Just wondering if anyone knows when mount barker will be enabled for ADSL2+

It has been in the 'planned' status for friggin' ages.

cheers.

mate, all you can do is wait, the only information you will get is from the agile status page. Patience! When i get a chance i might drop into the exchange thou and have a sneak peek, see if theres any activity! ;-)

Dr.Samson writes...

It has been in the 'planned' status for friggin' ages.

thats futher then Kalgoorlie will ever be, I think they need a new status, to maby,

"may we suggest the fish"

cheers mate, just seems like such a lengthy procecss, 6+ months so far,,,

think i might move to the city so that i can just get it straight away!

(i'm an impatient bugger)...

whats the usuall time for a DSL2+ Upgrade?

Dr.Samson writes...

(i'm an impatient bugger)...

You may want to chat with a few guys from Sydney, they seem to be a bit like you :)

Dr.Samson writes...

whats the usuall time for a DSL2+ Upgrade?

2weeks-2 decads depending on where or not we can make anoth money of your exchange to make it worth speeding up,

Dr.Samson writes...

think i might move to the city so that i can just get it straight away!

That may not help ya mate, i have no hope in hell of getting ADSL 2 where i live, Salisbury Exchange, due to the bloody stupid green telstra box 50 metres from my house, and now Node have told me the Telstra upgrade of said green box won't be happening until April 2007, so i am stuck on f@#$ing dial-up until then !!!!!

I'm less than 5kms from the Mt Lofty towers and stuck on dial up too. Maybe telstra want us all 'leftovers' on their nextg network? 1Gb/$80/month BAH!

Dr.Samson writes...

It has been in the 'planned' status for friggin' ages.

There's been some hold ups in the backhaul planning - it's still happening.

thankyou all for you input, glad to know things are still happening....

im very pleased with the 1500K service from node :) , still dsl2 would be nice. :)

Can't wait, I will be churning my second connection as soon as 8mb is availaible, then on to ADSL2+ when its ready.

shanewh writes...

I'm less than 5kms from the Mt Lofty towers and stuck on dial up too

Can you see the TV Towers clearly?

The reason I ask is related to another project we have underway at the moment...

Dr.Samson writes...

thankyou all for you input, glad to know things are still happening....

They definitely are. Its simply that these things - especially out of inner metro areas - can often take time. Right now the guys are in the midst of paperwork related to planning permission for some of the infrastructure we need to install to make the backhaul happen.

Meantime we are also continuing to work on some new options for wireless DSL in this area - and others; We're busy all over the place. Again, the point is just that in the real world these things to take some time.

im very pleased with the 1500K service from node :) , still dsl2 would be nice. :)

That should tide you over, I hope :)

You will get some new pricing options at 1500 in January, and you'll also be able to access the new 'Up to 8Mb/s' plans in that timeframe as well - all while the ADSL2+ installation continues to be worked on - we're committed to servicing this area.

Simon

Hi Simon,

Is Agile currently installing wireless DSL on Mt Lofty?

As the radio wave travels, I'm around 4kms from the towers at almost the same height; I am at 500m altitude according to an altimeter. So if I can erect an antenna above the trees, then yes the towers will be direct line of sight. The upper third or so of the towers are visible to me if I'm standing on the roof. I am concerned about the affect that the trees will have on signal strength in the Mt Lofty area.

In the meantime, I'll keep applying through various ISP's in an attempt to be removed from my Pair Gain system. I think I'm currently involved in my eighth such application.

Shane.

What kind of speeds can be obtained from the Agile Wireless network? And what is the latency like? I.e in terms of running nodephone over the wireless.

Excess  writes...

What kind of speeds can be obtained from the Agile Wireless network?

Their Wireless DSL service? You can get 256/64, 512/128 & 1500/256- same plans as their ADSL :)

I believe latency is better then ADSL- no ATM cell tax either.

Sounds like a wonderful improvement over dial-up, without surrending to the expense of the NextG network.
NextG is currently my only possible broadband provider but unless an alternative appears, I will continue to persist with dial-up solely due to the prices of NextG access.

shanewh writes...

Is Agile currently installing wireless DSL on Mt Lofty?

Thats the intention. Amongst other things.

www.internode.on.net/reg...sa/adelaidehills

“Internode is currently determining the coverage areas for its 'Stage 2' expansion of wireless and wired broadband services in the Adelaide Hills Region. We are working with the Local Government Authorities, data communications circuit providers, and other stakeholders in the region to define and plan this next stage of our coverage expansion in the region.”

