Just wanted to check this out, not sure what there even meant to be.

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Core 1 seems to be running hotter than the rest of them, is that becuase its only really using core 1 mainly?

r those idle temps or under load temps?

what voltage, cpu clock speed and HSF are u using?

King Koopa writes...

is that becuase its only really using core 1 mainly?
I'd say so, run dual Orthos's or Quad Prime95's or something and then they should all be fairly similar..

Squallff8aus writes...

what voltage, cpu clock speed and HSF are u using?

Pardon?

Well those temps are while im using the computer, Cpu Clock speed is stock i havent touched anything in the overclocking area, and wtf is HSF? is that heat sink fan? will if so its just the one that comes with the CPU in the Box

Where can i find them programs you talk of Girraffe i couldnt find them?

King Koopa writes...

is that heat sink fan?
Yes.

Orthos
Intel TAT

Should come in handy.

Also if you like try leave the comp completely idle for 10mins or so, see if the temps even out.

For stock that is a little too high, it's not even summer yet. I would strongly check your cpu fan to make sure it's installed correctly. Also if you have any arctic 5 paste lying around you may want to apply some.

I'm running a Amd x2 power hungry thing in a micro atx case which has no air vents overlocked to 3.0ghz idling at 33c and load at 48c currently.

editted !corrected arctic spelling

Trekster writes...

For stock that is a little too high, it's not even summer yet. I would strongly check your cpu fan to make sure it's installed correctly. Also if you have any artic 5 paste lying around you may want to apply some.

Artic paste what the hell is that, i have some super glue here? so u think i should take it all apart again and re install all the hardware?

Also those programs didnt work, well the intel TAT one said this

Error enumerating On demand clock Modulation support Terminating tool?

holy shit thats so high. if all the Q6600's are like this, im going for the E6850 instead. hope to see better temps soon.

Trekster writes...

idling at 33c and load at 48c

is that the individual core temp or the temp of the chip surface?

the OP was refering to the temp of each core. i was just looking at some intel document ( www.intel.com/design/pro...ashts/315592.htm ) and it seem to indicate that the q6600 should run at a chip surface temp of lower than 61 degrees. but i can't seem to find acceptable values for the core temps.

Artic paste what the hell is that, i have some super glue here? so u think i should take it all apart again and re install all the hardware?

Also those programs didnt work, well the intel TAT one said this

Error enumerating On demand clock Modulation support Terminating tool?

lol!!! Please don't use glue of any sort...

i was referring to this www.onlinevip.com.au/pro...905ae5e0ae4658d6
It's the compound that sits in between your cpu and fan...

is that the individual core temp or the temp of the chip surface?

I was just reading the temp from what core temp was saying also rmclock 2.2 and everest.

King Koopa writes...

Artic paste what the hell is that, i have some super glue here? so u think i should take it all apart again and re install all the hardware?

LOL..

Do you research mate..

typing 'arctic silver" or even arctic paste, spelt correctly of course, would yield the oh so obvious answer.

Super Glue sticks stuff..to stuff..not fills in microscopic crevices in the metal so that the heat is efficiently transferred from the CPU heatspreader to the HS..

Fair difference.

oh god no wonder your temps are so high. SUPER GLUE the cpu instead of thermal paste??? haha thats a classic!

I personally feel he hasn't got the cpu fan installed correctly.

Sorry about the arctic spelling error above :)

TheElmo writes...

Do you research mate..

I dont have time for that, thats why i come here, anyway so ive left the computer for about 5 mins not doing anything, all cores are at

1. 56
2. 51
3. 55
4. 49

Why was it high before tho, if there is seriously and error in my hardware from me putting it together let me know, i think i might pull it all apart and re position the Fan etc, do you think this will fix anything?

Also the super Glue was a joke lol, but i actually didnt know what the arctic silver stuff did, i new it was for CPU's etc.

Trekster writes...

I personally feel he hasn't got the cpu fan installed correctly.

But i dont understand everything is working correctly, the fan is running correctly well it looks like it is?

King Koopa writes...

1. 56
2. 51
3. 55
4. 49

my guess is your chip surface temp is at about 35-40 degrees; which isn't that bad.

