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Feel free to continue discussion here. Follows on from: /forum-replies.cfm?t=1189766&p=50 |
posted 2009-May-22, 6pm AEST
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User #223668 399 posts
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Hi All, Now on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOf_xxv6yoM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZns7vVzDI8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03RU9bbJSqI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxModWqFCn8 Get some more information about PennyTel, especially on topics about Smartdial, Callback and PennyMobile. Have a good weekend! Regards, |
posted 2009-May-22, 6pm AEST
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User #29714 1875 posts
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Hi Jim Whim sent re overcharging |
posted 2009-May-22, 7pm AEST
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User #25439 840 posts
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Hi All, Now on You tube If the voice over guy, by some slim chance knows his stuff as well and as clear as he demonstated on the you add then... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE clone him 30 times and put him on the supprt/live person teams!!!! |
posted 2009-May-22, 8pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Good info thanks Jim. |
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User #92177 484 posts
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ummm, its all just for iphones? To me that seems like it is limited to iphones (we all know it's not). Seems like someone had a good idea but didn't really implement it too well. Could have been so much better if it was done in a universal way. However this is typical of Pennytel, just can't really get it all together. |
posted 2009-May-22, 10pm AEST
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User #11312 169 posts
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so true and we remain customers. |
posted 2009-May-22, 10pm AEST
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User #30615 348 posts
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Jim, I can see that those youtube movies could be useful for iphone owners but this thread is about PennySIM and I don't think they belong here. |
posted 2009-May-22, 11pm AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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ummm, its all just for iphones? To me that seems like it is limited to iphones (we all know it's not). Seems like someone had a good idea but didn't really implement it too well. Could have been so much better if it was done in a universal way. However this is typical of Pennytel, just can't really get it all together. u could use VoIP on symbian phones as well, download fring put in the SIP info for PT on fring and viola SIP phone on symbian (the best part is it can be over 3g connection as well. not just wifi) call back works by calling a number and that number will call u back so it works on any phones. smartdial: just call the pilot number and put in the number u want to dial (pilot number: 0289898800). u can replace the phone number on ur phonebook to 0289898800p03xxxxxxxx# to call that number via smartdial (or u can use the killer mobile dialer app which makes things more seamless) |
posted 2009-May-23, 12am AEST
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User #116840 139 posts
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I agree with the other replies – why are you plugging iPhones ? Do some videos on how this stuff works for normal people and it will be much more useful. Not everyone uses an iPhone. |
posted 2009-May-23, 1am AEST
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User #231007 864 posts
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Not everyone uses an iPhone. Marketing for the Iphone works very well. Despite the perception that there are a lot of Iphone users out there, the fact is that the Iphone is only a very small percentage of the mobile market. |
posted 2009-May-23, 10am AEST
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User #233832 189 posts
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Hmmm lotsa work on youtube videos.... improvements to PTSIM call logs? not so much.... |
posted 2009-May-23, 10am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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+ 2 we have not had an update on my pt sim account for 17-18 days now.... |
posted 2009-May-23, 11am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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You should see my account billing wise, not handled very well – at least that's what I think. It took a week to sort out non billing on my account and now as per previous post: Also no call record updates is really annoying.... No idea when the monthly rollover date is for the DATA plan.... Emailing support for having things fixed takes far too long for an adequate response. In my case I never received an email back that my account billing had been "fixed". I just happened to check my account and noticed. We have decided not to go with Pennysim for my wife.... She is going to TPG on the $19.99 cap plan. TPG SIM ordered Thursday night 11:20pm, got an email response pretty much straight away and an SMS for the order request. Received an email Friday morning that SIM was dispatched on Friday. I rang TPG questioning the porting process as there was a DOB issue. I was advised that the SIM will arrive Monday and, if "activated" then, the porting will also take place late afternoon. Pretty good! Seems like TPG are doing quite well with these plans and have streamlined their process a lot better. |
posted 2009-May-23, 12pm AEST
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User #16670 3125 posts
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Seems like TPG are doing quite well with these plans and have streamlined their process a lot better. Admitted, TPG has been in the mobile market a lot longer. For some, TPG will be better. For others, PennySIM provides much better value. To be able to have a mobile with 80 LONG calls to international destinations of any length (even hours) is worth much more to me, so I'll stick with PennySIM. |
posted 2009-May-23, 12pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Admitted, TPG has been in the mobile market a lot longer. True, I agree. Would give PT something to model on. For some, TPG will be better. For others, PennySIM provides much better value. To be able to have a mobile with 80 LONG calls to international destinations of any length (even hours) is worth much more to me, so I'll stick with PennySIM. Agree as well. I make lots of international calls whereas my wife makes more local, national and mobile calls. Pennytel just need to get on top of CDR updates from Optus and account services with quicker response times for support requests. |
posted 2009-May-23, 1pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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We like the sim to sim.....plus the cheap calls and try to use the net for some of the sms as they are expensive in todays market. |
posted 2009-May-23, 1pm AEST
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User #58478 1291 posts
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My mobile number was ported last Wednesday. I have already set up Smart dial to work with another ptsim – and all worked ok. I have added the new ported number...... but cannot make a call through smart dial..... I keep getting the message : "the number you are dialling is currently switched off or unavailable" ... even when dialing a landline though smart dial. Its as if the 028989 numbers are not available to my sim. ..anybody else having any similar problems with smart dial? H. |
posted 2009-May-23, 2pm AEST
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User #105724 730 posts
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Hi Jim, Have sent a whim regarding overcharging. Cheers |
posted 2009-May-23, 3pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Have you set the sim up in your account and verified the number stuff ???? You have to do it for every sim card....also I think you have to show caller id |
posted 2009-May-23, 3pm AEST
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User #231007 864 posts
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"the number you are dialling is currently switched off or unavailable" ... even when dialing a landline though smart dial. Sounds like you have callerId off on the phone. |
posted 2009-May-23, 5pm AEST
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User #58478 1291 posts
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I have turned CallerID to on.... no change I have reverted to callerID to set by network – still no change. H. |
posted 2009-May-23, 10pm AEST
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User #231007 864 posts
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I have turned CallerID to on.... no change I have reverted to callerID to set by network – still no change. H. Just checking. You did put this new number in the smartdial tab for "my numbers"? Edit. When I said callerId, I meant your phone was actually sending its number, not the PT setting within the account. You set this on your mobile. |
posted 2009-May-23, 11pm AEST
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User #16670 3125 posts
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I'll be keen to know if Pennytel will be developing a mobile application for the Palm Pre when it's released in Australia. Hopefully it will be successful here, and lead Pennytel to develop for it. |
posted 2009-May-24, 8am AEST
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User #30615 348 posts
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Rec'd an email from PT this morning: "Dear Customer, We deducted AUD8.8 from your Account balance as your Monthly Subscription Fee. You now have AUD5.84 left on your Account." 1. This makes some sense because it is the start of my 3rd month. 2. The $8.80 amount hasn't actually been deducted from my account. 3. This seems to suggest that monthly subscription fees will now be deducted from the PT account balance, not charged to the credit card. If this is the case.... excellent. Will have to wait and see what actually occurs. |
posted 2009-May-24, 10am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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yipeeeeee sounds goooood |
posted 2009-May-24, 10am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Yep, this has been happening to my account. All my Pennysim funds seem to be drawn from the main linked account. So yeah, they must be doing this as of last week. Much better! This has reduced some of my billing confusion. |
posted 2009-May-24, 10am AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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yeap and for the new accounts, fewer 50c charges :) |
posted 2009-May-24, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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what about the call charges are they taken out of the pt account as well ? |
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User #261216 582 posts
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They already were... |
posted 2009-May-24, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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pt sim to another mobile ? |
posted 2009-May-24, 11am AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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pt sim to another mobile ? Not sure what you're asking, but SmartDial charges come out of your PT account immediately, and Optus charges come out of your PT account everytime the records are updated. |
posted 2009-May-24, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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thanks.....yes it was the Optus charges, I have had a pt sim since 05-05-09 and still no call records or charges. |
posted 2009-May-24, 11am AEST
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User #58478 1291 posts
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Just checking. You did put this new number in the smartdial tab for "my numbers"? Yes. I even deleted it and put it in again. When I said callerId, I meant your phone was actually sending its number, not the PT setting within the account. You set this on your mobile. Yes, tried that... but its still not working. I am pretty sure the mobile is not sending callerID.... no matter what setting I use in the phone..... (there was no callerid when calling another mobile phone). I even tried the ptsim in another phone – same result. So it appears the ptsim will not let me turn callerid on (one way or another) in the mobile phone. So.... I'll wait until Monday... and hopefully there is some switch PT can push which will allow callerid. ... maybe I should have just kept using my first ptsim (which I have cancelled, of course!) H. |
