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SYSTEM SPECS
E4400
2GB DDR2 1066 (800 AT STOCK FOR SOME REASON GUESSING THE FSB)
74GB RAPTOR
XFI XTREME GAMER
8800GTS
Z-5500
22" DELL
320GB WD
160GB WD
STOCK INTEL COOLING

Now I overclocked the CPU to 2.8GHz *Where RAM was at 1066 with a RAM multiplier of 4 and CPU of 10* I only got temps of 60C load. But when i was playing CSS it BSOD.

Now I rose the voltage up to "1.3312V" and still unstable what should i do?

TIA
Jen <3

isnt the default voltage 1.35 for the cpu? take it up some more?

First of all, CS:S isn't a proper stress tester. Use Orthos, if you're not already:

www.overclock.net/downlo...s-v20060420.html

You can up the voltage to get it stable, but make sure the temps don't go far past 65C. I'd try 1.35v next. Measure temps with CoreTemp:

www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp

Ok I am currently at 2.9GHz

Using the program ORTHOS "STRESS CPU"

Completed 96000 iterations without errors (1176.00 GFLOP)

Temps are at 57"C and I have upped the voltage to 1.296 according to CPU-Z but i thought i upped it a little higher. I am going to go higher what is the highest voltage you guys would reccomend?

BSOD could be a driver issue
play CSS without overclocking

Yeah I did and it did not BSOD.

Heat will likely be the limiting factor in your overclock.

I wouldn't put the vcore past 1.45v, and I wouldn't let the temperature (when running Orthos) go past 65C.

Once you're happy with the overclock, you should leave the Orthos CPU stress test running overnight for about 9 hours to make sure it's 100% stable.

Ok

I have it at 3Ghz I am just about to run the stress test.

Voltage is 1.34375v

When i went to 1.35000V @ 3.2GHz the system wouldn't boot.

I have seem to have hit a brick wall.

3.0GHz @ 1.425V 65"C

edit: Just got a BSOD i have now upped the oltage to 1.44v

A better stress testing program is Prime95, latest version is 25.4. Orthos is quite old now as it was based on an ancient build of Prime95.

www.softpedia.com/get/Ot...on/Prime95.shtml

Oh no, another BSOD :(

I am now at 2.85GHz @ 1.4V

2.8Ghz seems the go here.

61"C 5 minutes through the stress test.

S-Murfy writes...

A better stress testing program is Prime95, latest version is 25.4. Orthos is quite old now as it was based on an ancient build of Prime95.

Really? So is the new version of Prime95 better at detecting errors, or faster, or what?

Is there a link confirming this?

Jenna_Gal writes...

2.8Ghz seems the go here.

61"C 5 minutes through the stress test.

Out of curiosity where are you reading those temperatures?
If it's Speedfan then those readings are correct for the E4300 and E4400 chipset, while TAT is 15 degrees higher.

Check the seating of the heatsink again by wiggling each leg, they should be sturdy in the holes.

Intel stock coolers are "chuck-able", never extreme overclock with Intel stock coolers.

I reached 3.0GHz on an E4400 at 1.35V with the Coolermaster HyperTX ($50) with load temps of 50 degrees with ambient of 21 degrees, and the bonus is that it's really, really quiet.

I think you may have bought the latest M0 stepping of the CPU which is not very good for overclocking than the L2 stepping.

forum-replies.cfm?t=792785

My L2 stepping E4400 can run @ 3.1GHz with stock voltage and stock fan.

www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=642

According to CPU-Z

"FAMILY:6 Model:F Stepping:2 Ext Fam:6 Ext Mod:F Revision :L2

Does that mean i have an L2 version?

seems you got a bad batch

my e4400 does EASILY 3ghz 1.325 vcore :)

i only need 1.45 or there abouts for 3.3ghz

What on your box?

SLA3F = L2
SLA98 = M0

EDIT: Also what brand name of RAM is it? Generic?

I threw the box away :(

superforever writes...

SLA3F = L2

its likely to be this one, as the M0 one is not going to be released until late August, if i am right that is, or some where near there

Also what RAM and motherboard you are using?

