Does any one know when ADSL2 is coming to Melton (Vic)?

If any ISP reps read this please know that Melton is not the poverty struck hole that a lot of people think it is. Melton is the one of the fastest growing suburbs in Australia. LOTS of people with plenty of money are building in the area. People who are willing to pay for ADSL2 speeds.

Werribee has to be before melton :>

everyone in the western subs melb is crying for it arent they hehe

I'm up the road in Sydenham (well Taylors Lakes actually) and it looks like we're far off from getting ADSL2+ services. Really disappointing considering Melbourne west/north-west has been crying out for it. ISPs have decided to target Melbourne's inner city and eastern suburbs.

topdon writes...

ISPs have decided to target Melbourne's inner city and eastern suburbs.

They cherry-pick where they can get the most $$$

Get a demand register together, walk the streets and get names if you have to, and submit it to any/all of the ISPs that have the cash to roll out a dslam and backhaul to the exchange.

LOTS of people with plenty of money are building in the area. People who are willing to pay for ADSL2 speeds.

Do you think it occurred to any of them that providing services like high speed internet is much easier if you don't build on a massive block removed from the major population center?'

michael j writes...

They cherry-pick where they can get the most $$$

Well, um, yeah. They are private companies, which exist primarily for one reason: to make a profit. But privatisation is more efficient and all that, just keep remembering that when you're stuck on dial up.

macmaddog writes...

If any ISP reps read this please know that Melton is not the poverty struck hole that a lot of people think it is. Melton is the one of the fastest growing suburbs in Australia. LOTS of people with plenty of money are building in the area. People who are willing to pay for ADSL2 speeds.

That's quite funny. Aren't you guys rural?

monkeyboy666 writes...

That's quite funny. Aren't you guys rural?

Melton itself is in the "Shire of Melton" - which encompasses Melbourne suburbs such as Taylors Hill and Caroline Springs.

Melton itself is a Satellite suburb to Melbourne - not part of the Melb. suburbs. Similar to Craigieburn, Cranbourne or South Morang.

Melton - new developments - I wonder how many CMUX?RIMS's?

remember - Telstra only have to provide you with a dialtone; you should be thankful you get ADSL1 out of them.

I live in Caroline Springs, which is a new metropolitan section within the City/Shire of Melton. Most of Caroline Springs is behind RIMs, all/most of which have a CMUX, but alas many of them have exhausted their ADSL port supply, including DRPK/DA113 where I am. Been on "Network Build Investigation" for quite a while now.... still waiting for ADSL1 to replace dialup :-(

Some Guy writes...

Do you think it occurred to any of them that providing services like high speed internet is much easier if you don't build on a massive block removed from the major population center?'

The majority of new developments in Melton are within a couple of kms from the telephone exchange. Very few people are building on "massive" blocks far away from the major population centre.

Maybe you should come and check it out before making general assumptions about a place you haven't visited.

edit: And before anyone points it out, Yes I have made an assumption about Some Guy not visiting Melton!

monkeyboy666 writes...

That's quite funny. Aren't you guys rural?

We have a 9 at the start of our phone numbers, so whilst our council is called the "shire" of Melton, we are close enough to Melbourne. Our train tickets also fall within the metropolitan system.

BTW ADSL in Melton is classed as metro.

Melton is only about 42 km from the Melbourne CBD. The eastern suburbs of Melbourne now extend to around 60 - 70 km from the CBD. Though the suburban sprawl in not yet contiguous from Melbourne to Melton, it soon will be at the current rate of growth.

ISPs and mobile phone carriers treat the whole western and north-western swathe of Melbourne with disdain, though it has just as many folks prepared to pay the same good money as elsewhere. Specious and facile arguments about cherry-picking don't match demographic facts, so there must be some other considerations at play.

But there is hope. A new estate in Cairnlea also had the same problem, and one enterprising Whirlpoolian managed to get it sorted! See this thread: forum-replies.cfm?t=462343.

macmaddog writes...

LOTS of people with plenty of money are building in the area. People who are willing to pay for ADSL2 speeds.

/me raises hand. And now we have Bunnings Warehouse open, watch all the other businesses follow (Usually Harvey Norman follows Bunnings Warehouse like a fart in a chlorinated pool)

Tbblitz writes...

