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I just so happened to bump into this phone on the net 1 day after my old Sony Ericsson ran into some mishaps and wanted to buy it...but when does it come out in Australia? And does anybody know the approximate price?

No pricing info yet, all the info I can find says 'early July' so expect it soon-ish perhaps. Looks like a nice phone, I'll have to see it in person to decide if I'm going to get one or not.

very nice phone indeed and possibly the best feature being the twin screens.
it is based on the v6 design , but has apparently been strengthened with internal steel frame etc.
release date in oz? anyone's guess, but assuming it is similar to the v6, then there isn't too much new to challenge the tech police
august, september? let's hope

why don't telstra just come clean and announce about 5 new handsets to bolster their spindley next g line up? that'll give us all a boost;)

Aim for Mid-Late August.

The software basis is from the V6, the Hardware side is completely new.

It has a HUGE LCD on the front.

Awww....I don't wanna wait for that long...but I guess I have to. Do you think that I can get the phone for around $40 a month on a 24 month contract? Or would it be slightly more expensive?

Rumours of Z9 and first pic has surfaced, I like the look of that more. Anyways, i still think they should've used Linux on V9 like on V8

alin13 writes...

Rumours of Z9 and first pic has surfaced

do you mean the z6?
justamp.blogspot.com/search?q=motorola+z9

what other news is there, is it a 850MHz HSDPA?

blibster writes...

do you mean the z6?
justamp.blogspot.com/search?q=motorola+z9

No, i do mean Z9

www.mobile-review.com/fu..._eng.shtml#14723

hmmmm, ok, not really on subject and those tiny buttons are awful.
i don't think the lack of linux is going to kill the v9
i reckon the v9 will sell masses coz it has killer looks and is so much better than the current flippers from moto.
UI ain't gonna matter a stuff to most buyers

V9 and Z9 will be HSDPA and both have UMTS850 support (you'll most likely see both from Telstra first in Australia)

blibster writes...

and those tiny buttons are awful

It's only a tactile feel so that you can use it without actually looking at the buttons. They aren't literally the buttons you have to press.

blibster writes...

i don't think the lack of linux is going to kill the v9
i reckon the v9 will sell masses coz it has killer looks and is so much better than the current flippers from moto.
UI ain't gonna matter a stuff to most buyers

Not saying it will kill it, despite the dodgy menu, RAZR still sold like hot cakes. However for users like us here, who are more into technology than just the design, we'd love to see it run Linux OS and be able to multi task. But then again, i guess that's where N76 comes in.

alin13 writes...

be able to multi task

What do you expect your phone to do?

RogueX5 writes...

What do you expect your phone to do?

I like being able to start sms, leave it there, go make a phone call and may be look at gallery or call records before going back to sms. Basically i like the ability to switch to different task without having to close the current one.

Does anyone know which Telstra Shops have stock of this phone. I'm keen to buy one tomorrow.

Telstra are sending them out via courier as of now, so if no joy in a store perhaps try over the phone?

got one last night.. awesome phone.

tested the mp3 this morning on the bus, good but buttons are touchy on front screen

phone is bigger and heavier than would possibly like

as said in other thread , only one camera, if you want to see you as well as the other person when video calling you need to close the phone and use the exterior screen ( which was pointed out is why it is larger than normal )

a great looking phone but would like it more if it had some of the nokia (6120) gadgets in it

glad i didnt pay full price for it though, but will keep it for awhile

Just as a matter of interest so I can compare, what features does the Nokia 6120 have that the Motorola V9 is missing. I am still trying to decide.

lauzzie writes...

what features does the Nokia 6120 have that the Motorola V9 is missing. I am still trying to decide

a few gadgety things like when someone calls it says their name and also it can read smses, the second camera

the nokia download trial thing is good too thru the applications download section on the phone

nokia maps

if only it was a bit bigger or a flip i would never have changed

Thanks heaps. With your V9 I heard that you can read your messages on the front screen without opening the flip. Is this correct. Apparently it says this in the little starters guide you get with it - its one of the first paragraphs but havent heard that you can actually do that? Have you tried yet. Thanks

I am interested in buying this phone outright without being branded by a phone company.

