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Well, I start this thread for those who don't want to read through the long discussion topic just to find out the basic informations and also because there are quite a few separated threads asking about Xseries with non-branded phones or phones not in Three compatible list.

1- What if you have a non-branded 3G phone or 3G phone which is not in Three official supported handset list?
- You will not see X-series listed in the Value Packs in My3 Home. Even if you see it listed then you still cannot sign up for Xseries. You will get an error message "Your phone is not supported".

Solution: You need to call 3 Customer Care and ask the operator to add Xseries pack for you. They will tell you that your phone is not compatible, you cannot use all the features of Xseries, blah blah.... If you are happy with just all the features that your phone supported or just want to use the data service for internet access then you can just tell them that you are aware of that and you don't mind that you cannot use all the features, and just tell them to go ahead and sign you up.
You can call 3Care number 133320, it's 24h service so don't need to care about the number on Three Xseries website since it's not 24h service.

2- Is there any contract for Xseries?
- Xseries subscription is just a monthly subscription, and you can cancel your subscription at any time. There is no contract for Xseries subscription!!. When you request to cancel your Xseries subscription, you can still use it until the date your subscription ends since you have paid for it.

3- Any what kind of Xseries features can I expect if I don't have a compatible handset or a non-branded one?
- Non-branded handset will not have Three certificates, so you will not be able to install Yahoo Messenger and MSN Messenger. However, you can install and use 3rd party Messenger software. That will comes out of your included data usage for your Xseries plan. But it will not cost you much of data usage since it's just some text.
- Basic features with all 3G phones most of the services accessed using web browser will be available to all 3G phones. i.e Ebay, Bumper Pack, Cricket TV, Info, Entertainment Pack... and even Orb can be used with some non-compatible phones as well since you will access your file using your phone's web browser.

- Skype: As what I can see, the way 3 modified Skype client (actually it is a modified iSkoot client) works is similar to Web Call Back feature of some VoIP service provider (i.e PennyTel). When you make a Skype call, what happens is you will receive a calls from "Skype calls" number (+61430005332) (this number is added automatically when you install the Symbian Skype client) then you will hear a ringing tone waiting for the other person to pick up your Skype call.
Interesting thing: calling that "Skype Call" number will execute your last Skype call.

So what this modified Skype client does is submitting your phone number and the other person Skype ID to Three server, then Three server will generate the call and connect 2 calls. Your Skype calls does not actually happen in your Skype clients, it is purely a voice call from Three server, and the Skype client is just a Web Call Back submission form.
When someone calls your Skype, you will also receive a voice call from "Skype Call" number.

If you have a Symbian S60 v3 (Symbian OS 9.1) phones, then you can download Three Skype client and install to your phone (if your phone is not in compatible list then you will not see the Skype download link in Planet3 even though your phone has the same Symbian OS 9.1).
www.ozmobiles.net/Three/Skype.sisx
So if you have a N91, N80... mobile then YES you can use Skype with your phone, and this will be not counted toward your data usage but will be counted toward Skype minutes of your Xseries plan.

- PPC, Windows Mobile phone owner: So because of this nature of Skype call with Three, there will be no gateway or setting or whatsoever to input into your Windows Mobiles Skype client. Maybe you should wait until Three release a WebCallBack Skype client for Windows Mobile. :-)

So with only $20, I think it's not too bad since you can get a lots of services: checking weather, reading news, viewing movie trailers, checking movie sessions, ebay...etc... Mobile Mail is also included, so you can send and receive unlimited emails. For emails sending using your 3 Email account, I guess it is not counted toward your data usage, but emails sending using non-3 email accounts will be counted toward your data usage.

What if I go over my monthly quota?
- You will pay 10c per MB

Are uploads counted?
- Yes

What APN/connection should I use?
- 3services/Planet 3

sportback writes...

What APN/connection should I use?
- 3services

For what I have tried, I guess there's kind of proxy for 3services APN, 3netaccess is direct internet access. So if you want to make VoIP calls using SIP client and your 3G data connection (i.e using Fring) then you will need to select 3netaccess in Fring setting, 3services will not work with Fring.

is it possible to install the 3 certificates
so you can install the IM applications,

without branding it to 3........

How about the charge for APN between 3netaccess and 3services?
Are they all including in X-series' monthly data allocation?

Nautilus,

Thanks for your post, the explanations are great.

Cheers

sportback writes...