Werribee has to be before melton :>

Clean up the sewerage plant smell first :).

monkeyboy666 writes...

That's quite funny. Aren't you guys rural?

Nope, Metropolitan, 37k's from the CBD.

TECHNICAL DETAILS
Number: (03) 9747 xxxx
Exchange: MELTON
CCA: MELBOURNE
State: Victoria
Class: Metro

macmaddog writes...

We have a 9 at the start of our phone numbers, so whilst our council is called the "shire" of Melton, we are close enough to Melbourne. Our train tickets also fall within the metropolitan system.

Metropolitan Zone 2 for rail, but still serviced by COUNTRY services (V-Line).

Brian White writes...

Nope, Metropolitan, 37k's from the CBD.

Sorry, Melton is NOT "metropolitan" in any way.

It is a satellite suburb of Melbourne. It's not within Melbourne.

Regardless of what "class" your exchange is . . .

You are also serviced by Telstra CountryWide, not Telstra Retail.

michael j writes...

You are also serviced by Telstra CountryWide

errrrrrrr no, Telstra Retail, my nextdoor neighbor is a line tech :)

Some Guy writes...

Well, um, yeah. They are private companies, which exist primarily for one reason: to make a profit.

can I just say that's a funny comment to me. :)

isn't it ironic that people will defend a private company for this and view it as completely normal... but you'd be lucky to read the Broadband General forum for 5 minutes without coming across a post criticising Telstra for the same commercial behaviour.

Well, anyway, back to macmaddog's original question: ARE ANY REPS WILLING TO GIVE A TIME FRAME ON ADSL2 COMING TO MELTON???

packetstörm writes...

people will defend a private company...

Perhaps it's to do with the different gestation? Optus and Vodafone, at least in the history of this country, were created at birth with the express purpose of making money for their shareholders.

Telstra was, in the public mind at least, a public trust, created by today's generation to bequeath to tomorrow's, to ensure we could all enjoy an egalitarian level of access. A bit like people in Melbourne and Melton being able to get ADSL2...

I know for my own part, I still feel residual anger and bitterness at the dishonest way we were sold something we already owned.

any "ownership" or public investment has long since been repaid many, many times over and is no longer a factor. and since Little Johnny decided to flog the family jewels off to take a quick profit, even that tenuous connection has been lost.

please make a point of pointing this out to Johnny at the next federal election.

time frame i say.... eleventy!

but seriously... your not the only one in Aust who is without a decent connection speed. sit tight.

Mp3dewd writes...

ARE ANY REPS WILLING TO GIVE A TIME FRAME ON ADSL2 COMING TO MELTON???

Any news regarding new sites being added to iiNet's DSLAM network is added to the website . Please dont ask because if it's not on the website we dont have anymore infomation to provide you at this time.

Some providers have a demand register - can i suggest if there is demand in an area adding your details to these wont hurt.

Michael Davis writes...

Some providers have a demand register - can i suggest if there is demand in an area adding your details to these wont hurt.

Won't hurt at all.

But take a look at three ASDL2+ providers - iNode, iiNet and TPG. Two exchanges in the west enabled - Footscray (TPG) annd Flemington (TPG and iiNet). Compare that to the rest of Melbourne.

Tell me that's not a right and proper shafting of people "that follow the sun". There are some inner western suburbs that could fit into your "affluence/population density charts" such as Williamstown, Yarraville. Yet somehow they don't seem to fit into the neat little boxes quite yet. So places such as Werribee (me) or the Melton, have little or no chance (even with mass registrations) for the foreseeable future.

Optus cable is all over the western suburbs - that may affect the viability calculations ISP's do. There is also a distinct lack of backhaul capacity which I believe is being addressed over the next 2 years.

Of course, all the trouble Telstra is causing does not help either.

The other factor is exchange space for DSLAMS - www.telstrawholesale.com...ilities_teba.htm - it would be interesting to know if Melton has TEBA space.

www.telstrawholesale.com...shed_sites.pdf?1 ;)

WaSaBi! writes...

There are some inner western suburbs that could fit into your "affluence/population density charts" such as Williamstown, Yarraville. Yet somehow they don't seem to fit into the neat little boxes quite yet. So places such as Werribee (me) or the Melton, have little or no chance (even with mass registrations) for the foreseeable future.

You ain't financially viable.

