when the Billion 'thinks' it is registered but in actual fact VoIP does not work. Even the 'sync now" button does nothing. Cannot depend on the registeration flag because if the VOIP provider is down you don't want the modem to reset continuously until the VOIP provider comes back. I was thinking more about the power fail detect threshold. In my billion it was not set high enough sso that the voltage low enough to cause parts of the harware to fail but not low enough to cause a full reset.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 4pm AEST
User #4589 349 posts Jim Bookis Forum Regular	patch1 writes... 1) DECT 2 port base station connecting to the internal ATA I second this - make sure it's GAP compliant. One "port" should be fine as one DECT base station can support 6 handsets with their own calls so you could have 6 ports essentially. I'd love to remove the analogue FXS component to make VoIP even better.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 5pm AEST
User #4589 349 posts Jim Bookis Forum Regular	Spykes writes... what i want to see is a adsl2+ pci modem card with linux drivers. then you can add any features you want to your router. Melbourne company Traverse is coming out with just that this month! www.traverse.com.au/prod...p?product_id=115	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 5pm AEST
User #53679 12255 posts webwombat� Whirlpool Forums Addict	Scott L writes... You can't be serious. perhaps you could be more constructive in your comments - how would you make it better?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-3, 7pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	webwombat™ writes... perhaps you could be more constructive in your comments - how would you make it better? Your theory is nothing short of absoloutely ridiculous and frankly insulting to the thread, I'm flabberghasted no one else has called you on it, it's mind boggling. You want a wireless version of the billion modem but the wires go into a different unit and the router itself does all the processing remotely over wireless - WHAT? Am I reading your posts incorrectly? There is nothing, at all wrong in any way with the current billion modems form factor, we'd like more SENSIBLE features, perhaps a new wireless protocol, new security, charts, more ports, gigabit ports, more web features, more QOS, better indicator lights, a memory port on the unit to plug in USB storage maybe use it as a NAS? have wake on lan. You propose a unit the size of a 2.5" external HDD, I call you on it saying there's barely enough room for cables and you claim they can go in another box of some sort. WHAT? Please, stop trolling, just stop.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 12am AEST
User #7411 18982 posts Tone. Mangy Fleabag	I'm still happy with my 7500GL after nearly 3 years. The wireless performance has been nothing short of flawless, the only issue I've had is with the power switch (a common, easy to fix fault on older Billions ... just ask anyone with a 741/743 series ...). That said, I'd seriously consider upgrading to a new Billion with these features: - n wireless (once the standard is sorted) - 4 port gigabit switch - Built in BitTorrent client - Built in print server - NAS capability via an external drive (i.e. USB HDD, flash drive etc) ... whilst it would be nice to have support for an internal drive, I realise that size, cooling, cost etc could make this prohibitive. If I could have all that for < $300, I'd be stoked.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 6am AEST edited 2007-Nov-4, 6am AEST
User #53679 12255 posts webwombat� Whirlpool Forums Addict	Scott L writes... WHAT? Please, stop trolling, just stop. thanks for your constructive comments - I am basing my proposed model ( Airport Extreme - www.apple.com/airportextreme ) with wireless ethernet ports and wireless wan port ( are they possible? ) and one USB cable for the power supply for the modem ( can a usb cable be used a power supply ? sounds silly BUT can it be done? looking at usb mobile phone chargers - same principle ) I am purely looking @ physical features of the modem I have Billion 7402 VGP and loving it and like you said this will be my final post in this thread as you think its insulting that I am sharing my 'ideas' and you think its mind boggling - of course and enough is enough	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 7am AEST edited 2007-Nov-4, 7am AEST
User #33354 1902 posts Mitch. Whirlpool Enthusiast	Alan Partridge writes... the only issue I've had is with the power switch (a common, easy to fix fault on older Billions ... just ask anyone with a 741/743 series ...). I've got a 743GE... What's the power button issue?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 5pm AEST
