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User #80782 1708 posts
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I wrote this guide as my two D-Link adapters were annoying me and refusing to work
My setup --------
Router -> ethernet -> PC with DWL-G630 -> wireless -> Laptop with DWL-G510
Drivers ------- You should get these drivers for the DWL-G630 Rev D www.gigabyte.com.tw/Supp....ver&FileID=2644 or here www.gigabyte.com.tw/Supp....tName=GN-WP01GT
You should get the these drivers for the DWL-G510 Rev C www.ralinktech.com/drive....506_0.0.1.6.exe
Install them The Ra-Link Drivers select Raconfig to manage the wireless not Wireless Zero config & when prompted for Wi-Fi or performance mode, I selected Wi-Fi
After installing, reboot, if you can't see your wireless card in the control panel go to system settings and install drivers manually
Firewall -------- Firstly, we need to test if we can ping the PC from the laptop control panel -> Windows Firewall - On Advanced tab -> select your wireless network card -> settings -> icmp -> allow incoming echo request -> YES
in the command prompt of the laptop type (start -> run -> command) ping -n 10000 192.168.0.1
This won't work at first smile.gif Just leave it running
Set up the IP addresses ----------------------- Now, these two cards are very fussy
For the main PC connected to the internet go to control panel -> network connections -> This computer connects directly to the internet and follow the rest of the prompts to complete setup
now right click on the wireless adapter go to properties IP address 192.168.0.1 Subnet 255.255.255.0 Gateway 10.0.0.138 #your router
Preferred DNS 10.0.0.138 #your router or ISP DNS IP Alternate DNS 192.168.0.1 #anything here or ISP DNS IP #2
For the laptop which is going to connect through our PC select This computer connects through another PC and follow the rest of the prompts to complete setup
now right click on the wireless adapter go to properties IP address 192.168.0.2 Subnet 255.255.255.0 Gateway 192.168.0.1 #your gateway PC
Preferred DNS 10.0.0.138 #your router or ISP DNS IP Alternate DNS 192.168.0.1 #anything here or ISP DNS
Set up the driver options (Most are defaults, but for clarity they are stated) ----------------------------- right click on the wireless adapter go to properties -> configure ->
for the RT61 (DWL-G510) you have these options
Adhoc wireless mode -> 802.11 G only Auto Channel Select -> Disable Auto Reconnect Mode -> Enable B/G Protection -> Auto CAM when AC Power -> Disable Country Region 11A -> Ch(36-48) #for australia #this shouldn't matter as we don't use 802.11A but set it correctly for your regulatory domain Country Region 11G -> 1 - 13 #for australia Fragment Threshold -> 2347 Frame Aggregation -> Enable IEEE802.11h -> Enable #something to do with interferring with fighter jets and their radar, please enable unless you want to get blown up tongue.gif Local Administration MAC Network -> empty Network Type -> Infrastructure Power Saving Mode -> Fast_PSP (power save mode) Radio On/Off -> Enable RTS Threshold -> 2346 SSID -> SoftAP-0 WMM Capable -> Enable
for the Atheros AR5211 (DWL-G630) you have these options
802.11b Preamble -> Long and Short Map registers -> 256 Network Address -> Not present Power Save Mode -> Normal Radio On/Off -> On Scan Valid Interval -> 60
Setting up the Config Programs ---------------------------------- --------- I'll just state how to set up managed mode as it's slightly faster than Ad-Hoc (I got 2.1MB/s compared to 1.8MB/s max throughput this is much faster than the 0.8MB/s I was getting before updating drivers) and it has WPA/WPA2 as opposed to WEP which is insecure, but just change the settings to ad-hoc to get ad-hoc, you can even use 54Mbps with it too
Enabling TX burst pushes the speed up to 3MB/s
For the RT61 -> system tray -> Right click on RA icon -> Access point mode Wireless Mode -> 802.11G Only TX Rate -> Auto #or 54MB/s Channel -> 11 SSID -> SoftAP-0 B/G Protection -> Auto #May not be needed since we are using G only but set on anyway TX Burst -> Enable #proprietory but gives a speed boost No Forwarding among wireless clients -> Unticked Preamble -> Short Preamble #smaller preamble with each frame Hide SSID -> Unticked Beacon(ms) -> 60 Use Short Slot -> Unticked #makes internet lose packets I think TX Power -> 100% #tbh you can use lowest power and you will get around 1.4Mb/S not much lost Auto Channel Selection at next boot -> Unticked
For the Atheros AR5211 -> system tray -> right click on atheros icon -> Open Gigabyte client utilty
Click on smart setup 3 -> The wireless access point should appear, click ok Set up a profile name then go to advanced
Transmit power level -> 100% #once again lower power may be better for a laptop and won't cause much speed decrease at close range Power Save Mode -> Normal #set to normal so that it comes out of powersaving mode for large file sizes and transfers faster but then goes back to max power saving mode Network Type -> Infrastructure 802.11b preamble -> long & short Wireless mode -> Tick 2.4Ghz 54Mbps & Extended range #you can check or uncheck 11Mbps, doesn't matter QoS -> tick #why not? tongue.gif
Now it all should just work, check your command prompt to see what's going on, you should be seeing ping replies
WPA can be set up quite simply for the RALink go to Auth Vs Security and WPA2-PSK -> encryption type can be AES (more secure) for the Atheros go to Security tab and set it up there
---------------- Something I am confused about is that I should be getting 54Mbits/s /8 -> 6.75 MByte/s but I don't seem to be getting anywhere near that, any ideas?