What if I go over my monthly quota?
- You will pay 10c per MB

If you go outside of your 'broadband zone' eg. roam to telstra gprs data is charged at $1.65/MB & is NOT part of your quota

Nautilus writes...

Solution: You need to call 3 Customer Care and ask the operator to add Xseries pack for you. They will tell you that your phone is not compatible, you cannot use all the features of Xseries, blah blah....

Has anyone actually got 3CC to do this for them? A friend tried and was told it can't be done without a compatible handset. I bet thers a few people out there who would like to use xseries just for the mobile data.
R.

rossinternational writes...

A friend tried and was told it can't be done without a compatible handset

Just don't tell them you have an incompatible handset :-)
It's called a little white lie- just say that you have the N73 or something- they don't know any better

lionsy writes...

It's called a little white lie

That doesn't answer my question, I want to know if anyone has got xseries activated without lying about having a compliment handset.
R.

lionsy writes...

It's called a little white lie- just say that you have the N73 or something- they don't know any better

Um your handset is attached to your account.

I just made a call to 3 india and was told nope you can't purchase X-Series you need a HSDPA handset.

and at the moment there is no X-Series handset that does the job that I need it to do.

Maybe the LG U830, but disappointing it does not have a memory card slot.

all I want is the mobile data and UMTS broadband speed, that will keep people in check that they don't go over their allowance, don't care about the other features of X-Series.

Netstats writes...

I just made a call to 3 india and was told nope you can't purchase X-Series you need a HSDPA handset.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Two of the four 'X-Series compatible' handsets on Three web site do not have HSDPA support (both Nokias).

Just tell them you've bought a Dopod D810 off Ebay or from a former Three customer, and you will be using it!

I just tried it and got added. I had to repeat that I didn't care that I wouldn't be able to use all of the features four times, but I got there in the end.

I'm not going to do any happy dances until I see X-series on my account summary, but I think that it will all be there :)

cowardly writes...

I just tried it and got added. I had to repeat that I didn't care that I wouldn't be able to use all of the features four times, but I got there in the end.

Good work, thats what I wanted to hear :)
It seems to be the usual story with 3CC, It depends who you get as everyone has a different story about what you can and can't do.
R.

Is there ways you can locked the phone to three's 3G only. I am really afraid the phone go into roaming while I am using data connection.

freedomc writes...

Is there ways you can locked the phone to three's 3G only. I am really afraid the phone go into roaming while I am using data connection.

Not unless you have access to non approved service manager program which can mod the network the network settings.

The only one I know of is for the following LG handsets which works both ways:

Make the handset UMTS only

Make the handset GSM only, and also change the GPRS class type A,B and C and which GSM signal to tune into (i.e.: GSM900, GSM1800 and GSM1900 not used here)

Class A is to have GSM 1800 voice and GPRS 1800 data
Class B is to have GSM 900 voice and GPRS 900 data (comes in very handy when roaming as you get greater signal distance)
Class C is to only have separate GSM 900 voice and GPRS data (basically when your on data you can't receive calls, similar to the Dopod 838 pro / jasjam handsets with the current firmware)

LG U890
LG U880
LG U300

Their might be similar software for Nokia and SE handsets, best place to try is gsmhosting.com and look in the sub forums for each handset maker.

Of course the service manager program is not approved for use by Three

thanks

Nautilus writes...

Skype: As what I can see, the way 3 modified Skype client (actually it is a modified iSkoot client) works is similar to Web Call Back feature of some VoIP service provider (i.e PennyTel).

I can receive calls whilst using Skype, but once I close the program, I can no longer receive calls. Is there something like a "minimise" function on the N73 so that it still runs in the background?

Oops... I just found the option. Answered my own question.

Wonder why the K800i isnt supported...it has HSDPA

macmanluke writes...

Wonder why the K800i isnt supported...it has HSDPA

No it doesn't...

macmanluke writes...

Wonder why the K800i isnt supported...it has HSDPA

huh

A mate of mine just got a dopod 810 on friday and signed up for the x-series silver pack in store as well. In the account management section of My3 it lists the silver pack correctly under the "my value packs" section, but whenever trying to go to google or ORB etc, a screen comes up saying you need to buy a value pack to access internet, but then when you click on the "sign up" link it goes to another page saying "you have already signed up for a pack click here to get started" which takes you back to the screen where you select google etc which then again takes you to the "you need to buy a pack" screen.

Just going around and around in circles... Anyone else had this happen? Any ideas?

scarecrow, was this within 24 hours of activation? Did he get the SMS saying web access is now enabled?

scarecrow writes...