Anyone have any idea on when i will be able to buy it? and how much it will cost?

Thanks guys

You can buy it outright from the Telstra Shop for around $800 but I think it will still have the logo on it and it may be still locked to Telstra. I was told that the Telstra shop get exclusively for 2 months before it goes to other retailers.

lauzzie writes...

that you can read your messages on the front screen without opening the flip. Is this correct. Apparently it says this in the little starters guide you get with it

i threw away the quick start guide and the manual doesnt mention it (that i can find) i just sent a message to myself and cant see how you would do it?? happy to be told different

drahcir writes...

i just sent a message to myself and cant see how you would do it?? happy to be told different

The V9 does not support that functionality at present.

lauzzie writes...

but I think it will still have the logo on it and it may be still locked to Telstra.

It's not locked to Telstra but without UMTS2100 support it won't do 3G on any other network in Australia.

You will however get 2G coverage.

Lauzzie, it does say in the v9 quick guide that you can open recent calls (which i worked out, play music - again I worked out) but still havent worked out how to read the messages without opening the flip....... stay tuned

Hi mishka_girl70 I have worked out how to play music without opening the flip but how do you open recent calls without opening the flip. Could you guide me through it. Thanks so much.

My eye is kinda sliding towards the v8 now, i was just wondering if you guys could tell me the differences between them or if you know of a site that could tell me, Oh and is the v8 already out?

Thanks

Just thought I'd chime in on the v9. I got mine this Monday, and having been a Nokia user since forever, this phone is pretty damned good. There's a few quirks, but it's pretty solid and - dare I say it - very usable.

I too haven't figured out how to use messages on the touch screen - it says you can do it, the manual says refer to the Quick Start, the Quick Start has nothing about it at all. I think this must be a v8 feature, at least at present.

Other quirks and omissions, and thoughts that may have answers:

* When it goes to 'sleep' with white clock on black background, it doesn't show you if you've missed calls or messages. Would be useful.

* No icon at the top for missed calls, only messages. Missed calls are mashed into Received Calls, only with a different icon. Bearable, but a Missed Calls list would have been very useful.

* Had a weird thing where someone called me and left a voicemail. I got the message from Voicemail, but the phone did not mention there was a missed call after I'd dismissed the first message (it did list it in the received calls list as missed though). Tested a call and then SMS last night and it listed the call after the message, so I'm not sure what happened there.

* Phone keeps changing ringtone profiles when connected or disconnected from power or computer. Weird!

* No way on the phone to mass copy contacts to or from the SIM that I could find. Ended up using the PC software to transfer, fix up, delete and retransfer contacts.

* Not all text entries are set up with iTAP (predictive) and TAP (non-predictive) options to start with

* Dictionary learning is weird. Can't figure out how to teach it a new word except for spelling it via TAP entry, and even then it's automatic... wonder why there's no spell option?

Anyway, those are only moot points. Some could be solved by a firmware update, others I just live with :)

Overall though, the phone is pretty damned solid. I really like it.

Oh, and I hope that I can eventually figure out how to replace that bloody Telstra picture on the external screen when calling.

Hi DarkOwl, just a few things to help you. I have had the motorola V3 for ages and it always showed the M (motorola) sign on the front flip and I could never get rid of it either and it looks like this one might be the same. We are stuck with Telstra signage.

* When it goes to 'sleep' with white clock on black background, it doesn't show you if you've missed calls or messages. Would be useful

With regards to when your phone goes to sleep. There are two things that help. Firstly, if you miss a call or a text your phone will send you a reminder ring every six minutes until you open the flip. In settings you can change what tone you get.