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posted 2006-May-8, 5pm AEST
edited 2006-May-10, 12pm AEST
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User #80782 1708 posts
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-> email to Atheros
Hi there,
I have found something intriguing with your latest drivers for the Atheros 5005G / 5211 chip
I've had a play around with the Atheros based card, the D-Link DWL-G630 rev C and i've determined that it only uploads at 1Mbit/s under windows in G mode, but downloads at 3Mbit/s, I then installed linux and used the Atheros drivers on that and it uploads and downloads at 3Mbit/s, suggesting a problem with the windows Atheros drivers
This is for driver version 4.2.0.374.02 under windows and linux madwifi drivers
[4294688.757000] ath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. [4294688.758000] ath_hal: 0.9.14.9 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413) [4294688.853000] ath_rate_sample: 1.2 [4294688.860000] ath_pci: 0.9.6.0 (EXPERIMENTAL) [4294689.451000] ath0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps [4294689.451000] ath0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps [4294689.451000] ath0: H/W encryption support: WEP AES AES_CCM TKIP [4294689.451000] ath0: mac 7.8 phy 4.5 radio 5.6 [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 1 for WME_AC_BE traffic [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 0 for WME_AC_BK traffic [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 2 for WME_AC_VI traffic [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 3 for WME_AC_VO traffic [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 8 for CAB traffic [4294689.451000] ath0: Use hw queue 9 for beacons [4294689.451000] ath0: Atheros 5212: mem=0x42000000, irq=185
Another problem with the windows drivers, it states that it is within the Danish regulatory domain which is incorrect and the power level sometimes states 63mW this needs to be fixed.
I'd also like to suggest or ask that you contact D-Link regarding their lack of updates for their drivers, since you yourselves do not distribute the drivers directly and we, the customers, rely on the card manufacturers to provide us with your latest drivers.
I look forward to your response
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No doubt I won't receive a reply
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posted 2006-May-13, 11pm AEST
edited 2006-May-13, 11pm AEST
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User #80782 1708 posts
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On another note there's a bug with the Rt61 1.1.0.0 windows drivers which causes a BSOD, i've posted on their forum but there's been no reply in a week and the bug has occured 3/4 times since then
61.222.76.235/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2190
I believe it is either a problem with the ApUI.exe (Access point program) or WPA2-PSK on the unit, use ad-hoc mode which uses RaUi.exe and WEP otherwise you will get random crashes
I will wait a few more days to see if the problem reoccurs in a few different setups and then I will email ralink (and of course it probably goes to /dev/null but nevertheless you can only but try!)
Here are some more bugs- With RaUI, setting wireless mode to G (or anything else) forces it to B and can only be fixed in the control panel, meaning loss of connectivity
Occasional 2000 pings to router+packet loss (interspersed with 1ms pings) after moving the router further away, fixed by disabling TX Burst mode
Ping to router for RT61 is 30ms for RT61 but with Atheros card AR5005G was 1ms, both in same room, setting router to range mode instead of performance(speed) mode fixed this or it could have been turning off broadcast RIP packets fixed this not too sure (router is netgear WPNT834 with MIMO, same problem experienced with d-link G604T)
Also there's a bug when changing to WPA/WPA2-PSK modes (between TKIP and AES) etc, the wireless mode goes to B/G and has to be changed in the control panel to G (still states G in RaUI)
Here are two wikis (with info about WPA/WPA2)
One for the AR5212
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar5212
One for the RT61
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rt61
Enjoy :)
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posted 2006-May-13, 11pm AEST
edited 2006-May-15, 8pm AEST
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User #80782 1708 posts
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Email to RaLink/Dlink and Atheros/Dlink regarding a lot of issues I think are important
Dear Sir/Madam,
I have recently, unfortunately purchased a D-Link DWL G510 rev C (Australia), which integrates one of your products, the RT61 chipset
