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Hey guys, just a quick post to ask if this temp sounds reasonable.

According to Asus Probe my cpu is running on idle about 42 degrees.
Running dual Prime95 under stress mode it runs at about 60 degrees.
MB Temp is about 33 degrees

I haven't tried Core temp as yet but I will tonight..

This is my rig:

E6600 @ 2.4
Stock HFS
1 gb IPQ RAM @ 667
Geforce 7600GT
Antec P160

Any thoughts?

The Asus Probe stuff seems to vary widely from mobo to mobo (not model.. but actual instance) so I'd wait until you get your coreTemp temps to be able to tell a bit better...

Are you using the stock Cooler?

I have the same CPU with the stock cooler, and using Core Temp I am seeing 45-46 idle and upto 60 under load.

I am looking at getting a Noctua NH-U12 to fix this.

Yes I'am using the Stock cooler.

I have the Asus P5B M/B

You might want to look at this Heatsink..

www.pro-clockers.com/rev...hp?id=116&page=5

It is a bit expensive but aye it is worth it.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has the same temps with the Stock HFS.

My E6600 OC 25% (1333FSB) runs 47C (core temp) (dual prime load) with a Big Typhoon cooler.
Ambient 21. Case 34.

Edit: forum-replies.cfm?t=578129&p=1
and
forum-replies.cfm?t=586169&p=1

I have an E6600, and I've been getting up to 40 degrees at idle on the Gigabyte monitoring software, and up to 57 at load. Core Temp temperatures are around 47 degrees at idle, and up to 65 degrees at load.

I didn't really mind these temperatures at first, but then I started to worry about what will happen in Summer, so I decided to try and sort things out.

Looking at the (stock) heatsink, I found that one of the pins wasn't quite tight when it was first installed, so I took the HSF off, and re-seated it using new thermal paste. This made (at most) a two degree difference, so it must have been sitting pretty solidly on the CPU in the first place despite one of the pins not being fully tightened. Still, it's worth checking that the pins are pushed in and tightened.

So my next step was to email Intel. Once I got in contact with a real person, they told me that they couldn't tell me what temperature the processor should run at, but I should make sure I am using a "Thermally Advantaged Chassis", and if the processor is overheating, I can return it to my place of purchase. I asked them what software they would recommend to test if it is overheating (since there is a big discrepancy between reported temperatures on different software), but haven't heard back from them.

I've now decided that I will just bite the bullet and buy a new cooler. I'm currently looking at the Big Typhoon and the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. The Big Typhoon definitely seems to be the better cooler, but the Freezer 7 Pro is lighter. I'm leaning towards the Big Typhoon at the moment, but I'm not sure about hanging that much weight off my motherboard.

In any case, you aren't alone in having higher-than-expected temperatures with an E6600. I'll post the results I get from my new cooler when I finally get it, so that others with the same issue can see if it is worth the time and money to replace the stock one.

It is nice to not be alone in feeling slightly "sucked in".

All the hype and pre-release publicity was about them running cooler than other CPUs yet it definitely appears that many are *not* doing so with the stock cooling.

So what has happened? Has intel changed from the engineering samples it put out to now? Is their production control crapping out?

It's a bit disappointing and I do feel slightly taken in but as long as I can keep the thing at an ok temperature in the summer (worry...) I'll be happy.

Well I'm just worried about summer as well.

I do not care about OCing as it is quick enough as it is!

I'll be purchasing the ASUS Silent Square and see how I go.

I will post my results on the weekend!

Hey Cipher what is your Fan running at on your Typhoon?

My E6600 is running at 35~ idle, 60 load on stock HSF.

The thing is that the fan is barely turning.. under no load it drops down to 900rpm and sometimes stops (as Intel fans are inclined to do..scary as hell the first time it happens).

With a bit of tweaking of fan speed I'm sure the idle temp would drop a fair bit.

Yeah I've notice that !
Scared the hell out of me when I first booted - I though S**t the fan is faulty!
It was running at one stage at 600 rpm!

But the moment I think it is running at something between
1700 ~ 1800 rpm.

DNova writes...

