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User #57924   833 posts
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mybid.com.au/browse.php?id=269

my friend pointed out this website for me

any comments?

posted 2006-Feb-28, 1pm AEST
User #65525   630 posts
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Love to know how much the shipping charges are.

posted 2006-Feb-28, 1pm AEST
User #7954   2696 posts
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matteo writes...

Love to know how much the shipping charges are.

mybid.com.au/help.php?topic=Shipment

posted 2006-Feb-28, 1pm AEST
User #30897   165 posts
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Anyone purchased from these guys before?

posted 2006-Feb-28, 2pm AEST
User #22296   1176 posts
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matteo writes...

Love to know how much the shipping charges are.

mybid.com.au/help.php?topic=Shipment

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #15631   99 posts
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What about this -

You can pick-up your item if you prefer, available from Sydney.

Does that mean you then pay no shipping charges?

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #71661   848 posts
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delivery to melbourne - $120/pcm - is that per cubic metre?

So if the dimensions are 3.10m 92cm and 1.9m how much does that work out to ship

Footnote: Was never good at maths

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #5220   20977 posts
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whatssss'up writes...

You can pick-up your item if you prefer, available from Sydney.

Does that mean you then pay no shipping charges?


Sounds like it.

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
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N-Diddy writes...

delivery to melbourne - $120/pcm - is that per cubic metre?

So if the dimensions are 3.10m 92cm and 1.9m how much does that work out to ship


5.4188 * $120 PCM

$650.25 delivery to the city depot, pick up from depot in your state

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #71661   848 posts
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hmmmm well thats not too bad pending the price you get it for

cheers brian

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #45911   2709 posts
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Brian White writes...


$650.25 delivery


Well thats rather cheap then...

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #96923   6984 posts
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I'm sure the price of those will go up before the auction ends.

posted 2006-Feb-28, 3pm AEST
User #21048   3633 posts
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am I the only one to notice that ...

1) the web site looks like its been slapped up in a couple of days / very amateurish

2) suspects BS... why wouldn't they just use Ebay if this was genuine?

posted 2006-Feb-28, 6pm AEST
User #57924   833 posts
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Raging Bull writes...

2) suspects BS... why wouldn't they just use Ebay if this was genuine?

i dunno why it would be bs considering it allows for pickup

edit: the only thing i can thing of is if it has lots of phoney bidders to jack up the price
since they run the site they can propagate fake bidding

posted 2006-Feb-28, 6pm AEST
edited 2006-Feb-28, 6pm AEST
User #86619   1313 posts
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Looks fairly dodgy to me.

1) 'The photograph used is for illustration purposes only' . In other words it could look completely different.

2) 'Can I view the item I wish to bid on? No sorry this is an online auction only, we do not provide viewings.'. They allow pickups but not viewings. You can't pay after you have seen the goods you are planning to purchase.

3) 'Are the products covered by warranty? No, warranty is not included with our products.' This is illegal in Australia. Under the Trade Practices Act there are implied warranties.

If it sounds too good to be true then...

posted 2006-Feb-28, 7pm AEST
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ghulp writes...

You can't pay after you have seen the goods you are planning to purchase.

Actually, you may be able to if you live in Sydney. In their FAQs
What methods of payment do you accept?
We accept MasterCard, VISA, and Direct Deposit, or COD if you are picking up items from Sydney.


it might be worth a punt if the price stays in the single digits

posted 2006-Feb-28, 8pm AEST
User #85823   5326 posts
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COD if you are picking up items from Sydney.

suppose you could always view the item then go to your car to get your wallet then do a runner if it's dodgy

posted 2006-Feb-28, 8pm AEST
User #13264   3280 posts
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may be worth trying out.

says retail value 4000 dollars.

If you get it and its a POS just use a chargeback and let them fight over it if they want to.

posted 2006-Feb-28, 8pm AEST
User #51715   1314 posts
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Raging Bull writes...

1) the web site looks like its been slapped up in a couple of days / very amateurish

Site developer

posted 2006-Feb-28, 8pm AEST
User #66851   4327 posts
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Davem4 writes...


If you get it and its a POS just use a chargeback and let them fight over it if they want to.


how do you do that?

posted 2006-Mar-5, 7am AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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Man, their RRP are way jacked up. These are obviously chinese imports (if they were Aus made, you'd think they'd be going on about that as a selling point), it's probably combination leather (real leather on the front, fake on the back).

I'd only pay $4000 for a couch like that if it was from Integral Furniture, Moran or Pegar, manufacturers like that who are Aus made and damn good quality. $4000 for a chinese imported couch is a bit rich.

Check out some of the other couches in the lounge category, they've got fabric ones for $3,800. its only a 3 seater with chaise. I've got good australian made ones for less than half that, same design!

posted 2006-Mar-6, 7am AEST
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sesuburbslover writes...

how do you do that?