We expect to be able to provide specific coverage information for this next expansion of our services, into a substantial new proportion of the region, during February 2007. The currently projected deployment time for those services to be made available to the coverage areas concerned is June/July 2007.

I thaught Internode would of enabled ADSL2+ in The Adelaide Hills already. Im in the country and ive had ADSL2+ for almost a year now.

thaught Internode would of enabled ADSL2+ in The Adelaide Hills already. Im in the country and ive had ADSL2+ for almost a year now.

Repeat after me: Backhaul is difficult outside of metro areas.

We have Stirling live for ADSL2+ now, Mt Barker is still in progress, currently being held up due to some challenges in building new backhaul, from scratch, to reach this site - as its the only way we can get there (and the site is near enough to some existing regional networks we already own and operate to make it sane to do - else, it wouldn't have been sane to do it from scratch back to Adelaide).

We are the only non-Telstra entity building regional ADSL2+ deployments in South Australia at all - we do it where we can, and we're deploying more and more of them steadily - but its hard, and challenging, work - far more so than fibre backhauled exchanges in major metro areas.

excellent...

all the more sweet when it arrives in Mt Barker :)

Glad to hear some progress on the Mt. Barker exchange! Hope the wringles get ironed out soon! I'll be waiting patiently for it to go active!

Excess  writes...

Hope the wringles

is that a cross between wrinkles and shingles.. coz if so I'm running for the hil...errr...flats!!!

;)

Simon Hackett writes...

We have Stirling live for ADSL2+ now

And working brilliantly. Rock solid since commissioning several months ago, even during the full-on electrical storms last week.

Thanks Internode.

We are the only non-Telstra entity building regional ADSL2+ deployments in South Australia at all

Are Stirling & Mt Barker "regional"? I note that Agile ADSL2+ competitors are currently at work in Stirling exchange...

cable99 writes...

Are Stirling & Mt Barker "regional"?

Why does it matter what they're called?

What matters is backhaul, in this context.

Yes, others can follow us into Stirling because we made a commitment that helped generate a sufficient business case for a backhaul provider to do what we needed - for us and for others. So the industry (and hence customers) benefit from our commitment.

In Mt Barker, we're building our own backhaul from scratch, so in that case in backhaul terms its definitely regional, and we expect others to be less likely to deploy there because... our investments in doing this are high, unique to us, and leverage the last six years of building regional backhaul networks in the neighbourhood concerned (or they wouldn't be economically feasible at all).

Likewise we're live or committed to builds in places like Port Augusta, Stirling North, Whyalla, Whyalla Jenkins and Port Lincoln. These ain't exactly metro areas.

Simon Hackett writes...

Why does it matter what they're called?

You are implying that Stirling and Mt Barker are regional and you are claiming to be the the only non-Telstra company doing ADSL2+ in regional areas.

Not quite right when it is clear that things are happening in Stirling, at the very least (and other so-called regional areas too - eg Victor Harbour.)

And yes, such details do matter.

Things are happening in Stirling due to changes instigated by us, including our being the first ADSL2+ deployment there.

Things are happening in Mt Barker due to work being done by us to construct new greenfields backhaul network links. I expect that will be both the first non-Telstra deployment there and that it may be the only one in the medium to long term.

I don't mind whether you think they are regional or not - clearly you think they aren't. Great, lets pronounce you correct.

That excludes them from the list deemed 'regional'.

So, lets look at some exchanges left that I do think are regional:

Do you feel that Port Augusta, Whyalla, Whyalla Jenkins, Port Augusta, Meningie, Tintinara, Coonalpyn and Tailem Bend are regional? I do. Do you know how many other non-Telstra providers have deployed in those towns? Yep, none.

Hence - yes, I think we're pretty much the only regional player in SA in DSLAM terms - if you feel otherwise (which is what you're implying), and yet you feel Mt Barker and Stirling don't count - then colour me confused, because you seem to be agreeing with me and yet... disagreeing.

My point here is about commitment to places in which noone else bothers. I am not sure what your point is :)

Maybe its just too late in the evening for me to understand what you're trying to say here.

Since your own definition of regional is (a) elastic and (b) different to mine, lets just agree not to try to synchronise them.