Anyone else had this happen? Any ideas?

call 3 care 133320 they will fix it .. btw I never got the sms....

For Skype on X-Series, do you use up your Skype minutes allocation to both make and receive calls? Or just to make calls?

Chancellor Martok writes...

For Skype on X-Series, do you use up your Skype minutes allocation to both make and receive calls? Or just to make calls?

Allocation is deducted only if you MAKE calls.

Can you use skype out credit and skype in with the x series?

El Rooto writes...

Can you use skype out credit and skype in with the x series?

You cannot use skype out credit as yet on xseries but they are looking to enable this in the future

El Rooto writes...

Can you use skype out credit and skype in with the x series?

Can I use features such as SkypeOut, SkypeIn, Skype SMS or Skype video calls on my 3 mobile?
No. You can only make and receive Skype to Skype voice calls.

This is from xseries.three.com.au/xse..._knowledge.shtml

On another note ....
If you wish to do what you asked , you will have to download the Skype Application for PPC ( if you have that type of hardware ). In this case it will not count towards your "Skype time" but rather your data allowance.

You may consider installing a SIP application and have a look at Pennytel for VoIP calls ( search the VoIP sub-forum ) ... and better prices ... or Pennytels ANI callback feature.

Cheers

EDIT
I would like to add that "3" seem to have gone into a lot of detail about the service , functions , setup ... etc... for the X-series in the above link.
It may be worth looking at that first before posting questions here.

I haven't heard any confirmation from 3 about these features, but according to the Skype website, they hope to bring SkypeOut, text chat, caller ID to the Skype on 3 service sometime in 2007.

Chancellor Martok writes...

scarecrow, was this within 24 hours of activation? Did he get the SMS saying web access is now enabled?
He signed up on Friday but its still doing the same thing today. he never received an SMS (i dont think), but My3 shows xseries silver pack in the "my value packs" section

user40000 writes...

call 3 care 133320 they will fix it .. btw I never got the sms....
Tried calling 3 care on saturday... they said xseries support people arent in until business hours, so he will have to wait till monday.

Sherlock Holmes ! writes...

This is from xseries.three.com.au/xse..._knowledge.shtml

Thanks for that link, Sherlock, there's definitely good info there (unlike much of the rest of the 3 knowledge base)!

Please also add to the faq that on any of the hermes devices jasjam, dopod 838 pro there is a registry change available that will allow you to subscribe through my 3

I have a question... Will '3' be removing their existing $5/10mb offer? It suits me well :)

sportback writes...

Just tell them you've bought a Dopod D810 off Ebay or from a former Three customer, and you will be using it!

I just bought a Jasjam off Ebay. Should I tell them I have the jasjam and I don't if it's not compatible, I want it anyway, or should I just lie and tell them I actually have a Dopod D810?

Zan5hin writes...

I want it anyway, or should I just lie and tell them I actually have a Dopod D810?

Or you could change a simple line using a registry editor and be able to sign up yourself online through my three... (Seeing as the only difference is a string saying D810 and D838Pro)

webby writes...

No it doesn't...

oh GSM arena said it did...

MuZzA writes...

I have a question... Will '3' be removing their existing $5/10mb offer? It suits me well :)

X-Series is only supported on 4 of the 20 something handsets they offer, and the million or so sold in the past. The email/mobile web pack will stay for sure.
Besides, $5 for 10mb is much better value for 3 ;)

macmanluke writes...

Wonder why the K800i isnt supported...it has HSDPA

Maybe on Mars but not on Earth

macmanluke writes...

oh GSM arena said it did...

Where? I can't see it anywhere on this page:
www.gsmarena.com/sony_er...on_k800-1485.php

Besides GSM Arena make lot of mistakes. For example, They had Motorola RIZR Z8 as running S60 whereas it runs UIQ.

macmanluke writes...

oh GSM arena said it did...

It says nothing about HSDPA, it says the phone has HSCSD, which is totally different...

Here is a description below:
High-Speed Circuit-Switched Data (HSCSD), is a development of Circuit Switched Data (CSD), the original data transmission mechanism of the GSM network. HSCSD uses different coding methods and even multiple time slots to increase data throughput. It allows maximum transfer rates (using four time slots) up to 57.6 kbit/s and, even in the bad radio conditions will still lead to a four times speed increase over CSD

okay after reading this thread I am very confused...

Can non-compatible phones (for things like skype) still sign up to the pack?

Simeon Verzijl writes...

