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User #89254   47 posts
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Hi
Is smart2go the only voice mapping software that can be used and if so what is it like. How good is the turn by turn instructions and how up to date are the maps. Does it have things like the M7 in Sydney in it.
Finalize what is the cost of smart2go

Thanks

posted 2007-Mar-14, 2pm AEST
User #5376   7187 posts
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Q1: Yes, Q2: Very Good, and it's up to date, Q3: Yes, Q4: nothing

posted 2007-Mar-14, 3pm AEST
User #29380   1024 posts
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At the moment Smart2Go is FREE, but you have to buy maps, and Australian maps 3 year license is EUR $79.99

posted 2007-Mar-14, 9pm AEST
User #15848   406 posts
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Nautilus writes...

At the moment Smart2Go is FREE, but you have to buy maps

That is incorrect. The maps are free, but the gps assisted navigation isn't.

posted 2007-Mar-14, 11pm AEST
User #5376   7187 posts
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AestiNeko writes...

The maps are free, but the gps assisted navigation isn't.

yep, that's correct.

posted 2007-Mar-15, 9am AEST
User #120532   1284 posts
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The N95 asks for a license code...

$133AU for two years...

posted 2007-Mar-15, 9am AEST
User #161038   144 posts
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Does any one know for certain if any other GPS program will work on the N95????
I have the TomTom6 for my PDA with built-in GPS now which runs MW5..would that work????

posted 2007-Mar-19, 10am AEST
edited 2007-Mar-19, 10am AEST
User #89254   47 posts
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I believe that it is suppose to be possible to get a TomTom version for the phone. But never seen anyone with it ?

posted 2007-Mar-19, 10am AEST
User #29380   1024 posts
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AestiNeko writes...

That is incorrect. The maps are free, but the gps assisted navigation isn't.

Sorry for the wrong information. I was confused :-p, so this is to clear things up
- Smart2Go is FREE
- Map is also FREE, you can use Maploader software to download the map to your phone but it is TERRIBLY SLOW!!!
- Australian map and New Zealand map is available, Australian map is pretty good.
- Route planning is also FREE, but if you want to use navigation feature then you have to pay for it and it's about EUR $80 for 3 year license. You can buy 1-year or 7-day license.

Bad point:
- You CAN'T search by address offline, you need to connect to internet either using 3G/GPRS connection or Wireless connection.

Good point:
- The map is pretty good, so if you just want to have a map with you without having to carry a Melway then this is for you :-). So if you have a Symbian S60 v3 (Symbian OS 9.1) phone (N73, N91, N80...) then you can download and install this software.

posted 2007-Mar-19, 11am AEST
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Nautilus writes...

You CAN'T search by address offline, you need to connect to internet either using 3G/GPRS connection or Wireless connection.

But connection to GPRS is free anways right?

posted 2007-Mar-19, 12pm AEST
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bobbinbrisco writes...

But connection to GPRS is free anways right?

No, but you can subscribe to a Mobile Web Pack for $5/month with 10MB usage if you are with Three, or pay $1 for 5 minutes if you are with Vodafone. Optus also has Pay As You Go plan or some mobile data plan, same with Telstra. But it's NOT FREE on any network. You may get a first few month Free Trial with some network when you sign up though.

posted 2007-Mar-19, 7pm AEST
User #26861   580 posts
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Are you sure?

So you'll be paying to get GPS to locate your position?

posted 2007-Mar-21, 8pm AEST
User #29380   1024 posts
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bobbinbrisco writes...

Are you sure?

So you'll be paying to get GPS to locate your position?


NO, locating your position is FREE, even planning route is also FREE. The only thing you have to pay is navigation, i.e a voice will guide you when and where should you turn in real-time.

posted 2007-Mar-23, 12am AEST
User #163888   28 posts
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GPRS is not the same as GPS

posted 2007-Mar-23, 1am AEST
User #101256   1516 posts
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so ur saying that if i plan a route say to the shops, i can follow my planed route i set up, before leaving, and i will see my dot moving on the route till i arrive at my destination?

IM ON compnay 3, if i bring up the map and do what i have explained above, u think i will be paying for streaming the 3g service enabling me to see the maps and do this.

Or is this GPS thing and map thing on the N95 total free from a satalite connection that does not use my service providers connection at all?

posted 2007-Mar-23, 9am AEST
edited 2007-Mar-23, 9am AEST
User #163888   28 posts
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My understanding is that once you have the maps downloaded (free) for your area then you do not need to make a connection to anything other than the GPS (free) satelites.

Downloading maps is the only core component which could involve cost if you were to download them using a 3g data connection, however I know that I shall be downloading maps when I am connected to my wi-fi connection before I go anywhere which will require new maps.

The only potential costs seem to be
1) If you want city guides (you have to pay for these)
2) If you want to subscribe (there are a number of options from 7days to 3 yrs) to have voice navigation.

Lemm

posted 2007-Mar-23, 12pm AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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I can confirm the above post as well as below:

1. There is no cost for Maps (Free using Maploader download software)
2. Route planning is free as well
3. Navigation is extra (7 days, 30 days, 1 year or 3 year purchase options ranging from approx$15AUD to $135 for 3 years)

The only problem is that the map detail (outside of Sydney CBD) and regional areas (eg Newcastle) are crap. You can't search for addresses outside the main streets or by suburbs. You have to put the Suburb in as Sydney. I tried to search for 5 streets that I visited in the past 3 weeks and could NOT find any (As they were not main streets (but they were not new streets - Older than 20 years).

Unless the street search and map detail in Newcastle and outside Sydney CBD is much improved (to the WhereIs standard) the Navigation function is pretty useless.

posted 2007-Apr-21, 10am AEST
User #70485   56 posts
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I 've called Nokia. They said smart2go and navfone are the two recommended by Nokia at the moment.

There are forum discussions overseas claiming Tom Tom 6 would not work in N95 AT THE MOMENT but TomTOm will work on that to be eventually compatible with internal receiver of N95. Don't know how long that will take though.