Contact your credit card supplier (usually one of the many banks) and say that the item was not as described, and you want to "Contest" the charge.., the bank will put a freeze on the funds, send you out some forms to fill in, and it takes UP TO 8 weeks for them to "Investigate".

posted 2006-Mar-6, 8am AEST
User #59342   138 posts
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Hah... "stainless steel plated legs"

Excuse me but how the fig do you plate using stainless steel?

posted 2006-Mar-6, 8am AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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DJR writes...

Excuse me but how the fig do you plate using stainless steel?

The Chinese can do ANYTHING.

posted 2006-Mar-6, 12pm AEST
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Junkrock writes...

mybid.com.au/browse.php?id=269

my friend pointed out this website for me

any comments?


No listing there anymore ?

posted 2006-Mar-9, 6pm AEST
User #80207   1642 posts
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Ashli writes...

No listing there anymore ?

Website said something about auctions starting Fridays and ending Thursdays. Probably over for this week - maybe new stuff tomorrow, maybe not?

posted 2006-Mar-9, 7pm AEST
User #80207   1642 posts
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Next auction starts tomorrow...

posted 2006-Mar-10, 12pm AEST
User #86374   1389 posts
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So, did anyone buy from the first lot?

posted 2006-Mar-10, 1pm AEST
User #13264   3280 posts
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Herryn Dinch writes...

So, did anyone buy from the first lot?

Hopefully someone from sydney tried it out seeing as you can pick up the goods.

posted 2006-Mar-10, 4pm AEST
User #80207   1642 posts
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They're only adding some new items onto their site now...

posted 2006-Mar-11, 3pm AEST
User #38694   481 posts
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So anyone actually bought anything from their site yet?

I emailed them today to enquire about pickup location and got a very prompt reply answering my question, so they cantbe entirely dodgey.......maybe.

posted 2006-Sep-27, 5pm AEST
User #141124   3 posts
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I got sucked in and bid on the "chinese reproduction furniture". I won an item for $200 an opted to pickup. I hired a ute and organised to pickup at 11am. Noone showed up and the adjacent warehouses said noone had been there all day. I organised again and the place was open but noone there. I went in and had a sticky and thought what a load of junk. I checked out all the chinese furniture and it was so cheap. If a bit of a breeze blew up then it would blow over. I was making my escape when these two dudes showed up. Talk about rough and one of them farted. I ended up giving them the money and took the cabinet but it was a rip off. To say the rrp was $1200 is a lie. If anyone is thinking of the leather couches resist. They are so elcheapo.

posted 2006-Oct-18, 9pm AEST
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femfatale writes...

Talk about rough and one of them farted.

LOL, next time bring some friends so you won't feel intimidated.

I would have just walked right back out, but if you had already paid - I guess you have to cut your loses and bring something back.

posted 2006-Oct-18, 9pm AEST
User #129701   508 posts
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femfatale writes...

I ended up giving them the money and took the cabinet but it was a rip off.

I cannot believe you paid them the money. If you thought it was rubbish, then regardless of what you thought of whether or not they might be intimidating, tell them what you think and leave. Don't ever feel the need to buy out of obligation. Otherwise I've got plenty of rubbish if you wanna bring over wads of cash!

posted 2006-Oct-18, 9pm AEST
User #86314   4934 posts
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$200 you got a pretty good deal. Everybody wants something for nothing these days.

posted 2006-Oct-19, 10am AEST
User #38694   481 posts
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Did you happen to see any of the office chairs while you were there?

They looked OK.......

posted 2006-Oct-19, 10am AEST
User #130650   1757 posts
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femfatale writes...

I got sucked in and bid on the "chinese reproduction furniture"

Care to upload some picks and provide a link?

posted 2006-Oct-19, 10am AEST
User #141124   3 posts
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The thing was there was this big build up about me bidding on the item so I felt compelled to produce something and I deliberately wanted to pick up and sus the joint out because I never felt confident. e.g. the testomonials are a joke.
I had some communication with Mybid prior to going there (in regard me picking up) and I already thought then the seller sounded rough. And when I mean rough I mean just plain basic as you can get. Sometimes people can sound a bit raw but they are still intelligent - they just do not put on any airs and graces.
These guys think they are smart because everyone is bidding like mad. The thing is if the buyers got a window in like I did and these guys were more exposed they would not be selling anything. The advertising is very misleading because they put a very inflated RRP. It is such a lie.
At least I thought I have only paid $200 which is a lot less than what some bidders are paying. The piece of furniture was for a little boy so I dont know how long it will last. Anyway I have learnt. I do not go anywhere near Mybid now I can assure you.

posted 2006-Oct-19, 9pm AEST
User #141124   3 posts
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The thing is about Mybid after it is over there is no evidence of anything left. Unlike ebay where the whole process is much more transparent. Still not perfect and lots of scope for rorting but nothing like Mybid.
I would have to take a picture of the item to show you what I bought. In some ways it looks like the picture at the auction although there were never any dimensions supplied even though I requested prior to bidding.
When I did pick up it was a lot smaller than what I thought and I could have used my hatchback than go to the expense of hiring a ute.

posted 2006-Oct-19, 9pm AEST
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femfatale writes...