Can non-compatible phones (for things like skype) still sign up to the pack

According to 3, only the compatible phones can sign up.

Nokia N73
Nokia E65
Dopod D810
Lg U830

Some people have called 3 care to activate the pack when using non supported handsets. But that will likely mean all usage will come out of your data allowance.

Simeon Verzijl writes...

Can non-compatible phones (for things like skype) still sign up to the pack?

If you do sign up with a non-compatible phone, for Skype it will use your data allocation instead of your Skype minutes (this is because you can't install the official 3 Skype client on to non-compatible phones).

Simeon Verzijl writes...

okay after reading this thread I am very confused...

What ?!? still confused? I have made quite an extensive explanation and you are still very confused??

Can non-compatible phones (for things like skype) still sign up to the pack?
I think you mean that "you can sign up for X-series or not if you don't have a compatible phones", right? So I repeat this one more time, the answer is YES, I'm using Xseries now with my Optus N91. For other features that you are or are not able to use, just re-read my FAQ.

Chancellor Martok writes...

If you do sign up with a non-compatible phone, for Skype it will use your data allocation instead of your Skype minutes (this is because you can't install the official 3 Skype client on to non-compatible phones).

Not quite correct. If you have a Symbian S60 v3 (Symbian OS 9.1) phone but is not in compatible list, then you still can install Three Skype client, I have uploaded Three Skype client and put the link in my FAQ post. You can download and install that client and you will be able to use your Skype minutes. For all other phones which is not Symbian 9.1 platform (Windows Mobile platform, i.e Dopod...) then you need to use other Skype clients and it will use your data allocation since the Skype call will be made using that client not like when your are using Three client (you will receive a call back). Because of the nature of Three Skype client (WebCallBack), there is no work around for any other Skype clients.
Any other features like Yahoo, MSN messenger..., you need to re-read this FAQ.

Nautilus writes...

For what I have tried, I guess there's kind of proxy for 3services APN, 3netaccess is direct internet access. So if you want to make VoIP calls using SIP client and your 3G data connection (i.e using Fring) then you will need to select 3netaccess in Fring setting, 3services will not work with Fring.

Sorry for wrong information here, there is no proxy whatsoever on Planet3. I found out the reason why I could not use Fring with 3services APN. It's because I have not subscribe to Mobile Web Pack before on my account.

So for those who get the error message ask you to activate Mobile Web Pack even though you have subscribe to X-series, then the solution is you can use 3netaccess APN instead of 3services or call 3Care and they will fix it for you.

Interesting finding: If you have ever used Mobile Web Pack and even you unsubscribe for the pack now, you will find that you can browse the internet using 3sevices APN.
Note: normally, you will be redirected to Mobile Web Pack subscription page if you try to browse the internet and haven't subscribe to Mobile Web Pack. However, you will always be able to browse the internet with 3netaccess APN !!!

The only inconvenience with 3netaccess APN is that you will not be able to access Planet 3 (three.net.au) since that domain name is intranet one and cannot be resolved for IP address on the internet. So now Three has made it more convenient for you, you can just need to use 3services APN and you will be able to browse net + Planet3, but because initially, 3services APN internet access is disabled, so you need to enable it either by using Mobile Web Pack before or need to call 3Care and they will enable it for you. If you don't subscribe to any data plan (i.e Mobile Web Pack or Xseries), then you will be charged for casual data rate when you use 3services or 3netaccess APN.

Nautilus writes...

What ?!? still confused? I have made quite an extensive explanation and you are still very confused??

OK sure, my confusion was that people were still saying they were being rejected when they attempted to get the pack... obviously it just requires perseverance.

Nautilus writes...

you will always be able to browse the internet with 3netaccess APN !!!

at a casual rate of $4 a MB in 3 or roaming coverage.

Nautilus writes...

Not quite correct.

Sure... I didn't elaborate on all the details of the situation for other S60 phones in case Simeon Verzijl got even more confused.

Note: normally, you will be redirected to Mobile Web Pack subscription page if you try to browse the internet and haven't subscribe to Mobile Web Pack.

Aha, now I can say "not quite correct"! :D

I've never subscribed to any web pack and I am able to browse the Internet on the 3services APN on my Nokia N73 (one of the new X-Series-enabled out of the box ones).

I've never seem the "subscribe to the Mobile Web Pack" page (whether before or after I signed up to X-Series). I'm on the Family & Friends on 3 plan, if that matters.

I've got a V3X and called 3Care number 133320 today. The India guy didn't allow me to add x-series and he suggested me to buy Mobile Internet, Bumper pack, email, MSN, Yahoo instead. What a ...?