The map loader takes ages for Australian map especially for the Eastern map. It basically takes forever (>10 hours). I 've called Nokia and let them know. I 've downloaded a few other maps in Europe of similar size and the download is must faster. There must be something seriously wrong with the australian map download.

The navigation tracking with the smart2go map is not too bad, bgut if you deliberately change your route when you drive, it does not calculate the new route automatically. If you have pretty good dirving skill, you can hold your N95 with your left hand, plan the route, and follow the route, otherwise I am hoping tom tom can come up with something soon. The other alternatives obviously is to pay the navigation. I suppose the 3 year option is probably the best option for value if you 're using the phone as a dedicated GPS.

posted 2007-Apr-21, 10am AEST
User #17822   996 posts
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well the tomtom map for australia is 70mb, so if your downloading the whole thing at once perhaps that time is not unusual?

posted 2007-Apr-21, 10am AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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Q1: My GPS co-ordinates are out by 100meters!, anyone else have the same problem?

The GPS position is too far EAST and does not follow the road properly. Sometimes the GPS position jumps WEST onto the road, but it keeps on jumping 100m EAST and thinks i'm driving through apartment blocks and national parks, or it thinks I am on a Side Road lol

Q2: Can I calibrate the GPS position so I can shift it WEST 100meters?

Q3: I downloaded the Eastern Australian Maps through the Nokia MapLoader (I'm in Sydneys Northern Beaches). The Maps are missing many roads in the Northern Beaches, the whole of Mona Vale is missing :( Except for the Main roads. Can I get better Sydney Maps from somewhere?

Q4: Can I record my own Navigation voices and copy the WAV's to my MicroSD card? i.e. "TurnLeft.wav", and so on?

ps. Dont know if this has been mentioned yet, but when you download the Maps to your MicroSD card, dont download via USB to your phone since it can take 10hours+ even on Broadband! What I did was remove the MicroSD card and put it in the SD adapter and inserted it straight into my Laptop. The 60MB download only took 3 hours :)

Firmware 10.0.018

posted 2007-Apr-21, 5pm AEST
edited 2007-Apr-21, 5pm AEST
User #55264   1394 posts
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Like others I watched the eastern australia map sloooooowly trickle down the line and ont my SD card last week. Took around 2 hrs for the 70 megs using my laptops SD card slot.

Going to be doing some travelling soon, so decided to get some more maps tonight.

First I added Japan (around 19 megs from memory) and it took about 35 minutes, which is not much faster than East Aust. considering its smaller size.

Then in one go I added England (90MB) and 2 parts of France (40MB). This total of 130MB just finished after about 35 mins! Proves something I read on another forum: that Nokia's asia-pacific maps are slower for some reason.

Will try my luck with some US maps next. I don't fancy the idea of downloading maps on the go at GPRS roaming rates so may as well download before we go.

posted 2007-Apr-21, 10pm AEST
User #167967   93 posts
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Q1: My GPS co-ordinates are out by 100meters!, anyone else have the same problem?

This sounds like you are using the wrong 'Map Datum'. I don't know the software or the phone but this sort of problem occurs with normal GPS's when someone has switch the reciever to accept the wrong type of data. I suggest you go through your options and see what you can find. The tpe of data you are looking for is either WG584 or AUS66 or AUS84, most likely the first one. Hope this helps.

posted 2007-Apr-22, 9am AEST
User #35791   737 posts
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What am I missing here!!!

When on the n95 do you have the ability to download maps for other cities.

I want to download the New Zealand maps.. Can't see how I can do this on the phone!!!

Where in the phone are the maps stored? What directory?

posted 2007-Apr-22, 1pm AEST
User #10559   257 posts
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First off I must say, Nice phone! Very Impressed. GPS signal isn't very strong as i cant get a signal very often which is a pitty

As for the Aust Maps You can get the nokia software people have been talking about here:
www.nokia-asia.com/nokia...4,101353,00.html

posted 2007-Apr-22, 2pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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@Modified's reply:

All I can find is "Altitude Calibration" under GPS Data -> Options

Do you think that will fix the 100meters offset problem?

posted 2007-Apr-23, 9am AEST
edited 2007-Apr-23, 9am AEST
User #35791   737 posts
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What am I doing wrong?

Whenever I use the GPS/Mapping functions it seems that it requires a data connection to be active the entire time. This can't be a requirement can it?

I've downloaded the Eastern Australia Maps and New Zealand maps onto my SD card..

BTW - where are the maps stored on this card. I can't see the files anywhere...

posted 2007-Apr-23, 11am AEST
edited 2007-Apr-23, 11am AEST
User #167805   6 posts
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JohnD writes...

Unless the street search and map detail in Newcastle and outside Sydney CBD is much improved (to the WhereIs standard) the Navigation function is pretty useless.

Couldn't agree more! I assumed the East Coast maps would have also included address detail. I have not been able to look up one single address successfully since I started using the phone. Not much of a GPS tool minus this feature. I do a lot of interstate travel and this was a huge plus for the N95.

I will keep an eye on this thread. Hopefully someone finds a more elegant and useful work around that lets us take full advantage of the GPS function at some point soon.

Mike.

posted 2007-Apr-23, 12pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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Alright ive done some research..

It seems that us in AUS/NZ need to configure the GPS so it uses AUS66 or AUS84 Datum, which I think is what our local Maps use. Since the N95 uses the new WG584 Datum, it does not align us properly to our older AUS66 or AUS84 based maps, causing our maps to be about 100m-200m too far East

www.cavedivers.com.au/articles/mapping.htm
"If you intend to use this technique ensure that your GPS is set to the global WGS84 datum, not one of the older local Australian datum's such as AUS66 or AUS84 upon which many existing maps are based. WGS84 is the standard for GPS and if you select another datum, the GPS does the conversion internally."