The thing is about Mybid after it is over there is no evidence of anything left. Unlike ebay where the whole process is much more transparent.

Can I ask how you came across them? Was it from a search, or have they advertised somewhere?

posted 2006-Oct-19, 11pm AEST
User #143668   3 posts
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If you go to google and type "furniture auction", the site comes up as a sponsored link.

I have also bought an item that I was not totally satisfied with. I did actually receive it, but there were some differences to the description and picture shown. I'll let you all know how the issue resolution goes.

posted 2006-Nov-6, 9am AEST
User #37789   1202 posts
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It sounds like this warehouse sellnig chinese merchandise in homebush. the prices there are pretty dear but some of their stuff are quality. genuine marble tabletops were definately worth considering. To the single posters whats the address they gave you anyway. Might be the same warehouse. Judging by what femefatale said .. it might be the one i went to.

posted 2006-Nov-7, 10pm AEST
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I sent them an email with my issues, which were:
1. Advertised it as being 2100m long. It is infact only 2m long.
2. The picture shows wider teak slats. The slats in the table I received are about half the width of that shown.
3. There is a big black footprint stain at one end of the table, which does not wipe off.

I received a call about an hour later where the guy said "If you are not totally satisfied with the product, then return it and we will give you a 100% refund". Once I asked a few more questions I found out that, as per their clearly stated terms and conditions:
- 100% does not include shipping charges, which for me was $238
- Return to them is at my own cost

So, clearly it is not in my interest to return it. Perhaps he knew that. What he ultimately promised to do was:
1. Send me $50 as compensation
2. Correct the description to a length of 2m rather than 2.1m

For those that are interested, the setting that I bought was the same description as this one:
www.mybid.com.au/item.php?id=4795

I should point out that the setting is quite nice and will be nicer once I sand back and re-finish the teak. Is it worth the $1000 that I paid to get it to my door? Probably not, but for the $700-800 that it would have cost someone to collect directly, it's probably good value.

If they fulfil their promises then I'd say that they are the level. If not, then I will repost with follow on escalation actions. I do not intend to let them get off lightly.

posted 2006-Nov-8, 10am AEST
User #52434   813 posts
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I reckon they buy these stuff bulk, so they just got a container shipped with random furniture in them and put it for auction. The cost is very low so even if you think you're making a good deal, they already got a hefty profit out of you...

posted 2006-Nov-8, 11am AEST
User #143668   3 posts
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"So, clearly it is not in my interest to return it. Perhaps he knew that. What he ultimately promised to do was:
1. Send me $50 as compensation
2. Correct the description to a length of 2m rather than 2.1m"

They did send me the $50 refund and they did update the description. They did not update the picture. So, I would say that the business is legitimate but prospective bidders need to ensure that they ask plenty of questions regarding potential differences between the picture and the actual product and are satisfied with the responses prior to bidding. Returnig the goods is not really a viable option unless you can avoid the cost of 3rd party shipping.

posted 2006-Nov-14, 11am AEST
User #132892   1305 posts
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Pascals writes...

So, I would say that the business is legitimate but prospective bidders need to ensure that they ask plenty of questions regarding potential differences between the picture and the actual product and are satisfied with the responses prior to bidding.

As with any auction online or not. Ask questions, look closely before bidding, then ask more questions and if in doubt..... don't bid. Simple really. Btw I'm one of those really annoying ebayers who asks sellers heaps of questions first then bids. Have not had a bad experience yet.

posted 2006-Nov-14, 12pm AEST
User #149797   12 posts
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I have just used mybid and i strongly recommend against it! Extremely bad (not to mention rude) service, very very slow, dodgy (they sent my item a month after receiving payment, and when it arrived in perth i couldnt collect it cos the transport company advised they had not paid for transport, which they of course had taken money for. Not only that, but they overcharged me massively for transport (charging me for 1.5 cubic metres when the item is less than half a cubic metre). Broken promise after broken promise, absolute nightmare. Everyone pls beware of these ripoff merchants!

posted 2006-Dec-20, 5pm AEST
User #2943   8733 posts
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Once again, if a deal looks to good to be true, then it probably is. One day, hopefully everyone will realise this.

posted 2006-Dec-20, 9pm AEST
User #149797   12 posts
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Guess what guys, on top of everything else, they delivered the wrong colour (white instead of black) and now have said they will only refund the money provided i pay for shipping back to sydney from perth. stay away from mybid!

posted 2006-Dec-21, 10am AEST
User #2943   8733 posts
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Time to get Consumer Affairs involved I think.

posted 2006-Dec-21, 10am AEST
User #6919   2724 posts
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Sanjeevperth writes...

they delivered the wrong colour (white instead of black)

how much did you pay all up for the item?

posted 2006-Dec-21, 10am AEST
User #52204   12552 posts
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It is obvious that it is the same company search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQ...onbrokersQQhtZ-1 or similar who got pissed off with ebay.