I wonder why I need to pay so much without an X-series compatible phone.

Any solutions?

Just tell them you have an N73 or something and they will add you, then give it a go.

If it doesnt work, unsuscribe.

But from what I hear, your phone software has to be branded or upgraded to work with 3 xseries, but im wondering if this is only for specific applications.

I think there should be no problem putting you on the plan just for pure data usage.

OK, since you guys having trouble getting X-Series, I will show you guys a way to add X-series without having to call 3Care, and don't even need to have a compatible handset. You can do it by yourself, and it only take 30s to do it. I thought you guys can just call 3Care and activate it without hassle so I didn't put this in my original FAQ.

1/ Download Firefox if you don't have it installed in your PC.
www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox

2/ Install an add-on called "User-Agent Switcher"
https://addons.mozilla.o...firefox/addon/59

3/ Now in "Tool" menu of Firefox, you will have a new option "User Agent Switcher". Select "Options" from "User Agent Switcher" menu.
Tool > User Agent Switcher > Options > Options

4/ Select "User Agents" from the pop up windows, and click on "Add". Fill in the following details:

Description: N73
User Agent: NokiaN73-1/2.0628.0.0.1 S60/3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1


You can leave all other fields blank.

5/ Now connect your phone to PC, and follow the manual of your phone to connect the phone as a modem. Follow your phone's manual to connect your PC to the internet using 3services APN with your phone as a modem.

6/ Open Firefox and go to Planet3 page at
http:\\three.net.au

or if you are lazy then you can copy this link and go directly to Value Pack page
http:\\msdf.three.net.au/checker/m­ portal/contentpack.jsp

Note: these links are Three intranet link, you need to connect using 3services APN to be able to access those links. I have modified the link so you won't click on it :-) just copy the link to Firefox address bar and change \\ to //

7/ Now you can do it yourself, just click on Xseries, and choose the pack you want and Sign up.

You can also have a look at Planet3 page, and you will have an idea of what N73 users see on their Planet3 ;-). The icons and link on Planet3 will change depends on your phone's User Agent. Now you can see Skype link on Planet3 even though you don't have N73 phone ;-)

Hehe, I guess I have reduced the work load for 3Care quite a bit with this post :-)

Caustic Soda writes...

But from what I hear, your phone software has to be branded or upgraded to work with 3 xseries, but im wondering if this is only for specific applications.


Yes, you need 3 branded phone to have 3 certificates to install Yahoo and MSN Messenger only.

Nautilus writes...

User Agent: NokiaN73-1/2.0628.0.0.1 S60/3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1

Or just DopodD810/Mozilla/4.0 :-)

Chancellor Martok writes...

Aha, now I can say "not quite correct"! :D

I've never subscribed to any web pack and I am able to browse the Internet on the 3services APN on my Nokia N73 (one of the new X-Series-enabled out of the box ones).

No, by default 3services APN cannot access internet. If you activate your Xseries by calling 3Care then the operator may activate that for you. Or you have some how did it by using some other packs in the past. Or maybe some new 3 accounts got it activated when they connect to 3 ;-)But I'm quite sure most of users who never use any pack on Planet3 will not have internet access with 3services APN.

sportback writes...

Or just DopodD810/Mozilla/4.0 :-)

Hehe, you will not be able to see all the features of Xseries on Planet3 using Dopod User Agent, i.e Skype. But just for signing up you can either use the Dopod User Agent or N73 user agent.

Nautilus writes...

by default 3services APN cannot access internet

Although it was 100% correct some time ago, it's not the case anymore. Now 3services APN will give you full unrestricted Internet access on any plan, with or without Mobile Web/X-Series.

Three are actually getting rid of 3netaccess APN altogether, you won't find it on any new phones now.

Tell you what, I still cannot access internet using 3services, because I have never used any Web Pack on my account. When I access any non-3 site, I will be redirected to Mobile Web Pack subscription page even though I'm having Xseries pack subscription.

I don't bother calling 3Care since it maybe a good idea to leave it that way so I will not access internet by accident. I just change to 3netaccess APN if I want to access internet.

i cant access the internet using three services on my Dopod838pro and i had the web pack long before i got x-series

then just make a phone call to 3Care and it will be easily fixed.

Nautilus writes...

7/ Now you can do it yourself, just click on Xseries, and choose the pack you want and Sign up.