User #7411 18982 posts Tone. Mangy Fleabag	Mitch. writes... I've got a 743GE... What's the power button issue? They don't survive well if they are used regularly. Not an issue if you never switch the router off, or if you switch it off at the wall.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 6pm AEST
User #142620 238 posts syn0ergy Forum Regular	Well following the thread, most of the recommendations are for a NAS, if so wouldnt it be better to incorporate a media streaming system, whereby you could stream videos/music/photos to the TV set, or other PC's directly from the NAS, via wifi? ALso multiple PVC's for IPTV would be great!	anchor posted 2007-Nov-4, 11pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	My 743's power button has never been a problem?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-5, 3pm AEST
User #119302 176 posts carioca Forum Regular	Ken Richards. writes... Yeah, I've been wondering about the warm case of my new 7404VGOM. Temps inside my home office are now 24.9 C but the Billion box registers between 37.3 C and 39.7 C, depending where you point the IR thermometer... Elevate it. Done - sort of: pls see picasaweb.google.com/Bra...9579501609960290 Cheers, LMH	anchor posted 2007-Nov-6, 2pm AEST
User #27896 521 posts megod Whirlpool Enthusiast	I would like Billion modems to have a 1000mb LAN instead of 100mb lans. Wireless N. And make sure the Antenna is not fixed. As I love My Billlion 7404VPG Non fixed Antenna.(Can ADD MY OWN) This would make Billion just great cheers megod	anchor posted 2007-Nov-6, 7pm AEST edited 2007-Nov-6, 8pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Any more?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-7, 6am AEST
User #27896 521 posts megod Whirlpool Enthusiast	Scott L writes... Any more? Yes, and a 20% off voucher for my next billion purchase....Not Retail price but Price advertised...valid for 12 month. On any retail place that sells Billion :) cheers megod	anchor posted 2007-Nov-7, 6am AEST edited 2007-Nov-7, 6am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	megod writes... Yes, and a 20% off voucher for my next billion purchase....Not Retail price but Price advertised...valid for 12 month. On any retail place that sells Billion :) cheers megod Trace in your old 711CE and 50$ for the latest model perhaps? :)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-7, 5pm AEST
User #17357 7272 posts Fuzion Whirlpool Forums Addict	Cant wait till the new Billions get released next year. Hopefully with 802.11n and gigabit switch! that would be an awesome upgrade from my 7404VPGM	anchor posted 2007-Nov-7, 8pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Fuzion writes... Cant wait till the new Billions get released next year. Hopefully with 802.11n and gigabit switch! that would be an awesome upgrade from my 7404VPGM I'm on an ADSL 1 modem 99% of the time I get slow downloads on it because the source site can't give me more than 8mbit (or hell 2mbit) However I also get stuff from gamershell now and then and 700kb doesn't cut it when demos are up to 2gb now, sure it's only an hour but 30 minutes or less would be nicer. I know my line can do 18mbit too :/	anchor posted 2007-Nov-8, 7pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	There's several good threads on the billion forum for features. DNS caching service. Auto re-boot of modem More secure web interface Name associations with wifi mac allow / disallow lists. NTP server Check it out www.billion.com.au/forum...php?showforum=30	anchor posted 2007-Nov-8, 11pm AEST
User #187613 1239 posts Jay! Whirlpool Enthusiast	In a billion years. Haha, get it? Billion? Gee. I'm so funny tumble weed	anchor posted 2007-Nov-9, 1am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Oh dude, total tumble weed.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-10, 9am AEST
User #187613 1239 posts Jay! Whirlpool Enthusiast	I think your jelouse of not thinking of it before me. :)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-10, 1pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Any more people?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-11, 10pm AEST
User #187613 1239 posts Jay! Whirlpool Enthusiast	Yeah, about a billion more people. Badoom tish! :D	anchor posted 2007-Nov-11, 11pm AEST
User #24242 16868 posts The Oracle Man Whirlpool Forums Addict	Being able to track data usage per-IP address would be very handy as well. Maybe even a better Cisco-like IOS?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 12am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	A usage counter on the unit might be quite nice actually	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 7am AEST
User #3544 3526 posts Bob TheBuilder Whirlpool Forums Addict	Capt'n Black writes... Being able to track data usage per-IP address would be very handy as well Yes... very :) Actually I would hope they're all gigabit ethernet too :) I'm extremely happy with by 7402VGP. Has been serving me well for ages. I just started looking around for 802.11n stuff from them and stumbled upon this thread :)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 7am AEST