They obviously didn't want the official feedback process of ebay and contracted to setup a site where the customer can't give feedback or learn that they are the dodgy by dummy bidding all they like until they get the funds they want.

It is clear from the site that it has no clear impartial regulatory function behind it and it is clearly is for the single purpose of marketting one companies warez who actually RUN the website.

There has to be laws about being an official auction house or electronic auction house.

posted 2006-Dec-21, 10am AEST
edited 2006-Dec-21, 10am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Has anyone had any further news on these guys?
Before I found this site (I have only just registered) I bid in an outdoor sofa from them.
I may still cancel the payment.
The bidding didn't reach my maximum bid so it was hyped all the way and the shipping seems OK.
Alarms went off when I couldn't find the location of the transport company but a lot of small companies in other cities end up at the same depots here in Brisbane.
But its also over the weekend and it may just be difficult to get hold of them.
Reading down, just how unhappy are the people who have bought this stuff?

posted 2007-Jan-21, 8am AEST
User #30744   1351 posts
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accountant100k-ukar writes...

It is obvious that it is the same company search.ebay.com.au/_W0QQ...onbrokersQQhtZ-1 or similar who got pissed off with ebay.

They obviously didn't want the official feedback process of ebay and contracted to setup a site where the customer can't give feedback or learn that they are the dodgy by dummy bidding all they like until they get the funds they want.


haha read their feedbacks, every 3rd one has an issue, like "has damage and stuff", they then reply saying "customer damaged in transport", then customer replies "you delivered it, i paid you $90!!!" :p

lowball price for an item with massive delivery charges are standard practice nowadays, never buy any new products where the delivery costs more than the item. the reason they setup auctions like this is that they are expecting a large number of the items to be crap, but they only legally have to reimburse you the cost of the product itself. so if you buy say a GPS or whatever for $20 with $80 delivery fee, you're SOL when you want your money back.

posted 2007-Jan-21, 8am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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I paid $400 for an outdoor sofa and delivery from Sydney to Brisbane is $150.
I have passed their terms over to my solicitor and I am trying to stop the payment.
I have a feeling I may finish up with a cheap sofa big enough for kids...

posted 2007-Jan-21, 9am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Good point about the expected returns.
The trouble with very cheap products is often low or no quality control.
I used to import Chinese electrical goods into Britain and we had the same problem. It was unpredictable. Could be good could be complete crap.

posted 2007-Jan-21, 9am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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and they would send a similar product as a substitute and call it "generic".
At least the carriage to Brisbane at $140pcm is better than to Adelaide which is $250pcm and they have worked it out properly.
Unfortunately my sofa is describe both as a 2 seater and a 3 seater in the same auction.

posted 2007-Jan-21, 9am AEST
User #51262   147 posts
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wow that accounts ebay feedback is fairly entertaining

posted 2007-Jan-21, 9am AEST
User #99389   1238 posts
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why do they reply to all their positive feedback with delivery times??!?

posted 2007-Jan-21, 1pm AEST
User #121877   6522 posts
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Stu-It writes...

Once again, if a deal looks to good to be true, then it probably is. One day, hopefully everyone will realise this.

Except ofcourse the HP DV9008XT ;)

posted 2007-Jan-22, 12am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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I have just spoken to Mybid's carriage company and they tell me they send out about 2 trucks a week of stuff.
The main problems are late delivery because Mybid tend to say its going immediately when it isn't.
STupidly I had paid by direct transfer and when I tried to cancel that so as to pay by credit card I found that despite the bank saying it wouldn't go through till working hours today, it did in fact go through before that and although I could put in for a repayment, it would be down to the other bank (and presumably Mybid) to agree and take at least 4 weks and the repayment wouldn't be guaranteed.
So it seems the dice have been cast.
The woman at the trucking company reckoned they don't get many complaints about Mybid at all.
Because of the fires on the Pacific Highway it will take longer and of course despite the promise it would go out today it probably won't be for a week. But then its just 2 days to Brisbane.
So some time in the middle of next week I will be able to report back about Mybid.
I am keeping verything crossed...

posted 2007-Jan-22, 7am AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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One thing to remember too......

Despatch & delivery are two entirely different terms. Mybid seem to use the despatch term quite regularly. This of course means that the item has gone from Mybid to the delivery company depot. It could be a week or two by the time it is actually delivered to you (depending on location).