Secondly, if your phone has gone to sleep and you dont no if you've missed calls or messages just push the bottom button on the left hand side of the phone and it will say '1 missed call' or '1 new message'. (Do this without opening the flip). Then you can press the same button again to unlock the screen and it will show you who call was from. (Still haven't worked out how to read a message on front flip).

Phone keeps changing ringtone profiles when connected or disconnected from power or computer. Weird!

This is perfectly normal. When you plug your phone in to charge it will automatically change to 'Loud' and if it rings while it is on charge it will ring with the preset tone for that setting, but as soon as you unplug it from charge it will revert back to your chosen settings.

No way on the phone to mass copy contacts to or from the SIM that I could find. Ended up using the PC software to transfer, fix up, delete and retransfer contacts.

With mass copying I think all you need to do is mark everything you want to copy first and then it will copy all as I did this when I copied all my contact from my V3 to my V9. It only took a minute. I would have gone crazy if I had had to do them individually.

Dictionary learning is weird. Can't figure out how to teach it a new word except for spelling it via TAP entry, and even then it's automatic... wonder why there's no spell option?

Yes dictionary learning is definitely weird but this dictionary is soooooo much better than the V3. That was a nightmare learning to use and this pales in comparison but it is VERY different from the Nokias.

I hope some of this helps you with those problems and if you eventually work out the message reading on the outside flip I would be most interested.

lauzzie writes...

and if you eventually work out the message reading on the outside flip I would be most interested.

You guys can stop trying to read messages from the front flip. It doesn't have this feature. That feature is part of the V8 series (whole new OS).

As for the dictionary, start typing, once it gets to a stage where it can no longer continue. (ie. try teaching it Google) do the letters for Goo, press down until it appears as go, then press g, press down until it hits g, then do the letters for le, scroll down until it does le and it will now have learnt Google.

With the V9 out, when will they kick the old V3xx out onto prepaid? Also, the V8, any word on a release date?

nokism writes...

My eye is kinda sliding towards the v8 now, i was just wondering if you guys could tell me the differences between them or if you know of a site that could tell me, Oh and is the v8 already out?

"The RAZR2 V8 appears to be virtually the same as the 3G V9 handset except that it is 1mm thinner (2mm thinner than the original V3) and lacks a memory card expansion slot. Instead it stuffs in .5 or 2GB of built-in storage space."

Can any one tell me if the software on the V9 is simmilar to the V6 maxx?

Just ordered the motorola V9 online , its getting delivered on wednesday cant wait :-)

Just saw it in a Harvey Norman Catalogue,

It is $0 upfront on a $60 Telstra phone plan.
The plan is of course over 24 months, with a minimum cost of $1440 plus additional data and early exit fees do apply, what more could we expect from Telstra?

Is the V9 with telstra black cos on other sites on the net it shows it being a burgundy colour?

The Australian V9 only comes in Slate Grey at the moment. The one you are looking at is like a red/rust colour and you will probably find it is on American web sites through AT&T.

inside it looks black, outside it has a greeny tinge to it????

found how to use the music buttons without opening, cool,

Has anyone had any success getting accessories for the V9 yet. I cant find a car charger anywhere and the charger for my old V3 doesn't fit cause its a different connection (of course).

we dont have any at work thru our main area as yet, i thought we got a wireless headset in the kit, but we dont so want to get one soon, they are a bit pricey though

Any way to remove the external Telstra wallpaper from the phone? Can remove the internal wallpaper but the external one stays Telstra until you flip it closed.

If i order a v9 from the states will it work here?

Ok cool thanks guys i prefer the australian V9 colour then the US one.

Sojourner writes...