Instead, I'll note that we're the only provider committed to deployment of ADSL2+ in Mt Barker - via a considerable financial investment to construct new backhaul links - that being the point of this thread - and leave it at that.

And in that context, well, we're continuing to work on it - still seeking access permission for one the multiple long haul microwave links we need to complete in order to make it happen. These are non-trivial things to arrange. But we don't list 'em if we don't mean 'em.

And we've been deploying ADSL2+ in regional towns for, well, years - the Mt Barker link is possible because it leverages an existing backbone back back to Adelaide that we constructed in 2000.

g'night.

I'm hanging out for the 'up to 8MB' changes first. Particularly as I don't need to buy a new router to take advantage of it. :)

I do intend to take full advantage of 2+ when it appears though. When wireless was first announced in Mount barker for trial I had someone come out and test the location. We couldn't get a signal though. I would love to go that route and disconnect the fixed line and its taxes. Pity.

Excess  writes...

Glad to hear some progress on the Mt. Barker exchange! Hope the wringles get ironed out soon! I'll be waiting patiently for it to go active!

Excess,
Aren't you on a RIM?

Well that makes things alot more clearer for me, thanks :)

Well said Simon, kudos to you and the work Internode is doing to improve broadband services throughout the state....for the record us hills dwellers like to be classed as metro as it gives us cheap bus tickets :)

internode pwns.

Their product becomes better and better every month.

Keep rockin' Simon

Excess, Aren't you on a RIM?

No, My DSL line is on an alternative path, the RIM was a problem at one stage in my application thou.

Excess  writes...

No, My DSL line is on an alternative path, the RIM was a problem at one stage in my application thou.

Ah I see .. I was also on an alternate path. After a RIM upgrade I noticed that my line loss improved markedly - I assume because they took me off the transposition and onto the RIM.

Wheels writes...

When wireless was first announced in Mount barker for trial I had someone come out and test the location. We couldn't get a signal though

I have LOS to the tower, but didn't go that route because I heard the equipment + installation costs were around $1k .. not sure if that's true/accurate though.. ?

Well, do you want broadband, really, or not? This stuff costs $millions to install. Really.

And seriously, is $1k total startup cost really that much if that gets you terrestrially delivered broadband at the same price/performance as Internode ADSL? Perhaps you'd find Next G monthly pricing more to your liking? :)

Meantime, the long and the short of it is that the installations are intended to be subsidised back to Internode ADSL price points (same $129 installation fee, same price for router hardware, give or take a little bit), at least until 30th June (and not before it actually exists to sell - do NOT start calling now, it ain't there yet).

And when its there...then my first sentence applies in spades :)

I know this is a big ask but will the Nairne exchange ever see an ADSL2+ upgrade?

Simon Hackett writes...

Well, do you want broadband, really, or not? This stuff costs $millions to install. Really.

hi Simon,

I wasnt suggesting at all the price wasn't worth it ... what I meant was that I had the choice between wireless DSL or ADSL ... since the start-up costs were lower for ADSL, that was what I chose. If my only choice was wireless DSL, then I would have got it for sure - could have then also disconnected my Telstra line.

But I have to say your offer about the service being subsidised .. I'm quite interested in this. Is there any chance of having higher than 1.5Mbps speeds through this?

Blottski writes...

I know this is a big ask but will the Nairne exchange ever see an ADSL2+ upgrade?

My brother who lives in Nairne, would also love ADSL2+ ..

Surely it will eventually happen.

Simon Hackett writes...

Meantime, the long and the short of it is that the installations are intended to be subsidised back to Internode ADSL price points

Out of interest, will the wireless drop in price to keep parity with the new ADSL plans?

Also, do you think you'll roll out faster speeds over the wireless sometime? A couple of Mb plan or so?

Hey,
i have recently heard that Internode have begun work at the Mount Barker Exchange
is this true???

az

Simon Hackett writes...

We are the only non-Telstra entity building regional ADSL2+ deployments in South Australia at all

What about Gawler (Adam Internet) and Tanunda, Nuriootpa and Kapunda for Amcom? are you saying they are not regional Simon?

EDIT: don't get me wrong, i think it is great what you are doing for Regional SA, however i think Amcom also deserve credit, dont you?

that didnt really answer my question.

adsl2exchanges writes...