(i'm talking about the TC value from the document)

Also the super Glue was a joke lol, but i actually didnt know what the arctic silver stuff did, i new it was for CPU's etc.

Your temps seem a little better now at idle your previous temps were showing at load by the look of things.

Just get some arctic 5 paste apply that and your temps should drop a little further.
Also you may want to invest in a aftermarker cpu cooler.

Good luck

King Koopa writes...

I dont have time for that, thats why i come here, anyway so ive left the computer for about 5 mins not doing anything, all cores are at

A bit of basic research..IE: one google search, doesn't even count as research.. we can't spoon feed ya mate.

If you can reseat it, put new thermal paste, make sure it's clipped on properly, you may get an improvement in temps.

TheElmo writes...

put new thermal paste

New? there was never any to start with?

Actually the fan was abit loose when i first installed it, i checked this though 3 times, made sure it was sitting right and tight.

Also if i buy another FAN ive seen these what are they Zalman or somthing, do u just remove the standard intel one and replace it with a zalman?

Ok when i start a program, it jumps upto 72 degrees, is that a problem il pull the heap of sh*t apart now?

King Koopa writes...

there was never any to start with?

There's your problem.

Jigsta writes...

There's your problem.

What so your telling me i actually needed this stuff b4 hand? this cpu wont blow up will it?

Jigsta writes...

There's your problem.

The stock HSF has a thin layer of some grey stuff on it already. My B3 Q6600 @3.2GHz with 1.3875vcore is 47 core0, 42 core1, 46 core2 and 40 degrees celcius for core3. I'm running a CoolerMaster GeminII with 2x 120mm Scythe S-FLEX 63CFM fans and AS5.

At stock (2.4GHz) with the GeminII, I was sitting around 38-46 across the cores.

King Koopa writes...

What so your telling me i actually needed this stuff b4 hand? this cpu wont blow up will it?

Well usually it comes *with* your CPU (applied to heatsink?) when you buy it. It increases surface to surface contact with your heatsink (fills in the minute grooves and imperfections).

So i do have a problem, im running an antec nine hundred, all fans on high the case it pretty cool, dam it what is going on

1. Either the HSF is mounted incorrectly, or;
2. There is really no problem at all as these Quad's run quite hot to begin with.
3. Perhaps a combination of both?

Here's my current B3 Q6600 (@3.2GHz with 1.3875vcore) idle temps with the GeminII, 2x Scythe S-FLEX 120mm fans and some AS5;
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King Koopa writes...

So i do have a problem

Yes. 72 degrees on load is too high.

{dmb} PeteyPete writes...

I was sitting around 38-46 across the cores.

what do u get with 3.2GHz with 1.3875V at 100% load?

Wraps arms around his E6850 and squeezes.

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Damn thats kewl.

So what steps do i take now, i dont have any thermal paste stuff here atm?

Squallff8aus writes...

what do u get with 3.2GHz with 1.3875V at 100% load?
72, 68, 68 and 72 degrees celcius!

PeteyPete, have u tried lowering the voltage? my one works with 1.335v (one below 1.35V) with the cpu at 3.2GHz. but not sure if its 100% stable yet. still prime95-ing.

King Koopa writes...

So what steps do i take now, i dont have any thermal paste stuff here atm?

run 4 prime95 on each of the 4 cores and see how high it goes. if one of the cores goes over 75-ish stop the test.

u could consider getting anotehr cooler and apply arctic silver as thermal paste. but u should relaly be ok with the stock cooler if u're not OCing =\

go into bios and see if u can lower the voltage a bit. i think most Motherboards will run at 1.3V by default. u can probably get away with 1.25v or there abouts if u keep the cpu clock speed at 2.4V.

You will need some paste. get it ASAP and remove the heatsink. ( but they can be bloody tricky on the LGA775. I broke one clip on my stock cooler . can be stubborn.

Be careful as the clips can be fragile. Its easier to do it with board removed.
or purchase an aftermarket Performance cooler. that will make your Quad run sweet.

EDIT -

Beaten by that much.

