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This seems to always happen to me, if I leave Azureus running, eventually I won't be able to visit any websites other then by putting in the IP address. I've had a look at the FAQs and can't seem to find any problems relating to this. I've tried that SP2 fix though.

Is this happening with everyone else? It's annoying because with the DNS dead, it won't load a new tracker and usually the download speeds reduce. Plus I can't use Azurues other than overnight otherwise I am unable to do anything else.

Sometimes it happens in 10min, sometimes a few hours, but it always happens.

Too many connections, try letting Azureus auto setup.

Yep, that's all I ever do when I format my computer and reinstall, the problem happens.

I've also just tried disabling UPnP, and that hasn't fixed it either.

Wow, wierd problem.

First i'd try manually entering your ISP's DNS in your TCP IP settings, if you don't know it, just call tech support and ask for it.

Yeah, done that too. Used to have manual DNS as well.

It's just weird, I can only find one link where a few people are having the same problem as me.

Youre not the only one trust me. I get what you have PLUS the blue screen of death. Even after updating the modem drivers nothings changed :(

Muad'Dib sounds like hes in the right area (thats what I would have thought to do) maybe try reducing connections manually or reducing maximum downloads AND uploads.

Might be a long shot but possibly network saturation is causing your problems?

Thanh Ha writes...

I've also just tried disabling UPnP, and that hasn't fixed it either.

What both? Azureus and the router? it may also be that your router needs a firmware upgrade. What router?

my money is on the router not being able to process the number of connections you are asking for.

I have placed my router into bridge mode to remove this proble, but have also placed a better firewall on my computer as I now have no protection (the little the router did give before was it).

2 weeks and no problems (would see the above proble after 1 week otherwise, but using a different p2p program as well.)

If he's using Zonealarm I'll lay odds thats the problem. Remove it and use Sygate.

Incidentally, this happend to me this morning, had to restart the router. Netgear 834G. Did the Azeurus auto-setup, see if it happens again.

When I was running Azureus under Windows, I had all these sorts of problems. The worst one was when it used to consume 99% of the CPU and nothing else would work (and yes, I'd followed the recommendations about NOD32 and Netlimiter). So I just whacked it on a small Linux box, and now it's perfect! No issues AT ALL.

Muad'Dib writes...

What both? Azureus and the router? it may also be that your router needs a firmware upgrade. What router?

Billion 7202G

I've having tried disabling UPnP on the router, didn't know there was an option. I'll have a look.

Also, I have to restart the computer, but not the router/modem to fix the problem.

Had the same problem.Switched to bit comet and all is well again.Pity,i liked azureus..

Well, I've finally switched to BitComet. Speeds were excellent for a immediately until a few hours later when everything was slow. Realised what I hadn't change, port forwarding.

So I fixed that up, and now my DNS dies again! Could it be because of the port number I'm choosing? I let BC choose randomly, and the number is in the 20,000s.

I don't think it has anything to do with your port but more to do with the percentage of your bandwidth you have given Azureus. I don't use that program but when I use my client and I haven't allowed some bandwidth for browsing it will do just the same. Both for u/l and d/l.

It's to do with the number of connections the router has to maintain.

Limit total max connections to 300 and work up in increments of 50 untill you find your maximum stable amount of connections.

Mine is about 400.

chaos-projects.de/az/az-calc.html forget the rest try the best.

Muad'Dib writes...

forget the rest try the best.

How is that the best?

Thanks guys, it won't have anything to do with bandwidth. speeds were around 8kb download, and I had set my max upload to 8kb on my 512/128 when the dns died.

I had a look at the 4226 issue, and I did indeed max that out, so download the file and upgrade it to 50. The thing is, shouldn't my connection start working again as soon as I closed BC?

Will also try the other suggestions. thanks. :)

Thanh Ha writes...

The thing is, shouldn't my connection start working again as soon as I closed BC?

Just to be clear limiting connections is not meant to be a way of limiting bandwidth, it is meant to reduce load on your router.

Try limiting your connections, it should solve the problem.

The thing is, shouldn't my connection start working again as soon as I closed BC?

Not if it is your router that is dying.

Morbo writes...

How is that the best?

It sets out the perfect settings for Azureus.

Muad'Dib writes...

It sets out the perfect settings for Azureus.

edit: sorry my post seemed a bit rude.

I dont feel there are settings that are appropriate everyone on a given connection speed.

Morbo writes...

Not if it is your router that is dying.

A restart of the computer though fixes things, I don't have to do anything to the router at all.

Anyway, things are looking good after I fixed that 4226 issue. I tried it with Azureus but that didn't fix things, but it did for this, so all good. :)

Morbo writes...

I dont feel there are settings that are appropriate everyone on a given connection speed.

Agreed. Because of things like routers there is a difference to what they can handle. I have my max connections set to unlimted and never run into problems even though I'm using a cheap D-Link router that is supposed to be oh so crap.

Damn, I spoke too early. The connection died again, this time though the 4226 thing didn't max out.

Thanh Ha writes...

Damn, I spoke too early. The connection died again, this time though the 4226 thing didn't max out.

I would really suggest limiting connections, maybe be ultra conservative and start with a limit of 200. If it fixes the problem you know that this is your issue. It could also be windows networking giving up and not he router.

Morbo writes...

I would really suggest limiting connections, maybe be ultra conservative and start with a limit of 200. If it fixes the problem you know that this is your issue. It could also be windows networking giving up and not he router.

Yep, trying your suggestion now, just trying things one at a time.

Can't seem to find how to limit my connection though.