For those who bought them, good luck with your vinyl (oops i mean *cough* leather) lounges.

posted 2007-Jan-22, 2pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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The delivery company say that its usually a week later than MyBid claim and that then its just a 2 day trip up the coast. They actually have their own depot up here so its not another opportunity to lose it when it changes hands.
I have got a wicker outdoor sofa and so at least I would hope I can avoid the leather/vinyl interchange!
I am hoping for the middle of next week.
With the fires on the Pacific Highway they probably couldn't get a truck up here today anyway.
My suspicion is this company sells direct from unopened boxes out of containers and I know its very hard to get Chinese companies to take stuff back so you are stuck with sell cheap and hope its worth the money!
We will see.

posted 2007-Jan-22, 3pm AEST
User #13157   1930 posts
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Love ebay feedback comments:

"Follow-up by jennieeildon: What started as a very professional approach has ended in a very unpleasant man"

posted 2007-Jan-22, 3pm AEST
User #136587   2438 posts
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Kastro writes...

I thought the level of service was down to me because

I've actually found a lot of european-born people who come into my store seem to demand way too much...but yes, the way you were treated was wrong.

I think you should have confirmed more details in writing however.

posted 2007-Jan-24, 6pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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Here are some comments on the above post:

Firstly just in regards to the transport.

Kastro writes...

I leave on the Gold Coast and in December 21th, I bought a milano lounge from these guys for $896.51; ....... he had the courtesy to tell me that the lounge will be shipped out on the 5th of January and I could only receive it on the 10th because the delivery company shuts down during the festive period; I was already shocked because i found it too long.

This much he told you is probably the only bit of truth, most transport companies will shut down over xmas, usually a week before and re-open 3-4 weeks later, its standard practice.

Nice item I bought a milano lounge

As for your lounge, I am glad you only paid $900 for it cos that is seriously all it is worth. Having to assemble the legs is a dead giveaway for extra cheap Chinese import and even in the description it says it is bycast leather! HELLO! There is no such thing as bycast leather, it is merely vinyl which has been coated with wax.

Oh and as for the RRP of $6,500, YEAH RIGHT!! Maybe in some warped fantasy land! If you wanted a leather lounge in that style, I could get you an Australian made, full 100% cow leather suite in that exact style delivered to your door for under $2,000. 10 year warranties and damn well more than 3 colours to choose from. Its even made by a Queensland company. Its called the Alexia. Very poplar suite.

posted 2007-Jan-24, 8pm AEST
edited 2007-Jan-24, 9pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Well Mybid have called me a couple of times and the sofa is down for arrival in Brisbane next Wednesday.
It seems to me that of all the people posting here only 2 or 3 of us actually have any experience with the company but that at least a couple of the others are furniture retailers who are obviously competitors of Mybid.
I'm not sure being manufactured in China is such an insult as so much is made there now including a lot of expensive brands.

posted 2007-Jan-26, 7am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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On the subject of Bycast leather.
I have this link to Leather Master Uk which supplies a page of definitions of differnt leather products.

www.leathermasteruk.com/leathertypes.htm

Here is their description of bycast leather...

BYCAST LEATHERS - (B): also called - COATED LEATHER.

This is a new development in using split leather. It is produced from the lower split by first melting a type of glue on the surface, then rolling on a film of coloured polyurethane.
It normally is produced in darker colours and when stretched it lightens. It also scratches quite easily. This type of leather is now coming on to the furniture market but has been used for handbags and belts for some time.
This product varies in quality. We recomend that any ByCast leather used is independently tested to minimum British Standards.
It is also important that the temperature of room that the ByCast leather is kept remains below 30°C.

At least let's deal with facts here.

posted 2007-Jan-26, 7am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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I have been in Australia for about 8 years and I agree that in Europe we get a different... type... of service. Now that is not neccessarily a criticism, but it does lead to misunderstandings.
As in all these things, if you don't get something you expect then its easy to feel let down. I remember that I used to think the service levels here were terrible, but once you get used to not getting that then you realise you supply a certain amount yourself and then, well, to tell the truth I still miss it sometimes, but its nothing really!!

posted 2007-Jan-26, 7am AEST
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rednight writes...

It is also important that the temperature of room that the ByCast leather is kept remains below 30°C.

That's gotta be good for the Australian market . I can see the feedback now , My lounge melted???

posted 2007-Jan-26, 7am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Whilst I agree about its use in Australia, and there may well be a huge safety margin in that, we have a retailer who claimed it wasn't leather at all.
This thread is certainly confusing!

posted 2007-Jan-26, 3pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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rednight writes...

On the subject of Bycast leather.

let's deal with facts here.

Ok some facts. A lot of Chinese imports are very good quality, I am not disputing this, most factories are quite reputable (the days of ordering a container load of lounges, shipping it over and cracking it open to find it filled with rocks & timber are long gone) but there are stil some nasty surprises out there.

If you honestly believe Mybid's RRP of $6,500 for your couch, you need to seriously have a good look at their own description.

In Australia, anything that is called "Bycast" is officially not recognised as being leather, what the uk calls it is up to them. Whilst it may contain parts of leather, who knows what animal it came from? Buffalo & pig are often substituted for cow.

www.afrdi.org.au/index.p...N_position=39:39

This page contains a list of suppliers who have so far had their leather that is used on their furniture certified as 100% cow leather, and they are all suppliers I order from. The list is growing every day, there is something like a 6 month backup to get a certification.