User #10567 1876 posts crusj0r Whirlpool Enthusiast	Bring on the gigabit switch! :)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 7am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	crusj0r writes... . Bring on the gigabit switch! :) We all seem to want one, it's a recurring theme at this point. Copying at 10mb a second is so ...... 1990's now :/ I need 25+mb a second	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 8am AEST
User #3544 3526 posts Bob TheBuilder Whirlpool Forums Addict	Scott L writes... need 25+mb a second Tell me about it. Even gigabit isn't fast enough any more :)	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 10am AEST
User #82569 216 posts Real AusTech Forum Regular	gunna64 writes... Print server with mulitfunction printer support ..... yes please! I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that option, mainly because each print server combined with a router is currently listed as NOT being compatible with MFP's. It might be worthwhile to get in touch with the MFP and networking hardware manufacturers to see if they are doing anything about the situation. If they are, then you can ask them "when can users expect to be able to connect their hardware together?"	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 11am AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Bob TheBuilder writes... Tell me about it. Even gigabit isn't fast enough any more :) It's a good start though, 25mb is not an unrealistic sustained figure, it's still 1.5gb a minute or backing up a 200gb drive in 2 hours instead of 5 and a half. Plus gigabit is really finally becoming mainstream so it may not be that expensive for them to add.	anchor posted 2007-Nov-12, 11am AEST
User #187613 1239 posts Jay! Whirlpool Enthusiast	Capt'n Black writes... Being able to track data usage per-IP address would be very handy as well. I dont exactly get what you mean, but wouldnt it screw up for dynamic IP's?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-13, 8pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	Jay! writes... I dont exactly get what you mean, but wouldnt it screw up for dynamic IP's? Internally on the lan? probably - but just use static ip's internally	anchor posted 2007-Nov-14, 1am AEST
User #19384 6764 posts Shru�e Whirlpool Forums Addict	So.. as I undersand it , there is no pending Billion release to superceed the 7404 series? or from the comments of Billion distys and staff.. there isn't even a consideration of it? Only asking because my Bipac 741GE has been going flawlessly (for what it is) since 2002. Apart from a storm blowing out a lan port, its been a gem. But it is time to upgrade to a VoIP modem that handles P2P traffic strongly and has an option for wireless. I'll get a 7404VGP. Just wondering if i should be waiting a month or two?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-14, 5pm AEST edited 2007-Nov-14, 6pm AEST
User #1019 3728 posts Scott L Whirlpool Forums Addict	If I read correctly, it's being worked on now?	anchor posted 2007-Nov-15, 7am AEST
User #87096 4121 posts Quentin. Billion Hardware Vendor	Shru�e writes... So.. as I undersand it , there is no pending Billion release to superceed the 7404 series? Hi Shru�e forum-replies.cfm?t=848495#r20 Cheers	anchor posted 2007-Nov-15, 10am AEST
User #40966 5571 posts phoenixthesmeg Whirlpool Forums Addict	A few people have suggested USB for HDD support but I would prefer eSATA as it should perform better. It would also be nice if you could run apache, mysql and PHP on the modem. That way you could install your own torrent client and run it as a real webserver but then again that would probably be unrealistic as the modem would have to be more powerful and developement would probably really hard to do as a complete re-write would probably be needed. This would jump the cost a bit too much IMO. Although basing the firmware on say Linux and having the firware open source would be great so that third parties can add features if they wish :-) Scott L writes... Gigabit switch? +1 Scott L writes... The box is already too small if it's on a shelf with the weight of all those cables pulling on it, it nearly falls off now. +1 on that too although I can now plug all my cables into my 24 port 10/100 rack mount switch :-) would still like gigabit though. Maybe it just needs a bit more weight up front. webwombat™ writes... think outside the square - ever thought that the motherboard can have these features and work wireless via ' bluetooth ' to a modem? Interesting idea but would make the modem much more expensive and make it perform like complete garbage. Wireless protocols are much slower and less secure and I for one would automatically dismiss the modem if it was completely wireless.