|
User #79368 1729 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
how effective is peergardian 2 with making p2p a little more safer and Anonymous? if not at all what should be used?
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 2pm AEST
|
|
|
|
User #20334 2850 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
Pajero Exced writes... more safer and Anonymous?
Now you have done it!
Its like starting an AMD/Intel thread.
Your IP is still seen, but will you get breach notices for only being seen if they cant connect to confirm data transfers?
Is there IP address actually on the block list?
When these questions are answered then so can your how much "more safer" question. I use it, maybe a false sense of security, but no more breach notices.
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 2pm AEST
edited 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #79368 1729 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
what about the mpaa and other in usa what ever there names are?
and is it only if they catch you uploading not downloading?
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
edited 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #8101 5053 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
It's completely useless.
a) They have your IP address, preventing them from connecting to you doesn't change anything from a legal standpoint.
b) The blocklists are public submitted information, full of overly wide banmasks, legitimate IPs, and the like. Just as there are legitimate IPs on the list there are illegitimate IPs not on the list.
c) Since the blocklists are freely available to anyone they know exactly what IP ranges are on the list and what IP ranges are not.
d) There is nothing stopping them from using a outsourcing to another organisation with a different IP range.|
e) There is nothing stopping them from using a non-blocked, residential internet connection.
A false sense of security is worse than no security at all.
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
edited 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #30041 667 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
Does not help at all. If you want to be anonymous then use something like i2p and i2phex www.i2p.net forum.i2p.net/viewforum....4d36bc863d43d321
or less secure p2p such as AntsP2P antsp2p.sourceforge.net
Mute mute-net.sourceforge.net
and a comparison of different anonymous networks www.i2p.net/how_networkcomparisons
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #2070 32937 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
forum-replies.cfm?t=449748
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
|
|
User #20334 2850 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
Benjamin Disraeli writes... a) They have your IP address, preventing them from connecting to you doesn't change anything from a legal standpoint.
And how do you know this? have you been reading reports? attending US court hearings? where are the links, give us the facts.
Yes there are many ways they can get around the block list, but will they try? Do they need to try?
PG2 uses little resources and doesn't open up your PC to "no security at all"
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #79368 1729 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
FrankO writes... Does not help at all. If you want to be anonymous then use something like i2p and i2phex www.i2p.net
i downloaded this what does it do? seems to just sit in the tray?
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 3pm AEST
|
|
User #8101 5053 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
CAMS writes... And how do you know this? have you been reading reports? attending US court hearings? where are the links, give us the facts.
Perhaps you have read the reports of MPAA suing people who have never used P2P programs, suing users allegedly Kazaa on platforms such as MacOS where no such client exists, etc.
Most of them time they have little-to-no evidence other than a list of IP addresess along with timestamps which they send to ISPs, Universities, and the like, trying to obtain user information. Incidents like the ones I just mention are the byproduct -- they don't really have anything other than an IP.
I would also presume that you know that the majority of MPAA/RIAA cases are settled out of court.
BitTorrent is especially useful since the tracker will hand out the IPs no problem, inform them that you have 100% of the file and are uploading it to others, and the built in hash-checking ensures that you are seeding the infringing file and not garbage data, fake files, etc.
Do you really think they have to obtain a piece (or what, 100% completed file) from your IP to do something about copyright infringement? I suppose they sit down with a bucket of popcorn and watch your illegally obtained movies or play your illegally obtained games too?
In Australia, if a copyright holder alleges that your IP was allegedly infringing on your work, the ISP will not disclose your details -- but if your IP repeatedly comes up your connection can be suspended or terminated. But if the copyright holder obtains the appropriate warrant or the police, etc. want your details, the ISP will hand them over straight away.
If you're worried about any legally questionable activities you may be partaking in, there are anonymous or more-secure solutions out there. PeerGuardian is not one of them.
But you're more likely to die tomorrow than you are being arrested for copyright infringement. CAMS writes... Yes there are many ways they can get around the block list, but will they try? Do they need to try?
Do you really think that Joe Blow, MPAA worker, can't just drive home and use his residential cable connection? Or that it somehow requires effort?
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
edited 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
|
|
User #46546 789 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
There's a saying.
"I don't have to run faster than the bear. I just have to run faster than you."
If there are 50,000 people downloading movies and whatever, using p2p and 10,000 of those make life a tiny, fractional, itty bitty, little bit harder for whoever is going to prosecute then they've still got 40,000 they can go after with no resistance.
I know there are cases in America but I haven't heard of thousands. I've no idea how many actual cases have been raised in the US.
Does anybody have any real numbers (of US cases, projected illegal downloaders in Australia etc.)?
I keep hearing statistics that 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% of downloads are using the torrent protocol. I would imagine a fair amount of those are illegal.
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
|
|
User #79368 1729 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
where can one pay to download tv shows from the usa? eg. 24, ncis, las vegas they have movie download sites LEGAL but no tv show ones?
i would be willing to pay per epp!
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
|
|
User #8101 5053 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict
|
Pajero Exced writes... where can one pay to download tv shows from the usa? eg. 24, ncis, las vegas they have movie download sites LEGAL but no tv show ones?
i would be willing to pay per epp!
The big problem about that is licensing. Which is why Apple can't legally offer other countries the TV shows they sell on their US store, why they need a different store for each country, etc.
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
edited 2006-Mar-13, 4pm AEST
|
|
User #30041 667 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast
|
Pajero Exced writes... i downloaded this what does it do? seems to just sit in the tray?
Have a look at
forum-replies.cfm?t=480849
forum-replies.cfm?t=481514
Also concerning if anyone has been caught when using peerguardian, a friend of mine has received a copyright infringement notice from Sony via their ISP. They were using emule with an ipfilter.dat file which is similar to peerguardian. I do not know how up to date their file was. forum-replies.cfm?t=487068
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 5pm AEST
|
|
User #62440 7367 posts
In the penalty box
|
It is complete rubbish if you think it will give you ANY protection well it wont. If they want to sue you then a mass shared public ip blocker will not stop them at all. All it does i give noobs something to help them sleep at night
|
posted 2006-Mar-13, 6pm AEST
|