More info - Google Search:
www.google.com.au/search...tnG=Search&hl=en

Now the question is, can we set our N95 to use AUS66 or AUS84 ?
Or do Nokia need to update our Maps to align with WGS84?

posted 2007-Apr-24, 1pm AEST
User #19088   223 posts
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Whoever said the maps are up todate is wrong, nth west sydney is shocking it has a round about at 7 hills and old windsor, which is now lights and has been for over 5 years, it also is missing allot of streets in nearby suburbs, while these are new areas all of them are covered in detail in tomtom

posted 2007-Apr-24, 1pm AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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mikey04 writes...

Couldn't agree more! I assumed the East Coast maps would have also included address detail. I have not been able to look up one single address successfully since I started using the phone. Not much of a GPS tool minus this feature. I do a lot of interstate travel and this was a huge plus for the N95.

Yea! Me too.... I just spent 40min on the phone to Nokia to find out that I knew more on the Phone and GPS software/maps than they did (not surprising really). The information i got from them is that if you want "Street Level Detail" then you need to purchase the CityGuide. The problem with this (apart from the cost - shich is minimal really - About $15) is that the only CityGuide that is available is "Sydney". My understanding is that the CityGuide was POI's only (Points of Interest, etc) not street names? Has anyone purchased the CityGuide and can confirm that it DOES give street level detail equivelant to the Whereis Maps.

Anyway, I hope that Nokia can and will update the Maps to make the GPS functionality of the N95 useful. Otherwise, it will become a useless feature that's great to tell your friends about but impractical in real-world use.

posted 2007-Apr-24, 1pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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PROBLEM SOLVED! :)

I ran Nokia MapLoader and deleted all the Maps (from last Friday), then re-downloaded the Maps and now its all working!

- The 50m-100m offset is now solved! The GPS position is very accurate now.
- EDIT The Search Address function still runs off the Network
- The Map colours look much better now, the water was grey and the colours looked wrong, now the water is blue and bush is green etc..
- All the missing roads are now on the Map!

posted 2007-Apr-24, 6pm AEST
edited 2007-Apr-24, 9pm AEST
User #101256   1516 posts
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WAITING for three to release the phone but i have a auestion

with address searching how much is the charge for each search?
say if i search lygon street in melbourne
will the search take me directly to that search from anywhere i was in the world on the map?

i can search manually by scolling around, and not get charged but they will take a long time wont it?

posted 2007-Apr-24, 7pm AEST
User #139642   153 posts
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Anarchi writes...

PROBLEM SOLVED! :)

I will try to give your method a go, and hopefully replicate your results.

By the sounds of it, the maps have been updated. Hooray, I hope! Unless you only inadvertentl switched back to network utilisation for the seach function...

Can u pls confirm that the network is switched off (and the corresponding msg appears when u start the Maps application to inform of no network connectivity) and the search function still works!

Are there any POIs in the categories now? I have none at the moment.

posted 2007-Apr-24, 9pm AEST
User #24565   5624 posts
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Anarchi writes...

PROBLEM SOLVED! :)

I ran Nokia MapLoader and deleted all the Maps (from last Friday), then re-downloaded the Maps and now its all working!

- The 50m-100m offset is now solved! The GPS position is very accurate now.
- The Search Address function works now!
- The Map colours look much better now, the water was grey and the colours looked wrong, now the water is blue and bush is green etc..
- All the missing roads are now on the Map!


Agreed.

It seems by deleting the existing maps and re-installing the new ones it so much more accurate and better. In fact you can see house numbers on top of maps.

Awesome.

Now the only problem is speeding this download wowza it so slow for eastern Australia.

posted 2007-Apr-24, 9pm AEST
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©£ONeST@® writes...

Agreed.

It seems by deleting the existing maps and re-installing the new ones it so much more accurate and better. In fact you can see house numbers on top of maps.

Awesome.


Can you do an address search without having to connect to the network?

posted 2007-Apr-24, 9pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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Byblosopher, you are right, I forgot I enabled the Network search. I disabled the Network and it couldnt search.

£ONeST, yep the download is still very slow. At least its twice as fast if you insert the MicroSD card into your PC directly. For some reason, its much slower if you use PC->USB->N95

yeah Nokia/Smart2Go have updated the Aus Maps sometime this week with major improvements. Lets hope the new firmware improves it even further

posted 2007-Apr-24, 9pm AEST
User #150243   6 posts
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how did you deleate ur maps where are they located on the sd card,
i am having the problem where i downloaded the maps, except it only shows in detail the city and close suburbs, where i live it just comes up with the main roads.

I did the factory rest yet the mapping software is still on my fone how do i get rid of
it ?

thanks

posted 2007-Apr-24, 11pm AEST
User #139642   153 posts
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wizofoz_05 writes...

how did you deleate ur maps where are they located on the sd card

Original download software has an option in bottom right corner, i think, to delete existing maps from conected device/inserted flash card (if u used th epopular d/l trick!)

posted 2007-Apr-24, 11pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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Run the Nokia Maploader (on your PC) and you should see a button letting you delete the existing maps. Delete the Maps and re-download the new Maps.

Google for "Nokia Maploader" if you dont have the software.

posted 2007-Apr-25, 1am AEST
User #24565   5624 posts
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Can anyone assist?

I deleted maps on N95 and then downloaded Australia overnight.

But now open maps and phone resets or goes back to default window when it loads up after showing world map.

Do I need to download default maps and can anyone tell me what they are?

Thnx.

PS I was able to fix this quite easily.

Format the phone card and reset the phone. *#7370#

All back to normal now and it automatically downloads the updates via the wireless. No need to download this 60mb package. via smart2go.

posted 2007-Apr-25, 9am AEST
edited 2007-Apr-25, 11am AEST
User #35791   737 posts
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So.. Do the new maps fix the problem of having to connect to the network to do an address lookup?

posted 2007-Apr-26, 9am AEST
User #27848   638 posts
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DavidHardman writes...

So.. Do the new maps fix the problem of having to connect to the network to do an address lookup?