Thats the simple facts, when it comes to cherry-picking-ISPs. Yet, you all seem to revere them.

Fools.

D Kerrigan writes...

The other factor is exchange space for DSLAMS - www.telstrawholesale.com...ilities_teba.htm - it would be interesting to know if Melton has TEBA space.

I'll see if the next door neighbor knows anything about it next time i see him. (if I remember).

Brian White writes...

I'll see if the next door neighbor knows anything about it next time i see him. (if I remember).

I take it you forgot Brian?

In the meantime Demand register

Would anyone in melton like to go and type in their number to broadband choice for a little surprise??

how long has that been there for??? I'm almost overcome... is it true... its not in TPG's lists...

Primus had Melton listed, then removed it.

TPG is a new one, but I would not hold my breath.

Melton is not cherry pickable.

Hangover writes...

I take it you forgot Brian?

Bloody hell, you are damn right I forgot :), several days after that post, I went to India for three weeks.

Brian White writes...

Clean up the sewerage plant smell first :).

Are you from the past?

The sewerage ponds have been covered for many years.
The only smells now are from the market gardens that produce what you eat (and occasionally the Werribee river after the "Melton" sewerage works overflow due to heavy rain, not that we get much rain anymore).

Back on topic

Melton may be in the same boat as Werribee broadband wise.
With large parts of both area's serviced by cable, Telstra and Optus want customers to utilise their cable internet, rather than have to spend to put in ADSL2 gear and mothball their cable service.

May have to wait for someone like TPG.

too many RIMs in melton anyway.

i am in a new estate, connected to a rim with no ports.

looking at the telstra reports, theres about 10 rims servicing the area. yay :(

Blaman, what estate you in? I have the same issues in my estate up coburns Rd ...no ports and even more fustrating is Telstra don't want to fix the problem ...see my thread about the nearly 6 months of fun trying to get Telstra to fix the RIM ports issue at forum-replies.cfm?t=769620&p=1

I'm about to write an email to all people in power around the area ... Melton has got one serious problem that's to rims/CMUXs ...so bad that if, like me, your in a new estate without cable feeding in your in for one hell of a wait...

This is getting beyond a joke...

Damn but we need ADSL2+ in Melton, I am barely 2k from the exchange! Nothing in my line as I get max speed on an 8mbps plan.

I'd be happy to sign up to a demand register. We are in 'The Birdcage' (hanging off MLON exchange).. most we can get is 8mbit.

Radio-Forums.net writes...

I'd be happy to sign up to a demand register. We are in 'The Birdcage' (hanging off MLON exchange).. most we can get is 8mbit.

I can't even get ADSL1 :P just want my 1.5mb link back I had when i lived in airport west ...dial up at the max 31K due to the RIM/CMUX is disgraceful!

Mmmm .. narrowband goodness. ;)

topdon writes...

ISPs have decided to target Melbourne's inner city and eastern suburbs.

All of them except Boronia :(

Hell, even Belgrave has ADSL2! And that's like... much further out than Boronia

I want TPG ADSL2+ here.. none of that expensive iiMiseryNet thanks

Doesnt everyone on adsl1 (And Id say dial up much more badly) want adsl2? It seems around the same price per quota most of the time, and huge speed increase!

Im on 512/128, but churning to another isp to 1500/256. Ill be happy with that (After 7 years of dial up, and almost 2 years of 512/128, who wouldnt?)

Anyway Id rather at least be able to get adsl1, than no adsl anything...

That said, CRANBOURNE NORTH wants adsl2!! :P

What's absoutly obsurd about Melton is that we pay the highest rates compared to many other developing towns. For some reason we go without ADSL+2, Hard rubbish collection says and a decent shopping mall.. Where's the council?

Cheers, Nath.

until then. We will wait. Wait forever..

Cheers, Nath.

Greenstorm writes...

Where's the council?

High Street :), next to the Vietnam Memorial :Evil Grin:

Radio-Forums.net writes...

I'd be happy to sign up to a demand register. We are in 'The Birdcage' (hanging off MLON exchange).. most we can get is 8mbit.

Me too. :) Just behind the Waves.