Whilst you do need to purchase a copy of the standard, I do have a copy of it lying around somewhere so I can get you the exact wording to do with bycasts.

As far as mybid being a competitor, I dont consider them as such as their product range is not within ours and they target a different part of the market to us.

posted 2007-Jan-26, 11pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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If Australia has a different standard then I apologise.
As a retailer, would you know who funds it?
The site describes it as non-profit and independent.
I used to import lighting from China into Britain and they had a tendency to send items they considered generic, for example the bowl-on-a-pole uplighter. might arrive with a selection of bases and of course a customer buying say 20 would want them all the same and unless you went and opened every box you really couldn't guarantee it.
Looking at an RRP is to me the same as looking at a 50% reduction sale and thinking "that's cheap".
You still have to look at the product and the price and ask yourself if its good value.

posted 2007-Jan-27, 6am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Actually, I'm not buying a leather sofa.
I find leather far to sticky in queensland summers although I do actually own a rather nice, if impractical white leather one.

posted 2007-Jan-27, 6am AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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rednight writes...

If Australia has a different standard then I apologise.
As a retailer, would you know who funds it?
The site describes it as non-profit and independent.


It's funded mainly by the companies who get stuff tested and certified by them I believe.

Overinflating RRP's is a pet hate of mine, especially those companies who bump them up for a sale to make so called discounts look even bigger (which is illegal by the way).

And I think I got you confused with the OP on who was buying the leather couch!! sorry, it was very early in the morning!

posted 2007-Jan-27, 11am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Thanks for the info.
I think RRPs should simply be done away with. Let the retailer set their own price and lose the confusion.
In reality prices probably wouldn't change but these prices which things are never sold at would disappear. And I'm not singling MyBid out here, its a countrywide thing

posted 2007-Jan-28, 7am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Shopping, its a curse.

posted 2007-Jan-28, 1pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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OK, the sofa has arrived.
I was told it would be in Brisbane on Wednesday and it got here on Monday.
Its fine.
Is it the best sofa in the world... no. Is it the worst sofa in the world... no.
Its exactly as described and great value though.
So anyone thinking of getting something through MyBid can have more confidence now.
They phoned me a total of 4 or 5 times and got it here in a reasonable time.
They seem fine to me.

posted 2007-Feb-1, 10am AEST
User #150223   3 posts
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att damo
I took a risk and thoughlt i should let you know I have just purchased a leather sofa from MYBID, and guess what i received it the next day , and beleive it or not the sofa is fantastic , my wife is over the moon, and for $1100.00 inc delivery who wouldn't be. Tried and tested would now definately buy more. i am now bidding on a outdoor setting, will keep you all informed .

posted 2007-Feb-1, 5pm AEST
User #156520   6 posts
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posted 2007-Feb-4, 10pm AEST
edited 2007-Feb-6, 9pm AEST
User #122773   3 posts
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i bought a couple of the black executive office chairs. They are made from vinyl and are quite poor quality. the back pads are stuck on with velcro and it's not nearly as sexy as the photo used on the site. Are serving their purpose and at $200 each probably good value for money. i'd guess that the ones like in the photo would cost over $1000 easily

posted 2007-Feb-5, 8am AEST
User #122773   3 posts
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poacher, can you pls advise which sofa you bought. Despite my experience with office chairs i still reckon it's possible to get a good deal if you buy the right item

posted 2007-Feb-5, 8am AEST
User #154087   21 posts
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Fred
Just use the phone number on the website and speak to them. I have a feeling they are a little disorganised in the office.
The only hang up with my purchase wa sa slight over enthusiasm about how quickly it would arrive. When they called with the real delivery date, they actually estimated 2 days longer than it really took.
Look, you're not buying something that costs 10 or 15 times as much from Space. Be realistic about what you are buying and you might get a bargain.

posted 2007-Feb-5, 3pm AEST
User #27453   1656 posts
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CornishPixie writes...

Btw I'm one of those really annoying ebayers who asks sellers heaps of questions first then bids. Have not had a bad experience yet.

sure... but im 1 that asks next to no questions and havent had a problem ever in about 40 odd bids

posted 2007-Feb-5, 5pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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poacher writes...

att damo
I took a risk and thoughlt i should let you know I have just purchased a leather sofa from MYBID,


Why is this attentioned to me all of a sudden? If you bought from mybid, you bought from them, I'm not going to lose sleep over it. What product did you buy exactly? Give us the linky so we can all have a look.

posted 2007-Feb-5, 5pm AEST
User #156520   6 posts
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Hey I just had a call from a guy at mybid he was very friendly I told him about my concerns and with out hesitation he said it was no problem if I didn't want to go through with the sale.
Alternatively I could purchase one item and see how I felt before going through with the other sale.