Can remove the internal wallpaper but the external one stays Telstra until you flip it closed

You could change the V3 external screen wall paper by replacing a file in the phones non-user memory. Maybe its the same deal with a V9

Hi Ben, I have both the V3 and the V9. Could you please describe how to do this on the V3 so I can have a play with the V9. Thanks

This is going back a while.... using the USB data cable and a small program I downloaded called "P2KTools" and the file is called "cl.gif"

The one you replace it with has to be below a certain size, both in kilobytes and I *think* 76x76 pixels.

I found this forum to be useful:

www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=101

It'll be in there somewhere, but you are looking for a file called cl.gif

Good luck and don't try and update the flash / flex of your phone, I almost killed mine in the process.

Edit: My V8 should be here next week so let me know what you find!!

Hi all,

Has anyone had any success setting up the V9 for the 3 network....

Can't get MMS and access to Planet 3 to work..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Hi all,

Has anyone had any success setting up the V9 for the 3 network....

Can't get MMS and access to Planet 3 to work..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

anyone worked out how to get the back cover off??

To get the back cover off, you just need to push it up (towards the hinge). It's just held in by force, as far as I can tell.

Also, I got rid of the ugly arsed Telstra logo on the outer screen. Here's how (and you do so at your own risk, naturally):

* Grab a copy of your favourite P2K program. I used P2K Commander 4.9D. It's hideously slow and unstable if you poke it whilst it's thinking, but it got the job done.

* With the phone connected and the P2K software loaded (I'd also previously installed the Motorola software from the included CD, which had drivers, before I connected for the first time), navigate to the A folder (phone), then the Phone folder inside that, if I remember rightly. Be patient whilst it retrieves a list of files. P2K Commander crashed on me if I dismissed the message that comes up.

* Select the cl.gif file from the list, and download it (if you want to back it up). I renamed mine cl-telstra.gif once it was on my computer, and then I put it back on the phone for safekeeping.

* Create your own 240x320 GIF file, call it cl.gif

* Delete the cl.gif on the phone

* Copy your new one across

* Restart the phone

Et voila, no more glowing advertisements for Telstra :) Well, except for the screen printed logo on the backplate, but that's less attention-seeking.

DarkOwl writes...

To get the back cover off, you just need to push it up (towards the hinge). It's just held in by force, as far as I can tell.

well there you go, i tried everything except that haha, thanks

If i order a v9 from the states will it work here?

or do i have to get it from telstra? and if i do buy it outright from telstra will it be full of telstra crap?

nokism writes...

and if i do buy it outright from telstra will it be full of telstra crap?

Will be full of Telstra crap, the V9 from the states will be full of AT&T crap.

Can't win =P

Define "crap" please so I know what I'm getting for free or missing out on or have to put up with..

nothing removed, just Telstra branding + a few of their apps (bigpond music player etc)

RogueX5 writes...

Will be full of Telstra crap, the V9 from the states will be full of AT&T crap.

Can't win =P

Bugga lol guess i will just wait til it can be bought from else where

also which one has the linux OS is it the v8, v9 or v9m?

v8

thanks m8

Though the v8 is not a 3G phone - just in case you were wondering :)

like the look of this phone. its got everything i care about - mini usb interface for charging and data, memory expansion, a2dp... thats bout it.

however i want to know if anyone knows this: is there any navigation software that you can get to install on it? or any phone thats not wm5 or symbian?

I also have a few more questions for people who have the V9...

I used to have a motorola clamshell it was the black one that looked kinda like a bubble lol can't remember the model number at the moment, the thing that annoyed me the most about it was the delay between when i pressed a button to when the phone reacted just wondering if the V9 does the same thing cos i have heard they improved the reaction time.

Also, am i able to install software on the V9? like my current phone is an N73 and i have a program on it that allows me to set as many alarms as i want which is quite handy, and if i get the V9 i would probably try to find an application that does something similar.

I'm also curious to know from the people who own one, on a scale from 1 - 10 how do you rate it and what are your pros and cons?

If you don't want to clutter this forum with your replies please whim them to me.

Thanks guys.

OK people. The V9m is NOT and I repeat NOT EVER coming to australia.