[edit], under adsl2 profiles, my modem reports possible line speeds of just under 14mbit a sec.

adsl2+ at the exchange would be good.. but for most of the population, it wont have any effect.. i said before, too many RIMs.

from the Telsta wholesale reports, there are ~260 streets listed as being on a rim. (I was going to post them, but is long heh)

wonder if the adsl2+ exchanges website could plot all of the rims around the place hmm... would be interesting to see.

Edit: i took a look at the website and founs this: www.adsl2exchanges.com.a...?Abbrev=MLTN%20S
It shows a fair bit of purple, but looking at where any colour is situated, thats around where a RIM will be. the red and purple sections are where all the NEW ESTATES are being built... yes.. the estates are still being developed and the RIMs are out of ports.

Blaman writes...

from the Telsta wholesale reports, there are ~260 streets listed as being on a rim. (

You can have both a RIM and direct mains service an area, so it may be the case that only some of those 260 streets are unable to get ADSL2+.

Carnivean writes...

so it may be the case that only some of those 260 streets are unable to get ADSL2+.

yeah, but i wouldnt put money on getting adsl2+. see my edit above to get a bit of a better understanding of the situation.

Greenstorm writes...

What's absoutly obsurd about Melton is that we pay the highest rates compared to many other developing towns. For some reason we go without ADSL+2, Hard rubbish collection says and a decent shopping mall.. Where's the council?

I emailed the council regrading not been able to get ADSL 5 months ago and all I go back was "not our problem" email. This is ADSL1 mind you - I'm about to email them a rather long email as part of my campagin (see my "no port hell" thread to see a darft version of the letter). I'm fuming about the whole no ADSL or limited ports in a new estate issue - especially when we have got NO viable alternative!!!!! I need to get the majors direct email not the front desk that don't care to escalate the issue up the chain ...

Blaman writes...

the red and purple sections are where all the NEW ESTATES are being built... yes.. the estates are still being developed and the RIMs are out of ports.

yes and don't we know there is a BIG problem occuring and they are blindly letting it happen! ...even worse is if you in a RIMed area your dial-up is been limited to around 31.2K (Like I am now using) ...There are a limited number of ADSL users in my estate (Which is RIMed) but there are no ports now (since 2005) - no ETAs on more been added, no planning for upgrading, it's a complete messy - Telstra's usual response is go on their expensive "alternative" network.

And your right new RIMed DAs are been added to the excel sheets for Melton ...not good ..nice job with the infrasrtruture Melton Council, Developers and Telstra :sarcasm:

Has anyone noticed that Melton exchange in Barries Rd seems to be getting bigger, it looks tlike they are expanding the size of the building. Drive past and take a look. But then again its probably just to add more phone lines for the ferals moving into the cheap housing estates...

craigdmb writes...

just to add more phone lines for the ferals moving into the cheap housing estates...

ROFL - and how! ;)

Good to see TPG have added Melton to the list.

craigdmb writes...

Has anyone noticed that Melton exchange in Barries Rd seems to be getting bigger, it looks tlike they are expanding the size of the building. Drive past and take a look. But then again its probably just to add more phone lines for the ferals moving into the cheap housing estates...

I saw this the other week it's not going to help RIMed Estates but more likely to help anyone on copper paths ...Might be for DSLAM expansion or just phone lines.

AT the moment you have a better chance of getting ADSL in Melton South than up here in the northern areas :P

Well the way I look at it, it (Hopefully) will be a good thing for Melton.

If TPG do in fact end up activating the exchange, then Other ISP's will be paying close attention. Given previous times, it was Backhaul that was quoted as the reason for not going ahead. (Don't get me laughing at Bigpond).

All it needs is ONE ISP to take the step, and the others are *SURE* to follow.

Brian White writes...

All it needs is ONE ISP to take the step, and the others are *SURE* to follow.

I doubt it. It still doesn’t matter for the majority of Melton anyway.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s good to see the technology moving ahead, but after looking at the number of RIMs, I’m not surprised that ISPs have discounted Melton out as not being economical enough to install their own equipment.

omfg! This is the hope I was looking for :D

Cheers, Nath.

michael j writes...

They cherry-pick where they can get the most $$$

Geez imagine that, a business trying to maximise profit! Unheard of!

Greenstorm writes...

omfg! This is the hope I was looking for :D

Cheers, Nath.

not if your in a CMUX/RIMed area TGP ADSL2 isn't going to help

Blaman writes...