posted 2009-May-24, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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can you go into Optus Zoo and set it to show caller Id, try the sim in another phone |
posted 2009-May-24, 12pm AEST
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User #58478 1291 posts
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can you go into Optus Zoo I joined Zoo last night...... but could not find where to switch callerid on on their site. H. |
posted 2009-May-24, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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no I can't either.... |
posted 2009-May-24, 1pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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I wish Pennytel could employ a Pennysim account portal similar to what 3 Mobile have. I was unhappy with 3 but I really liked their account portal – very overseable and you could activate/deactivate options for your SIM. Even had the IMEI and PUK code available. |
posted 2009-May-24, 2pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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well I suppose pt are still learning.....and setting it all up, also Optus seems to have wait another week attitude towards pt |
posted 2009-May-24, 2pm AEST
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User #276565 144 posts
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If I have caller id disabled on the pennytel website, the caller shows up as "Withheld" if I call from my pennysim. I read somewhere on this thread that pennytel tranfers the caller id from the pennysim, without us having to manually turn on the caller id feature on the website. Why is this not working for me? Also, data usage is still not showing up.. Come on Optus !! I am not really comfortable with using data without knowing the usage. Who bears the responsibility if I cross the 500mb limit, when the usage stats are not provided? I am going to read the fine print and check. |
posted 2009-May-24, 2pm AEST
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User #265230 189 posts
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"Ex-GST prices could be added in brackets for the benefit of customers exempt from paying GST." "Have take your advise and edited my initial POST Jocelyn" Last week in the Sunday Telegraph TV Guide week beginning 17th May there was a full page advert. for Pennysim and stating it was only $8 per month and no GST was mentioned. So one would assume that the GST was included. How about sorting out your public advertisements. Cloneme |
posted 2009-May-24, 3pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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perhaps we don't have to pay the gst now ? |
posted 2009-May-24, 4pm AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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perhaps we don't have to pay the gst now ? i would most certainly hope so :) |
posted 2009-May-24, 4pm AEST
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Last week in the Sunday Telegraph TV Guide week beginning 17th May there was a full page advert. for Pennysim and stating it was only $8 per month and no GST was mentioned. So one would assume that the GST was included. Unless the actual price is indeed $8 (GST included), Pennytel are skating on very thin ice there. I haven't seen the ad myself but if, as reported, there is no mention of GST in the ad, Pennytel could be done for false advertising. As it has been pointed out to them numerous times that all advertised prices should include GST, I'm surprised they haven't learned their lesson yet. Maybe it'll take a fine before they get the message. |
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User #288217 69 posts
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After much deliberation I have finally decided to purchase a pennysim. I have been using pennytel (with an ATA) for a while now and I think its great. Im hoping that pennysim works as well or better. And yes I have read the fine print so I expect to pay $8.80 per month. |
posted 2009-May-24, 9pm AEST
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User #231007 864 posts
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Unless the actual price is indeed $8 (GST included), Pennytel are skating on very thin ice there. I haven't seen the ad myself but if, as reported, there is no mention of GST in the ad, Pennytel could be done for false advertising. If the price does not mention that it is the ex-Gst price then Gst is included and the price is $8.00 all up. |
posted 2009-May-24, 10pm AEST
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User #16670 3125 posts
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My first ported PennySIM is going to be going ahead today – wish me luck! After this, there's no turning back – I lose my grandfathered plan with Three, so I can't just churn back if I'm not happy. Fingers crossed! |
posted 2009-May-25, 12am AEST
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User #25439 840 posts
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I lose my grandfathered plan with Three, so I can't just churn back if I'm not happy. i wish you all the luck as I’m in a situation where I will also not be able to go back to a grandfathered plan (what a strange name they call them!) if i port over. Me, I have also ordered a TPG sim and will forward calls to it for a 1 month for an experiment. |
posted 2009-May-25, 6am AEST
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I agreed totally about misleading information but watch out if you get double charged! I got a Pennysim for my wife and was doubled charged on my credit card. I emailed PT on April 21st advising such, they replied stating they will get one transaction refunded ASAP. 1 week later no response i emailed again and my reply was "being processed as we speak". Again another week passed May 5th my reply after another email "refunds are being processed". hmmm by now Pennytel seriously things should have been sorted. Treating customers like this is not professional by anyone's standards. So again I emailed May 18th my reply "amounts would be refunded today or tomorrow" and GUESS WHAT May 25th today, still no refund! Fair enough its only $8.80 but to me its more of the principal. I have over 10 accounts with PT (family and friends) but this has really left a sour taste in my mouth – will certainly be looking at TPG this week!!! |
posted 2009-May-25, 8am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Fair enough its only $8.80 but to me its more of the principal. Definitely principle BUT I wouldn' say that it's JUST $8.80. It's still money you shouldn't have been billed/charged for. this has really left a sour taste in my mouth I agree. Errors like this should certainly never occur – they just seem to happen quite a bit with Pennytel recently with regard to Pennysim! This really is unacceptable.... You don't want to be logging in and checking your account every day to check if all things are ok. Billing errors really shouldn't happen too often in this day and age. I understand Pennysim is a new product but this should not be an excuse for these errors to be happening. I really hope that these errors get ironed out in the next week or so. It already seems that Pennytel are taking funds from the main linked account now, for the Pennysim – this is a start in the right direction. |
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User #210322 1967 posts
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I was unhappy with 3 but I really liked their account portal – very overseable and you could activate/deactivate options for your SIM. We are in the process of providing this service very soon Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 9am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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We are in the process of providing this service very soon Brilliant! This will certainly clear up a lot of the "issues" people are having at the moment and certainly decrease your workload. |
posted 2009-May-25, 10am AEST
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User #185593 24 posts
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Hi Jocelyn My Ticket No. QLC-898533. Can you pls have a look at this. Thanks |
posted 2009-May-25, 10am AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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We are in the process of providing this service very soon What is the story with being able to use bpay when porting a sim. At the moment it seems to require a verified credit card though this seems to be depend also on the account. I have a friend who I introduced to pennytel perhaps over a year ago and he only uses bpay to deposit money into his account and he managed to port a sim over without a hitch. |
posted 2009-May-25, 11am AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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oh and are there any plans to remove the credit card requirement to use pennysim? i use bpay as well to avoid the credit card charge... so removing the credit card would prevent accidental charges due to the auto recharge |
posted 2009-May-25, 11am AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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Just got an email regarding just ordering DATAPLAN888. This was for an account from another family member. What is DATAPLAN888? I'll have to get back to them to see if they had ordered it. |
posted 2009-May-25, 11am AEST
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It's very wired, I failed to add more china numbers into my smartdial list right after I added 2 numbers without any problem. The error messeges are "there is an erro adding the number" , and the numbers I want to add are 001186991xxxxxxx (a China lindline number) and 00118613xxxxxxxxx (a China mobile number) The number got through are: 00118629xxxxxxxx (a China lindline number) , and 00118613xxxxxxxxx (a China mobile number) could anyone give me a light on this? thanks TY |
posted 2009-May-25, 12pm AEST
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What is DATAPLAN888? This is the 500Mb DATA plan – $8.88/month ($9.77 incl GST). |
posted 2009-May-25, 12pm AEST
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Port has gone through at 10am this morning. Was able to use the service within about 10 minutes, and was excited to finally have only one SIM (and not having to change SIMs to use my current number and my PennySIM – they're now all the same thing). Received the data configuration thing and was able to use that too. Only problem is, after half an hour of browsing and making calls through SmartDial, I am now blocked. All calls through SmartDial are now showing "Call Not Allowed" and Packet Data through Optus Internet is now saying "Packet Data Not Available", despite working well prior to that. I've continually got those automated "set up your voicemail" calls – a couple slipped through. I think it's unusual that it would work so well and THEN stop. I have checked SmartDial on the website, and it still has the phone number listed as an allowable number for SmartDial. I know this has happened in the past to myself and some others, but what did people do? Does it just start working by itself again? Should I do something? |
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User #210322 1967 posts
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I have had a pt sim since 05-05-09 and still no call records or charges. We are trying our best to update all the call records asap but it seems that one of the major factors that is causing this delay is that some people are taking advantage of the NO CONTRACT service we have on our services. We have a lot of customers who are on the Data Plan are changing their plans constantly in order to avoid the Casual Rate charges. However, we shall do our best ane ensure that the Call details are updated asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 12pm AEST
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Should I do something? 1/ Is your CLD still enabled? – I don't see why this would disable itself though. 2/ Have you still got credit in your account? This is all I can think of at the moment. |
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Thanks for replying! 1/ Is your CLD still enabled? – I don't see why this would disable itself though. Yes – double checked, and "send my Caller ID" is set to "yes" 2/ Have you still got credit in your account? Piles. The credit is in three figures. So no problems there. I've already lodged a support ticket about it. |
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Thanks for replying! No probs. Try turning the phone off then on again – long shot! |
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Try turning the phone off then on again – long shot! I've even done that – several times! I am Whimming Jocelyn to see if she can help. I can make ordinary calls on the phone (direct) but it still won't connect to any SmartDial number. It just says "Call Not Allowed" and still no data. It's weird that it worked first, and now won't, all in the first six hours of porting over. |