Ok but either way its not going to blow up on me? The motherboard im using is a GA- N650I SLI i ran the cpu stress test and ram test with it, was on testing on core 0 and 1 and the temps went to like 86 degrees i just stopped it

Bluboy.6554 writes...

heatsink.

U mean the Fan or what?

I smell smoke.

King Koopa writes...

was on testing on core 0 and 1 and the temps went to like 86 degrees i just stopped it

yeah. sounds way too high. i thought the motherboard was suppose to slow down your cpu at that temp... but anyway, try reseating the HSF again, if that doesn't work u'll need another cooler.... probably......

btw..... what case r u using? does it have good air flow? is the inside of the case all clogged up with wires?

Antec 900 with a Thermaltake 750w Cable Management

King Koopa writes...

U mean the Fan or what?

yes the fan Look, if you are after a good Heat sink and fan, then get one like this or one similar.
it will do the job well.

With this setup I am running my E6850 @ 18 degrese during the day idle. and thats at 3.6ghz.

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What is that the Zalman one?

yeah, 9700...

www.xbitlabs.com/article...ltra120ex_5.html <<-- performances of different HSF

You should be fine with the stock HSF though (temps should not go that high unless you OC with stock HSF). Check it again to see if it is seated properly. In the day, buy some thermal paste and re-apply. You only need a small amount. Open up your case and make absolutely sure nothing is restricting air flow.

Well im gonna try and re set the stock fan thats with it, see if that fixes it. see the temps now at still 69 57 67 58

Well i have all fans set to high with the door off.

Having the door on would be more beneficial...

Really?

Squallff8aus writes...

1.335v (one below 1.35V) with the cpu at 3.2GHz. but not sure if its 100% stable yet. still prime95-ing.

What mobo? At stock (2.4GHz with 1.325vcore) the load temps are very low at 60, 54, 54 and 58 degrees celcius, respectively.

{dmb} PeteyPete writes...

What mobo?

asus p5k deluxe here. u?

King Koopa writes...

Really?

having the dorr open means that the fans have access to the air outside the case. if u don't have good air flow for the case then leaving the case open is a good idea.

if the case has good air flow the difference should be very little whether you leave the door open or not.

I think the maximum temp for a Q6600 105W is 62.2C, so keep it under that.

I think Core Temp or Intel TAT are accurate at determining these temps.

When you see different temps for different cores that probably means some cores are being utilised more than others.

If you have a suitable case ( big, roomy and very well ventilated )and you have attached the processor heatsink correctly and locked down all pins properly it should hopefully be OK.

Things you can FU on:

TIM (thermal interface material) too thick and not applied correctly.

Pins are not locked down correctly, or one pin is sitting up very slightly when you think they are all locked down correctly, re-check your work.

Case is not ideal.

Has anyone here experienced any video anomalies ?

On boot up I get a strange video problem where the screen looks like it is all a herringbone pattern, anyone experienced this.

This is on a E6600 Core 2 DUO.

M3Zephyer writes...

I think the maximum temp for a Q6600 105W is 62.2C, so keep it under that.

thats the chip surface temperature though according to www.intel.com/design/pro...ashts/315592.htm

it supposedly measured at the center of the chip. i'm talking about page 75 of the article

On boot up I get a strange video problem where the screen looks like it is all a herringbone pattern, anyone experienced this.

that used to happen to me when i was using my dfi expert mobo with a ati x1800xt. a bios update fixed it.

Ok soon as i closed the Poker game i had opened up it dropped straight to 57, i opened it back up and it shot upto 73 is this correct, what is it meant to run at with programs going?

King Koopa writes...

Just wanted to check this out, not sure what there even meant to be.

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These temps are about right considering your using the stock heatsink.

Don't waste your money buying inferior heatsinks, just buy a Ultra120 extreme.

www.pccasegear.com/prod4260.htm

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Don't these CPU's come with a plastic layer that needs removing prior to install?

Squallff8aus writes...

asus p5k deluxe here. u?

Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R

HoPeFuLLL writes...

Don't these CPU's come with a plastic layer that needs removing prior to install?

Yes!

The retail heatsinks are very poor, this image shows a 24C difference between the retail heatsink and the best.

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david256 writes...

this image shows a 24C difference between the retail heatsink and the best.