Don’t get me wrong, it’s good to see the technology moving ahead, but after looking at the number of RIMs, I’m not surprised that ISPs have discounted Melton out as not being economical enough to install their own equipment.

Well, I have said it Before. My Billion reckons (on ADSL2 Profile) that I am capable of around 13mbit/900 a second. And I am like 2k's from MLON.

Down:

SNR: 25.5db
Atn: 34db

Up:

SNR: 24db
Atn 19.5db

Brian White writes...

My Billion reckons (on ADSL2 Profile) that I am capable of around 13mbit/900 a second

im less than 900m from the RIM, **IF** i was able to get adsl2+, i would be around the 24mbit/1mbit mark... but yeah...

it still stands that most of melton wont make any use of adsl2+.

it will be good for the business sections and those ~3kms from barries rd, but for anyone else, no go.

Blaman writes...

im less than 900m from the RIM, **IF** i was able to get adsl2+, i would be around the 24mbit/1mbit mark... but yeah...

Man I'd kill just for ADSL1 off a RIM :P

A SERIOUS BUMP for this thread.

All you guys in Melton, go check TPG's ADSL2 rollout page.

tpg.com.au/dslam

TPG ADSL2, planned MAY '08.

Brian White writes...

A SERIOUS BUMP for this thread.

All you guys in Melton, go check TPG's ADSL2 rollout page.

tpg.com.au/dslam

TPG ADSL2, planned MAY '08.

Good news for people not on CMUX/RIMs ...A mate of mine is gooding to be happy about this ... Us behind CMUX/RIMs aren't going to see any change - that's if your lucky to have a port to start with GRRR!

mordie writes...

that's if your lucky to have a port to start with GRRR!

Melton has 149 free ports.

with an Extra 640 free ports across the Various DA/CAN unit's.

kylemcd writes...

Telstra was, in the public mind at least, a public trust, created by today's generation to bequeath to tomorrow's, to ensure we could all enjoy an egalitarian level of access

I'll have to remember that the next time the Commonwealth Bank jacks up my interest rate, or charges me a fee to withdraw my own money.

melton being added to the tpg rollout page is a kick in the nuts to tpg's adsl1 users in melbourne metro who still have no mention of a rollout date at our exchanges!

~pi~ writes...

Commonwealth Bank

~pi~ writes...

Telstra

I think you might have forgoten the days that those two entities weren't related...

You had to walk in to a bank to get money and walk down the the phone box to make a call.

Now you can use a phone in a bank to move your money around the banks computer.

You can use a phone in your hand to drain money out of your bank.

A bank owns your telephone company....

People forget the benefits of physical separation.

HTH

Cheers WTW

Brian White writes...

Melton has 149 free ports.

with an Extra 640 free ports across the Various DA/CAN unit's.

48 ports on my DA and they are all taken ...been that way since atleast 2005... now lets not talk about 180 rules; etc and the fun of sub-standard dial-up and 7 months of trying to get a port.

for the record those DA/CANs can't do ADSL2

oh and the 149 free ports are at the exchange level - they have NO effect on DA/CANs ...if your on a DA/CAN then the ports have to be there not at the exchange.

I think i finally have normal ADSL!!!

YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

Thanks TPG!

eeer? wtf? ADSL2 or ADSL1 behind a CMUX/RIM or ??? details please BlueDragon

No ADSL2+ available yet for me, but ADSL is.

I told them my history of applying and response of "No Ports Available" but she guarantee my access.

See the emails i have received:

ADSL Installation Status
Customer ID: ###
Username: ###
User status: active
Packages
Ident Status Purchased Activated Expires Package Type
10105900 active 2008-02-04 Medium 1500/18GB

Installation History
19:07, 04 Feb 2008 Wait for Telstra to activate service

===========

Dear Customer,

Thank you for choosing TPG Internet as your ADSL provider.

Your ADSL service is being implemented in the following steps:

Completed steps:
1. Registration
2. Nominated line qualification - successful
3. Initial charging
4. Nominated line activation - requested.
You will be notified by e-mail when activation is completed.
5. Shipment of equipment (if required).
Will be dispatched within the next 2-3 working days.

Future steps:
6. Activation of Virtual Calling Card (if applicable) - following
line activation
7. Installation consultancy - following line activation

Your installation status can be viewed on-line via the TPG home page (www.tpg.com.au). Select "Your Account" then "ADSL Installation Status".