Looking at the (stock) heatsink, I found that one of the pins wasn't quite tight when it was first installed, so I took the HSF off, and re-seated it using new thermal paste. This made (at most) a two degree difference, so it must have been sitting pretty solidly on the CPU in the first place despite one of the pins not being fully tightened. Still, it's worth checking that the pins are pushed in and tightened.

Thank DNova, Ive refitting the bloody thing back on three times...
( Bad design on those things! )
I hated pushing those pins down, it felt like I was going to snap the MB.
Tried different angles etc etc...

Simon Henderson writes...

The thing is that the fan is barely turning.. under no load it drops down to 900rpm and sometimes stops (as Intel fans are inclined to do..scary as hell the first time it happens).

I noticed that too, and it is the reason why I wasn't worried about the temperatures to start with. I thought: "The fan isn't stressing, so there's no problem".

But I'm still reaching 60 degrees (Core Temp) when I use Gigabyte's fan tool to manually set the fan speed to 100%. So I've decided that a third-party cooler is probably worth the money.

my 6400 at 2.66Ghz (very mild overclock) is at 33-36 (core temp) load with both cores folding 24/7, its cold though ... only 19C ambient ...

and I am watercooling ;)

DNova writes...

But I'm still reaching 60 degrees (Core Temp) when I use Gigabyte's fan tool to manually set the fan speed to 100%

What is the rpm of the cpu fan when you set to 100%?

Hades writes...

What is the rpm of the cpu fan when you set to 100%?

I can't recall exactly, so I'd just be guessing. I'll check it out tonight and let you know.

Hades writes...

Hey Cipher what is your Fan running at on your Typhoon?

RPM?
I'll check tonight, but I've tweaked the controls (Intel Desktop Control) so it accelertates early and tops out at a low case temp.

Definitely 100% at full load - still very quiet.

FYI: Also have a 120mm rear case fan that max's out at the same time.

Ahhh... BT has a constant RMP of 1300.

Only my case fan runs faster at temperature.

Edit: www.thermaltake.com/prod.../cl-p0114-01.asp

What do you reckon shall I purchase the asus silent square or big t?

Simon Henderson writes...

The thing is that the fan is barely turning.. under no load it drops down to 900rpm and sometimes stops (as Intel fans are inclined to do..scary as hell the first time it happens).

Same happens to me and its crap. Is there a program to control fan speed? I have a ds3 and speed fan is greyed out on easy tune? I've looked at a separate program also called speedfan but its bloody confusing

how do you take a "core temp" reading?

MrTony writes...

Same happens to me and its crap. Is there a program to control fan speed? I have a ds3 and speed fan is greyed out on easy tune?

check your BIOS settings, under CPU there's many options on how to control it's speed. If you use "Intel" then the CPU will control it's own fan. Try using the other options if you want the gigabyte software to control it. YOu can also have it run flat out all the time.

personally I don't mind using the intel controller as it's quiet. and so what if the fan stops.

You need a Program called core temp.

You can download it here:

www.xtremesystems.org/fo...ead.php?t=103638

www.thecoolest.zerobrain...wtopic.php?t=137

Read: www.overclockers.com/tips507

MrTony writes...

Same happens to me and its crap. Is there a program to control fan speed? I have a ds3 and speed fan is greyed out on easy tune? I've looked at a separate program also called speedfan but its bloody confusing

The Gigabyte tools aren't the greatest at fan speed control, but I've had some success with I-Cool (one of the tools that was on my 965P-S3 driver CD). By setting I-Cool to "Level V", I managed to get the fan spinning at full speed when thrashing both cores. It doesn't allow direct fan speed control, but it certainly helps.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to make that much difference to load temperatures.

Well I download Core Temp....

The temp is

35 degrees idle on both cores
Asus probe is registering 45

Dual Prime95 55 degrees both cores
Asus Probe is registering 63..

Funny isn't it.

Hades writes...

What is the rpm of the cpu fan when you set to 100%?

It seems to take ages to spin up, but after 20 minutes of thrashing the CPU, and with the Gigabyte fan speed control tool (I-Cool) set to the highest level, it reaches 2235 RPM (as reported by Gigabyte's Easy Tune 5 utility).