What about Gawler (Adam Internet) and Tanunda, Nuriootpa and Kapunda for Amcom? are you saying they are not regional Simon?

Gawler isn't exactly regional - or, at least, lets say thats debatable. Same for Mt Barker, except that while its almost metro these days we're having to construct new backhaul to reach it, which is continuing to be built(*).

I agree that Tanunda, Nuri and Kapunda are regional, and I wasn't aware Amcom had enabled them for ADSL2+; Had thought their work in the Barossa was purely wireless. I stand corrected.

So lets say 'largest regional ADSL2+ deployment in SA'. I don't think there is much ambiguity there. (Gawler and Mt Barker as fringe cases of 'regional' as noted above; Then there is: Coonalpyn, Tailem Bend, Meningie, Tintinara, Minlaton, Port Lincoln, Whyalla, Whyalla Jenkins, Port Augusta, Murray Bridge, with some others also planned here and there in addition to that lot, as per our rollout list).

Dr.Samson writes...

i have recently heard that Internode have begun work at the Mount Barker Exchangeis this true???

We've been working on that exchange for many months; We had some challenges with getting infrastructure access that we needed to construct a high speed licensed microwave link back out of the exchange to create the necessary backhaul circuits. We've just found a viable alternative site and yes, work is proceeding on getting that built.

That doesn't mean I can provide a concrete build time estimate, however - other than the obvious one (asap).

thankyou simon :)

Any more news here ?

Ya, I think lots of us are wondering :)

Don't want to hassle Simon and Co as they seem to be working on it. Just taking longer than any of us expected. Told my missus I'd buy that wireless router when ADSL2 was on in Mt Barker after seeing it on planned in May last year. Guess I didn't think it would still be planned 12 months later :p

edited for spelling

We recently sorted out, at last, a path that that looks viable to get the backhaul link built (as previously noted, we've had to D.I.Y. as there is no existing non-Telstra supplier here).

We can now do it. So at this point we're down to one more, somewhat more general, challenge, which is noted here:

forum-replies.cfm?t=661583&p=39#r776

i.e. we just need to evaluate whether Telstra are going to crush our investment with an FTTN overbuild...or not.

Its very unclear right now - not only whether they will, but where the boundaries of any such build would be - this is the sort of thing they'd talk about with us if we were a valued customer, not a regulatory obligation, to them.

So meantime - we're just looking forward to Telstra getting out of their own way enough to make it safe enough for us to get on with it.

I know that isn't the answer you want to hear, but its the truth.

Simon Hackett writes...

we just need to evaluate whether Telstra are going to crush our investment with an FTTN overbuild...or not.

So, now you can all answer that question posed on that other website....

Who do you think is blocking high-speed broadband for Australia?

Any more news on this one or are we still waiting for the election and decisions regarding FTTN etc?

any chance you could run a few extra cords to nairne when the 2+ exchange is up simon? ;)

Tiggs writes...

Any more news on this one or are we still waiting for the election and decisions regarding FTTN etc?

If you'd care to take a look at our online build list, you'd see that as a result of this update:

forum-replies.cfm?t=787971&p=12#r239

Mt Barker is one of 18 exchanges being put into build at the moment.

Mt Barker will still take a bit of effort, we are building our own backhaul link to Mt Barker (which has been a bit of a challenge, but it looks like we can now solve it).

Its also not a secret:

news.google.com.au/nwshp...nternode%20dslam

Cheers,
Simon

Simon Hackett writes...

Can you see the TV Towers clearly?

I may have to ask someone who is about to move into the hills.

They're off the hartley exchange which has nothing. Their current best bet is nextg wireless.

pacer writes...

I may have to ask someone who is about to move into the hills.

You quoted something I said a year ago about a totally unrelated project that was since shelved due to changes in government funding programs.

The active conversation in this thread is about mount barker, not mount lofty.

(and we do have wireless DSL services operating on Mount Barker, not full productised but there are customers using it now; Its not a subsidised location so the install costs aren't trivial).

Apologies Simon. I thought I had checked it but obviously not as recently as I thought. I appreciate the effort you guys have put into this as it sounds as though Mt Barker has been a real challenge for you.

cant wait for the dsl2+ to come to mt barker!. since i churned to internode i lost 5mbit due to telstra shaping me from 8mb to 3mb i hope installation of adsl2 can turn this around.

any updates? cant wait for this to get closer still on build prep :s

I second that sir! :)

I assume the backhaul issues mentioned previously have proven tougher to resolve than expected? Or maybe it's just building contractors suffering from post-Christmas-itis...