Yours sincerely,
TPG Internet

BlueDragon1893 writes...

No ADSL2+ available yet for me, but ADSL is.

I told them my history of applying and response of "No Ports Available" but she guarantee my access.

See the emails i have received:

Interesting when I just got a weird response from BP ..see my ports hell thread

Just called also to confirm. They said activation date is expected to be on the 7th.

So far so good!

BlueDragon1893 writes...

Just called also to confirm. They said activation date is expected to be on the 7th.

So far so good!

TPG must have DSLAMS in the exchange by now then :) ...good for all the no CMUX/RIIM people ...

What ever it is ill only be happy once im connected. This is the best position ive been at so fingers crossed.

Ill keep you updated

I KNEW IT, TO GOOD TO BE TRUE:

Dear Customer,

Username: ##
Customer ID: ##
ADSL Service Number: ##

Thank you for choosing TPG for your ADSL Internet Service.

Unfortunately, we are currently unable to activate the ADSL connection on your phone line as we have been advised by Telstra that this phone line has an incompatible infrastructure - "Pair Gains System/RIM". Telstra has checked for an alternate path, however they were unfortunately unable to locate one. Therefore your nominated phone line is not capable of having an ADSL service installed.

To discuss other options, including if you have an alternate telephone number you would like TPG ADSL connected to:
- call our sales team on 1300 360 855, option 1 then option 2, or
- email adslfails@tpg.com.au
To cancel your account, please email adsl_cancel@tpg.com.au.
Please ensure you include your ADSL username or customer ID in any correspondence.

If we have not received a response from you within one month, we will commence cancellation of your account, and arrange a refund of fees paid. To expedite this, please email adsl_cancel@tpg.com.au.

We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience this may have caused.

Kind Regards,
ADSL Logistics

Email: adsl_logistics@tpg.com.au
Ph: 1300 360 855
www.tpg.com.au

Build prep complete!

www.tpg.com.au/dslam

When this is complete we shall gather in the town square next to the big metal horse with our cable modems and have a public burning.. Hoorahh!

DontReadThis writes...

When this is complete we shall gather in the town square next to the big metal horse with our cable modems and have a public burning.. Hoorahh!

No much use if your behind a CMUX/RIM :P

DontReadThis writes...

When this is complete we shall gather in the town square next to the big metal horse with our cable modems and have a public burning.. Hoorahh!

I'll buy a bottle of Champers from AGI to celebrate :) (Unless its cheaper from ALDI).

I wonder what "Build Preparation" really means ?

TPG has purchased the equipment, or just that "Telstra did not think of saying that the Exchange is 'Full'"

ok some people here have no clue to whats happeining and are just guessing why Melton cant get ADSL2.
i live in Hillside the older part, at the moment the whole area from the start of Taylors lakes, sydenham, Hillside, Delahey, Taylors hill, Caroline springs have no ADSL 2.
We can only get 1.5mb speeds. AS F222ing Telstra own the lines and thats all they will give. there are rims around the area but it shoudnt stop them from giving us at least an 8mb speeds. i havent even researched who else doesnt have it probably include brimbank central, tarneit, Hoppers crossing to that list.

Enough customers you say well im talking about most a third of the Western suburbs doesnt have decent internet speed here, theres many people waiting and wanting it,FFS even pakenham which is 90KM from cbd had 8mb downloads from there exchange. The Pricks who have designed the whole infrastucture are idiots especially for new estates, how will they get adsl2 to customers in the future rip up the old shit and start from scratch?

Its really pathetic to see how none has done anything about it and for they high and mighty here about the cherry picking the properties here are worth more than you think.

this is what i was told by someone here from Iprimus:

so im guessing the same thing for melton.

The Sydenham DSLAM (SHAM) doesn't actually reach all the areas by itself, it's got about 3 or 4 major sub-exchanges off it, and a hell of a lot of rims (mostly around the taylors hill area i think).

anyway long story short - only about 20% of the customers on SHAM are actually directly connected to the exchange, which means even though there are quite a few customers in that area, there's not many who we can actually provide a service to on our own equipment.

marz55 writes...

ok some people here have no clue to whats happeining and are just guessing why Melton cant get ADSL2.