Where's the CoolerMaster GeminII?!

{dmb} PeteyPete writes...

Where's the CoolerMaster GeminII?!

Your joking aren't you, that things huge.

images.anandtech.com/gra...750452/14549.png

I'll keep my Ultra120, thanks anyway.

HoPeFuLLL writes...

Don't these CPU's come with a plastic layer that needs removing prior to install?

I didnt see any plastic layer on it?

possibly on top of the thermal pad? It just seems strange to have a pre applied thermal pad with no protection.

FFS i just took the stock fan off and reinstalled everything, now the temps are all at 66 to 79 thats all CORES not just one. there all jumping at the same time, like there using all four cores or somthing...

Did u plug your heat sink fan into your mobo?

tekNique writes...

Did u plug your heat sink fan into your mobo?

How could i miss that its a huge fan that sits on top on the cpu? i dunno whats up with it they temps are now 59 not doing much on the computer tho...

I just bought a new system and tried over clocking my q6600 to 3ghz and 2.8ghz my sytem restarted twice and the system restarted with the deafult 2.4ghz. I then increased the FSB slight to 2.5ghz and when i logged into windows my temps were 60-68. Any one know why its so hot with such low oc? i left the voltage to auto.

This is my system:
q6600
ds3 Pro
2gb DD2 800mhz (A-data)
thermaltake tough power 600w
8800gtx ultra
cpu fan is a golden orb 2 ( i think)
thermaltake armor case

I cant even get my new rig to start (sigh) Its also has a Q6600

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Could really use some help in this thread> forum-replies.cfm?t=788868&p=-1

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swiFt. writes...

im going for the E6850 instead.

I've seen a few temps with the E6750 and E6850, I believe they read 10 - 20 degrees lower than actual temps. Becareful of those screenshots because there is something that causes Coretemp, TAT, Speedfan etc to read incorrectly.

CPU temp [ 29-30’C / 86’F]
MoBo temp [28-30’C /86’F
CPU Fan Speed 1700RPM (give or take 100

Is that ok for a Q6600 just sitting in BIOS ?

Also, while trying to install the OS I get this >
“This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk, ensure that the disks controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu”

What do I have to do to
"enable the disks controller" ? I have no Idea, also are those temps ok for a Q6600 And P5K MOBO?

RAM = 4GB (2x2) 800mhz 5-5-5-15
HS = ThermalTake Ultra 120 eXtream (with 120mm fan at 1700RPM )
GPU 8800GTX

Squallff8aus writes...

thats the chip surface temperature though according to

Are you 100% sure about that ?

If you use Intel TAT, it is reading those temps from the digital thermal sensors located at the cores, being located at the cores and because they are digital makes them more accurate than the thermal diode (IHS) which is farther away and not as reliable as a means to measure temperature.

Intel started using these digital thermal sensors because the thermal diode wasn't good enough at determining the temperatures at the core.

Which is what makes me believe that my assumptions are correct.

Crisisfour writes...

CPU temp [ 29-30’C / 86’F]
MoBo temp [28-30’C /86’F

Sounds alright i guess

Im running Stock intel cooler (until i get my fan) and im getting 45/42 at idle in TAT

Kheng writes...

TAT
? what is tat

What program can I use that will tell me the temps when at idle and underload.
Because the only way I know how to check temps is through BIOS and that doesnt help as the there is nothing (OS/Games) running
Whats the best program to DL (will it run on Vista64bit, not much does)

Crisisfour writes...

? what is tat

TAT is Intel's Thermal Analysis Tool. It will easily get the CPU hotter than any other program will, and it monitors temperatures. Some people say CoreTemp is more accurate at measuring temps, so I'd download that too.

TAT download:
www.overclock.net/downlo...9-intel-tat.html

CoreTemp download:
www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp

Core Temp works on Windows 2000, XP and 2003 (both 32bit and 64bit versions).
not vista?

It would seem that neither of those programs works for the Q6600

Crisisfour writes...

not vista?

Works fine in Vista for me.

James01 writes...

Works fine in Vista for me.

Same.

If you're using VIsta 64bit, you need to disable Driver signature when starting your computer pressing f8.