EDIT: I think he got L2 stepping so must be the RAM and Motherboard.

I am using GA-P35C-DS3R and Supertalent 800MHz RAM.

it says the mobo in the title and the ram in the first post.... i dont think its those limiting

ilovekimchi writes...

and the ram in the first po

But he didn't said what brand name of the RAM.

superforever writes...

But she didn't said what brand name of the RAM.

I don't think it is the RAM even though it is generic. It is rated at 1066MHz but is running at 1000Mhz

May be need to update the BIOS??

its already a p35 chipset....i doubt it needs a bios update

I agree with updating the BIOS

I was getting a few blue screens when i put a Q6600 into a 965P-DS3P, once i updates to F5 BIOS, no problems at all.

EDIT: although, it is a new board. So it might possibly something to do with system drivers.

ilovekimchi writes...

its already a p35 chipset....i doubt it needs a bios update

A new BIOS beta released

www.gigabyte.com.tw/Supp...x?ProductID=2533

try setting voltages on auto...

i got 3.2ghz on my e4400 loading at 35C with stockcooler

Dopes writes...

i got 3.2ghz on my e4400 loading at 35C with stockcooler

What do you mean loading?
Loading like TAT, if so then I'll trade you :)

Dopes writes...

i got 3.2ghz on my e4400 loading at 35C with stockcooler

Are you sure 35C?

Dopes writes...

i got 3.2ghz on my e4400 loading at 35C with stockcooler

There is no way an E4400 at 3.2GHz has a max temp of 35C with the stock cooler. Unless you live in Antarctica with your box outside.

To the OP: overclocking is always a gamble - you could buy two CPUs on the same day from the same place and get quite different results. Sounds like your CPU isn't the best at overclocking, but don't be too disappointed - at 2.8GHz that's still a 40% overclock.

For comparison, my E4300 tops out at 3GHz, but isn't perfectly stable at that speed - I have to drop back to 2.8GHz as well to keep it stable.

My E4500 is currently sitting on 3.41ghz , and is very stable.

I have hit a wall with the ram as it running at 1032mhz even though the ram is Corsair 800mhz. I think to get a higher overclock i will need 1066mhz ram.

Temps are 16 degrees at idle and about 33 degrees under load. I am using the stock Intel HSF.

I have fans blowing air directly onto the Northbridge and ram sticks and this keeps the temps low.

It is quite possible to get a lot of out of these MO E4x00s provided all BIOS settings are ideal and the right hardware is used. What i have found is that to much voltage to the Northbridge will impede the overclocking results so i have the BIOS NB set to normal value.

As previously mentioned check the voltages as this could be the problem.

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can you overclock further if the cpu is at a lower multiplier?

higher multiplier is better since it means you need less fbs, so if the mobo cant even handle that fbs then...

ilovekimchi writes...

higher multiplier is better since it means you need less fbs, so if the mobo cant even handle that fbs then...

That is not the case sometime if you want to go higher you can lower the multiplier and increase FSB. Only if your RAM can handle higher FSB.

mrtone writes...

Temps are 16 degrees at idle and about 33 degrees under load. I am using the stock Intel HSF.

What program you use to check temp?

How can it be? Is it M0 stepping cooler?

Temps are 16 degrees at idle and about 33 degrees under load. I am using the stock Intel HSF.

Is it 10 degrees in your room? Those temps sound very unlikely.

I don't think you're being reported very accurate temps.

Smoza writes...

Is it 10 degrees in your room? Those temps sound very unlikely.

I don't think you're being reported very accurate temps.

Yeah How can it cooler than room temperature?

well mine idles at 20C...i use bios and coretemp to check

how long do i run orthos to get an accurate load temp reading?

Dopes writes...

well mine idles at 20C...i use bios and coretemp to check

how long do i run orthos to get an accurate load temp reading?

I got a difference reading from Easy Tune(BIOS) and Coretemp.

forum-replies.cfm?t=8031...680584#r12680584

superforever writes...

What program you use to check temp

Easy Tune and Speedfan. TAT always shows a temp of about 10 degrees more than ET and Speedfan.