posted 2009-May-25, 3pm AEST
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I still am getting errors syncing contacts from my ptsim and web portal. I sent you whim last week. My Ticket No. QLC-898533. Can you pls have a look at this. Thanks Dear Maria Please be advised that I have looked at your setup and it happens to that you do not have a mapping for the smart dial service. Can you please take a look at the setting and if you still require issue to be addressed and then please contact us Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 4pm AEST
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What is the story with being able to use bpay when porting a sim. This is also due to be addressed very very soon.. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 4pm AEST
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I can make ordinary calls on the phone (direct) but it still won't connect to any SmartDial number. It just says "Call Not Allowed" It seems that the Smart Dial Access number was not updated to the new Pilot number and the mapping was not setup correctly on the web portal. and still no data. Working with Optus to see what is wrong with this Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 4pm AEST
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It's very wired, I failed to add more china numbers into my smartdial list right after I added 2 numbers without any problem. Can you please whim me your Ticket Number Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-25, 5pm AEST
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User #58478 1291 posts
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Smart dial now working OK for me. Thanks Jim for turning on the callerid of my ptsim Harry. |
posted 2009-May-25, 5pm AEST
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User #208583 36 posts
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I've pretty much read all PennySIM threads from the start, but can't recall reading anything about video calling. I just attempted to make my first video call with my Nokia 5800 from my PennySIM, which failed. The message I get is "Unable to make video call. Not supported by other phone network". I have tried calling to both the Telstra network and the Optus network. - Does Pennytel need to activate video calls first? Has anyone managed to make video calls from their PennySIM and did you have to do anything special before it started working? |
posted 2009-May-25, 7pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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u would need at least mms.... |
posted 2009-May-25, 7pm AEST
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User #208583 36 posts
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u would need at least mms.... Ah, that would explain the problem, then. Thanks. |
posted 2009-May-25, 7pm AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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This is also due to be addressed very very soon.. Regarding ofcourse the bpay payments only for sim porting. Please let us all know when it is available, perhaps as an announcement also when one logs into their account. |
posted 2009-May-25, 7pm AEST
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video calling As far as I know this is not available on the Pennysim: http://www.pennytel.com/au/index.jsp If it is and can be activated then it would most certainly be expensive – $1/min + 35c flagfall. |
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I guess I'll have to wait until Pennytel wakes up to activate MMS... They told me mine was activated a day or two ago (several weeks after requesting it), and I even got sent the settings automatically. It says it's enabled in Optus Zoo.... but I still can't send MMS: "Failed to send – network error. Try again later". |
posted 2009-May-25, 8pm AEST
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User #25439 840 posts
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What the hell!!! ??? **ANOTHER ** penny sim number has shown up on my account under the drop down menu penny sim numbers i pray I’m not getting charged for someone’s else’s mobile number!!! actually come to think of it I’m not religious but maybe if I convert all these issues will be fixed.... maybe wont bother for the moment with a support ticket as the last ticket i raised...well |
posted 2009-May-25, 8pm AEST
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video calling As far as I know this is not available on the Pennysim: |
posted 2009-May-25, 8pm AEST
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I'm having problems now with reinstalling the PennytelMobile application on my Nokia E71. I've had miscellaneous problems now, and although Jocelyn has been very helpful in fixing these one by one, I'm having some new problems. When I first set up PennytelMobile 1.00 on my Nokia E71, I was easily able to use my Wi-Fi connection on the phone to get into the "address book" section of the Mobile Application, click on "update from server", and it would set up SmartDial codes for all the numbers in my Pennytel Address book on the Pennytel server. With me having two phones for a while on Smart Dial, I deleted all the entries from SmartDial and went back to the "use single number" to force use of the pilot number so as not to allow each phone to conflict with each other. Anyway, I'm back with my first ported number on a PennySIM, and want to synchronise it with with the server, as I want to get off the "use single number" and be able to sync my numbers to SmartDial numbers automatically, like I did before. However, I can log in, I can use the other features, including sending SMS (which requires data), but when I attempt to synchronise the Pennytel Address Book, I get this error: "Error. I'm sorry the application encountered a problem and will close. Please try again." This does not change. Anyone got any suggestions before I lodge another ticket with Pennytel to see what I can do to fix it? Thanks, guys. |
posted 2009-May-25, 9pm AEST
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just ordered a sim, hope i made the right choice :) |
posted 2009-May-25, 9pm AEST
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just ordered a sim, hope i made the right choice :) I have faith that the initial problems some are having are teething problems. Once I got my other SIMs up and running, SmartDial was a huge success – I loved it. 90 minute calls to the US for just 8c on your mobile is pretty amazing. |
posted 2009-May-25, 9pm AEST
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They told me mine was activated a day or two ago (several weeks after requesting it), and I even got sent the settings automatically. It says it's enabled in Optus Zoo.... but I still can't send MMS: "Failed to send – network error. Try again later". sounds like my story. After numerous support emails and whims, Jocelyn finally got optus to reset my profile and mms started working on my primary mobile. Seems like I have to go through the same process again with my wifes phone, got the optus settings sent down, sent numerous emails, whim, last was told to remove and reinsert the sim card done that but no luck. Now its well over over a month since requested service and also got number ported. |
posted 2009-May-25, 10pm AEST
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On a different note is anyone having issues with pennytel API? my address book is not down loading on my pennytel sms application any more but my balance does. I think something is wrong with my address book on pennytel. |
posted 2009-May-25, 10pm AEST
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"Error. I'm sorry the application encountered a problem and will close. Please try again." Hi BearDoc, I get the same error when I try to run the app on my wife's Sagem My501C. Unfortunately, I've never been able to make it work and am going to get a new handset for her. ...I guess it won't be an E71! |
posted 2009-May-25, 10pm AEST
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All you have to do is email your cancellation request to support@pennytel.com and it will get processed Jocelyn Just some further feedback for pennytel, asking to cancel service, to activate services or anything to do with pennysim we are first told to email support@pennytel.com , an automated response comes within minutes to acknowledge. Then about 24 hours later another generic email comes to say that email has been forwared to penny sim support. Why don't we just directly email pennytel sim support at ptsim@pennytel.com? Save a middle party wasting time and resources. It also seems that pennysim support don't really read the emails you send, they just send generic replies thank god we have the likes of Jocelyn and Jim here or else I would have quit pt. |
posted 2009-May-25, 10pm AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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**ANOTHER ** penny sim number has shown up on my account I just got an email out of the blue saying We acknowledge the receipt of your service request below. Service: DATAPLAN888 .... what service request? Anyway I have sent off an email to cancel. I'd rather have the small pizza. |
posted 2009-May-25, 10pm AEST
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...I guess it won't be an E71! The point though was that it USED to work just fine with my E71 – but doesn't now that I've reinstalled. Cannot work out why, either. |
posted 2009-May-25, 11pm AEST
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On a different note is anyone having issues with pennytel API? my address book is not down loading on my pennytel sms application any more but my balance does. I think something is wrong with my address book on pennytel. That's ultimately the same issue I was having. I was thinking it's just me, but maybe it's the Pennytel server side that is not responding with Address Book synchronisation! |
posted 2009-May-25, 11pm AEST
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We have a lot of customers who are on the Data Plan are changing their plans constantly in order to avoid the Casual Rate charges. Perhaps this could be solved by rather than having a "no contract" system, having a "one month" contract, and people that purchase a plan can change it only once a month? |
posted 2009-May-25, 11pm AEST
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Why don't we just directly email pennytel sim support at ptsim@pennytel.com? Tried that, and Jocelyn asked me to send it via support@pennytel.com... |
posted 2009-May-25, 11pm AEST
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Yes, same here. Jocelyn ask me to email support@penntel.com. Once you have Ticket ID then whim her, then she could look at the issue Fair enough |
posted 2009-May-26, 12am AEST
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Tried that, and Jocelyn asked me to send it via support@pennytel.com Wonder why there is such alot of double handling? We are lucky that Jocelyn is happy to follow up our ticket id as soon as the automated reply comes. Otherwise another day is wasted before a generic reply directs our request to for pennysim support and then in the end we receive another generic response. Imagine trying to trouble shoot without whirlpool and the likes of Jocelyn. Lol. |
posted 2009-May-26, 5am AEST
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maybe it's the Pennytel server side that is not responding with Address Book synchronisation I agree I have already reinstalled the application multiple times and used different computers with same result. Considering that it was all working fine previously I am very much inclined to think it is pennytel server. |
posted 2009-May-26, 6am AEST
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sorry it double posted for some reason. |
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Has anyone managed to make video calls from their PennySIM and did you have to do anything special before it started working? As any additional service, you will have to email ptsim@pennytel.com requesting to activate this service Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 9am AEST
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**ANOTHER ** penny sim number has shown up on my account under the drop down menu penny sim numbers Can you please whim me with your contact details Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 10am AEST
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Perhaps this could be solved by rather than having a "no contract" system, having a "one month" contract, and people that purchase a plan can change it only once a month? Thanks for the honest feedback.. Will raise it with teh management Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 10am AEST