It is strange that it takes 20 minutes or so to reach full speed, though. It reaches 1600 RPM really quickly, then takes ages to get up to 2200 RPM.

I have had my E6600, Giga DS3 & Big Typhoon combo for just under a month. My idle core temp. temperatures are between 22-25 degrees on average, the highest temperature I have seen so far is about 31 degrees.

bluegriffin writes...

I have had my E6600, Giga DS3 & Big Typhoon combo for just under a month. My idle core temp. temperatures are between 22-25 degrees on average, the highest temperature I have seen so far is about 31 degrees.

what is your room temp ? is the PC in a fridge ? LOL ... those temps are way too low .. I have a $550 watercooling kit and spent another $300 on case and high quality fans and I dont have temps like that ...

can you post a screenie ?

Omarko writes...

what is your room temp ? is the PC in a fridge ? LOL ... those temps are way too low .. I have a $550 watercooling kit and spent another $300 on case and high quality fans and I dont have temps like that ...

they would be ASUS probe temps or something like that its telling me my CPU is @ 21C currently while coretemp is saying 37

Am I the only person who has the Asus probe reading the same as core temp to within 1c?

Idle
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Both cores under full load.
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Bandit writes...

Am I the only person who has the Asus probe reading the same as core temp to within 1c?

looks like it :)

looks like we have to agree on what software we use to take temperatures so that we are all on the same page.

I think Core Temp is good as its reading from the same position for everyone, directly from the CPU
So should be the most accurate

Orion03 writes...

and so what if the fan stops.

... because once it didnt come back on, until I opened the case and gave it a push. Scary. came home to find the coretemp at 80. So yes, i dont want the fan to ever stop. BT looks the goods, I will have to buy one soon

MrTony writes...

BT looks the goods, I will have to buy one soon

thewre are better coolers around

Scythe Ninja/Infinity, Tuniq tower, Noctua 12, Thermalright ultra 120 there are a few more but all peform better then the typhoon

Guys, I have two tools that might be a lot of use. First is Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, which beats the pants off of Core Temp and allows you to load both cores to the max to see what your real burn temp is. Second is RM Clock, an app that allows you to control EIST and other power saving features for your CPU. I have my E6600 at 3.6 GHz with 1.5v vcore, but most of the time it runs at 2.4 GHz and 1.1v with EIST enabled. Grab Intel TAT from shintai.ambition.cz/files/tat.exe and RM Clock from cpu.rightmark.org

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Gee I just found that my Gigabyte Icool software doesn't work !! It stopped the fan and didn't start it back up again. CPU temp hit 80°C before I shut the PC down in a hurry. So be warned !

My mother board is the gigabyte GA-965SP-ds3, CPU is Intel E6600

Now I've disabled the fan control software in BIOS and Intel TAT is reporting 34°C on my E6600, with the fan going at 1726 RPM (max speed), I only have the stock intel CPU cooler.

I'm running the workload test in the Intel TAT, both cores 100% for 5 minutes, Temp at the end = 48°C

This might be a serious problem with I-Cool!!! I remember playing with it before I left home, but i dont think i saved changes. Next thing i come home and cpu @ 80.

Will give this TAT a try..

I recently built a E6400 on a Gigabyte 965P-S3 motherboard.

max temp was 62 as reported by core temp (after 14 hours of Orthos).

E6400 @ 3.08Ghz @ 1.3v with a stock cooler @ 1700rpm.

If you're worried about the temp, disable the fan throttling and have it at max speed.

Interesting threads, to say the very least, it appears that quite a few of you guys are experiencing overheating or very close to overheating.

Intel X6800 maximum temp' is 60C and the absolute maximum temp' is 80C.

Most of you guys need a much better thermal solution than what you currently have.

I hate to think what will happen to all of you in summer.

I have decided to stay with AMD, it appears that Conroe is a hotty. :)

of course the chip is gonna be hot if you overclock it, what do you expect? :P

But the 60 degrees reading what proggy is that using?