Yes, a little tougher. But we think we'll get it resolved in the relatively near future. Its being very actively worked on.

Will Nairne ever see the light of day that is ADSL2+?

Blottski writes...

Will Nairne ever see the light of day that is ADSL2+?

Once Mt Barker is enabled, I would have thought that Nairne would be a good candidate for ADSL2+. It's growing, and has a lot of copper between houses and the exchange (i.e. not so many RIMs). Well this is my perception anyway, I may be way off the mark.

yeah.. Nairne is one of the biggest growing towns (young families) in the Adelaide Hills.

depends if the demand is there I spose....

The growth rate in population is one factor but its a relatively minor one at a first approximation.

This is because ADSL2+ deployment viability depends on (a) demand (b) feasibility of backhaul at a viable cost, but (b) is the show stopper, not (a);

Backhaul viability has to be overcome before (a) is even an issue - in any exchange in the country, not just in Nairne (or Mt Barker, or anywhere else).

Once the Mt Barker deployment is running, I'd have no problem with looking into the logistics at Nairne to see if it makes sense (and if there is clean enough line of sight for our existing licensed microwave backbone to be able to consider a spur to land into Nairne - as thats the most likely path to viable backhaul).

Sweet! Just checked the Internode ADSL2 DSLAM status to see that Mount Barker has rolled into 'In Build'. I guess Simon was able to resolve the backhaul issues.

Tiggs writes...

Just checked the Internode ADSL2 DSLAM status to see that Mount Barker has rolled into 'In Build'.

Good news! I'm on the ADSL2 plan, now I just need the service, can't wait. Good on you Internode.

18-24 weeks :'(

MaxBlack writes...

.

Good news! I'm on the ADSL2 plan, now I just need the service, can't wait. Good on you Internode.

can you elaborate?

your paying adsl2 prices for adsl1 ??

i was thinking about going to bigpond 25gb, but now i see its in build will just have to wait it out.

Chris Grist writes...

your paying adsl2 prices for adsl1 ??

Correct, only $10 a month more and it guarantees me a port on the new DSLAM when it is finally operational.

I for one think demand will be quite high in Mt Barker and there is no way I was missing out.

thanks i migrated. same price 20GB more quota, probally change down and save 30-40bucks when its all finished

I went onto one of the ADSL2 plans as early as I could, probably about 18 months ago. Has been sweet enjoying the ADSL2 pricing while on the ADSL1 service (10gb more downloads/month for same price). It was a nice choice by Internode to offer the ADSL2 pricing while people waited for the service to be activated.

One positive re timeframes for the next stage, I doubt Internode will be waiting in a line to get access to the exchange as nobody else is looking to DSLAM Mt Barker.

damn i didnt know about this, ill be getting 20gb more downloads

well sales shot me down and wouldnt do what they have done for the above :/

Sorry Chris, I should explain that the plan I was on for ADSL1 was $60/month for 10gb dowbload at 1500kps. That changed to 20gb download for the same price when I upgraded to the ADSL2 plan, even though I'm on ADSL1 on Mt Barker still just awaiting the DSLAMing of the exchange.

Chris Grist writes...

well sales shot me down

Really, that's interesting, did they explain why?

I'm in the same situation as described by Tiggs.

They said they dont do it!.

Maybe ill try again, im on the 119.95 40gb 8mbit at the moment, the 119.95 adsl2+ is 60gb

Chris Grist writes...

They said they dont do it!.

... don't do it anymore.

Simon Hackett writes...

As an obvious part of that, as of now, there will be no new 'Extreme on Telstra port' customers - you can no longer do a plan change to Extreme unless you are on an ADSL2+ port, and you can not sign up to an Extreme plan unless we can deliver it directly on an ADSL2+ port (using SST or via a 'cold' signup).

forum-replies.cfm?t=6668...005218#r11005218

anyone else in mt barker experieincing gaming pings being too high?

during 7-9pm at night ping is jumping from 60 to 100 to 400 its really frustrating

nyone else in mt barker experieincing gaming pings being too high?

during 7-9pm at night ping is jumping from 60 to 100 to 400 its really frustrating

This thread is about the in-build Internode ADSL2+ DSLAM installation in Mt Barker.