The D-Link drivers for this card are appalling and cause frequent dropouts, if I am able to connect at all, they are old and D-Link don't seem to keep up to date manufacturers drivers,
I found your website (quite difficult actually) and installed the latest 1.1.0.0 drivers for your card,
I have posted on your forum but have not received a reply or acknowledgement that my problem is being looked into
I have attempted to contact the moderator Paul Lin but that is disabled, Ralink do not provide a technical support email so I have forwarded this to any that I could find, apologies if this reaches you in error
There are lude posts on your forum which are not being moderated
I will get to the gist of what I am trying communicate to yourselves,
The latest drivers incorporate RaUI, the Ralink configuration utility for connecting to a wireless access point, the drivers have various problems, after a reboot or return from hibernation the wireless network continuously disconnects/reconnects, unless I 'activate' the connection manually and change the wireless mode to 'G' in the control panel, it also randomly resets to the wrong mode (B or B/G instead of G) when the following is done, connecting to a wireless network (manually using activate) or changing WPAPSK/WPA2PSK modes, I have to keep changing the setting in the control panel to G mode
The card seems to not work properly with wireless zero configuration, there are ping spikes every 100 or so pings to 1800ms, this I am not able to remedy despite changing all the settings available, this problem does not occur when using RaUI
So where does this leave me? messing around with RaUI every time my PC reboots so that I can get it to connect
Another problem I had when I used the D-Link drivers and initially when I used your drivers was that my ping to my router (both my old D-Link G604T and my new Netgear WPNT834) was 30ms above that of the G630 Rev D Atheros 5005G chipset for no apparent reason, I haven't been able to recreate this problem unfortunately so cannot diagnose what caused it or how I fixed it
There are also further problems with ApUI, when running my computer as an access point for my laptop (which has an Atheros 5005G chipset as above)
I have had these errors
STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000000,0x00000002,0x00000000, 0xF80D413B)
RT61.sys - Address F80D413B base at F8090000, DateStamp 440fa1ff
STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000008,0x00000002,0x00000000, 0xF81E5B1D)
NDIS.sys - Address F81E5B1D base at F81CE000, DateStamp 41107ec3
Both computers are connected via 802.11g only and WPA2-PSK with 128bit encryption
The strange thing about this problem is that I can transfer 1GB of data with no error, but as soon as my wife starts browsing the net on her laptop, sometimes within 10 mins, sometimes more, the PC crashes
Hopefully someone can look into these problems, provide a fix and contact D-Link regarding updating their drivers.
Please could you add support for the user manually setting Preamble mode and finally, you&D-Link advertise the card as being a 54Mbit/s card, I would love to know how you get 54Mbit/s as I cannot achieve this even with the router and wireless card next to each other, transferring data from the from the PCI Card -> wireless -> router -> ethernet -> PC my maximum throughput is 2 to 3 Mbyte/s at best, considering this is a 54Mbit/s card I should get approximately 6.75 Mbytes/s throughput at best, even without a router when in Ad-Hoc mode the best I can achieve is 3Mbit/s, additionally upload speed varies from download speed, perhaps this is a driver bug or part of the 802.11g standard that I am not aware of?
I look forward to a response and a driver update
Kind regards
Dear Sir/Madam,
As a customer I am very disappointed in your lack of driver updates, especially as other card manufacturers have managed to obtain them from the chipset manufacturer, please find gigabyte branded Atheros Drivers for this chipset below
www.gigabyte.com.tw/Supp...ctName=GN-WP01GT
www.gigabyte.com.tw/Supp...iver&FileID=2644
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I received a reply from Ralink, they were pretty fast and courteous, they have also silently sent out a new driver update available here:
www.ralink.com.tw/driver...1606_0.0.2.0.exe
Also, here is my reply to the tech support email ---------------------------------- ---------------------
Thank you for your prompt reply, I have noticed your new uploaded drivers for the RT61 dated 16/05 and will give them a try
Ans: Can you run your adapter with Ralink's configuration utility? DWL G510 VID/PID is not added on Ralink's utility. How do you run it? Please advise.