Cos i know that all my previous overclocks on the AMD machines had their temp recorded from Speedfan (which is about 10~15 degrees lower than what core temp reports).

I think ppl are not realizing how revolutionary the new temperature reading system is and that it displays much more accurate temps as its coming directly of the digital sensor on the die of each of the core of the cpu.

if you look at the temps obtained by the traditional analogue diode on the cpu, of course the temps are much lower but thats the same way the cpus are recorded on any processor up until now so you actually never knew what the real die temp of the cpu was.

you are not comparing like for like

Omarko has a point, the new TM2 diodes are located at the absolute hottest parts of the die in each core. The TM1, or analogue diode which is similar in design to the one included in Pentium 4 chips and later reflect the temps that we are used to. My TM1 probe might reads 24c right now while the TM2 diodes read 41c and 40c for each core respectively. Course, if you're overclocking and overvolting, Conroe will heat up just like any other chip.

Im just worried about heat issues in summer if a buy a conroe. My room will hit 40c at times because my window just so happens to face east. I have air conditioning but running that all day chews through the power.

Hmm, might have to buy a scythe ninja asap before the summer rush. I dont know if HS/fans jump in price like ram does?

MrTony writes...
I dont know if HS/fans jump in price like ram does?

Nah, and they rarely drop in price either.

I still think the stock fan is fine if you don't OC, Just turn off the automatic fan control in BIOS for now as I think that's buggy and may have interaction problems with other Gigabyte software like ICool on my Gigabyte Motherboard.

Running the stock fan flat out at 1700 rpm isn't loud at all and temps are looking okay at 37°C idle to 48°C 100% both cores.

Agreed on all points Orion03

guff writes...

Nah, and they rarely drop in price either.

good to hear, i can bide my time

Orion03 writes...

Running the stock fan flat out at 1700 rpm isn't loud at all and temps are looking okay at 37°C idle to 48°C 100% both cores.

It depends what you classify as "loud". When the CPU fan is running at full speed, it is easily the loudest component in my machine (apart from intermittent HDD noise). But then, I specifically designed the PC to be reasonably quiet.

The Intel cooler is certainly not as loud as some other stock coolers I've had, but it's not exactly quiet at full-speed either.

I'm going to order the Big Typhoon tonight. It looks like it is one of the best coolers available, and by all reports is reasonably quiet.

I decided to see what the E6600 could clock to on stock cooling, and I'm stable at 3.0ghz, but the thing is.. the idle temp dropped, it now idles 5c cooler then default. Not complaining, but its a bit crazy :)

Omarko writes...

what is your room temp ? is the PC in a fridge ? LOL ... those temps are way too low .. I have a $550 watercooling kit and spent another $300 on case and high quality fans and I dont have temps like that ...

can you post a screenie ?

img174.imageshack.us/my....=coretempwt6.jpg

The room temp is around 15 degrees.

while talkin about temps, why dosn't everest show the temp of the core?

What programs hook directly into intel 'Conroes' digital thermal sensor on the processor ?

Is the bios hardware monitor able to accurately and reliably determine intel 'Conroes' temperature ?

Also does Intels "Conroe" have just the one DTS (digital thermal sensor) or two, (be specific, elaborate ) ?

Simon Henderson writes...

I decided to see what the E6600 could clock to on stock cooling, and I'm stable at 3.0ghz, but the thing is.. the idle temp dropped, it now idles 5c cooler then default. Not complaining, but its a bit crazy :)

I don't know about yours, but its similar in my system. I have a gigabyte motherboard and when you allow the mb to select its own vcore, its actually higher then what it should be... I overclock it and manually put the the voltage and its still stable running at 3.3G and just slightly cooler then normal.

I use TAT (Intel Thermal Analysis Tool) to record my Conroe temps, it uses the two digital sensors sitting above both cores. You can download it from here:

anonforums.com/builds/TAT.zip

Cheers

well
i tried 4 programs and 3 of them give diff readings
all under 100% load with side to case off
1. speedfan = 39 ( uninstall time)
2. asus pc probe II = 57!! (uninstall time)
3.intel thermal analysis = 52/52 for both cores
4. core temp beta = 52 and 51
so the last 2 programs seem decent ...
this is with ambient temp pretty low -_-

i knew i should of got aftermarket cooling...the stock heat sink was a bitch to put on also!

unfunkable writes...

i knew i should of got aftermarket cooling

Its never too late!

the stock heat sink was a bitch to put on also!

really? took me about 2 minutes. what trouble didya have?

unfunkable writes...

i knew i should of got aftermarket cooling...the stock heat sink was a bitch to put on also!