Cost of Backhaul (Thank you Telstra), but now TPG is in the process of building into Melton, maybe other ISP's will re-think their business case for this suburb.

The Pricks who have designed the whole infrastucture are idiots especially for new estates

Thats telstra for you. Why have one customer pay one rental for a line, when you can have two.

marz55 writes...

this is what i was told by someone here from Iprimus:

so im guessing the same thing for melton.

Why don't you speak to TPG ?, They are in build currently.

ADSL2/2+ Update.

TPG: Under Construction.

Thought I might dig up and old thread, and, well, looks like TPG are coming to Melton townships' "rescue".

MELTON May 2008
tpg.com.au/dslam

I know I'm waiting for that green tick in the Final Testing column and for it to become Active... Interesting that after an exchange (building) extension that we're getting ADSL2+, not that I'm complaining, bring on cheap, fast Interwebs! ;)

Wolfpac

wolfpac writes...

Thought I might dig up and old thread

I don't mean to be a dick or anything wolfpac, but we've been talking about it for the last few pages :)

wolfpac writes...

Interesting that after an exchange (building) extension that we're getting ADSL2+, not that I'm complaining, bring on cheap, fast Interwebs! ;)

Well the last few months of experiencing TPG's "Service", I have just submitted a request to downgrade from 8mbit to 256/64 to ride out my contract.

DontReadThis writes...

I don't mean to be a dick or anything wolfpac, but we've been talking about it for the last few pages :)

Haha, all good, but that's a prime example of me only reading the last page of the thread... ;)

Wolfpac

Brian White writes...

Well the last few months of experiencing TPG's "Service", I have just submitted a request to downgrade from 8mbit to 256/64 to ride out my contract.

I used to use TPG for ADSL back 4 or so ISPs ago, so I'm not sure what their current service is like.

But judging by that, it hasn't improved. In any case, let's hope someone else works out that TPG are in the Melton exchange and rush to install their DSLAMs as well... In an ideal world...

Wolfpac

But how do we tell if where on a RIM or something? My modem estimates I about 2.9Km from the exchange and I get about 3mbps stable from TPG currently (8mbps plan). I would dearly love to get ADSL2+ as its much cheaper.

AnubisSG1 writes...

Werribee has to be before melton :>

everyone in the western subs melb is crying for it arent they hehe

some areas of werribee has it.... some areas Hoppers Has it... the new areas dont... POINT COOK, targiina (or how ever you spell it...) and nor will it ever while RIMS exist....

and good old deputy prime minister , Jula Gillard (its her electorate) has done nothing about it.....

Normandy writes...

and good old deputy prime minister , Jula Gillard (its her electorate) has done nothing about it.....

Hate to say it but she's inherited the problem from the last government - it's a bit strange that there are a lot of issues in her electorate since before the last election (yeah another conspiracy theory :P)...

I wrote to her regarding the issue I had before the election and got a nice election promise documentation but when I followed up the after the election I got no response ... Now for the record the local Member is as bad -he just handball it onto her office each time I tried to contact him saying it's a federal matter...waste of time ... The Shire council (I sent it to all serving members) I got one "yeah we are aware of the issue" type response... so it's pretty crap when your pollies don't even want to hear what the people in the electorate concerns are ...and these people are meant to be representing us - more like present themselves!!!

mordie writes...

I wrote to her regarding the issue I had before the election and got a nice election promise

funny so did I.. 2 months ago I wrote again, and the only thing I have heard is tumbleweeds..... others written too.. and got nothing from her.

A group even wrote to her about not having phone lines at all for 6 months while telstra screws around at the new Estate at the back of Laverton... they have been given free mobiles till December (when Telstra expects to have phone lines in)... I thought phone lines were part of essential services or something for homes... like power.... I guess I must be wrong? Needless to say they have heard nothing from her about this issue either.

I was also yacking on about it like 3 pages ago.. But I'll just wait till I get my sweet sweet email from TPG saying that it's finally completed....

The day will come =D

Cheers, Nath.

Melton, Vic. Has shown up as Completed on the TPG DSLAM page.

Too bad they probably have not fixed their Poxy Proxy problems.