The setup utility runs fine, but does not correctly install the drivers
These have to be manually installed in the control panel by selecting ralink -> wireless PCI card 1.1.0.0
FYI this is a DWL-G510 Rev C. (Australia)
Device Instance ID is PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&SUBSYS_3C091 186&REV_00\4&13699180&0&5048
Hardware IDs
PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&SUBSYS_3c091 186&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&SUBSYS_3c091 186 PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&CC_028000 PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&CC_0280
Compatible IDs PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302&REV_00 PCI\VEN_1814&DEV_0302 PCI\VEN_1814&CC_0280 PCI\VEN_1814 PCI\CC_028000 PCI\CC_0280
Matching Device ID pci\ven_1824&dev_0302&subsys_92301 6ef&rev_01
But of course you would already have this
RaUI (Ralink config utility) works perfectly except for the crazy problem of resetting the 'adhoc wireless mode' setting (which should really be 'wireless mode') in the control panel whenever the connection is reset, the computer is rebooted or I change WPA2PSK settings as stated before
I have had my PC connected adhoc with WEP for a week fine with this, I have also had my PC connected to my router through WPA2PSK fine for a week now, apart from the disconnects every 30 minutes smile.gif
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Ans: Can you configure your PC as attached file shows? That will generate a memory.dmp when blue screen occurs. Please upload this file to ftp site:
Regarding ApUI and the random crash problems, I am uploading the files to your FTP now, 5 kernel crash dumps and several minidumps, I have compressed them with 7zip as this provides good compression for my low bandwidth, please use this to decompress ( www.7-zip.org )
I have sent five crash dumps that I managed to create using ApUI.exe, the first crash is with rt61.sys and the other four are with ndis.sys
The problem is sporadic and I can't determine the cause and does not occur with RaUI.exe
With the last crash my settings were: wireless mode 802.11b/g tx rate auto channel 6 tx burst enabled b/g protection auto preamble short tx power 100%
control panel adhoc wireless mode b/g mix auto channel select disabled auto reconnect mode enabled b/g protection auto country region 11a 36-48 country region 11g 1-13 fragment threshold 0 #appears to be set by ApUi for some reason? setting to 2346 is out of bounds (32 to 2346!) frame aggregation enabled IEEE802.11h enabled network type infra power saving mode fast_PSP radio on/off enabled WMM capable enabled
Atheros card 54mbps enabled 11mbps enabled XR enabled QoS enabled
I have several ideas as to what is causing the crashes, at first I could recreate them but I can't anymore, so here is some speculation
1. Is it a tx burst problem? i.e. incompatibility between AR5005G XR and RT61 Tx Burst?
With XR disabled the crash still occurs, so I assume no.
Tx Burst- enabled or disabled several times has caused ApUI to crash 3x, but I can't recreate this problem anymore
2. Is it a preamble problem? i.e. incompatibility between the AR5005G which has two modes, short&long and long and the RT61 which has two modes short and long?
Premable- Atheros uses short&long or short, ralink uses short or long
When the connection is reset several times/renegotiated, we crash, could this be incompatibility with wireless B mode? Atheros sending long packets and crashing RT61?
Once again I can't recreate the problem anymore
3. Could it just be an RaUI problem as ApUI works fine
RaUI works fine in both ad-hoc and infra for one week with exactly the same settings, why does ApuI not work in master for one hour? it crashes without any user interaction when transferring data, this problem still occurs randomly
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Ans: If the performance is poor and you are using Ralink's utility, please capture the screenshot of Status, Statistics and About page on Ralink's utility when test is running.
Regarding this
I have concluded the following,
The maximum throughput of my wireless network is 2.8Mb/s or 3Mb/s with the RT61 as Access point, this is from RT61 to AR5005G
The Atheros Windows drivers version 4.2.0.374.02 are faulty, upload speed from AR5005G send speed is 900kb/s, there is no such problem with the Linux madwifi atheros drivers which transfer at 3.3Mb/s and I have emailed Atheros regarding this and I have not received a reply. Note the increased linux driver speed gave a small speed boost to the RT61 to increase the tx speed to 3.3Mb/s.
When RaUI is used in Ad-Hoc mode the RT61 card sends at 2Mb/s and the Atheros card sends at 750kb/s under windows, why is Ad-Hoc mode slower than Access point mode for the RT61 chipset?
When connected to a router, my new Netgear WPNT834, network speed decreases significantly (this is in RaUI Infra mode) RT61 sends at 1.2Mbit/s (AR5005G sends at 800Kbit/s), is this a feature of Wireless G networks? (i.e. maybe only one device can use the channel at a time as the speed doubles when I connect one via ethernet?)
The router is set up as follows: channel 6 I have tried wireless G/up to 126mbit/s/up to 240mbit/s modes
Both cards state 54mbit/s connection
I have a attached the screenshots as requested these are the stats after uploading 200mb and downloading 200mb, with ethernet - router - ethernet and wireless - router - wireless setups
Note the increased CRC errors when the second wireless card is connected to the router? why is this?
Note the atheros cards stats show significantly less CRC errors than the RT61 card? why is this?
I should also mention that with this router there is a 'wireless interference' setting of range, adequate speed and performance and performance, when set to performance I can't connect with the RT61 even at close range, why is this? but the AR5005G can connect to it
Additionally I have experienced problems in Linux with the latest drivers custom compiled for the 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel when in Ad-Hoc mode I find that the connection will go up but the two machines aren't able to ping each other when both under linux, I have to keep toggling channels until it eventually works, last night under windows the AR5005G could ping the RT61 but the RT61 in linux could not ping the AR5005G in windows? peculiar?
If you have any more queries don't hesistate to ask
Kind regards
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posted 2006-May-17, 12am AEST
edited 2006-May-18, 10pm AEST
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