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I guess I'll have to wait until Pennytel wakes up to activate MMS... Please whim me your ticket number and I will have this request escalated Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 11am AEST
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Anyone got any suggestions before I lodge another ticket with Pennytel to see what I can do to fix it? Thanks, guys. Can you please click on debug mode and copy the message displayed and send an email to feedback@pennytel.com so our developers can look into the issue asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 11am AEST
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Please be advised that I have looked at your setup and it happens to that you do not have a mapping for the smart dial service. Thanks jocelyn – will get this done and advise you back |
posted 2009-May-26, 11am AEST
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User #25439 840 posts
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an you please whim me with your contact details Jocelyn - Whimed Thanks Jocelyn Now if only the Optus call logs would be updated and i will be a happy camper... |
posted 2009-May-26, 11am AEST
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Now if only the Optus call logs would be updated and i will be a happy camper... Hopefully this will be done very soon Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 11am AEST
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User #68711 147 posts
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I was going to email pennytel but thought the answers would probably be useful for others to know too. Pennyel As you recall I had my pennysim stolen on a saturday and wasn't able to block the phone until monday when pennytel was back at work. If anyone stole the phone they are unlikely to use smardial so I'm mainly concerned about calls made directly through optus. Will the new phone controls have any way to block the phone or prevent calls being made. Kim |
posted 2009-May-26, 1pm AEST
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I just got an email out of the blue saying We acknowledge the receipt of your service request below. Service: DATAPLAN888 Same here I got that email too that too on my wife's SIM where will never ever get data as she never going to use it. Have email support received ticket but no answer since 4 days now. |
posted 2009-May-26, 1pm AEST
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Thought I will re-put my post here as seems it was the last post on previous thread and PT reps haven't responded on that to me yet. Now I am again disappointed. PT reps if you guys recall I told some time back that if I call pilot and than dial the destination number it shows me the correct callerID and not the one in my PTVoip profile. Now suddenly it have stopped working. What have you guys changed to something which was working like a charm :( |
posted 2009-May-26, 1pm AEST
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Thought I will re-put my post here as seems it was the last post on previous thread and PT reps haven't responded on that to me yet. Now I am again disappointed. PT reps if you guys recall I told some time back that if I call pilot and than dial the destination number it shows me the correct callerID and not the one in my PTVoip profile. Now suddenly it have stopped working. What have you guys changed to something which was working like a charm :( yea though mine didnt work like how urs did (correct CID on smartdial) i do hope that PT could implement the right CID via smartdial. currently, i set it to disable CID which is kinda cumbersome when someone picks up ur call and sounded confused for the first 3 seconds before they realize its u. pls PT fix this problem :) |
posted 2009-May-26, 2pm AEST
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We acknowledge the receipt of your service request below. Service: DATAPLAN888 .... what service request? Anyway I have sent off an email to cancel. Can I please get your Ticket number so we can find out why this happened in the first place Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 2pm AEST
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Same here I got that email too that too on my wife's SIM where will never ever get data as she never going to use it. Have email support received ticket but no answer since 4 days now. Can you please whim me your details and ticekt number as we will need to investigate this issue asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 2pm AEST
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Dear kimh, Please find your answers below: Are the optus call charges dependant on my pennytel account balance, PennySim is composed of two separate elements 1. PennyVoip – which allows you to use the PennyMobile application and Smartdial feature to make your outgoing calls through PennyTel and then 2. PennySIM – that allows you to call directly through the SIM and take advantage of the calls rates to Australia Landline and Mobile at 8cent/30sec billed per second. Now the PennyVoip component will be on a prepaid system where call charges will be deducted almost immediately. However, PennySIM call details records will only be avaiable on a weekly basis and will only be charged once all the details have been updated to your Main PennyTel account. Due to this setup,in order to use PennySIM it is mandatory that you have Auto recharge and a verified credit card setup on your Main PennyTel. If anyone stole the phone they are unlikely to use smardial so I'm mainly concerned about calls made directly through optus. In the case if your phone is stolen and we are not able to block the outbound calls then this issue will be dealt and decided by the management on an individual case by case basis. I hope I have answered your queries. Let em knwo if I have missed anything Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 3pm AEST
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Thought I will re-put my post here as seems it was the last post on previous thread and PT reps haven't responded on that to me yet. Such situations are examples of why we really request that you open a Support Ticekt and Whim us the Ticket number so it can be answered promptly. Now suddenly it have stopped working. What have you guys changed to something which was working like a charm :( Can you please whim me the ticekt number asap together with the sample dialed number Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-26, 3pm AEST
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Can you please click on debug mode and copy the message displayed and send an email to feedback@pennytel.com so our developers can look into the issue asap Done – thank you, Jocelyn, for your help this morning and in getting this looked at by the developers! |
posted 2009-May-26, 3pm AEST
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i just wanted to confirm the number format we should use for smaildial to overseas destinations. I was wondering if it should be 622156xxxxx or 0011622156xxxxx |
posted 2009-May-26, 10pm AEST
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I have been told either works but I use the 6188xxxxxxx format here, otherwords the one phonebook should work from anywhere in the world. |
posted 2009-May-26, 10pm AEST
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I remember people actually using the Pennytel voicemail service instead of the Optus one – just wondering:
If it is worth it, i'll plonk down my $15 to get a DID on a second account and run the voicemail through the second account! |
posted 2009-May-27, 12am AEST
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i just wanted to confirm the number format we should use for smaildial to overseas destinations. I was wondering if it should be 622156xxxxx or 0011622156xxxxx You should use the international dialing code 0011 for smartdial. Using only 6221 would not work. |
posted 2009-May-27, 1am AEST
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You should use the international dialing code 0011 for smartdial. Using only 6221 would not work. thanks. I had a feeling this could be the case. Can you confirm if you have tested this or this is just what you think? |
posted 2009-May-27, 8am AEST
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I remember people actually using the Pennytel voicemail service instead of the Optus one Here is another possibility to reduce retrieval costs if you like the reliability of Optus voicemail:- /forum-replies.cfm?t=1200530#r6 /forum-replies.cfm?t=1200530&p=2#r24 With the Optus service you get sent a SMS notification of voicemail which is part of the cost of the service. And from Jocelyn regarding PT voicemail access numbers if you use the 2nd DID account method ($15/3yrs):- |
posted 2009-May-27, 8am AEST
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Can you please whim me the ticekt number asap together with the sample dialed number Jocelyn I whimed and got a v.quick response from Jocelyn but I am not happy to that response. Here is the response: "Yes there was a change. Before we only forward the PTSIM mobile number as CLI but we encounter a lot of request that Customers want there verified cli to be displayed. That is why the changes on our end was made." How does that make sense. Most of us here have been talking about ability to display PTSim number even if we use Pilot and destination or Smartdial so that we don't have to have seperate PTVoip account. And now suddenly I have been told that thing which was working and was good people have to complain. |
posted 2009-May-27, 1pm AEST
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How does that make sense. Most of us here have been talking about ability to display PTSim number even if we use Pilot and destination or Smartdial so that we don't have to have seperate PTVoip account. And now suddenly I have been told that thing which was working and was good people have to complain. I totally agree with you naiknb..... I would very much like that my mobile Pennysim CID is displayed whenever I make a Smartdial or Pilot Access Number call even though my linked account will show my home verified CID. Simple isn't it! When you are on the mobile or for whatever type of call you make from the mobile, you want its number displayed..... |
posted 2009-May-27, 2pm AEST
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Simple isn't it! When you are on the mobile or for whatever type of call you make from the mobile, you want its number displayed..... We understand that this is one option that customers would like to have but then there a lot of customers who want they verified CLI's displayed. Though please note that we are in the process of trying to address the option of having a user defined CLI for Calls made through the Smart Dial service on PennySIM Please bear with us for now. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-27, 2pm AEST
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Please bear with us for now. Great news! Thanks for the update Jocelyn. |
posted 2009-May-27, 3pm AEST
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l... We understand that this is one option that customers would like to have but then there a lot of customers who want they verified CLI's displayed. Well those customers shouldn't be than using mobile phone. Though please note that we are in the process of trying to address the option of having a user defined CLI for Calls made through the Smart Dial service on PennySIM Please bear with us for now. That is awesome news...but meanwhile can you re-activate what was there before? As being a mobile service mobile number being displayed makes more sense in all ways than the defined CLI. |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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simple solution would be to add a "default" CID to that option where default sends ur actual real CID instead... so everyones happy :) i m 100% for sending my mobile's number instead of the verified numbers |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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User #13453 225 posts
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What will happen in situations where there are two PennySIM's attached to the one account. I have my PennySIM, my Wifes pennySIM, and our normal pennyVoIP phone all on the one account. So if I change the CID to my mobile, when we use the VoIP phone, or her mobile though smartdial, people will think its me and so on. Ben |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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User #209212 673 posts