Hehe, I guess I have reduced the work load for 3Care quite a bit with this post :-)

wow...i tried it with my w900i and it worked!!!
w00t...now i m waiting for 3's sms telling me to start surfing :)
hope i get it soon...REAL soon

edit:
i see the x-series silver already in the value pack page..so i guess i can start playing now...wow...all in 5mins

Start now, there will be no SMS... well, I haven't received any.

How do you configure a Symbian like the E65 to stop it from ever roaming out of the broadband zone (and therefore incurring charges)?

myosotis writes...

wow...i tried it with my w900i and it worked!!!
w00t...now i m waiting for 3's sms telling me to start surfing :)

There's no SMS, just go to "Value Pack" page in My3 and to confirm your Xseries pack has been added. If your Xseries pack is there then you can start using Xseries already :-)

so i guess i can start playing now...wow...all in 5mins
If you have already have Firefox install, then you just need to install User Agent Switcher, then I think it takes less than 5mins ;-)

The reason I subscribe to Xseries is data usage. This Xseries thing is even cheaper than 1 month dial up + local calls charge to dial. Currently I have no internet and no home phone :-( and now I'm browsing using my Three phone on Xseries. I have to turn off image display to save data usage but still I think counting upload and download kill my data plan quite fast. Anyway it's still better then 10M web pack and alot better than Optus. I was charged $50 for ~7MB usage with Optus :-(, still haven't checked my bill yet to see why they charge me so much.

Nautilus writes...

If you have already have Firefox install, then you just need to install User Agent Switcher, then I think it takes less than 5mins ;-)

lol...i guess installing agent + restart FF + connecting w900i as modem + sign up took 5mins in all

Nautilus you are a life saver!

myosotis writes...

lol...i guess installing agent + restart FF + connecting w900i as modem + sign up took 5mins in all

Nautilus you are a life saver!

When I signed up, I have told them that I have a non-3 N73 (I'm using Optus N91) to avoid hassles and the operator then just signed me up so I think you guys will not have problem with signing up so I didn't put up this method in my first post :-) But it seems like I need to do it at the end ;-)

Damn, just look at my phone and found that using my phone as a modem drains the phone battery really fast. My phone (N91) battery now only has 1 bar left (from full bar) for about 2h usage.
How about you guys phones? With so many services to use, Xseries kills my phone battery so fast... :-D lolz

Question in regards to that...

Can you theoretically put your x-series sim into a netconnect card and use the data limits off that?

If so it may be a good battery saver!

Nautilus writes...

Damn, just look at my phone and found that using my phone as a modem drains the phone battery really fast

No an issue with the LG U880 as it has USB battery charging.

Just another reason why Three should open up X-Series to all 3 standard UMTS handsets :-)

Nautilus writes...

Damn, just look at my phone and found that using my phone as a modem drains the phone battery really fast

i assume you are using BT to connect to your computer.
that mens your n91 is now doing 3G signals + BT at the same time
guess that explains the massive drain

myosotis writes...

i assume you are using BT to connect to your computer.
that mens your n91 is now doing 3G signals + BT at the same time
guess that explains the massive drain

No, I use USB cable since bluetooth connection is not stable. Bluetooth is currently off since bluetooth consumes battery a lot and I rarely use it anyway. Actually the battery was in near full (1 bar from full), and I use it as modem for more than 2h I think. But still the battery was drained quite fast. I think even with a fully charge, the connection can last only about 4 hours only.

Nautilus writes...

Or you have some how did it by using some other packs in the past. Or maybe some new 3 accounts got it activated when they connect to 3 ;-)

I'm positive I've never subscribed to any packs in the past, and my account is definitely not a new account. I'm not making this stuff up. :D

sportback writes...

Although it was 100% correct some time ago, it's not the case anymore. Now 3services APN will give you full unrestricted Internet access on any plan, with or without Mobile Web/X-Series.

That's what I've heard as well, from more than one source.

Three are actually getting rid of 3netaccess APN altogether, you won't find it on any new phones now.

Heh, if only. My less-than-a-week-old Nokia N73 still has both 3netaccess and 3services specified in the connection settings. I'm sure they're getting there though... ;)

Also, regarding the whole issue of getting an SMS when you sign up for X-Series, I signed up to X-Series from my N73 on a Saturday and the sign-up page informed me that it may take up to 24 hours to enable web access and that I would receive an SMS when it is set up. Alas, only a few minutes later I got an SMS confirming it was enabled, which asked me to turn my phone off and then back on. I'm of course, not suggesting that this will happen for everyone (I don't know what triggers it).