If you have performance issues in the evenings right now, that'll be the generic Telstra inter-exchange congestion problem that seems to be popping up all over the place.

Feel free to report it to Internode and they'll try their best to get Telstra to fix it - noting that this can take a while and impacts all Telstra DSLAM customers.

(And noting also that this has nothing directly to do with the topic in this thread)

Once Internode has the Mt Barker ADSL2+ facility active, you'll finally have an alternative in Mt Barker that can bypass that point of congestion in the Telstra network.

Simon

Simon Hackett writes...

Once Internode has the Mt Barker ADSL2+ facility active,

*smiles and continues to wait ever so patiently in gentle contemplation of ADSL2 goodness*

Tiggs writes...

Just checked the Internode ADSL2 DSLAM status to see that Mount Barker has rolled into 'In Build'.

I think I may take some site visits to the Mt Barker Exchange and see how the build is going. Getting exciting now!

Let us know what you see. From the indicative timeframes on the node site we still have 3 to 5 months wait before we'll see the Mt Barker DSLAM activated.

will plenty of ports be activated in the MTBK exchange, or will it be a fist fight to get a port?

be thankful you dont live at Nairne where we'll probably never get to experience ADSL2+ :(

*bump

is there an ancitipated port shortage for MTBK?

Blottski writes...

be thankful you dont live at Nairne where we'll probably never get to experience ADSL2+ :(

It was only a few years ago that Nairne based users on here were saying the same thing about Nairne getting ADSL1.

jazy writes...

is there an ancitipated port shortage for MTBK?

If the exchange is being built now, why would they not install enough ports to cover demand?
There won't be a port shortage, there will be a surplus of ports once it goes live. Once they fill up, then there becomes a port shortage.

Blottski writes...

be thankful you dont live at Nairne where we'll probably never get to experience ADSL2+ :(

Well if Internode and other ISPs are successful in getting Telstra to allow them wholesale access to their ADSL2+ just about everyone should be able to get it :)

Hey guys,

Just a quick update for you all, it seems the exchange has been In Test since Monday. so hopefully not too long to go now :>

yea!!!!!!!
I cannot wait, anyone know how long it usually takes to test? approx?

Grubsy writes...

Well if Internode and other ISPs are successful in getting Telstra to allow them wholesale access to their ADSL2+ just about everyone should be able to get it :)

yeah but i'd rather be on Internode's own Agile system than have to deal with Telstra and their shenanagans....

Chris Grist writes...

it seems the exchange has been In Test since Monday

That's great, good thing the "build" process didn't stretch out for too long.

1-4 weeks for testing, lets hope for 1 week :p

I really can't wait to ditch my Telstra phone line, no more paying them $28 a month just so I can have BB. I'm going NAKED!

MaxBlack writes...

I really can't wait to ditch my Telstra phone line, no more paying them $28 a month just so I can have BB. I'm going NAKED!

yepo... i'd give my left one to be able to go Naked with Node on the Nairne exchange.... (wow, that sounded dodgy :P )

I'd rather be giving my money to Internode than to Telstra any day of the week...

its already been a week now so lets hope 0-3 left to go

Blottski writes...

i'd give my left one to be able to go Naked with Node on the Nairne exchange

....maybe move to Littlehampton, we are much nicer than those Nairne people :p

(j/k)

Well I have just done a very easy chun to Internode! Internode made it so easy. The Internode Call centre staff are Quick to help and very helpful. Thank you Internode! My SSM is done! Now I just wait for ADSL2+ pleasure.

Chris Grist writes...

Just a quick update for you all, it seems the exchange has been In Test since Monday. so hopefully not too long to go now :>

About a month to go according to our Node rep.... :)

Cheers
Dan

Thanks for that update Daniel996. Will stop me looking at the DSLAM list every day :)

anyone contacted internode recently about the exchange?
wondering if there are any updates yet?

thanks

/forum-replies.cfm?t=970120&p=9#r163

heres hoping its soon

As per the link noted above, the exchange is built, its all ready to go, and we are just completing some backhaul upgrades proactively (before we turn on access to ports) on the path back to Adelaide.

We are doing that with an aim (obviously) of making the process of takeup in Mt Barker as smooth as possible. We're well aware of the extend of demand there – its why we're building this, and why we've spent literally years solving a heap of problems to make this build possible at all (including constructing our own backhaul path back to Adelaide as a part of it).

thanks for the update simon! very much appreciated.