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So if I change the CID to my mobile, when we use the VoIP phone, or her mobile though smartdial, people will think its me and so on. Just sign up another PT Voip account :) |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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Just sign up another PT Voip account :) for ppl on the freedom plan, signing up for another account means additional $5. or ppl on the TTYD plan would mean additional $18.88 |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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yeah, but my old account is free from all the CC surcharges etc, and its handy to have it all in the once place. I am not really that fussed about the CID, I just wish I could set it to private, so it would come up as unknown on peoples phones from both mobiles and the home voip phone. But this feature is broken, and setting it to private, means it comes up with some random 02 xxxx xxxx number. Ben |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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I am not really that fussed about the CID, I just wish I could set it to private, so it would come up as unknown on peoples phones from both mobiles and the home voip phone. But this feature is broken, and setting it to private, means it comes up with some random 02 xxxx xxxx number. disable CID @ call features @ profile i did that and all my calls are "Private" |
posted 2009-May-27, 4pm AEST
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how many pennysim can I attach to 1 pennytel account? |
posted 2009-May-27, 5pm AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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how many pennysim can I attach to 1 pennytel account? As many as you want...however if you're using the pennytel java app for sms, texts will all have the same sender mobile number. Same with caller ID using SmartDial, it will be the same as the account, so all will appear to be the same phone. |
posted 2009-May-27, 5pm AEST
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I have my PennySIM, my Wifes pennySIM, and our normal pennyVoIP phone all on the one account. So if I change the CID to my mobile, when we use the VoIP phone, or her mobile though smartdial, people will think its me and so on. Ben Thats exactly the problem is, earlier it use to show the mobile number from which you are dialing and now it have stopped. |
posted 2009-May-27, 5pm AEST
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disable CID @ call features @ profile i did that and all my calls are "Private" I don't answer calls from Private and don't expect others to answer it either.... |
posted 2009-May-27, 5pm AEST
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When is your account debited after applying for a SIM? PT don't tell you much about this part of the process. |
posted 2009-May-27, 6pm AEST
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When is your account debited after applying for a SIM? Very soon after you apply. I applied on May 18 for a SIM (with number port) and within an hour my credit card was hit for the monthly fee ($8.80 +50c if it's a new account). When SIM arrived it showed May 28 as porting date. I am assuming the 18th of the month will be the regular billing date so I have just blown 10 days of the first month. |
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Very soon after you apply. I applied on May 18 for a SIM (with number port) and within an hour my credit card was hit for the monthly fee Thanks, I applied for one at 16:30 and the other att about 17:00 today but nothing has happened yet, My credit card has been previously verified and I have setup auto re-charge, so if nothing happens by tomorrow AM I'll give them a call. |
posted 2009-May-27, 7pm AEST
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When is your account debited after applying for a SIM? For me, my first 'test' one was debited probably about 2-3 weeks after applying, but my next two ported ones didn't get debited until my monthly plan debit date. |
posted 2009-May-27, 7pm AEST
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any news on cheaper sms perhaps $5 blocks ? = 50 |
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Hmmm my porting request from Vodafone went real well. Not! Optus customers can now call me but it looks like people from other networks get a message"this vodafone is switched off" My support ticket SSO-405293 lodged on saturday still has no responce and i'm not getting important calls. |
posted 2009-May-27, 9pm AEST
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i m 100% for sending my mobile's number instead of the verified numbers +1 |
posted 2009-May-27, 9pm AEST
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We understand that this is one option that customers would like to have but then there a lot of customers who want they verified CLI's displayed. Though please note that we are in the process of trying to address the option of having a user defined CLI for Calls made through the Smart Dial service on PennySIM When this is working it will be the best of both worlds – I'll be looking forward to Pennytel setting up this sort of functionality! |
posted 2009-May-27, 10pm AEST
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I have my PennySIM, my Wifes pennySIM, and our normal pennyVoIP phone all on the one account. So if I change the CID to my mobile, when we use the VoIP phone, or her mobile though smartdial, people will think its me and so on. Yes, this is my situation, and I'd obviously prefer each PennySIM to have the mobile number displayed. But until configurable CID becomes available, there's going to be nothing that will satisfy anyone. Some will want a single CID sent, others will want the mobile numbers sent (I'm in the latter). But I'm prepared to wait if they're working on it. Still, I miss the old functionality – sending PennySIM CIDs regardless of your Profile CID settings. |
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Yay i got my PennySIM but a litle confused about smartdial. From my understanding im supposed to call a 'smartdial' number to call my friend, is that right? |
posted 2009-May-27, 10pm AEST
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We all don't want much do we.Want all the features for 10.5 mobile and .08c landline call. Funny how cheap bastards are the most demanding,I see it across my industry as well. |
posted 2009-May-27, 10pm AEST
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hanks. I had a feeling this could be the case. Can you confirm if you have tested this or this is just what you think? Yes, I have tried it. It wont work if you use only the country code using PennySIM smartdial. I complained about it, and PT support suggested me to use the international prefix 0011. The only problem is I have to dial it manually every time I ring overseas number!! The smartdial settings dont accept 0011 prefix. I've asked PT support but so far no reply. |
posted 2009-May-28, 12am AEST
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Yes, I have tried it. It wont work if you use only the country code using PennySIM smartdial I have kept the pennyvoip dialplan to the default. I make all calls using the country code, including Aust and overseas. 0011 is not necessary. This is via the pilot number and the smartdial numbers as configured on the www page. |
posted 2009-May-28, 12am AEST
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I have kept the pennyvoip dialplan to the default. I make all calls using the country code, including Aust and overseas. 0011 is not necessary. This is via the pilot number and the smartdial numbers as configured on the www page. Thanks it seems like i will have to do some testing as people seem to be saying opposite things. Since i am developing an app that scync the phone tot he smartdial list on android i need to make sure i get it right :) |
posted 2009-May-28, 7am AEST
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We all don't want much do we.Want all the features for 10.5 mobile and .08c landline call. Funny how cheap bastards are the most demanding It does seem that a lot of posters on here are demanding alot of features for a budget service. |
posted 2009-May-28, 7am AEST
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concentrate on fixing and maintaining the core of the service Second that. |
posted 2009-May-28, 8am AEST
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he other requests of displaying one number and not the other (there were some who were requesting the pennysim # not be displayed) And what made you think that displaying PTSim number is not a basic service? In ability to show correct callerID is the worst thing for any service provider. And above all this is something which was working and they suddenly stopped it. Though overall I agree that they need to concentrate more on their core service for that reason have been saying many times on this forum just piggy back to Optus online system and let us handle our that part of stuff ourselves. |
posted 2009-May-28, 9am AEST
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And what made you think that displaying PTSim number is not a basic service? In ability to show correct callerID is the worst thing for any service provider. And above all this is something which was working and they suddenly stopped it. I don't think it was working for Smartdial. I've had a Pennysim since very early on and it never worked for Smartdial, but it did work for ANI Callback. |
posted 2009-May-28, 9am AEST
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I don't think it was working for Smartdial. I've had a Pennysim since very early on and it never worked for Smartdial, but it did work for ANI Callback. If you have PTSim and been following this forum than you must have come pass my post where I have said that I have tested with my two PTSim on same PTVoip account and using Pilot number it use to work. Also Jocelyn have told me on whim that they have stopped it as people demanded that their verified CLI rather be displayed. |
posted 2009-May-28, 9am AEST
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Well those customers shouldn't be than using mobile phone. unfortunately, when they log their suggestion to us then feel otherwise. That is awesome news...but meanwhile can you re-activate what was there before I can try but am not sure if and how quick it can be done as the developers prefer to address the issue and provide a resolution for all in one hit Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 10am AEST
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Ahh, sry, this is a little bit off topic, but here I can address the most of the users: Have anyone had issues with calls in Melbourne? I called a customer in Melbourne this morning, and the voice detection level was that low, I could only understand him, when he was speaking very loud. Does anyone have made equal experiences? ... or maybe with calls from Brisbane and or to Melbourne? Thanks. |
posted 2009-May-28, 10am AEST
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unfortunately, when they log their suggestion to us then feel otherwise What i mean was to let those customers know that PTSim is mobile service where sending out Sim CLI is normal and based on such suggestions you shouldn't be stopping something which was working. I am really unhappy and pissed off as before getting my wife number ported i did a test on two PTSim on my same PT account to make sure that i can have actual sim caller ID displayed. How long does it take to revert it back to original? |
posted 2009-May-28, 11am AEST
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Thanks, I applied for one at 16:30 and the other att about 17:00 today but nothing has happened yet, My credit card has been previously verified Please ensure that your credit card has been verified ater 1st July 2008 as this is when we updated to a new payment gateway. Any credit cards verified prior to this date will require to be verified again Thanks |
posted 2009-May-28, 11am AEST
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My support ticket SSO-405293 Porting department are looking at this issue with Optus at this moment Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 11am AEST
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The only problem is I have to dial it manually every time I ring overseas number!! The smartdial settings dont accept 0011 prefix. I've asked PT support but so far no reply. This is something we cannot do immediately over our end. Its a lot of processing and changes that need to be made as we need to work with Optus as well on this issue. Just like any normal teleco. they require the standard internation formats to be dialled when using smartdial service. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 11am AEST
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As it is almost 3 weeks since the last update of PTSIM calls/data charges, it might be worth a reminder to top up your account if you prefer to pay via Bpay and avoid auto recharge on your credit card. We have moved to PTSIM from prepay, and have to say it was so much easier to just call and get your balance. Jocelyn has said a number of times that charges will be updated "very soon" but she must have a different definition of soon ;-) |
posted 2009-May-28, 12pm AEST