It's a CDMA phone. Remember which network is being switched off in Jan next year?

That's right, CDMA....

It's NOT COMING HERE.

Hi Nokism. I got the V9 1 week ago after upgrading from the original V3. I am very happy with it. The response time when you hit a key is immediate. To log onto internet, bigpond etc. is extremely fast - much better than V3. The only thing I find is missing is its a shame there is no radio in it. Its not really a feature I use alot but my husband loves having a radio in his mobile phone. Its much easier to see the time when the flip is closed and the screen has shut down as the numbers are huge and stand out even without being lit up. It is easy to transfer ring tones, songs, pictures etc and the screen quality is excellent. The feature of being able to listen to music without opening the flip is great. There are a couple of things in the instruction book that it doesnt do which is a shame but all in all I am very happy.

nokism writes...

i have a program on it that allows me to set as many alarms as i want which is quite handy

The v9 has native support for multiple alarms :)

I'd give it a solid 8.5 out of 10. It's a pity that it's not the new OS or UI as per the Razr2 v8, it has a few 'missing' features such as external screen SMS replies and so on... which is a real shame. But it is fast, and very responsive. Something that Nokia's new E and N series phones could learn from...

There's a few bits that are niggly, and many bits that are pure awesome.

The finger-print absorbing shell gives obsessive compulsives something to do, too :)

Overall though, having used it for ~a week so far, very happy with it.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

OK people. The V9m is NOT and I repeat NOT EVER coming to australia.

then why is it in Australia?

How do you set default number for a contact?

nokism writes...

then why is it in Australia?

The v9 is. The v9m is not, at least not unless it's being imported.

Also, I don't think you specify a favourite number - it just remembers the last dialled. Might be wrong though.

I just recived my v9 today wicked phone.
Im having one problem though, I cant find out how to play music and watch videos on the external screen?

nokism writes...

then why is it in Australia?

Show me a V9 that uses the CDMA network in Australia and I'll have your children.

Wait, no I won't. CDMA is inferior.

And what's the use of getting a CDMA phone here, seeing as the CDMA network will be closing start of next year?

Has anyone made a side-by-side comparison between the Nokia 6120 and Moto V9?

These 2 seem to be the only viable Next G phones at the moment. I'm leaning towards the V9 as the 6120 looks like a cheap piece of crap with small buttons I can't use. Pity, I've had 4 Nokia's in the past and didn't think I'd go for a different brand.

I can't say I've used the 6120, but if it's anything like the current Nokia range, it's pretty bulky (seems about the same size as an E65) and laggy.

My previous phone was a 7270, before that a 6100, 8250 and 6150. So yeah, I was apprehensive about getting a Motorola because I've never been a fan of their UI. But it's actually pretty good. A few things are a bit odd (or not there), but nothing is a show stopper.

Hi Lauzzie, Sorry for delay in response. When you have a missed call it shows you the number when you click the button on the lh side of phone with the flip closed

HACKERMAN, to flick through music from front screen of V9:

You press the smart key down to unlock external keys.

Press smart key again and it will put the menu on screen. To glide up and down menu press top 2 buttons, use smart key again to select.

I choose songs and then you flick through music using the front screen touch buttons. Easy once you have done it once Hackerman :)

Hi Guys. Another question about the V9. Has anyone figured out how to make it ring for more than 15 seconds before it goes to message bank. On the Nokias you used to be able to set how long it rang for before it diverted and I am sure my Motorola V3 rang for longer than this. Please help as 15 seconds isnt always long enough for me to get to the phone.

I think you call Telstra to set the diversion time. I use to work for an Optus mobile network and we use to change customer diversions. 30 secs was the max for us but Telstra may be different.

lauzzie writes...

Hi Nokism. I got the V9 1 week ago after upgrading from the original V3.

Is the software (for your PC) better than the terrible thing that came with the V3, or is it just an "updated" version?