(Nautilus, can I just kindly point out that just because in your experience certain things happen, it doesn't automatically mean everyone else will see/get the same thing. :D)

Chancellor Martok writes...

(Nautilus, can I just kindly point out that just because in your experience certain things happen, it doesn't automatically mean everyone else will see/get the same thing. :D)

maybe...

Alas, only a few minutes later I got an SMS confirming it was enabled, which asked me to turn my phone off and then back on

about the SMS when I sign up for Xseries I didn't receive any SMS, but I did receive SMS when I signed up for Mobile Web Pack before (about 20 mins after sign up). So I suspect that when you signed up for Xseries the operator has also enabled Mobile Web access (similar to the progress of Mobile Web Pack enable I think) so you got a SMS. I suggest you to read the SMS again to see if it's about Mobile Web Pack enable, or Xseries enable. I guess if Mobile Web access is not enable but only Xseries then you won't get a SMS and also cannot access internet using 3services APN.

For accessing internet through 3services APN, Three has done that for quite a while (I think since they have Mobile Web Pack), maybe things changed now, but still some ppl still complaint here that they could not access internet using 3services even after they signed up for Xseries, including me.

Nautilus writes...

about the SMS

The SMS was about web access for X-Series. Here it is:

Web access is now enabled on your mobile. Before you start surfing the Web, you will need to switch your mobile off and on again. Enjoy X-Series!

Chancellor Martok writes...

The SMS was about web access for X-Series. Here it is:

i got the sms about 24h after i signed up....oh well

Ok If I sign up to x-series using my Motorola V3X by following the online instructions and i DL Orb to my PC and Phone How would I:

1. Go about making sure 3 sees me as being with iiNet because data isn't counted between orb and iinet??

dodz writes...

because data isn't counted between orb and iinet??

Where did you get that from?

The iinet promotion page says "iiNet won't count the stuff you access via your X-Series mobile towards your home broadband quota." It doesn't say 3 won't count data against your X-series quota.

Overall this is hardly much of an offer seeing as iinet doesn't count uploads unaway.

So what is the hype with xseries anyway. What exactly does it allow you to do? Just browse the internet?

__RavErz__ writes...

So what is the hype with xseries anyway. What exactly does it allow you to do? Just browse the internet?

How about you actually read up about it yourself?
xseries.three.com.au/xseries

Chancellor Martok writes...

How about you actually read up about it yourself?
xseries.three.com.au/xseries

Well I had a look on the three site and I didn't find anything. So now I can read up on it myself:)

you can't sign up over the phone if you don't have a supported handset. They read a declaration to you which includes the models that they support.

I get an error message "Since your already a mobile broadband subscriber...." when I try through My3, even though i'm not a mobile broadband subscriber.

then try this ;-)
forum-replies.cfm?t=712084&p=3#r54

Nautilus writes...

then try this ;-)

I get an error message "Since your already a mobile broadband subscriber...." when I try through My3, even though i'm not a mobile broadband subscriber.

you can tell the operator that you have non-branded N73 and ask him/her to sign you up for Xseries.

ive got a Dopod 838pro and had the 29 dollar broadband pack.
over the last few weeks ive been asking 3stores and 3care about x-series and my phone. they had all said no, cant do it, un-supported handset.

But today when my cap started over, and the broadband pack finished (at my request) I RANG 3CARE and asked for the x series platinum pack (2gb of data). the Guy at 3care told me that i could sign up but i had to understand that i could only use the data allowance, that sykpe, MSN nor yahoo would not work and would all come out of my data. i happily accepted that and im now using writting this message via my powerbook throught my dopod838pro BT internet connection. YAY

So in conclusion, if u want X-Series, ring 3care tell them which x series plan and then tell them "i fully understand that my handset is un-compatible but i just want to use the data allowance". that worked for me

Drooch

PS: seems that all p2p works :)

Drooch what kind of speeds are you getting using your mobile internet with your powerbook? "Broadband" speeds is quite vague. Are we looking at 256 down? 512 down? 1500 down?

Using my Dopod810 as a modem in a HSDPA area with 3 bars of coverage I'm getting 147KBs using utorrent. So basically 1.5mbit speed.

soadownz writes...

Using my Dopod810 as a modem in a HSDPA area with 3 bars of coverage I'm getting 147KBs using utorrent. So basically 1.5mbit speed.

That's not to bad:) I would be happy with that speed.

soadownz writes...