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Jocelyn, i asked support if my data was enabled (which i requested weeks back) they haven't responded... Ticket ID: ZBS-379646 also due to the constraints of running two pennysims on one account (eg caller id, no crazy talk or a similar deal for two)... so i need to sign up for another pennytel account.. i'm not happy to be paying 50c for every transaction.. as its something i dont pay now on my account opened years ago. can pennytel show the same loyalty and let us long running customers setup a 2nd account without this nasty fee? |
posted 2009-May-28, 12pm AEST
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Suddenly my ported mobile can send sms but not receive them? .... stopped me paying some bills today as the bank could not send me their sms code for the transaction to go through. I can send sms to the same mobile.... but nobody else? I tried pt's online support.... and they have escalated it. Maybe I caused this trying to set up voicemail last night? H. |
posted 2009-May-28, 1pm AEST
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Please ensure that your credit card has been verified ater 1st July 2008 as this is when we updated to a new payment gateway. Any credit cards verified prior to this date will require to be verified again y credit card has been previously verified and I have setup auto re-charge, My credit card has been verified Jocelyn, this is what I said. |
posted 2009-May-28, 2pm AEST
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Yay i got my PennySIM but a litle confused about smartdial. From my understanding im supposed to call a 'smartdial' number to call my friend, is that right? Yes – you "map" a smartdial number to one of your chosen friend, and then when you call the smartdial number from your phone, Pennytel knows who you are (from your caller ID) and then looks up where the call should be routed, and makes that call for you. |
posted 2009-May-28, 2pm AEST
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I tried pt's online support.... and they have escalated it. Maybe I caused this trying to set up voicemail last night? Have you been provided with a Ticket number that you can forward to me and I will get it looked at asap jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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How long does it take to revert it back to original? I am not sure. We are trying is to fix this issue in the proper manner rather than to delay this process by providing a temp solution. Once this issue is fixed with the customised CLI option then we would have addressed everyones issue in one hit but if in the meantime we keep changing the settings back and forth then we will be going no where and hence be faced with a lot of complains and support tickets. Please note that we are trying to provide a final solution asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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Jocelyn did you read my post at the bottom of page 8???? |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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Please ensure that your credit card has been verified ater 1st July 2008 as this is when we updated to a new payment gateway. Any credit cards verified prior to this date will require to be verified again OK, I have discovered that when I go into Support->My Orders it tells me about the SIM. So the answer to my question has been answered. |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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Still waiting on my refund for pennysim overcharges, send many whims have two outstanding tickets dated 4-may-09 and 26-may-09. Is anything going to be done? |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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Jocelyn, i asked support if my data was enabled (which i requested weeks back) they haven't responded... Ticket ID: ZBS-379646 Hi please note that your request has been resubmitted to optus for urgent processing Jocelyn Edit: post was edited as I looked at the wrong order |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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can pennytel show the same loyalty and let us long running customers setup a 2nd account without this nasty fee? Honestly, this is a management decision but I will forward it to them Jocelyn |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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i got my pennysim in april.... so its not new... its activated, only i'm not sure if data is turned on.. plus i need the settings for it.. thanks for forwarding that to management, i will be signed straight up for another account if the answer is yes.. i've now got most of my family using pennytel voip, didnt know about the 50c charge until my dad told me.. |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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now i've received an email saying i've been charged AUD 15.26 for DATAPLAN1388... i never asked for a data plan i asked for data to be turned on???? what want to send some sms's via data to see how it works. why have i been charged?? |
posted 2009-May-28, 3pm AEST
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this is the email i sent to support Hi, Is data enabled on my phone? 6146600XXX? Can you please enable it and send me the data settings. thanks Scott now they have charged me for the 1gb data plan.... |
posted 2009-May-28, 4pm AEST
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i never asked for a data plan i asked for data to be turned on???? what want to send some sms's via data to see how it works. why have i been charged?? How would you expect to send SMS via data without a "Data Plan" ? |
posted 2009-May-28, 4pm AEST
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casual data mate, u dont need a plan |
posted 2009-May-28, 4pm AEST
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sorry to post this here again but I don't want to go and search back in forum just lazy me ;) Can I use two PTSim on same account with Crazy Talk plan? Currently with Free Access Untimed I am able to. |
posted 2009-May-28, 6pm AEST
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As it is almost 3 weeks since the last update of PTSIM calls/data charges, it might be worth a reminder to top up your account if you prefer to pay via Bpay and avoid auto recharge on your credit card. Jocelyn has said a number of times that charges will be updated "very soon" but she must have a different definition of soon ;-) it was just over 3 weeks for me but has just arrived for one sim.....yipeeeeee |
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Yes, I have tried it. It wont work if you use only the country code using PennySIM smartdial. I complained about it, and PT support suggested me to use the international prefix 0011. The only problem is I have to dial it manually every time I ring overseas number!! The smartdial settings don't accept 0011 prefix. I've asked PT support but so far no reply. Gundala jsut so you know i spoke to one of the Pennytel developers as i am using the Pennytel API. I was told that you don't need the 0011. personally i have not had a chance to test it just yet but i hope to this weekend. |
posted 2009-May-28, 7pm AEST
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casual data mate, u dont need a plan How do you get the casual data plan and where can I find information on it at the pennytel web site? I still haven't had my data application activated which I had applied for back around 15th April. I have written many times to PT but always get "we will escalate your issue for further assistance" then last email says "the issue has been addressed and will close" Doh! If anyone from PT is reading this my ticket no. is Ticket ID: ACQ-460981 Cloneme |
posted 2009-May-28, 8pm AEST
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How's that for service? And I went away for 3 weeks overseas and requested Global Roaming well before I went away and was told that it should be activated but it wasn't. While I'm at it they can't help me with getting my Penny mobile application to login. it requires a $250 deposit to go along with that activation... so my best bet is that u didnt put in the deposit |
posted 2009-May-28, 9pm AEST
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Pennytel are doing well, recieved a phone call to say they will look into it, and ever since my phone now cant even activate onto the network! Lost all calling capabilities now. Good Work! Hmmm my porting request from Vodafone went real well. Not! Optus customers can now call me but it looks like people from other networks get a message"this vodafone is switched off" My support ticket SSO-405293 lodged on saturday still has no responce and i'm not getting important calls. |
posted 2009-May-28, 11pm AEST
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Pennytel are doing well, recieved a phone call to say they will look into it, and ever since my phone now cant even activate onto the network! Lost all calling capabilities now. Good Work! I lost my connection yesterday too. It was also ported from Vodafone (/Exetel) – last week actually. My loss of service was "gradual" – first I could not receive sms......then voice calls...... and later the sim says it cannot register. I have placed a support request ...... and Jocelyn is on the case..... so here's hoping it will be fixed today! H. |
posted 2009-May-29, 7am AEST
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How do you get the casual data plan +1 Don't want to just email support because the only plans listed on the website are 1GB and above and definitely don't need that. Just want to run the Colby app for SMS Also just want to confirm the price for casual data is $0.005/Kb |
posted 2009-May-29, 10am AEST
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it requires a $250 deposit to go along with that activation... so my best bet is that u didnt put in the deposit Well well, can't see that posted anywhere and was not told by Jocelyn when she was accepting my application via email. So where is the casual data plan then and how do you get it? Cloneme |
posted 2009-May-29, 10am AEST
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Has anyone of you problems with their credit. Yesterday I had 16 $, this morning, I suddenly have an update on my PTSIM record, but only exactly 10 $ credit. And I have not made any phone calls in between... I am really wondering if there is a "natural" reason for this, or if PT made a mistake. If they made a mistake, that would mean they do not handle the money I send them correctly and I would have to recalculate everything manually just to be sure they have not stolen my money! Jocelyn can you help please? Ticket ID: QGU-946475 |
posted 2009-May-29, 10am AEST
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cloneme writes... How do you get the casual data plan +1 Don't want to just email support because the only plans listed on the website are 1GB and above and definitely don't need that. Just want to run the Colby app for SMS Also just want to confirm the price for casual data is $0.005/Kb well i just wanted casual data enabled and i've been billed for 1gb plan i will never use (just wanted to try colby like you)... so be careful.. still waiting to here back about WHY i was charged 1gb when asking for data to be enabled. |
posted 2009-May-29, 11am AEST
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Yesterday I had 16 $, this morning, I suddenly have an update on my PTSIM record, but only exactly 10 $ credit. And I have not made any phone calls in between... Did you check your PennySIM call logs for the last 30 days? Sounds like you spent $6 of Optus calls/sms/data – these are only charged once the records update. My records are correct, and I have only been charged for what I used (one accidental direct phone call :P) |
posted 2009-May-29, 11am AEST
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Did you check your PennySIM call logs for the last 30 days? Sounds like you spent $6 of Optus calls/sms/data – these are only charged once the records update. Yes I checked my records thrice ... but not my SMSes. So I had to pay $ 1.3 for one phone call (everything else has been free... Very nice!) but $ 4.77 for SMSes, that adds up to $ 6.07 and I had exactly $ 16.07 on my credit, so as to this morning, this substracts to exactly $ 10... That confused me, so I thought something must have been went wrong, but. No, everything is fine by now. Even the support answered my email after less than 4 hours! Thanks PT, your service is getting better! |
posted 2009-May-29, 12pm AEST
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Has anyone of you had problems with the voice detection level? Yesterday I made a phone call, and understood the other end hardly (with a softphone). |
posted 2009-May-29, 12pm AEST
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Now that our sim records are showing again, how much are people getting charged for the data for making a single sms on casual data plan? Anyone else got similar costs? I thought someone estimated it would cost about 1c for sms data. |
posted 2009-May-29, 12pm AEST