Hey there,

If you input *61*101**30# then hit the call button, the ringtime will extend to the network maximum (in theory, about 30 seconds). This is for Telstra mobiles - but substitute 101 for 321 on Optus, 121 on Vodafone or 333 on 3 and you'll get the same result! And it saves a nice long call to customer service. :-)P

Alt just change the call divert settings in your phone's call setting menu. I blieve its No Reply (can't remember atm) that sets the time to divert

Would other V9 owners please tell me whether the reminder 'Beep' the phone makes if you ignore a message or missed call is a short loud beep sound (like every other Razr I've ever owned). My V9 is making a barely audible little blip, which is quite useless.

Mine makes a sort of low "brrrrrb brrrrrb" sound, not really a beep.

@roadrage & Darkowl

Hello, can either of you tell me about the PC software that came with your V9? Is it an updated version of the crappy V3 software, or a completely new program?

Cheers,
Yabbie

Hi everyone. I figured out how to make the phone ring for more than the preset 15 seconds. For anyone thats interested:
Go to Settings / Call Diverts / Voice Calls.
On Voice calls hit the right hand arrow key and you will see all the call details. Scroll down to time delay and you set it from anywhere between 5 seconds and 30 seconds. Thanks for all the help.

Yabbie writes...

Hello, can either of you tell me about the PC software that came with your V9? Is it an updated version of the crappy V3 software, or a completely new program?

It's an updated version of the old Motorola Phone Tools software. It's better than it used to be, but can still be a little 'twitchy'. I only use it sync my Outlook Calendar and backup my phonebook and it does that well enough.

DarkOwl writes...

Mine makes a sort of low "brrrrrb brrrrrb" sound, not really a beep.

Thanks. That's probably the same sound mine is making. It's certainly not the very audible "Beep" noise all my previous Razrs made.

what colors does the v9 come in??? and can u use it as a gps device if u hook it up to a bluetooth reciever???

The v9 is currently Telstra only and comes in a sort of dark slate grey (not the red as you see for the US AT&T model). That is the only colour here, unless sourced from an overseas seller.

roadrage writes...

It's an updated version of the old Motorola Phone Tools software.

Thanks for letting me know.

roadrage writes...

That's probably the same sound mine is making. It's certainly not the very audible "Beep" noise all my previous Razrs made

mine is loud, you can change it

found out the annoying way that when wearing the ear pieces if you click the box type thing half way down the wires it calls the last called person, i clicked it several times before realising, my friend wasnt sure what was going on haha

speaker phone is another issue, people i have talked to say its not clear/crackly etc, but normal use is perfect??

drahcir writes...

mine is loud, you can change it

How do you change it?????

Keen to get my hands on one - I had a V3, V3x and V3i (the i was the favourite), so will be looking forward to it.

What's the interface like? Hopefully it's improved over the V3?

lauzzie writes...

How do you change it?????

Yeah, how do you change it? In ring style details, you can only make the Reminders "Beep", "Vibrate" or "Off". I can't find any way of actually assigning it a sound.

Jason Backshall writes...

What's the interface like? Hopefully it's improved over the V3?

The interface is virtually identical to the V3xx. I've had a V3, V3i and V3xx and this is the best of the lot - apart from my ongoing issue with the reminder Beep.

mishka_girl70 writes...

Easy once you have done it once Hackerman :)

Cheers thanks alot ;-)

roadrage writes...

Yeah, how do you change it? In ring style details, you can only make the Reminders "Beep", "Vibrate" or "Off". I can't find any way of actually assigning it a sound

sorry guys you are right, thats the only options, mine is loud though and i can hear it quite clearly ,

Hi everyone. I have just made an interesting discovery quite by accident. I have also been putting up with the pathetic 'Beep' sound the phone makes for reminders. I have always had my phone set on Vibrate & Ring but today I changed it to loud and even though in the settings the reminder is still set to beep, when it actually plays it is extremely loud. I then tried it on Vibrate then Ring and it gives you a different sound again. To test just ring yourself with your home phone and dont answer it and wait 6 minutes to see if you get different alerts to. Let me know if its the same.