Thanh Ha writes...

Can't seem to find how to limit my connection though.

In Azureus go Tools>Options...

Under Connection, set Max simultaneous outbound connection attempts set it to 5 or 10.

Under Transfer, set Maximum number of connections per torrent to 50 and Maximum number of connections globally to 200.

Thanks Davo, and everyone else for the help. Been good.

I've just been able to disable upnp on both my modem (finally! it was so hard to find) and BitComet, and connections' been stable for a few hours now. Hopefully I don't jinx myself.

Well, it died again. Nothing seems to be working. I've tried the connection limiting. Went down to as low as 100 (50 per torrent, max 2 active) and it still dies.

Not sure what's wrong. But it's the DNS that's dying, not the connection. I can visit websites, I just need the IP address. The domain names just won't resolve.

thanh ha, i have the same problem with billion 743ge

like someone said, i can visit webpages again after a reset...let us know if you find the solution

Okay, I have an idea that may work. I haven't yet tried it because I've only got 1% left of my quota for this month.

Anyway, since it's a DNS problem, not a connection problem. I hardcoded the DNS servers into Windows instead of letting it automatically get it from the router/modem.

Okay, the solution above worked. Been running BC for nearly a day now and have no problems. Set your ISP's DNS servers into Windows instead of having it grab it from your router.

Thanh Ha writes...

Anyway, since it's a DNS problem, not a connection problem. I hardcoded the DNS servers into Windows instead of letting it automatically get it from the router/modem.

This problems happens with alot of home routers and then something like Azureus with its many connections just exacerbates the problems.

If you PC is not going to be moving very often, just hardcode all IP Address/DNS settings

Hardcoding DNS doesnt really make a problem anyway, given that the DNS server doesnt really care where the request is comin from (netspace ones dont anyway).

3rd Iteration writes...

Hardcoding DNS doesnt really make a problem anyway, given that the DNS server doesnt really care where the request is comin from (netspace ones dont anyway).

Yeah, I'm sure what the problem is, but if I run a BT program, after a while - the length of time that is random - domains don't resolve anymore. It's as if Windows is having problems grabbing the DNS servers that I manual (or auto) set in my router. Hardcoding it in Windows has fixed the problem.

I'm having the same problem :(

I'mma try limiting connections :)

Lloyd, can you not connect to any sites at all, or is it just resolving domain names? I.e., if you put in whirlpool's IP will it load?

^^^

I haven't tried putting in a sites IP (not sure how to do it), but I do know that after Azeuras has been open for a while, everything goes dead - webpages wont load, Azeuras downloads and uploads stop and I have to restart my computer :(

That's different to my problem them, which is basically just a DNS problem, I still download and everything but can't visit any websites without an IP

Try the 4226 thing.

^^^

thanks mate, I installed this patch at www.lvllord.de that increases the amount of network connections from 10 to 50

hopefully that will fix my problems :)

Having the same problem here. I'm not using a router, just a soft firewall. I'll try hardcoding the DNS into Windows and see what happens.

Morbo writes...

I dont feel there are settings that are appropriate everyone on a given connection speed.

They are.

Thanh Ha writes...

I had a look at the 4226 issue

What is that?

Muad'Dib writes...

What is that?

Its a stupid decision Microsoft made with their TCPIP stack to limit virus's spreading. Seems to cause a lot of people no end of problems (myself included). The effect is a lot of seemingly random problems (including DNS taking 30 seconds or more to resolve an address). Look for error 4226 in your event logs.

www.lvllord.de

I upped the limit to 16777214 and my system runs properly again :)

tRock writes...

I upped the limit to 16777214 and my system runs properly again :)

Now I know why I haven't bothered with that junk SP2. Between the TCP/IP problem and shite firewall no wonder.

It's a late reply I know but I wanted to add this suggestion.

I have been having this problem also but I wonder if it may be something to do with my ISP trying to stop traffic like this.

I don't follow the to many connections reasoning because I can still connect if I use Tor onionskinning proxy server instead of direct connection. go figure.

So anyway you can avoid this by using TOR and Privoxy together which also gives you totally anonymous browsing by the way.

have fun.

joolsuk writes...

I have been having this problem also but I wonder if it may be something to do with my ISP trying to stop traffic like this.

I don't follow the to many connections reasoning

How can they? you are using TOR. There is your problem slow slow slow. Too many connections always causes problems it floods the router/modem

Please *DO NOT* use Tor for routing peer-to-peer data traffic, it can not handle the bandwidth. They have indicated that they will make efforts to ban such usage if it continues, which will likely affect both legitimate and unwanted use!

Bitcomet kills Azureus. Limit uploads though, then there's more bandwidth for DNS resolving. (and surfing)

Tor's the other problem though.

Had exactly the same problem.

Tried all of the following:
- update router firmware (btw the router is supposed to be a decent one)
- switch off firewall (ZoneAlarm)
- hardcode DNS into Windows

None if it worked so far... DNS keeps dying from time to time.

Trying now reduce number of connections. We'll see...

Cheers.

hi there
We can use uTorrent for windows. I am using this one which is free and running smoothly.....
Also this software can resume Azureus downloads. We all need reopen the torrent and save in the same folder
Before i was using Azureus which caused huge trouble....

bye

coldk writes...

Bitcomet kills Azureus. Limit uploads though, then there's more bandwidth for DNS resolving. (and surfing)

Tor's the other problem though

edit: free the port for uTorrent in the firmware or change the port in the uTorrent which is free in firmware for incoming and outgoing connections. ......