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Anyone else got similar costs? I thought someone estimated it would cost about 1c for sms data. I read that it would cost around 1c as well – however my trial shows the cost to be around 4c per SMS for data on the casual plan – Bill |
posted 2009-May-29, 1pm AEST
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I read that it would cost around 1c as well – however my trial shows the cost to be around 4c per SMS for data on the casual plan – Bill Those were the initial guesstimates. However, given the way PT does SMS it actually requires a fair amount more data then expected. My phone reports it costs 1KB in sent and 4KB in downloaded data per SMS. So theretofore all in all it's 5KB (which given the actual SMS text is roughly 3% of that) is a lot. 5KB * 0.5c/kb should still only add up to 2.5c. |
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How do you get the casual data plan and where can I find information on it at the pennytel web site? Hi Cloneme, We have already activated your data request some time ago, I have replied your ticket with more details. At the moment if anybody would like to activate casual data, which is at the rate of ½c per KB, you can send an email to ptsim@pennytel.com and you will receive a ticket number. We will then process your request and inform you that it is complete. Once our website is updated (coming soon) you will be able to select this option if you desire. Regards, |
posted 2009-May-29, 2pm AEST
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Hi guys, you won't believe this: (The last one is a PTSIM question, so I think this is handled by a different department.) Pennytel your are really impressing me today! |
posted 2009-May-29, 2pm AEST
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Looks like we are both in the same boat. I lost my connection yesterday too. It was also ported from Vodafone (/Exetel) – last week actually. My loss of service was "gradual" – first I could not receive sms......then voice calls...... and later the sim says it cannot register. I have placed a support request ...... and Jocelyn is on the case..... so here's hoping it will be fixed today! H. |
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It takes 48 hours some times for a number to propagate from one carrier to another. |
posted 2009-May-29, 5pm AEST
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I'm posting this as a warning and also in the hope that someone can reassure me that I haven't talked my wife into switching to Pennysim and then caused her to "loose" her mobile number. She ported her number from Optus and was connected to Pennysim about 3 weeks ago and all was going well until she got this message: ----- Service: DATAPLAN1388 Please allow 3-5 business days for us to complete your request. You will be notified after your request is completed" ------ She definitely did not request Data so she emailed and asked that the Data plan not be activated. Today her phone stopped working. It comes up as "limited service" and when I call her I get "number disconnected" message. So she has no phone for the weekend and if the number has been disconnected I am very worried that she has lost her number (a really good number and held for many years). If any reps monitor WP over the weekend.. please tell me where we stand. If anyone else has had a similar experience.. what was the outcome? |
posted 2009-May-29, 6pm AEST
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Perhaps Optus are being difficult if it was an old Optus account....I have had silly things happen with my service over the years when I have ported from Optus to Virgin or back again. No you wont lose your number as it does not go into quarantine for 3 or 4 days Also they have been fiddling with ported numbers all week, my sms stopped working but is ok again. I suppose you have taken the sim out and put it back in ? also try changing phones. |
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hhmmm call log delay.... optus call log dump --> TPG is around 48 hours delay optus call log dump--> pennytel is around 7-9 days why the big difference??? |
posted 2009-May-29, 8pm AEST
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hhmmm call log delay.... optus call log dump --> TPG is around 48 hours delay optus call log dump--> pennytel is around 7-9 days why the big difference??? Their buzy people :) |
posted 2009-May-30, 12am AEST
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I suppose you have taken the sim out and put it back in ? also try changing phones. I was sure that the problem was that they had disconnected the number rather than just the Data service, but I did as you suggested and reinserted the sim card and she is connected again! Thanks Terryg .. I really appreciate your input. |
posted 2009-May-30, 6pm AEST
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That's ultimately the same issue I was having. I was thinking it's just me, but maybe it's the Pennytel server side that is not responding with Address Book synchronisation! Hi BearDoc, thanks. |
posted 2009-May-31, 4pm AEST
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Jocelyn, Regards, Chris |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 12pm AEST
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Has your issue with synch been resolved yet? Mine hasn't been. Not yet. I have been having emails back and forth with Mark from Pennytel. I strongly recommend you contact him at feedback@pennytel.com with the error messages you get – the more people have this problem, the more likely he'll find a fix! |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 12pm AEST
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I tried pt's online support.... and they have escalated it. Maybe I caused this trying to set up voicemail last night? Can you please whim me the ticekt number asap Jocelyn |
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I damaged by nokia phone and sent it for care centre and got a loan phone. After some hours a message came regarding data activation (oh..yah..I have pennysim with data ) I okayed it. One thing I dont understand is I get charged 10.50 often..does this have to do with this? often as within 13 days of being charged...i do sometimes make a direct call without calling smartdial number. I'll investigate this and post more of this but some how I feel something is not right. edit: I don't see how these 10.50 charges being reflected on my pennysim onlince a/c details..but I do see them in my bank details. |
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can anyone every get on to pennysim customer service on 1300 232 888? Always get an answer phone and the never call back. been trying since Friday. Didn't even bother leaving a message today as i figure if they have not returned the one from Friday there is no need to leave another one today |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 3pm AEST
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Not strictly a PTSIM question but ..... interested to know the Minimum Credit Before Recharge that others have. On my original account (setup way back for voip but now also used for my SIM) it is $5. On the account setup in April for my wife's SIM also $5, but on a third account setup in May for my daughter's SIM it's $10. Surely when PT have a credit card to grab money from when needed, there is no reason to have it any more than $5. I usually top up with Bpay and so keep a reasonable amount in each account, but having funds taken from your credit card if it drops below $10 seems a bit much. |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 3pm AEST
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I usually top up with Bpay and so keep a reasonable amount in each account, but having funds taken from your credit card if it drops below $10 seems a bit much. agreed. mine used to be a minimum of $5 but then they changed it to $10 :( |
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the $10 is to cover the cost of the monthly sim charge plus a little bit for calls, if you dont have over $10 in your account they will take it off your credit card. |
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My credit card has been verified Jocelyn, this is what I said. Can I please get you to whim me your Ticket Number if available Jocelyn |
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send many whims have two outstanding tickets dated 4-may-09 and 26-may-09. Is anything going to be done? Can you whim me your Ticket Number Jocelyn |
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the $10 is to cover the cost of the monthly sim charge plus a little bit for calls Isn't the monthly charge taken from your credit card – has been for all our SIMs if you dont have over $10 in your account they will take it off your credit card. So there will always be a minimum of $10 that is never recoverable. What happens when you want to move from PTSIM. Not planning to at this early stage, but if you did you would lose that $10. At the moment you need to set up a new account for each SIM if you want the mobile number to show through SmartDial – so in our case that's $30 down the drain if we move. And even if PT fix the number issue, it costs $20 to change accounts so you lose whichever way it goes I know I'm saving heaps on mobile calls, but knowing that it's going to cost me at least $30 somewhere down the track, kind of takes the edge off. |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 6pm AEST
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I have been told that now all the charges come out of your account, but I suppose if its only has $5 in it then they will deduct from your credit card. I prefer it to come out of my account as I B-Pay that |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 7pm AEST
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yea as of the last bill i got (2 weeks ago) it was deducted from my account (both PT and PTSim) |
posted 2009-Jun-1, 8pm AEST
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Not yet. I have been having emails back and forth with Mark from Pennytel. I strongly recommend you contact him at feedback@pennytel.com with the error messages you get – the more people have this problem, the more likely he'll find a fix! Done that BearDoc, |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 6am AEST
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I still haven't had my data application activated which I had applied for back around 15th April. Hi From our records we have replied you with the confirmation as below. Let me know if you are still having issues with Data? Posted on: 29 May 2009 02:47 PM Your request for 500M of data ($8.88) has already been processed an you should be able to use this on your mobile. If you are having any issues please let us know. Regards, Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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now cant even activate onto the network! Lost all calling capabilities now. Hi Czar, I believe you have been updated on the status of your issue. It seems that it actullay was not an eroor on our end but rather an issue from Vodafones end where they did not release your number to be ported but rather disrupted the service. Nonetheless, I have been advised that you number should be ported and finalised today Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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I lost my connection yesterday too. It was also ported from Vodafone (/Exetel) – last week actually. It seemed that the issue was that The service was cancelled through Vodafone so when the Porting was completed and being used on our PennyTel Newtork, Vodfone thought its should not be the case and suspended the service. So I believe now Loudon has asked Vodafone to reactivate the service and we have requested the Porting again for today Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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So where is the casual data plan then and how do you get it? The casual Data Plan is based on the Per meg rates specified on the Data Price list on our website. and it can be actiavted via emailing ptsim@pennytel.com Well well, can't see that posted anywhere and was not told by Jocelyn when she was accepting my application via email. This decision was made after you request and hence has also been updated on our T&C Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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till waiting to here back about WHY i was charged 1gb when asking for data to be enabled. We have already requested the Casual Data for you and teh amount charged has been refunded to yoru Credit card. It was an error by the Activating Team as the incorrect Data code was attached to your PennYSIM account. Nonethe less its been addressed. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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She definitely did not request Data so she emailed and asked that the Data plan not be activated. Today her phone stopped working. It comes up as "limited service" and when I call her I get "number disconnected" message. Can you please whim me the ticket number and I will follow it up for you asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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I have been told that now all the charges come out of your account, Yes this is correct. We first try to charge your Main PennyTel account and if there are not enough credit there then we charge you verified credit card and auto recharge your account as applicable Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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Is Penny tel a 3G providor or only GSM via Optus? |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 11am AEST