Putting on was a piece of pi$$ very easy, try getting it off will be a challenge :)

i read the manual and it said, press in until you hear a click...
so i kept pushing and pushing...i got clicks out of 3 of the screws, 4th one wouldnt..but the heat sink was tight so i jus pushed it as much as it could go (until i heard the mobo start to make funny sounds!) then i just stopped and left it there

ive taken it off 3 times to check and see if anything is wrong ( computer is for my bro, and he will ring and bitch if it overheats, cause his a noob that thinks, summer kills all comps -_- )

i found taking it off was easy...jus turned each knob anti clockwise until it loosens, then i just pulled the whole thing out...

unfunkable writes...

i found taking it off was easy..

Ditto

I must have bumped mine when putting in another network card, and so my CPU temp shot up and the machine started to beep.

And in the course of trying to get the thing back on I broke one of the plastic lugs :(

I went and ordered a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 and will install it tonight when I get home

Getting my Big Typhoon on nicely was a bit of a nightmare, but got there eventually at a steady pace, and yeah if my temp's (25-33) are correct with core temp I guess I am a lucky one with a cool chip and am stoked. Even if they are night totally right, everything still feels very nice and cool to touch after use around the cpu area.

Well the Big Typhoon drops the temp by at least 8 degrees..

So I'am not surprised that you have that temp...

I just put some AS5 on but it didn't make any difference at all on my temp.

Orion03 writes...

Running the stock fan flat out at 1700 rpm isn't loud at all and temps are looking okay at 37°C idle to 48°C 100% both cores.

Overclocked?

I get slightly better temps with Big Typhoon and 25% OC (1333FSB), 667 memory, dialed back to 533 which comes back up to 667 when OCd ;-)

Orion03 writes...

still think the stock fan is fine if you don't OC, Just turn off the automatic fan control in BIOS for now as I think that's buggy and may have interaction problems with other Gigabyte software like ICool on my Gigabyte Motherboard.

I couldn't agree more.

The problem with having the motherboard control the fan speed is that it isn't getting an accurate reading of the core temp, so it will spin the fan a lot slower than what it should be because it falsely thinks the CPU is running cool.

Turning the automatic fan control off will lower temps by 6-8c on its own, and it wont really make much more noise.

Spot on, first thing I did when building my system was to disable the auto fan control, now reaping the benefits!!

Conroe E6600
Asus P5wdh deluxe

CPU Temp: 36c on average
MB Temp: 40c on average

No overclocking. I have 4 normal fans in the case.

I believe both of those temperature should be under 35 if i didn't use GeForce7950gx2 which causes a crap load of heat in the computer case. Also consider the Thermaltake 750w p/s, which causes even more heat.

Yesturday was 28 degrees, pretty much the same in my room...
So both went up to

CPU: 41c
MB: 45c

I fear the summer..
=_=

Yeah Yesterday I was getting about 42 Degrees...

Its funny thou if I don't play any games and just browse etc, it will say at 35 but once I put a game on and the finish playing the game it will stay 42.

Funny aye.

P.S just built a new system for a friend AMD X2 3600+ runs at 18 degrees idle !

Can any of you guys tell me what temperature Intels E6600 processor is shutting off at I belive it may be between 81C and 85C can any one confirm whether this is correct (THERMTRIP#)?

Make sure your using Intels TAT software.

I am doing a bit of research into Conroe it appears that IOCH8R chipset is the chipset of choice,because it contains an integrated PECI host controller this chip receives thermal data from the DTS (digital thermal sensors) on the processor.

Absolute maximum 85C

Yeah Im using TAT.

Hades writes...

What is the rpm of the cpu fan when you set to 100%?