I can't ask for more than that.

posted 2007-Feb-5, 6pm AEST
User #102029   879 posts
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Could always pick it up from sydney :P

posted 2007-Feb-6, 7am AEST
User #156520   6 posts
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posted 2007-Feb-6, 8am AEST
edited 2007-Feb-6, 9pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
Forum Regular

The people at MyBid read this site.
OK, let's state that clearly.
After my first "I am worried" post they phoned and offered to cancel the order if I didn't want my sofa.
I decided to go ahead.
The worst I can say about them is that the packing is what I would call typically "Chinese"... lots of tape and not very neat. I used to import electrical goods from China into Britain and I used to get the same then.
Nobody, especially at this part of the market is going to repack every item they sell.
Its an OUTDOOR sofa so it not going to be damaged if a little damp gets into it, as in fact was the case.
I don't know how the indoor sofas are packed so I cannot comment.
But with only 2 or 3 people here with any experience of MyBid it seems a lot of people have an opinion.
I am not advising to buy or to not buy from them. Its your money and your choice.
But if you go ahead, please post your findings here.

posted 2007-Feb-6, 10am AEST
User #156520   6 posts
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posted 2007-Feb-6, 7pm AEST
edited 2007-Feb-6, 9pm AEST
User #99389   1238 posts
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fred24 writes...

so other people could get some honest feedback about my experience. I'm yet to even buy from mybid!

so you have no experience then??

posted 2007-Feb-6, 8pm AEST
User #4077   7889 posts
Carouser

Please stop with the conspiracy theories and personal attacks.

Next one gets to spend some time out.

If you suspect an account of being a duplicate (or ghost) herring the post.

posted 2007-Feb-6, 8pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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OK, ok ok...................... ok. Deep breaths everyone.

Just expressing my opinion about furniture being passed off for what it is not. That is couches being advertised as leather when it is obviously vinyl or a poor quality split and RRP's being extremely over-inflated.

Being in the furniture retail industry, these things really really piss me off, especially when top quality australian manufacturers are being shut down every week because of cheap imitations from China and people trying to pass them off as more than what they are.

But, some people cant seem to handle it. Shame really. I'd like to know who I personally attacked by the way.

posted 2007-Feb-6, 9pm AEST
User #154087   21 posts
Forum Regular

I am offended you chose to delete my post.
The poster I was replying to is a furniture retailer who has consistently attacked MyBid including stating (with a half hearted defence clause) that they are a different company with a very bad reputation on eBay.
Using this forum to attack your competitors is not either the aim or the function of this forum.

posted 2007-Feb-7, 9am AEST
edited 2007-Feb-7, 9am AEST
User #14672   163 posts
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Anyone bought anything recently from mybid.com.au? I'm interested in a couple of the leather lounges on there.

posted 2007-Apr-13, 1pm AEST
User #134519   1 posts
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I've bought a chiar off them. It's certainly chinese, a copy of an italian design. chrome is very cheap and patchy, leather is ok.

The key bit was that the site took 10 weeks to deliver! I kept on asked them (phone and email) when it would arrive and kept getting lies. According to mybid the courier 'lost' the chair 3 times! that said the consignment numbers they kept quoting were not valid at the courier (star-track) they said they were using.

All up I expect they wait until the auction is over and they have the cash BEFORE they place the order with the supplier in China.

posted 2007-Jun-10, 6pm AEST
User #183961   2 posts
Forum Regular

My experience with mybid:

Just after winning an my sister pointed this forum out to me - and I became worried. I emailed mybid and asked to be able to inspect the furniture BEFORE we paid (we were collecting ourselves) - and they were fantastic about it. They said that was fine, and if the furniture was not what had been described or we were not happy we did not have to go through with the sale. Our calls were never answered directly - but were returned quickly and politely and the staff were really very helpful.

The price is amazing and the service is good - if you have questions or concerns contact mybid and they will answer anything you need to know, or are worried about. We did, and will happily deal with mybid again in future.

posted 2007-Jul-30, 4pm AEST
User #136587   2438 posts
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ahahaha 1 post.

Sure buddy.

posted 2007-Jul-30, 4pm AEST
User #130509   2736 posts
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Damo writes...

it's probably combination leather (real leather on the front, fake on the back).

uh you'd be hard pressed to find something that isn't these days.

Most if not almost all lounges you buy these days use leather only on touch surfaces like the armrests, seats, backs and footrests if ya got.

The material used on the outside back and the outside arms is matching vinyl.

posted 2007-Jul-30, 5pm AEST
User #130509   2736 posts
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shinybijou writes...

ahahaha 1 post.

Sure buddy.


Ok so just because he has 1 post he has something to do with this mob?

Just because he only joined today he has something to do with this mob?

Just because he joined today and posted in this thread today he has something to do with this mob?

Hey I think you could be on to something. :)

If you wanna buy a top quality couch go out and buy it from a manufacturer, not hardley normal or other store chains. Aussie manufacturers will make quality products with quality materials, not all though I have taken a few apart with some filthy broken chipboard - not gona comment on who though.

posted 2007-Jul-30, 5pm AEST
edited 2007-Jul-30, 5pm AEST
User #183972   51 posts
In the penalty box

sorri no comments

posted 2007-Jul-30, 6pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
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shorty40 writes...