Very interested in getting an answer to this question also before I go and buy this phone because if it has to connect to do an address search then that is pretty useless for what I want it for...

posted 2007-Apr-26, 9am AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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csga§ writes...

Very interested in getting an answer to this question also before I go and buy this phone because if it has to connect to do an address search then that is pretty useless for what I want it for...

Yea! Me too... With the Old Maps (dowloaded last week). You did NOT need to connect to the network to do searches but only Major Roads were included. The Minor roads were displayed but had no Street Names so searches wouldn't work.

If you need to connect to a network to do searches, then it is useless for me as well as I am on a Corporate Plan with no Data Access.

Will Delete/download new maps tonight and try it out. The last download tool 10 hours (with SD card in PC) so hopefully will be quicker tonight. Will report back on findings.

posted 2007-Apr-26, 10am AEST
edited 2007-Apr-26, 10am AEST
User #77510   216 posts
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Let me get this right!
i can use the GPS maps/ route planning ( say shows me how to get to the airport. with lines on the roads that i follow) FREE!!!!
BUT if i wanted to have that same option of reoute planning but have a voice to tell me where to go. i need to subscribe ( pay).

if i dont subscribe ( pay). i can still get to the airport?

thanks

Ken

posted 2007-Apr-26, 6pm AEST
User #136966   726 posts
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TurBIce writes...

Let me get this right!

that is correct.
you are paying for the voice guidance

posted 2007-Apr-26, 7pm AEST
User #24565   5624 posts
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I just tracked with my GPS N95 from work to home on the bus.

This thing is da bomb.. best thing ever and its very very accurate with new maps of Sydney :)

Thank you Nokia Big brother is watching me :)

posted 2007-Apr-26, 7pm AEST
edited 2007-Apr-26, 7pm AEST
User #35791   737 posts
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©£ONeST@® writes...

I just tracked with my GPS N95 from work to home on the bus.

This thing is da bomb.. best thing ever and its very very accurate with new maps of Sydney :)


Yes yes.. That's great!

But can you look up addresses WITHOUT having to connect to a network???????

posted 2007-Apr-26, 9pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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There's a post at n95users mentions that the Search feature works offline in Canada, but not Turkey or Melbourne.
www.n95users.com/forum/g...le-internet.html

So logically, that would mean that the Map Downloads can or cannot include the Search Address database.

If the 'Maps' software cannot locate the search information on the memory card, it reverts to the Network.

So what Smart2Go need to do is grab a coffee and add the search database to our Maps.

posted 2007-Apr-26, 9pm AEST
User #77510   216 posts
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wreckedandjealous writes...

TurBIce writes... Let me get this right!

that is correct.
you are paying for the voice guidance


Thanks! thats all i needed to know. the stupid phone dealers are telling me. to use gps you need to grab GPRS info n that needs money. then i thought. but gps is a seperate thing. why does it need to go thru gprs. but they keep insisting it does. some of these people need to get their facts right.

then i ask about optus . coz they havnt got them out yet. they said. the same story + the reason they are not out yet is that they are trying to figure out who we pay to use gps. do we pay nokia or optus. what retards.

anyways.
thanks for the clarification.

Ken

posted 2007-Apr-26, 11pm AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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Anarchi writes...

There's a post at n95users mentions that the Search feature works offline in Canada, but not Turkey or Melbourne.
www.n95users.com/forum/g...le-internet.html

So logically, that would mean that the Map Downloads can or cannot include the Search Address database.


That's very interesting. I can definitely confirm that Eastern Australian maps DO require an Internet Connection for Searching. Smart2Go definitely need to sort this out as per Canada.

The other issue (which will be harder to sort out) is that even after you pay for Voice Guidance. In order to be able to route and re-route you will also need an internet connection.

So let's assume you work out the route via WiFi at home, you hit the road and a road is closed (due to accident or something) without a internet connection the N95 will always guide you to use this road and will not recalculate a different route.

Being on a Corporate Plan with no Mobile data, this makes the GPS useless for me. Assuming that the Address information and searching will eventiually be available on the maps, then there is no reason why the re-routing could not be done on the phone. The Hardware should be more than sufficient to do the calculations?

posted 2007-Apr-27, 1pm AEST
User #169598   1 posts
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Hi Guys,

My first post here. FYI, some general news. I got my brand new N95 from Vodaphone three days ago. Its actually my wife's phone, shes a power user having worked in the industry and hasn't hardly put it down since we got it. It works beautifully so far in every aspect. She's used many such devices, its the best she has used apparently.

Firstly, we're in Tasmania, the resolution of the map is not good. Actually its very bad as I told Nokia. I contacted Nokia help line in Malaysia (1300 366 733) several times for advice and they have been absolutely brilliant, they even called my back today with the following info:

1. They recognise that AU maps are currently slow to download and they are working to address this issue. It may be a bandwidth problem (perhaps) with many people trying to DL their AU maps at the same time. Makes sense.

2. They acknowledge that the resolution (quality) of some AU maps (eg. Tassie) is currently poor. The maps are quite new and they intend to upgrade them, add more detail as it "becomes available", they told me to just keep checking their website for updates. I expect that a lot of the other maps are also incomplete for other states. Also makes sense.

Incidentally I was worried when I read about Vodafone UK apparently (reportedly) disabling VOIP firmware features of N95's). Today after extensive inquiries I was re-assured by Vodafone that the phone/firmware I purchased was NOT disabled in any way. The phone is not a Vodafone "Live" handset (insignia etc.) I guess... I confimed this for myself too, the VOIP features are indeed present under tools, settings... so I was relieved that it's untouched. It pays to check though when you buy (I didn't; I merely "assumed").

Oh, another thing, it only comes with Quickoffice preview(?) and to get full editing facilities you need to upgrade it by DL'ing Quickoffice Premium for $49.95. I'm gonna grab it tonight.