I think around 1700rpm to 1800rpm.

Well, that's my E6400 anyway.

MrTony writes...

... because once it didnt come back on, until I opened the case and gave it a push. Scary.

Exactly the same thing with my E6400, now I have my fan running at full speed all the time.

Hades writes...

Absolute maximum 85C

Yeah Im using TAT.

Intels E6600 maximum temperature is Tc 61C and the absolute maximum is 80C.

So you have a intel E6600 and it shuts off at (85C), is this what you are stating ?

From what I can gather it appears that Core 2 Duo has two ways of measuring internal core temperature, 1. DTS (digital thermal sensor/s) and 2. the thermal diode.

What I would like to know is which heat sensor activates THERMTRIP# is it the more accurate DTS or is it the thermal diode I would logically think the DTS would be better because its more accurate which begs the question why have a thermal diode ?

Is anyone else finding the conroe range running a little hotter than usual of is it just me.

Or perhaps it's this god damn heat here in sydney.

Stock now im seeing my e6600 running at 44 idle with a big typhoon and if i enable the C1E thingy it drops to 40.

But soon as i overclock to 3.2ghz its reaching 48 idle.

I'm only asking cause my amd i think use to run alot cooler even overclocked but then again it wasn't nowhere near overclocked like 3.2ghz :)

I'm only going by the voltage supplied to the cpu my amd use to take 1.42 volts to reach 2.8ghz and now intel e6600 is getting 1.3625 volts for 3.2ghz and seems to run hotter.

Just ordered a Tuniq Tower 120 see if that makes a difference.

Well I had to max out my fans today, and its getting very noisy :(

M3Zephyer writes...

What I would like to know is which heat sensor activates THERMTRIP# is it the more accurate DTS or is it the thermal diode

According to the Intel documents, THERMTRIP is asserted due to Tc rising to ~20C over its maximum of 60.1C, causing a total device shutdown. Intel define Tc as the temp at the top dead centre of the IHS, so I imagine they monitor it using a thermal diode beneath the IHS.

The DTS temps are used to control thermal throttling and this appears to activate at 85C (core temp, not Tc or IHS temp).

I would imagine that THERMTRIP would only ever be asserted in the case of a total cooling system failure, as the core temp would probably exceed 85C before Tc could reach ~80C and clock throttling would quickly bring temps back down (assuming the cooling system is still actually working).

I had the stock cooler on my E6600 and my CPU was sitting around 47-50 idle using core temp and up 62 under load.

I just put in a Artic Freezer 7 Pro and now my CPU sits 39 idle and no more than 47 under load

Much happier

I had the stock cooler on my E6600 and my CPU was sitting around 47-50 idle using core temp and up 62 under load.

I just put in a Artic Freezer 7 Pro and now my CPU sits 39 idle and no more than 47 under load

Much happier

Yeah much better tonight since there is a cool breeze temperatures have dropped 37/38 idle phew. Summer is gonna be interesting lol :)

Shakow writes...

I had the stock cooler on my E6600 and my CPU was sitting around 47-50 idle using core temp and up 62 under load.

Why worry, that's the temp to which nearly all C2D run at anyways.

Mine idles 45 and loads around 65 with CoreTemp.

But if you use Speedfan then it's around 30 idle and 40 load....use Speedfan if that will give you a peace of mind (I do ;)).

< < L a w > > writes...

But if you use Speedfan then it's around 30 idle and 40 load....use Speedfan if that will give you a peace of mind (I do ;)).

The temps shown by Speedfan and (most) motherboard BIOS will probably be using the older thermal diode beneath the heat-spreader. In my opinion, this is the only C2D temperature that is directly comparable to previous processors.

BCGuy writes...

In my opinion, this is the only C2D temperature that is directly comparable to previous processors.

That's my exact opinion as well.

So this idea of C2D running hot is just myth.

< < L a w > > writes...

So this idea of C2D running hot is just myth.

I think it's mostly a myth, at least when the C2D are run at stock speeds and volts, but they do seem to heat up rapidly as you increase the volts, but so do the other 65nm processors I have tried.