How can it be? Is it M0 stepping cooler?

I reckon it's the strategically placed fans blowing air onto the ram slots and Northbridge.

Also the NB voltage is set to Normal meaning it ain't getting to hot.

Yesterday i managed to squeeze an extra 11mhz out of the CPU with a memtest of 30 minutes showing the ram and cpu are stable. It is now running at 311 x 11 = 3421mhz. This Corsair 800mhz ram is brilliant.

I just booted up the computer and the tems is 17 degrees. I will now try to get another 11mhz out of the cpu and ram.

Smoza writes...

Those temps sound very unlikely.

Not really if you know how to cool down a computer.

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mrtone writes...

Not really if you know how to cool down a computer.

i96.photobucket.com/albu...enHunter_4-3.jpg

i96.photobucket.com/albu...enHunter_3-3.jpg

I guess it's easy when you've got a fan running at 1350000 RPM. Must be a loud bugger!

It's physically impossible to get your CPU temp lower than ambient when using air cooling (much less the stock HSF) so unless the room temp is very low (read about 0 degrees) than those temps can't be correct.

My E4400 is running at 3ghz with Speedfan core temps at 20 & 23 and Coretemp at 34 & 38 at default settings and stock fan.

Smoza writes...

Must be a loud bugger!


Not really.

than those temps can't be correct.

Well what can i say besides it all adds up.

mATX board in a big Soprano case. The Soprano has a front intake fan that when the front door is opened it sucks in cold air much more effectively. Also the room the computer sits in has got a tiled floor and sits near the window.

Mate what can i say but chose the right case , whack in 3 extra fans ( yes the Soprano has 6 fans now ) and place them to blow air to the much needed motherboard components and presto instant cool pc on cheap air cooling.

I do believe these temps to be accurate and no matter what anyone says to the contrary i stand firm in my beliefs.

Then again there is the ole fingering test , that is touch the NB and around the HSF to see how long you could keep a finger there. But then again i have nothing to prove as i know what the real deal is.

It's physically impossible to get pour CPU temp lower than ambient

In Sydney right now it is 13 degrees. The E4500 rig is idling at 17 degrees. The ambient temp in this room is much lower than the cpu's temp hence the E4500 sitting happy at 17 degrees.

I expect when summer comes round the cpu idle temps will go up somewhat.

Anyways back to admiring my low temperature E4500.

hartless1 writes...

My E4400 is running at 3ghz with Speedfan core temps at 20 & 23

see another happy E4x00 chip owner.

mrtone writes...

Mate what can i say but chose the right case , whack in 3 extra fans ( yes the Soprano has 6 fans now ) and place them to blow air to the much needed motherboard components and presto instant cool pc on cheap air cooling.

I have an E4300 in a Coolermaster Stacker with 5 120mm fans plus the motherboard crossflow fan using a thermalright XP-120 heatsink, with it running at 3GHz, and I can assure you there's no way possible that your CPU is running at 35C under load.

If it were only running at those temps you'd be able to overclock it a lot higher than what you're getting, but I'm assuming that you've got it running at those speeds because it's not stable any higher than that.

The temperature sensors in CPUs are notoriously bad - it's far more likely that your CPU is reporting the temps incorrectly than you actually running at only 35C under load.

Besides, you say it runs at 17C idle, yet it's 13C ambient temperature outside. You seriously think that the inside of your house is within 2-3 degrees of outside, plus your CPU is only running 2-3 degrees above that? I'm sorry, but no.

What temps do TAT or Coretemp display? Can you run orthos for a while and tell us what temps you've got?

Mine is running @ 3ghz because I have only had it a week and haven`t tried for more. Now I `ll just have to try. CU later

OK 3ghz seems to be my limit at stock. At 3.1 posted and booted but xp either froze or ran slow. Back to 3ghz and its running sweet again. It`ll do me.

Ok people, I have tried to OC more again, I am stable @ 2.85GHz, when i went to 2.9GHz with 1.442v *The one just under 1.45v* I got an error within orthos, I am now getting now errors at 2.85 but my CPU is @ 68"C is that to hot?