Using my Dopod810 as a modem in a HSDPA area with 3 bars of coverage I'm getting 147KBs

That's allot better than the avrage 30KB (256kbps) UMTS download broadband speed.

I noticed on my 3 bill that Planet 3 is now joined with X-Series
for that part of the billing section.

Can someone tell me if the X-series enabled sim will work with the NetConnect cards?

I'm planning on getting the $29cap with $20spend (don't care on the phone i get since all i want is use the data thats included in X-series) + Platnium X-series pack for $40 = $60 per month + NetConnect card for what the outright price. Will that work?

I never signed up to X-Series but I thought I'd try to use Internet through 3Services and it seems to work just fine although I cant find where it records my Data usage? I've looked under My3 a few days later and it doesn't appear there still. Maybe I get it for free? :)

im getting around 40 to 50 KB per second. this is in a HSDPA area (adelaide) with three bars, so the 147KB per second seems to be quite high but i believe its bluetooth that is causing the problem. i think i could get faster if it was through usb and not bluetooth, there seems to be a ceiling of 70 KB max throughput. but overall im content.

for monitoring your usage i use spd gprs moniter, as three dont seem to be quite acurate. the only bad part is it does include planet 3 data usage, so it could throw it out depending on how much you use planet 3

Drooch

Gester writes...

I've looked under My3 a few days later and it doesn't appear there still. Maybe I get it for free? :)

If you don't sign up to any pack then data usage will not be showing up in My3, but you will notice the current spending increases and you have to wait until you get bill to see the data usage. The charge maybe up to 2 days delay.
So yeah, like you get it for free... you wish :-p

i was going to buy the e65 until i saw that it doesnt have front camera for video calling. anyway i will just go with the stock slide fone the 6288 as its free on the 29 plan. would it be possible to get x-series just for the data on this fone? im worried because its nokia 40 software it might not have a proper browser? or can i download java programs that tailor the fone to my needs? cheers. i was going to get the prepaid 6280 until i saw it doesnt support x-series OR 5 dollar 10mb data pack. that sucks as i would like to use google or wiki when i have to. or just looking up the odd few things. anyway i need something. paying 20 bux for 500 meg seems more attractive than 5 bux for 10 meg anyway. essentially on a plan i would pay minimum 20 for plan, 0 for fone and 20 for x-series which is 40 bux per month. not too shabby. and i know i wont go over 49 bux. very handy. i dont think i would go over 500meg so thats not an issue. im just concerned about the roaming charge. is there any way to lock the 6288 to umts only unless otherwise specified? cheers

ragoczy writes...

is there any way to lock the 6288 to umts only unless otherwise specified? cheers

You know I believe there is. It is in the settings and it should be on most if not all phones. Someone I think mentioned it earlier on in the thread.

So can anyone tell me how the Orb S/W allows my phone to communicate with my PC, when my PC has no wireless communications at all?

I don't get it. But that would be cool.

m1k writes...

So can anyone tell me how the Orb S/W allows my phone to communicate with my PC, when my PC has no wireless communications at all?

I don't get it. But that would be cool.

Your mobile connects to ORB's servers.
ORB then connects to your pc via your normal internet connection.

Simple and easy :)

m1k writes...

So can anyone tell me how the Orb S/W allows my phone to communicate with my PC, when my PC has no wireless communications at all?

Uh, over the 3 network and then through your PC's Internet connection?

Ok. You boys sure are quick.

So does that mean any data down/up to Orb will come out of my normal ISP quota? I am with iinet by the way.

IInet don't charge for uploads afaik.
And ORB will use very little data downloading.
A few requests here and there. Not enough to notice it amongst your normal web browsing.

i was just looking at this and it seems the 6288 is supported on hks x-series. so why not here?

Skype access
3Xplorer (a special web browser offering optimised mobile web browsing),
Windows Live Messenger
Yahoo! Go, Orb (to access files from your PC), and
500MB of data usage allowance
A choice of great phones including the Nokia N73, LG U830, MotoRAZR Maxx V3/V6, Nokia 6288 and Sony Ericsson W950i:

I just went to buy a Dopod D810 and a $20 Xseries plan from a three store, but I was told that my house is just out of three's broadband zone :( by only two houses (our neighbours two houses up are in the broadband zone).

Has anyone managed to use xseries just out of three's broadband zone?

If you're phone isn't in the zone then you are on "roaming" so won't you be charged for the data, rather than it coming out of your X-Series limit?

You can sign up to 3 if your work address is in one of their zones - so maybe try give them your work address?