I just checked my old P4 with Speedfan....it's at 48C.

Using Speedfan, I am getting 26C on my E6400 right at this moment, which is pretty darn low compared to P4.

BCGuy writes...

so I imagine they monitor it using a thermal diode beneath the IHS.

I find this hard to believe, the digital thermal sensors are more accurate and faster being located in the core not under the IHS, the DTS is also hooked into PECI which is also hooked into the MCH and the IOCH8R.

M3Zephyer writes...

I find this hard to believe, the digital thermal sensors are more accurate and faster being located in the core not under the IHS

I agree it would make more sense to use the DTS units. I am just repeating what is in the Intel documents which seem to suggest that it is Tc that triggers THERMTRIP. Although, the documents are a bit vague as to how all these thermal circuits interact (if at all).

BCGuy writes...

Although, the documents are a bit vague as to how all these thermal circuits interact (if at all).

I think if I do decide to get a Core 2 Duo in the coming months it will definitely have the i965 chipset that has the PECI host controller.

Also I think I might look at getting a BTX case and mainboard instead of the normal full ATX.

Antec have a reasonable BTX case that I don't mind.

I still think the DTS is the one they must surely be using this is only logical.

Perhaps the thermal diode under the IHS is used as a cross reference to back up the data coming from the two cores, but I some how feel that the DTS is what activates THERMTRIP#.

So what do you think activates PROCHOT# the thermal diode under the IHS or DTS around the cores ?

M3Zephyer writes...

So what do you think activates PROCHOT# the thermal diode under the IHS or DTS around the cores ?

I'd say the PROCHOT signal is definitely based on the temps returned by the DTS. I say this because PROCHOT is asserted whenever the Thermal Control Circuit (TCC) has been activated and the Intel documents are quite clear that it is the DTS temps that trigger the TCC.

IMHO I have NFI WTF you are talking about.

Tony

I have a Gigabyte Aurora case which has a single 12cm intake and 2 12cm exhaust fans, 7950gx2, Silverstone Zeus 850w psu and an E6600.

I have OCed the E6600 to 2.7 GHz (about all I can get so far on the P5N32 SLI SE mobo) and under load (well over an hour of BF2 at max settings and WoW) the CPU was reporting 50 deg and motherboard at 40 deg. Idle is around 40 for the cpu and 35 for the motherboard.

I figured this was normal?

sounds normal. I've gotten higher temps running dual prime95, up at around 60 deg using core temp.

MrTony writes...

sounds normal. I've gotten higher temps running dual prime95, up at around 60 deg using core temp.

My E6400 reached 70C after stressing it with TAT on a hot day.

Right now idling at 44C both cores with CoreTemp.

< < L a w > > writes...

My E6400 reached 70C after stressing it with TAT on a hot day.

What was the temperature in the room and what case and cooling are you using ?

M3Zephyer writes...

What was the temperature in the room and what case and cooling are you using ?

Cpu is stock cooling.

room temp...no idea, prob 24C but aircond not on.

Case is Antec Performance.

< < L a w > > writes...

Case is Antec Performance.

Hmm there are quite a few performance 1 cases, which one is it ?

www.antec.com/us/product...php?ProdID=81800

M3Zephyer writes...

Hmm there are quite a few performance 1 cases, which one is it ?

This one www.antec.com/us/product...php?ProdID=61050

< < L a w > > writes...
This one www.antec.com/us/product...php?ProdID=61050

Do you have 2 80mm installed in the front?

< < L a w > > writes...

This one www.antec.com/us/product...php?ProdID=61050

OK - that is the one I built for my sister, its a good case except for the door which annoys me a little.

ty.

M3Z'

guff writes...

Do you have 2 80mm installed in the front?

No fans at the front....where I get the fan and how can I install it?

< < L a w > > writes...
No fans at the front....where I get the fan and how can I install it?

Should really have at least 1 in there, ideally 2. You can get them from any computer shop, standard 80x25. They just click in, no screws required. There is a mounting position behind one of the drive cages, the other one is situated down below. I'm using a couple of Zalman 80x15 (thin) under-volt'd to 5V they are pretty quiet. There's also the air filter in the front which can also get dusty, not hard to remove though.

guff writes...