Anyway thats our personal experience so far. Given we've only had the phone a few days, we couldn't be happier with our purchase... especially the support from Nokia, they've been terrific.

posted 2007-Apr-27, 6pm AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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Hi Paul99,

Excellent information RE: Nokia Malaysia. They obviously have more experience with this phone than the Customer Care line in Australia (or maybe it was just the person who I was speeking to).

As long as they acknowledge that the maps are poor and will enventually update them that is great.

I may give them a call and ask whether the also plan to allow Address Searches via the maps as opposed to Online. This is a Major drawback for me (not having a data plan on the phone). This is the only real issue that I have with the phone and it appears (on a previous post) that you can do address searches offline on some maps (ie, Canada).

Also, it would be good if Nokia include the "Last Update Date" on the MapLoader software so we know if we need to spend hours downloading the maps.

Everything else about the phone is fantastic.

posted 2007-Apr-27, 7pm AEST
User #169456   3 posts
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Hi Guys,

This is my first post. I have this phone for a week and I love it, there is only one thing that I am not sure if I’m doing the right thing, I have done a hard reset a couple of times trying to obtain the new maps available, initially I managed to download the old maps onto my mini SD card and there were a lot of streets missing in my 14 year old suburb but now after downloading the new maps all these little streets, back lanes, lakes and parks including street numbers are on this map, the only problem is that if I put the mini SD card back on the phone the old maps come as a default. I thought that it may be easy to delete the maps from my mini SD card but I don’t know where they are resident.

Any help.

Regards

Luis

posted 2007-Apr-27, 10pm AEST
User #90883   227 posts
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lucho56 writes...

if I put the mini SD card back on the phone the old maps come as a default. I thought that it may be easy to delete the maps from my mini SD card but I don’t know where they are resident.

On the microSD card, the maps are stored at
\Private\20001f63

If you remove that directory I have no idea if the phone will revert to using the memory card or the phone memory.

The way I (and maybe most have done it) is to hard reset the phone.
Insert the memory card
Run Maps
Install onto memory card, either via the maploader or via a maploader+card reader.

posted 2007-Apr-28, 12am AEST
User #16276   61 posts
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Going back a few posts... if vodafone or three modify the firmware to such an extent where features get removed or disabled, do we as the consumer have the right to request an unmodified handset?

posted 2007-Apr-28, 1am AEST
User #169456   3 posts
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On the microSD card, the maps are stored at
\Private\20001f63

If you remove that directory I have no idea if the phone will revert to using the memory card or the phone memory.

The way I (and maybe most have done it) is to hard reset the phone.
Insert the memory card
Run Maps
Install onto memory card, either via the maploader or via a maploader+card reader.


Here we go ...my third hard rest :(

Thank RN

posted 2007-Apr-28, 10pm AEST
User #139642   153 posts
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Lynden writes...

do we as the consumer have the right to request an unmodified handset?

No! Your rights end with the right to not purchase it. Unfortunately, there is no provision in any legal system to demand anything unless you have a right to it!

Arguing that you have a 'right' to use VoIP to a judge who has never even owned a mobile would be the height of futility.

But call Slater and Gordon and try! No Win-No fee (if they take the case)

Edit: This is even moreso the case, given the discount the carrier is offering on the product being sold! You get what you agreed to buy. Unless they advertised that VoIP would be available and then disabled it - you would be out of luck, legally speaking. Not 100% - cause anything can be argued and won in court), but no lawyer would suggest you try.

posted 2007-Apr-29, 10am AEST
edited 2007-Apr-29, 10am AEST
User #162080   51 posts
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Maploader is truly a terrible application.

posted 2007-Apr-30, 11am AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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Works fine for me. just wish Nokia's servers were faster lol

posted 2007-Apr-30, 11am AEST
User #101256   1516 posts
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how much dose it cost for search addressing on n95 gps?

what on the GPS can u do freely without needing to connect to the service provider, EG with three

posted 2007-May-1, 7pm AEST
User #162080   51 posts
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Is anyone having problems with downloading maps?

I've tried today and last night but maploader just sits on 'remaining download time'

posted 2007-May-2, 1pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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GTlaw writes...

how much dose it cost for search addressing on n95 gps?

what on the GPS can u do freely without needing to connect to the service provider, EG with three


It cost me 2c to do a GPS search using Soul/Optus.
But its now free with the new 11.0.026 firmware.

posted 2007-May-2, 1pm AEST
User #59207   147 posts
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HighlanderInOz writes...

Is anyone having problems with downloading maps?

I've tried today and last night but maploader just sits on 'remaining download time'


worked fine for me a few days ago.
perhaps you need to disable the firewall or you need to use a proxy.

posted 2007-May-2, 1pm AEST
User #90883   227 posts
ISP Representative

HighlanderInOz writes...

I've tried today and last night but maploader just sits on 'remaining download time'

I've had that happen to me before as well.
It happened when for some reason my download got corrupted in some way and it wouldn't xfer the maps.

Only solution I had was to reformat my memory card and do it again.

That was before I knew where the maps were stored on the card.
See www.myn95.com for some hints and tips on handling the maps.

posted 2007-May-2, 1pm AEST
User #150482   11 posts
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I've just upgraded my firmware from 10.0.018 to 11.0.026 and the GPS has improved vastly! (locks onto satellites much much quicker now!)..

In regards to the queries about needing to connect to the "network" to do an address search, plan a route or start voice guidance navigation - I can confirm that I don't have to connect to any network to do any of this! After updating my firmware, I downloaded the Eastern Aus maps (kept saying it would only take 2 hrs but actually took 14!). I've de-activated both my WLAN and Vodafone connection and did a search for Coffs Harbour (which I've never visited before on my Maps). It found it within about 2 seconds and zeroed in on a street without any problems or delays. Then, I planned a route from my location at Tweed Heads to a location in Coffs Harbour (about 5 hours drive away!). It calculated it in about 30 seconds, then I started a navigation simulation to Coffs and it started up no worries, gave me voice directions again without having to connect to any network to download any more data! I'm pretty impressed now!

posted 2007-May-4, 5pm AEST
User #132584   201 posts
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Hi, I downloaded Australian maps from myn95.com/?p=27. just wondering where to copy them on my memory card?

posted 2007-May-5, 10am AEST
User #90883   227 posts
ISP Representative

Unrar the file straight to your memory card.
It will create the necessary directory structure.

posted 2007-May-5, 11am AEST
User #35791   737 posts
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Mudguts! writes...