Any chance of a approx ETA? week, months?

thanks again

As per the previous advice – a week or two, hopefully.

Will I be able to get Telstra Home Line Basic Line Rental ($19.95 month) with the New Agile DSLAM ports in MT Barker? I Know I can get it with my exisiting ADSL1 Telstra Wholesale port with internode! But if I change to telstra HLB Line rental! Will this effect my SSM to the New Agile DSLAM ports eg. Telstra blocking the migration?
ARE the Agile DSLAM ports in MT Barker Line sharing’?

TELSTRA TERMS CONDTIONS
8 HomeLine Budget
Availability
8.1 You can choose HomeLine Budget for your Basic Telephone Service if:
(a) you preselect us for long distance calls, international calls and calls to mobile numbers;
(b) you only have one Basic Telephone Service; and
© where you choose a HomeLine Budget plan on or after 1 March 2007, you do not have or acquire a broadband service from another service provider which uses ‘line sharing’.
‘Line sharing’ (also known as ‘spectrum sharing’) involves Telstra providing a voice service to a customer over a copper pair line, while also providing a service provider with access to the same line so the service provider can simultaneously provide other services to the customer over the high frequency portion of that line.

I was up in Whyalla for six months and whilst I was there I signed up for Home Line Basic, ignored Telstra's warning about not signing up for any non-Bigpond broadband on the line & was up and running with Internode on an Agile port within a week or two.

So you shouldn't have any problems. If Telstra try to give you any grief about using another broadband provider I seem to recall you can ask for a Team Leader and talk to them about violating operational separation by viewing the wholesale side of your records or something along those lines. I'm sure someone else will be able to fill you in much better than I.

SyncStream writes...

I can get it with my exisiting ADSL1 Telstra Wholesale port with internode!

Then change it over right now.

Telstra business rules and Operational Separation rules don't allow Telstra to ask, or care, about your choice of DSL provider if you change that choice after changing to HLB.

So change now, and the migrate once the ADSL2+ is commissioned, and enjoy.

The whole thing is just an exercise in Telstra 'trying it on'. Telstra Retail have no right to ask, or care, how you obtain your broadband from a wholesale access provider using the same line.

I just changed my landline over to Telstra HLB.. $19.95 a month! They said it will take 3-10 days.. I just hope my Internode SSM to the Agile DSLAM port dosn't go through before my.. Landline is changed over from my exisiting telco (Iprimus)! As this could create a problem? As I need to be on a TW port to keep telstra happy with HLB!
Should I cancel my current SSM application and wait till my telstra HLB.. Then put in for SSM! Or should the 3-10 days be enough time before I get migrated?

i would assume youd be ok seeing as the MTBK is still showing as "In Test"

Maybe you should hold off until the advisory comes as to when the migrations will happen.

Chris Grist writes...

Maybe you should hold off until the advisory comes as to when the migrations will happen Thanks I think I will keep an eye on the advisory in my Internode monthly usage meter! And check with Telstra @ the end of the week on my HLB order progress (-; Do telstra have an online order check for HLB or do I have to call them and quote my order number?

close to the two week mark know, are we expecting further wait or is it almost good to go i wonder.

The testing does seem to be taking a while, I'd rather them get it right though. I'm happy to wait though looking forward to Nakedness!

I think the issues with backhaul always take a little longer to resolve. Having said that, it's a bit of a sad indictment of the current state of broadband in Australia that despite Simon acknowledging the level of demand in Mount Barker, the cost of Telstra backhaul has prevented ADSL2 being available here sooner. Good on Internode for working through the issues for another marginally rural area.

I'm happy to take a day off work and run some cabling up the freeway, lol

I think the delay is due to to Microwave links upgrade between lofty and mt barker sumumit through to murray bridge, that links into the coorong backbone. Greater powered radio links are needed as mt barker dslam is hooked into the coorong network. This is so both dslam networks. Coroong and Mt barker have enough bandwith for everyone. But I am sure Simon will tell us if this is the case or not.

I was hoping it'd be this week sometime

Simon Hackett writes...

The whole thing is just an exercise in Telstra 'trying it on'. Telstra Retail have no right to ask, or care, how you obtain your broadband from a wholesale access provider using the same line.

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