Also got the phone last week. Upgraded from a V3 when it first came out. I'm loving the V9 except for the dirty finger marks left on it.

Thanks to everyone on providing the tips on removing the telstra pic, and extending the divert timer. Very handy :)

Raima writes...

Thanks to everyone on providing the tips on removing the telstra pic,

Hi Raima. Did the tips for removing the Telstra Pic work and was it difficult. I havent attempted it yet because I am afraid of doing something to stuff up the phone. Did you just replace the Telstra pic with a picture you liked or do you have to leave it blank.

I'm yet to try it as I'm still at work. Will prolly try it tonight and let you know :)

Raima writes...

I'm yet to try it as I'm still at work. Will prolly try it tonight and let you know :)

Ok Thanks. While we are on the subject has anyone actually managed to removed the Telstra logo successfully yet?

hi guys,

got my v9 last week and loving it. my biggest problem is getting emails to send out through the phone. i configured my email account manually with my mail server and used mail.bigpond.com as the outgoing server but cannot seem to get a connection (i get some connection error). i can receive mail fine, just not send. i would use mye own mail server for outgoing messages if i could find an outgoing authentication section in the phone... seems kind of silly hey?

let me know if of you guys have any luck?!!

cheers guys,

ch0g

lauzzie writes...

While we are on the subject has anyone actually managed to removed the Telstra logo successfully yet?

Yep. It's not that difficult. Just follow the instructions earlier on in this thread or check the Motorola Modding threads on howardforums.com. There's an extensive thread on modding the V3xx which I used to get rid of all the Vodafone crap of my V3xx. It was the same procedure for the V9.

lauzzie writes...

I have always had my phone set on Vibrate & Ring but today I changed it to loud and even though in the settings the reminder is still set to beep, when it actually plays it is extremely loud. I then tried it on Vibrate then Ring and it gives you a different sound again.

Interesting. Mine is the same. When it's set to Loud, the reminder 'Beep' is the 'Alert' sound. When it's back on Vibe & Ring, the reminder 'Beep' is the pitiful blip I've been complaining about. I've already taken one phone back because of this. I'm beginning to think it's just the way they are.

lauzzie writes...

While we are on the subject has anyone actually managed to removed the Telstra logo successfully yet?

Yep. I'm quite happily using my own logo now. I've also killed the Telstra Next G animations when booting up or powering down, in favour of a simple Motorola logo as I couldn't think of anything useful to put there. At least it's not Telstra ;)

I posted instructions about how it worked for me a few pages back in this thread. Just be patient with the software's slowness and you should be fine.

Now the only Telstra bits left on my phone are the T logo on the backplate and the T button on the keypad. I wonder if it's possible to get official backplates sans logo? Hmm...

hey darkowl,

what are the filenames for the animations? :P

cheers

ch0g

so are OPTUS supplying this phone??? even if its not on 3G???

Can this phone be used as a Bluetooth Modem?

I've managed to get it working via USB but i was wondering if you could set it up so that it connect to my Laptop via Bluetooth and then be used through that Bluetooth Connection as a modem?

Quote: so are OPTUS supplying this phone??? even if its not on 3G???

Not at this stage. But it -is- a three G handset. Telstra have just removed the 2100mhz option from the phone, the same as they have done with the V3xx and V6.

Ever notice how you can buy a V3xx from other carriers, and it does have 3G? That's because the phones hardware supports both 2100mhz and 850mhz. Telstra just disable the 2100mhz in favour of their NextG band, 850mhz.

NOT the GSM bands. The UMTS bands.

As for using a bluetooth modem, if you use Motorola Phone Tools set up with BT, then you should be able to fairly easily use it as a modem. It will make the dialup profile for you, and you can just click to connect.