In regards to the queries about needing to connect to the "network" to do an address search, plan a route or start voice guidance navigation - I can confirm that I don't have to connect to any network to do any of this! After updating my firmware, I downloaded the Eastern Aus maps (kept saying it would only take 2 hrs but actually took 14!).

Really.. What am I doing wrong?

I too have upgraded to 11.0.026 and downloaded the latest maps.

I have disabled networking connections.

I search "1 George Street" Sydney (and other Sydney locations) and it returns no results.

In fact i can't even look up addresses with network connections enabled.

Are their any tricks as to how you should format your addresses???

How can I work out if i have the latest maps loaded on my card.

I used my USB card reader and deleted the older maps using the Map Loader software.... Is this sufficent. Or do I have to format the card.

I find it odd (stupid in fact) that you can have voice navigation in simulation mode but if you want to actually get voice directions then you have to pay.

Surely this can be hacked/resolved.

posted 2007-May-5, 11am AEST
User #19951   308 posts
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RN writes...

REPLYING TO
RN... Unrar the file straight to your memory card.
It will create the necessary directory structure.


I tried this also, but says can't copy to location... can someone help?

posted 2007-May-5, 2pm AEST
User #121050   5422 posts
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Ok im having this issue when i open my maps it comes up with please check your internet settings why?

posted 2007-May-5, 2pm AEST
User #121050   5422 posts
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Venomous writes...

Hi, I downloaded Australian maps from myn95.com/?p=27. just wondering where to copy them on my memory card?

I just copied it to the file titled other on the mem card and it works.

posted 2007-May-5, 2pm AEST
User #150482   11 posts
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DavidHardman writes...

Really.. What am I doing wrong?

I too have upgraded to 11.0.026 and downloaded the latest maps.

I have disabled networking connections.

I search "1 George Street" Sydney (and other Sydney locations) and it returns no results.

In fact i can't even look up addresses with network connections enabled.

Are their any tricks as to how you should format your addresses???


Hmmmmm! Mate, I'm as dumb as you can get when it comes to technology so unfortunately I can't help you with any tricks or tips! All I know is that I upgarded to V11.0.026, and fully downloaded all of the East AU maps and it "just" works as described in my earlier post!

As I said, I have all my networks disabled in my Maps so there's no chance of it sneaking a connection on me! Actually, when I start up Maps, it comes up on the screen saying "Maps..Network usage disabled. You can enable it from application settings" before it loads the map so it's definitely not connecting to anything!

I just did another test run and punched in a mates address (his full address including street number) down on the Central Coast (I'm on the Far North Coast!) and once again, after about 30 seconds, it zeroed in on his place, actually right down to his street number (says he's 741km from me, and about 15hrs drive at 50kph!) so it's definitely still working without accessing a network!!! I just wish I could give you guys a hint on what to do to make it work without a connection but what I've written up top is all I know!!!! Maybe I'm just lucky! ha!

Geoffro

(Ps..The only thing I can think of is that maybe you don't have ALL of the maps downloaded??? Maybe try re-downloading them again??? Good luck!)

posted 2007-May-5, 2pm AEST
User #150482   11 posts
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DavidHardman writes...

I search "1 George Street" Sydney (and other Sydney locations) and it returns no results.

Just quickly, I just did an offline search for "1 George Street Sydney" and it came up with 10 search results (it shows all the Sydney suburbs with George as a street/road or Lane, not just the city itself!). I clicked on George Lane in Paddington and the map comes up straight away without any problems so that rules out a problem with the search address!!

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posted 2007-May-5, 2pm AEST
User #121050   5422 posts
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Mudguts! writes...

Ps..The only thing I can think of is that maybe you don't have ALL of the maps downloaded??? Maybe try re-downloading them again??? Good luck!)

Exactly spot on!! it wouldnt work for me either the first time i downloaded the maps so i reformated my meme card and downloaded the maps again and it works know so thats worth trying for sure.

posted 2007-May-5, 3pm AEST
User #170964   5 posts
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Hi guys,
Hoping someone can help!! Firstly the phone is awesome but have one problem!

When i use the GPS without the memory card in the phone the maps are fine, but as soon as i put the memory card in the maps are totally crap with so much missing data its not worth even looking at. I have tried downloading the new East Coast AU maps but it doesn't work. It reaches about 60% then tells me the maps have been successfully downloaded. If i update the firmware will this delete the "working" maps off the phone or does the backup also backup the maps? Sorry if these questions have been answered before but i couldn't find them.

Thanks

posted 2007-May-6, 9am AEST
User #75681   64 posts
Forum Regular

Excactly Hackerman - Same here.

Here are the steps for fixing the issues.

1. Upgrade to lastest firmware (Backup forst if you want to retain settings)
2. Format memory card
3. Run Maps on the N95
4. Download the maps from www.myn95.com (quicker - but you can also use maploader)
5. Everything should work.

I had the same problem for two weeks, tried using maploader and re-loading the maps. Nothing would work. Did the above process this morning and this GPS is Awesome.

It's so good that I even purchased the Navigation option ($134.95 for 3 years). Will give it a run from Newcastle to Sydney this afternoon. Just had a look at the route and it's quite up to date (has the M2 and new M7 as well).

posted 2007-May-6, 12pm AEST
User #75681   64 posts
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JohnD writes...

It's so good that I even purchased the Navigation option ($134.95 for 3 years). Will give it a run from Newcastle to Sydney this afternoon. Just had a look at the route and it's quite up to date (has the M2 and new M7 as well).

Well, Made the trip and it is Excellent! Pefect accuracy (From Newcastle to Rooty Hill in Sydney). Didn't miss a beat. Even had the M7.