Dr. Zoidberg writes...

If you're using VIsta 64bit, you need to disable Driver signature when starting your computer pressing f8.

do I need to do that to
Install the program?
or
Everytime I want to use it?

You need to do it to run the program.

It only needs to be done once and you can run the program as much as you want.

Jigsta writes...

Well usually it comes *with* your CPU (applied to heatsink?) when you buy it. It increases surface to surface contact with your heatsink (fills in the minute grooves and imperfections).

Questions on thermal paste, does it stick like glue? What if you want to upgrade your CPU, does that come off easily?

Thermal paste provided with Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is that good enough?

King Koopa writes...

Just wanted to check this out

You seem to have your FSB overclocked.... and a lower multiplier. Whether that makes any difference to temps, I'm not 100% sure.

Alan

Alan L writes...

You seem to have your FSB overclocked.... and a lower multiplier. Whether that makes any difference to temps, I'm not 100% sure.

I tried this on my e6600 and it seemed to lower temps but sometimes I would get overclocking failed etc. I raised the multiplier to 11 (Mine is unlocked) and then lowered the FSB a bit to notice high temps but a stable platform. I now have it at the standard multiplier of 9 with total clock at 3300mhz from 2400mhz.

I normally run dual instances of Pime95 to check stability.

Regards,
Matt

Dennis writes...

Questions on thermal paste, does it stick like glue? What if you want to upgrade your CPU, does that come off easily?

Just removed a Big Typhoon from my friends CPU yesterday, we were taking everything out of his case to use a dremel to cut a hole at the top and install a fan and fan grill. Came off easy, the thermal paste should still be kind of wet. We then used a dampened cloth to remove it from the Typhoon and a tissue to remove from CPU. You have to clean it up real well to get the best interface between the two.

Thermal paste provided with Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is that good enough?

I would suggest always going for something quality like Arctic Silver 5 because they're a known and respected brand. I was thinking of purchasing a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Noctua S12-120 1200.

Regards,
Matt

Matt Hare writes...

Arctic Silver 5

I tend to use the Arctic MX-1... though now that MX-2 is coming around... >:)

Alan

Ok a ran core temp.
(Vista 64bit - Q6600)
All the core show up as

"100'C (?)"

Now I know it isnt actualy that temp, and I didnt not press F8 while starting up.

Does the program just not work, or should I press F8 while starting?

Stick your index finger on the heatsink, if you can't keep it there then it's getting a bit hot. If you have a temperature sensor somewhere try stick that on the hottest part of the heatsink closest to the CPU.

Regards,
Matt

Alan L writes...

You seem to have your FSB overclocked

I Doubt that, i don't know how to overclock?

Crisisfour writes...

All the core show up as

"100'C (?)"

Now I know it isnt actualy that temp, and I didnt not press F8 while starting up.

Does the program just not work, or should I press F8 while starting?

Yep, you need to disable Driver signature as i said earlier.

YOu need to startup pressing f8 and disable Driver signature there.

Same thing happened to me, all cores were showing up as 100c before i disabled Driver signature

Matt Hare writes...

Came off easy, the thermal paste should still be kind of wet. We then used a dampened cloth to remove it from the Typhoon and a tissue to remove from CPU.

So it is not like gluey material. I was thinking of it in such terms.

Dr. Zoidberg writes...

Yep, you need to disable Driver signature as i said earlier.

YOu need to startup pressing f8 and disable Driver signature there.

Same thing happened to me, all cores were showing up as 100c before i disabled Driver signature

I tryed pressing F8, but it just brought up a list of boots... Ie. Safe mode/ other safe modes, and when I run core temp it still says "drivers failed" and " all 100c"

If you are using any of the GIGABYTE boards like i am (GA-N680SLI-DQ6)

Disable the CPU fan control in bios - ie turn off smart control - bloody thing makes the CPU fan rotate at 650RPM instead of leaving it running nonstop @ 2000RPM

Reduce the voltage from AUTO to 1.2V - 1.3V or thereabouts

this reduced my cores from showing average 60C across all 4 cores to avg 40C

am using stock intel fan! nonoverclock straight out of box.