Don't bother trying this with Vista though. Vista's bluetooth is horribly broken and doesn't work properly with this kind of connection.

AbZ- writes...

so are OPTUS supplying this phone??? even if its not on 3G???

Telstra have an exclusive distribution arrangement with Motorola, meaning that you won't find it anywhere else in Australia for the first few months.

Give it a while - it's a great phone, I'm sure the others will pick it up eventually.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

Ever notice how you can buy a V3xx from other carriers, and it does have 3G? That's because the phones hardware supports both 2100mhz and 850mhz. Telstra just disable the 2100mhz in favour of their NextG band, 850mhz.

NOT the GSM bands. The UMTS bands.

I'm not sure where you got that information but I'm using telstra V6 with my three simcard on three network.

ShArPeR writes...

I'm not sure where you got that information but I'm using telstra V6 with my three simcard on three network.

I bet you are just roaming on GSM. Because (from memory) 2100mhz UMTS is removed from the phone via software.

And btw... I get this info because I work in the support centre for Motorola AU and NZ.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

I bet you are just roaming on GSM. Because (from memory) 2100mhz UMTS is removed from the phone via software.

OK, I've asked this question elsewhere and didn't get an answer. Is the phone physically capable of 2100? There is a SEEM edit to show 2100 in the available network list, but will this actually get it operating on 2100?

roadrage writes...

Is the phone physically capable of 2100?

According to the Motorola US site - no.

Networks: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; WCDMA 850/1900

Removed the Telstra logo. Which file is the Next G animation? I want to remove that from the phone

roadrage writes...

OK, I've asked this question elsewhere and didn't get an answer. Is the phone physically capable of 2100? There is a SEEM edit to show 2100 in the available network list, but will this actually get it operating on 2100?

Yes. Australia uses a different set of networks than America. We don't touch the WCDMA 1900 band.. If you can seem edit this, PM me the details. I don't get passed anything interesting, and have to find stuff myself..

It should be able to use 2100mhz. The V6 from Optus can handle 2100mhz, but not 850mhz. All these handsets can be reflashed to other firmware, which gives you the ability to use whichever network you like. It's just Telstra's dodgy firmware that stops us using 2100mhz. All handsets that come into the country come through one place. Physically, and internally, the V6 you buy from optus is identical to the one you buy from Telstra. Just different software.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

Yes. Australia uses a different set of networks than America. We don't touch the WCDMA 1900 band.

The V9 sold here is physically identical to the V9 sold in the US, which doesn't support 2100.

It might be possible with a software upgrade down the track - who knows. But for the time being Motorola are stating that it doesn't come from the factory with support for 2100.

Jason Backshall writes...

The V9 sold here is physically identical to the V9 sold in the US, which doesn't support 2100.

Then why won't Moto support international handsets? The reason is this: they are -different!-

Americans are obsessed with CDMA and other stupid frequencies. The handsets are -not- the same. Trust me. I can give you a written statement from moto saying this.

really.

Jason Backshall writes...

The V9 sold here is physically identical to the V9 sold in the US, which doesn't support 2100.

Then why won't Moto support international handsets? The reason is this: they are -different!-

Americans are obsessed with CDMA and other stupid frequencies. The handsets are -not- the same. Trust me. I can give you a written statement from moto saying this.

really.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

Trust me. I can give you a written statement

Speaking with my contact at Motorola in Singapore - he's now confirmed that there's a US version, and an Asian/European version.

Funky. The Asian version offers 2100.

Smacky_Wolf writes...

It should be able to use 2100mhz. The V6 from Optus can handle 2100mhz, but not 850mhz. All these handsets can be reflashed to other firmware, which gives you the ability to use whichever network you like. It's just Telstra's dodgy firmware that stops us using 2100mhz. All handsets that come into the country come through one place. Physi