One small problem though. I forgot that I reset my phone when doing the upgrade and lost the Voices that i downloaded for Navigation. I am stuck without Internet connection on the N95.

I was windering if anyone knows the location of these voice files? I have downloaded some tom-tom voices (Which Should work) but I don't know where to put them?

posted 2007-May-6, 7pm AEST
User #169456   3 posts
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I have downloaded the new firmware and there is some slight improvement, the only trouble that I have is that it takes long time for this phone to locate a set of satellites, I work in the inner west and I leave in Liverpool way, but I have never been able to get a satellite reception around work (not that I need a GPS to find my way back home from work); when I’m 15 minutes from home the then I get the satellites signal, am I the only one with this issue?; to me this feature is useless specially if we don’t get a full satellite reception without dropping off from time to time, otherwise I don’t mind to pay 3 year subscription to voice.

posted 2007-May-7, 10pm AEST
User #170964   5 posts
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Ok, have downloaded the new firmware and then the maps from mynokian95.com and its a lot better but has anyone else noticing the street numbers are way off?? When i search for my address it tells me my house is at the other end of the street (and its not a short street). Is there someting i have missed?

posted 2007-May-8, 4pm AEST
User #169957   569 posts
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Hawkie316au writes...

but has anyone else noticing the street numbers are way off?? When i search for my address it tells me my house is at the other end of the street (and its not a short street). Is there someting i have missed?

I have only noticed numbers being wrong on one search I have done (the rest seem fairly darn accurate). The search in particular was for a house I used to live it, and the maps had the street numbers backwards - BUT taxi drivers used to always say that I lived on the only street in the area that didn't follow the council numbering convention and the numbers were reversed compared to every other street!! Does this help explain? probably not....but anywho...

posted 2007-May-8, 5pm AEST
User #66847   1420 posts
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Hawkie316au writes...

When i search for my address it tells me my house is at the other end of the street (and its not a short street). Is there someting i have missed?

This is a common problem with GPS's in Oz - more to do with mapping than the GPS unit. Sensis maps (not sure who does the Nokia maps) are much more accurate in the big cities than in the country where they still lack lots.

posted 2007-May-8, 5pm AEST
User #150482   11 posts
Forum Regular

Hawkie316au writes...

anyone else noticing the street numbers are way off??

I noticed it today! I'm guessing that it's a problem with the mapping software rather than the GPS unit in the phone as the GPS positioning seems to be pretty accurate! I've compared it to the readings I get on my Navman chartplotter in my boat and its basically spot on! The quirky thing to remember with GPS is that the US Military run it, and they can change the accuracy of the readings whenever they want so if the GPS is off, is it a GPS fault or have the US Military fiddled with it so their enemies can't use it against them???? (conspiracy theory goldmine!! ha!)

I contacted Sensis (whereis.com.au) as their maps are pretty accurate but they inofmr me that they do not support the N95 yet and are unsure if they will (they didn't really know much!). Anyway, they let me subscribe for a trial of their maps. All I had to do was download the Symbian version of their maps to my N95 to see if it would work or not. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the N95 doesn't support their Symbian maps (.sis) which is a bit of a bummer! Maybe if they get lots and lots of requests for N95 maps they will do something about it!!!!

(By the way, I'm on the Gold Coast and it takes me 15 to 40 seconds to acquire a lock on at least 3 sats (every time..and I use it a lot!) now that I've updated my firmware! Very impressed with the GPS now!)

posted 2007-May-8, 10pm AEST
User #170964   5 posts
Forum Regular

Cheers guys, yeah thought it was a little weird but atleast i know its not a prob with the phone. Have to say i am pretty damn impressed with the phone and will prob get the nav upgrade next week.

posted 2007-May-8, 10pm AEST
User #35378   596 posts
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im having a few probs with the gps i can only get the main roads and it seems when im driving im not on the road? any ways to fix this ive tried installing the maps 2x :S

posted 2007-May-9, 9pm AEST
User #169957   569 posts
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chris writes...

im having a few probs with the gps i can only get the main roads and it seems when im driving im not on the road? any ways to fix this ive tried installing the maps 2x :S

That is exactly what appeared to me before installing the maps correctly. Did you do a factory reset of the phone before re-installing the maps (so it looks for the maps on the card that you have downloaded not the maps on the phone)? Should fix the problem.

posted 2007-May-9, 9pm AEST
User #35378   596 posts
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Art V writes...

That is exactly what appeared to me before installing the maps correctly. Did you do a factory reset of the phone before re-installing the maps (so it looks for the maps on the card that you have downloaded not the maps on the phone)? Should fix the problem.

no i didnt how do i do the factory reset?

edit neva mind should read earlier pages:S thx for ur help:)

posted 2007-May-9, 9pm AEST
edited 2007-May-9, 10pm AEST
User #169957   569 posts
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chris writes...

no i didnt how do i do the factory reset?

try this myn95.com/?p=3

or maybe this will work too myn95.com/?p=14

posted 2007-May-9, 10pm AEST
edited 2007-May-9, 10pm AEST
User #35378   596 posts
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does talking on the phone / smsing effect it when putting the maps on?

posted 2007-May-9, 10pm AEST
User #5763   2414 posts
Merchant

I just went to the smart2go web site but for the download it doesnt list N95 as a device. Does it work for the N95? If so what device should I choose?

btw how does smart2go work on this device? Is it good?

Thanks

posted 2007-May-9, 11pm AEST
User #171306   7 posts
Forum Regular

can i use NAVfone or smart2go maps with the program thats on my VODA n95? not sure i get it, are these both maps for the program thats on my phone or are they to run with 2 seperate programs, want to load some other countries as am travelling soon,so far i have loaded the australia map off the myn95 site and thats working great

thanks
scott

posted 2007-May-9, 11pm AEST
edited 2007-May-9, 11pm AEST
User #64403   232 posts
Forum Regular

so is anyone using tomtom on the n95?

posted 2007-May-10, 12am AEST
User #128083   145 posts
Forum Regular

I have the same question. How do you install smart2go with maps on the n95 ??