Hmm, I still just get the final testing tick, but no Completed link... :S

Wolfpac

So has anyone taken the dive yet? I was going to sign up the first day possible at the start of the year. Now that ive spent some time in the TPG forum though im wondering if its worth it. I'm a web developer so its undesirable for me to have cached pages showing up instead of the updated ones. I use rapidshare these days and not bittorrent so im not fussed about p2p. I hope this proxy thing doesnt screw with rapidshare somehow...

How does it effect you Brian? Im sure you've been through this in the TPG forum :) Just link me to a thread if you cant be bothered repeating yourself.

Just noticed in the DSLAM announcement thread that Melton is ADSL2+ active now!

Sweet! :)

Wolfpac

I've just received my free migration offer email which I will promptly be taking up. Though I understand that I will probably be force migrated if I don't manually do it before the 26th of June.

Despite what you may have read on the TPG forum, I have been with TPG for two years and have not had any issues, so IHMO they're a good ISP.

Haha, to the complete and utter frustration of everyone else?

I am amused by those Caroline Springs signs that state (on the western highway inbound) that 'if you lived in Caroline Springs you would be home by now.

I really want to erect a sign on the other side of it facing outbound stating that 'If you lived in Melbourne you would be home by now'

Well, that's anti-climactic... Go to TPG's signup page, click the plan I want, click the purple Sign Up button, 404 page error! O.o

Great...

Wolfpac

wolfpac writes...

404 page error! O.o

Have you signed up since that post Wolfpac? Has anyone? lol.

DontReadThis writes...

Have you signed up since that post Wolfpac? Has anyone? lol.

Oops, I neglected to return to the thread! lol

Yep, signed up on Saturday 23/6, fees taken out the Monday after, connected today, as requested! O.o

Internet dropped out at 12:30 or so, from Westnet, which should've told me, and stupid me forgot to reconfigure the router today. So I was waiting till I got back to work tomorrow to check the progress... Fortunately, I thought ahead, printed the settings, and am about 10 mins into 15932100/11017000 ADSL2+ goodness! ;)

Wolfpac

Hey wolfie, keep us informed of Browsing speeds at different times of the day, any disconnects, Poxy proxy issues and all the other crap we expect from TPG.

And where in Melton are you to get 15/1 ? Cant be far, somewhere around off of Station street no doubt, more than likely somewhere south of high street.

I'm very close to woodgrove and expecting better than cable speeds... but i use rapidshare premium and also stream a lot of TV shows... im worried about this proxy crap..

Rapidshare premium is slowly becoming not worth the price for Premium with the 'Changes' they keep doing to it (See the rapidshare thread).

Any time I need to get something from RS, I just use my Laptop to leech from the neighbours Wireless.

Besides, i was all for TPG ADSL2, till I experienced their 'Service' on ADSL1, I have just two months left (i think) and i will just funnel that money into a higher Cable plan.

*THEN* there are the specific threads in TPG forum regarding 'Issues' with Rapidshare.

Brian White writes...

Hey wolfie, keep us informed of Browsing speeds at different times of the day, any disconnects, Poxy proxy issues and all the other crap we expect from TPG.

And where in Melton are you to get 15/1 ? Cant be far, somewhere around off of Station street no doubt, more than likely somewhere south of high street.

Browsing speeds are *very* fast, I've been on 8mb syncing at 7600 down, and this seems a lot faster. I suppose double the down sync rate, is it any wonder? ;)

No disconnects to speak of, but my SNR/Attenuation figures are worrying:
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 6.5 dB 8.5 dB
Line Attenuation 23.5 dB 11.5 dB

Try the other end of town, North of High St, I'm behind High Street coming from Melton South. ;) I was expecting around 18-20/1 considering my high ADSL1 8mb connection, but I suppose 15/1 will do. For now... lol

The fun part will be updating my MX/A records for my home testing email server... *rolls eyes*

Wolfpac

Brian White writes...

Rapidshare premium is slowly becoming not worth the price for Premium with the 'Changes' they keep doing to it (See the rapidshare thread).

Rapidshare thread in TPG forum or do you mean a specific rapidshare thread?

Any time I need to get something from RS, I just use my Laptop to leech from the neighbours Wireless.

LMAO! I do about 50gb a month through rapidshare so I need it to be premium and I need it to work :) But if there's a work around..

So many threads... this is gonna take a while..

Wolfpac, are you ever on through the 8pm-2am period? Alot of people seem to report dropouts and slow speeds when offpeak starts... happening to you?