If you wanna buy a top quality couch go out and buy it from a manufacturer, not hardley normal or other store chains. Aussie manufacturers will make quality products with quality materials, not all though I have taken a few apart with some filthy broken chipboard - not gona comment on who though

Sadly, 90% of manufacturers will not sell to the public.

But aside from that, your comment regarding the leather not being real all over lounges these days is completely false.

For instance, those suppliers (whether they be australian made or importers) who want to supply leather lounges to Harvey Norman must have the leather certified as being 100% cow leather by the Australian Furniture Design & Research Institute. They have even come up with a standard for leather (AFRDI Leather standard 146 - look it up). I think a lot of other retailers will soon demand the same of their suppliers if they want to continue selling leather lounges. It was on Today Tonight about 12 months ago.

PLaces like fantastic furniture etc are not even close to being real leather. They use "combination" and other types (Like bycast) which are not true leather.

The fact is there are aussie manufacturers who build different quality items. They build to a price point and the materials involved obviously differ with each price bracket. You aint going to find a Tasmanion Oak recliner base frame, with 7 layer marine bonded ply for the chair frame covered in Italian leather for around $2,000 anywhere. Its more like to be about $6,000-$7,000.

That being said, Aussie manufacturers are, in my opinion, amongst the best manufacturers in the world. Check out brands like Integral, Pegar, Garstone etc

posted 2007-Jul-30, 10pm AEST
User #130509   2736 posts
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Damo writes...

But aside from that, your comment regarding the leather not being real all over lounges these days is completely false.

lol.

Seen so many of them, there is nothing wrong with the practice it's a waste of leather putting it on the whole couch. But it's always handy if you need to repair cushions or what not as you can use the material from the outside back and replace that with Vinyl if need be.

You aint going to find a Tasmanion Oak recliner base frame, with 7 layer marine bonded ply for the chair frame covered in Italian leather for around $2,000 anywhere. Its more like to be about $6,000-$7,000.

What's the old adage - You get what you pay for. I've seen some fine pieces of furniture from Australian manufacturers, I've also seen some of the most chipboard ridden crap dressed up to look great with price tag to match.

And yes Harvey Norman do sell leather lounges with leather only on the touch surfaces. Don't believe me goto a Harvey Norman store and look for yourself. But what would I know it's not like I've worked with these kind of products or anything for years and years.

posted 2007-Jul-30, 11pm AEST
User #39510   778 posts
Whirlpool Enthusiast

shorty40 writes...

And yes Harvey Norman do sell leather lounges with leather only on the touch surfaces. Don't believe me goto a Harvey Norman store and look for yourself. But what would I know it's not like I've worked with these kind of products or anything for years and years.

Sorry sunshine, but you are again incorrect. All leather lounges that are sold by Harvey Norman have to be certified as 100% cow leather - no splits, no combinations, no leather where it counts etc. Any supplier who cannot get this certification is kicked out.

Grab their next furniture catalogue and check out the page where it describes the AFRDI 146 leather standard.

It is true thought that the combination and bycast type leather lounges were previously sold by HN, but they were a driving force behind this whole leather standards thing which I think can only be good for the consumer in the end as they know if its certified, its true leather.

posted 2007-Jul-31, 10am AEST
edited 2007-Jul-31, 10am AEST
User #130509   2736 posts
Whirlpool Forums Addict

Damo writes...

Sorry sunshine

Rainbows and lollypops...

Better let my mate know who just bought one and it definitely has vinyl on the outside arms and back.

but they were a driving force behind this whole leather standards thing which I think can only be good for the consumer in the end as they know if its certified, its true leather.

Yehh it doesn't really matter if you have leather on the outside back or outside arms, the matching vinyl still looks the same my mate couldn't pick the difference even when I pointed it out.

But this is getting a bit off topic.

posted 2007-Jul-31, 5pm AEST
User #183961   2 posts
Forum Regular

Um... I thought the fact that my sister had to point this forum out to me and that I had no experience with online auctions made my lack of 'tech savvy' pretty clear. Sorry if it wasn't and just to clarify: it took me hours just to register and make one post - this is the only forum I have ever really seen and it was emailed to me to me as a link. Because of the worry it caused me I thought I would offer something for the other clueless souls like myself - so yes I did just join to post in this thread.

I haven't made other posts because I don't really know how to (nor after the response to my first efforts want to).

I am no furniture person - I cant comment on material - quality - manufacturer. I am a great shopper though and can comment on service; and thats all I was doing.

posted 2007-Jul-31, 5pm AEST
User #89290   9674 posts
Moderator

Thread closed - the original item it was discussing is no longer featured on the site, and recent conversation is therefore irrelevant.

posted 2007-Oct-15, 10pm AEST
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