The website does not have a download for the n95. I tried the n93 download and I get "Update Error" ???

posted 2007-May-10, 1am AEST
User #171653   3 posts
Forum Regular

(in case I missed this elsewhere)...try downloading maps using a card reader on your PC...saves about 80-90% of the time...need to ensure you have run maps first at least once though with the micro-sd in your phone to initialise it.

posted 2007-May-10, 4am AEST
User #150482   11 posts
Forum Regular

chris writes...

does talking on the phone / smsing effect it when putting the maps on?

Nope! Well, it doesn't affect mine anyway!! Whenever the phone rings while I'm using MAPS it comes up with the incoming call screen. If I don't answer it, it automatically reverts back to the MPAS screen when it stops ringing. With an SMS however, I only hear the SMS alert tone (it doesn't show it on the screen, it just keeps showing the MAPS screen)...

posted 2007-May-10, 6am AEST
User #13133   1889 posts
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When I got my current phone the N73 was out and the N95 was "coming soon". I wanted to be able to use it for GPS so I was torn between getting the N73 and an external GPS receiver or waiting for the all-in-one N95. Having just read this thread I am glad that I went for the N73/Holux 236/TomTom configuration. It just works, costs nothing to run etc.

I can't believe how hard it is to get the N95 setup working and then you have to pay a subscription fee to use it. What a joke! Hopefully TomTom will get their software running on the N95 soon with the built-in GPS receiver and you will then have a free service. If not then if it were me I'd disable the built-in GPS, get an external one and run the current version of TomTom.

Good luck with your N95's guys!

posted 2007-May-10, 9am AEST
User #169957   569 posts
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dw1562 writes...

I can't believe how hard it is to get the N95 setup working and then you have to pay a subscription fee to use it. What a joke! Hopefully TomTom will get their software running on the N95 soon with the built-in GPS receiver and you will then have a free service.

No subscription required to use the GPS on N95 - it is free to use and maps for over 100 countries are also free to download. It works well and is easy (for most) - the only real issues seem to be misunderstandings with how to download maps (maybe the manual needs to be written better or people need to read it first before using!) and the expectations of people who haven't used a GPS before as to how a GPS works (ie, how it requires a number of satellites for calculations which can be obstructed).

posted 2007-May-10, 10am AEST
User #13133   1889 posts
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Art V writes...

No subscription required to use the GPS on N95 - it is free to use

OK I must have read things wrong. I did get that some functions were free but if you wanted voice guidance then you needed a subscription for that. A GPS without voice guidance is next to useless, at least for in-car situations. In fact, I believe that voice guidance should be the ONLY form of GPS in cars. That way people would be watching the road and not the GPS screen. This is even more important in areas that are unfamiliar to the driver. My N73 is usually in the centre console or in my shirt pocket and I just listen to where it is telling me to go. Hopefully it wont be too long before the software forces the screen to blank when it detects the car is on motion.

posted 2007-May-10, 10am AEST
User #98737   28 posts
Forum Regular

Hi Guys, i'm new to this gps on the n95 but i did find this post elsewhere on a forum site that may be of interest to some.....not sure if they map australia or not:

Most of you are probably aware of this but just found this link;

www.pocket-lint.co.uk/ne.....S-SatNav.phtml

it is also now listed on Co-Pilots website;

www.copilotlive.co.uk/bu.../buy_tmobile.asp

thank god no more charges for voice.

Thoughts???

Is this a viable alternative? Not sure it makes any difference as if you buy this you might as well just pay for "turn by turn" navigation through nokia????

posted 2007-May-10, 11am AEST
User #5763   2414 posts
Merchant

scottlin writes...

it is also now listed on Co-Pilots website;

www.copilotlive.co.uk/bu.../buy_tmobile.asp


No Australian maps though.

posted 2007-May-10, 12pm AEST
User #171306   7 posts
Forum Regular

i dont think the cost to use the voice navigation is alot, i just got a trial of a month for 14 bucks, and 3 years is $130.dont mos sat nav units costy for maps anyway? i think the 'all in one-ness' of the N95 outways any shortcomings, i simply cant see why anyone would link a phone to a nav unit, why not just use the nav unit? maybe theres something i dont get but it seems wierd to me.
the N95 is not as good as an expensive sat nav with the software provided,it doesnt tell you to keep in the right lane,and lots of pre turn warnings,that said i prefer it to not be barking at me all the time,so i prefer it to sat nav units i've played with (mostly MIO) it doesnt have as many options for what voice etc,no big deal, but mines working really well.

i also much prefer having keys instead of a touch screen, touch screens annoy me,especially if you're trying to use your finger,and pulling the 'stick' out is annoying too.

scott

posted 2007-May-10, 7pm AEST
edited 2007-May-10, 7pm AEST
User #66847   1420 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast

scottmcdonald writes...

i also much prefer having keys instead of a touch screen, touch screens annoy me,especially if you're trying to use your finger,and pulling the 'stick' out is annoying too.

Interesting comment. I've just bought the N95 after using Palms & a Treo 650 for many years. I really miss the touch screen, stylus & QWERTY thumbpad - much quicker data entry for me.

posted 2007-May-10, 7pm AEST
User #110137   2 posts
Forum Regular

Well.. IMHO I think that whoever is the clever cookie out there that comes up with the first real navigational software that works with the N95 and has maps for poor lonely lil ole Australia will make a mint!

Quite frankly I am surprised that someone hasn't already done it as yet. When I bought the phone outright I also put in for an order for Route 66. Guess what??!! Route 66 s60v3 isn't compatible with the n95. And to make matters worse.. Route 66 are telling us that its a Nokia problem and Nokia are blaming Route 66.. go figure!! C'mon guys figure you selfs out.

If you are looking for an alternate mapping software, but no navigational facilities check out this lil beauty made by Cristian at www.mgma