Should really have at least 1 in there, ideally 2.

I see, thanks for that....how much are the fans, I can't imagine them being expensive....

Depends where you get them from, and what type. IMO, it is worth investing in a silent pair like Nexus from pccasegear, that way you don't need to under-volt them. The Zalman I bought were $15 which come with the voltage connector (they are noisy without it), most shops sell generic fans for $5-10.

guff writes...

Depends where you get them from

ok local shop got one for $5, so how do i under-volt them?

< < L a w > > writes...
ok local shop got one for $5, so how do i under-volt them?

Assuming the fans have 3-pin connectors, you can use something like this.

www.pccasegear.com/prod3267.htm

guff writes...

www.pccasegear.com/prod3267.htm

Ta.

I managed to get two 80mm coolermaster fans ($5 each) like you suggested guff. It's cooling the hdd pretty well and your right, I need to step down the noise.

Any one know what the max safe operating temperature is for the Intel 965 chipset?

i tried tat , i think its the most accurate one and lets you workload the cpus to 100%
it was very close to core temp, almost identical and my asus probe was a little out (4-5°c higher)

so with my e6600 @3ghz and max fan speed (stock hsf) my idle is at 41-43°c for both core and at 100% workload is at 53-57°c.

is that safe or should i clock my cpu back to stock ???

Here's a shot of my updated rig.

img211.imageshack.us/my....=p160fanskd5.jpg

Cooling:
1) Swapped stock cooler for Scythe Infinity - replaced standard scythe fan with Antec Smartfan.
2) Front fan is Antec smartfan.
3) Replaced standard Antec exhaust fan with Scythe S-Flex 1600. Installed Zalman fanmate to slow this fan but quiet enough not to bother with.
4) Installed PCI anywhere rack and installed standard Antec fan blowing upwards.

System pretty cool. Idle temps:
PC Probe II: CPU + MB 32c
Coretemp: 35c
Asus Suite: CPU 31c System 32c

Never seems to go above 45c underload and usually sits at 40c. Quite happy with that.

Geeez thats one big HFS.

Was there much difference with the Stock HFS?

Supermonkey, what was your room temp when u took those measurements, also was your case close and how long has it been on ?

I get similiar temps to yours with a $500 watercooling kit ... at room temp of 28C

If your running an ASUS P5B Deluxe or P5WDH, a lot of people are suggesting taking the brass covers of the Northbridge and Southbridge to improve air flow to the heatsinks (why ASUS put these over them is beyond me).

Other suggestions to lower board temperatures are to install a 40mm fan over the "bridge" heatsinks and re-seat the bridge heatsinks with a better thermal paste.

There's a useful and interesting guide to preparing the P5WDH for C2D here. Most of the ideas apply to the P5B Deluxe as well.

Hades writes...

Was there much difference with the Stock HFS?

I went from a Stock HFS to a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, on my E6600, and have noticed a drop in excess of 10C for both IDLE and LOAD temps.

I am using Core Temp to measure temps

I went from a Stock HFS to a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, on my E6600, and have noticed a drop in excess of 10C for both IDLE and LOAD temps.

I am thinking of getting the Arctic Freezer as well.....is the installation four pin mounting (like the stock HSF?).

Omarko writes...

Supermonkey, what was your room temp when u took those measurements, also was your case close and how long has it been on ?

It was about 24-25c room temperature. System had been on about an hour. Case was closed.
Initially I didn't notice much difference at idle with the new heatsink cooler but seems to have settled in - main improvement is with the load temperatures. Exhaust fan in combo with PCI mounted fan seem to make a difference especially for the mobo.

< < L a w > > writes...

I am thinking of getting the Arctic Freezer as well.....is the installation four pin mounting (like the stock HSF?).

Yep, which concerned me a little as I broke to the stock HSF trying to put it back on :(

But the Arctic went on no probs at all

But the Arctic went on no probs at all

Ok, so no need to take the mobo out from the case...just making sure :P

on stock i used to have these temps
Core temp beta = 52 and 51 (under 100% load both co