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I believe you have been updated on the status of your issue. It seems that it actullay was not an eroor on our end but rather an issue from Vodafones end where they did not release your number to be ported but rather disrupted the service. Nonetheless, I have been advised that you number should be ported and finalised today Jocelyn Yea, it looks like Vodafone where having some technical issues? Glad it sorted now. Thanks for keeping me informed. Its been a little painful waiting for 4 companies to organise themselves... but hopefully all worth it in the end. |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 12pm AEST
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Is Penny tel a 3G providor or only GSM via Optus? Both. You can add broadband Data to your account if you wish also. |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 12pm AEST
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Thanks for keeping me informed. Its been a little painful waiting for 4 companies to organise themselves... but hopefully all worth it in the end. We will try our best to ensure that your porting transition is doen successful and with as little hassle as possible. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 12pm AEST
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We first try to charge your Main PennyTel account |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 1pm AEST
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i got my nokia repaired with a complete software wipe/update, now the previous data settings has been wiped out and I cannot use the net/mail4exchange. Is there a way to manually set the data settings? Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 2pm AEST
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We first try to charge your Main PennyTel account and if there are not enough credit there then we charge you verified credit card and auto recharge your account as applicable Pleased this is now the case, but as you can charge the credit card if there are insufficient account funds, is there a need for a $10 minimum account balance – isn't $5 enough. For those of us that prefer Bpay, there will invariably be more than $10 in the account, but if it happens to slip below $10 before our Bpay transfer hits the account we are hit with an auto recharge on top of the $ we have transferred. Also, as I said earlier, if you decide to leave PT – unlikely at the moment, but who knows in the future – you lose the remaining $ in your accounts – a minimum $10 for each one you've setup for PTSIM. |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 2pm AEST
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-------------------------------------- She definitely did not request Data so she emailed and asked that the Data plan not be activated. Today her phone stopped working. It comes up as "limited service" and when I call her I get "number disconnected" message. Can you please whim me the ticket number and I will follow it up for you asap Jocelyn ------------------------------------------- Its sorted out now, Jocelyn I took the advice of someone replying on this thread and took out and put back in the sim card. We were back on line after this. I think service was disrupted when Data was disconnected and that it stays that way until a fresh connection with the network is made. That's my guess anyway. Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 2pm AEST
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Is Penny tel a 3G providor or only GSM via Optus? one question. i got my phone from US so the 3G frequency are obviously not the same as in AU unless i use Telstra's NextG network. so in PT, could i still use a data plan on GPRS/EDGE? i believe that GPRS/EDGE runs on GSM frequency hence slower and if i can use the GSM network to make calls, i could use GPRS and stuff for data. PT does not charge differently for data on 3G or GPRS, right? |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 2pm AEST
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Hi all, I can't find a thread with this particular question, so sorry if this is the wrong place.... I would like to know any workarounds to be able to dial via smartdial from my old mobile so that different numbers get charged to different accounts. For example 0289898500 is charged to one account and 0289898501 to another. Why? I have two accounts – 1 for professional and 1 for personal. Any thoughts appreciated. |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 3pm AEST
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I would like to know any workarounds to be able to dial via smartdial from my old mobile so that different numbers get charged to different accounts. For example 0289898500 is charged to one account and 0289898501 to another. dont think its possible. one number can only be assigned to one account |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 3pm AEST
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I would like to know any workarounds to be able to dial via smartdial from my old mobile so that different numbers get charged to different accounts. For example 0289898500 is charged to one account and 0289898501 to another. Since you are using different numbers for personal and work why not have the first 200 numbers for personal and the next 200 numbers for work. Write a simple script in Excel that creates a subtotal for each group. Just out of interest, how did you separate the calls before you used PennySIM? S. |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 6pm AEST
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i got my nokia repaired with a complete software wipe/update, now the previous data settings has been wiped out and I cannot use the net/mail4exchange. Is there a way to manually set the data settings? Thanks hi there, |
posted 2009-Jun-2, 8pm AEST
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where to get help? unable get dataplan to work on blackberry Note: internet works in opera, google apps, gmail, googlemaps etc but not in blackberry browser! p.s vodafone simcard, works just fine, optus does not. |
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i got my phone from US so the 3G frequency are obviously not the same as in AU unless i use Telstra's NextG network. I have the same problem. bought a N95 thru telstra and now 3G only available on Telstra NextG 850Mhz Telstra is also the only ones with EDGE. |
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Type "SET" into a sms and sent it to 738. You should receive Thanks it worked! |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 9am AEST
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where to get help? Please email ptsim@pennytel.com with the details of your account and issue Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 10am AEST
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I have a query regarding voice mail services and sms. Now, I have a DID number that I purchased. How will I link my did number so that it gets used for voicemail instead of optus and the process of retrieving messages? Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 10am AEST
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Please email ptsim@pennytel.com with the details of your account and issue Good info to know! |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 12pm AEST
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Has the data only sim cards and modems become available? |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 1pm AEST
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Has the data only sim cards and modems become available? Well today after about 3 or 4 weeks since my request email (I do admit I have not been chasing it up because I have been *waaaaaaaaaay* too busy) I got a call from PT. The guy I spoke to said he'll activate Data (500MB) and deactivate voice. I assume this means I'll have myself a Data Sim... It's supposed to be done it 2-3 days. |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 2pm AEST
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Has the data only sim cards and modems become available? Yes you can get this on special requests by ewmailing ptsim@pennytel.com Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 2pm AEST
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Yes you can get this on special requests by ewmailing ptsim@pennytel.com So I gather from the post above that if I have an existing Psim that can have the Voice disabled and data only attached? Can you confirm the plans available and the cost/ model of the modem. I know we corresponded about the modem before, but this may have changed. It was the E160 which does 900/2100 Yes G. |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 2pm AEST
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Jocelyn@PennyTel Any news on the Data activation? I whimmed you about, this morning. I have since tried the SIM in a iPhone and still no data. |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 2pm AEST
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I have a DID number that I purchased. How will I link my did number so that it gets used for voicemail instead of optus and the process of retrieving messages? Please ensure that VM is setip onyour DID and then forward your PennySIM calls to that DID on the occassion you would like the calls to go to Voice mail Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 3pm AEST
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any news on the cheaper ptsim sms's 10c ones ? |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 4pm AEST
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Waiting for feedback from OPTUS on our proposal to them Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 4pm AEST
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Thank you.... |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 6pm AEST
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any news on the cheaper ptsim sms's 10c ones ? I must have missed this – is there something in the wind about 10c SMS Just put in for casual data to run the Colby app, but will have 2nd thoughts if there's some chance of cheap SMS happening soon |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 6pm AEST
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no it may not happen for a while if at all.....I have been asking pt for a long time and Jocelyn said that pt are trying to get cheaper sms for us all but as usual Optus are being slow. I just use Virgin prepaid for sms....but I really love the pt sim for my calls and would like to have just one phone..... |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 6pm AEST
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but will have 2nd thoughts if there's some chance of cheap SMS happening soon PT are sending a proposal to Optus (I don't think anybody from PT actually mentioned 10c, just *cheaper* sms). But we all know how long Optus takes, so I would stick with your data plan for now :P edit: beaten :) |
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PT are sending a proposal to Optus (I don't think anybody from PT actually mentioned 10c, just *cheaper* sms). But we all know how long Optus takes, so I would stick with your data plan for now :P yes I just asked for 10c |
posted 2009-Jun-3, 6pm AEST
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I have a question regarding the Pennytel App on my nokia phone. I have a pennysim and when I want to make calls I have the option of calling smart dial number and making calls (pennytel), calling direct (optus) or using smart dial (pennytel app). Now, when using the smartdial number 89898800, I have to key in the destination number which is a bit of hassle. The only way I use the functionality is via fring, which allows my phone contacts to be imported and gives me an option of "SiP call or Cellular call", the sip obviously being thru pennytel. What I was expecting was the functionality of pennytel app to be as fring but it isn't, It doesn't import my phone contacts automatically to smartdial and then places a call, when I place call without warning it goes from optus, is this the case or am I doing something wrong? Also, if I use the optus YesInternet accesspoint is that covered under my data plan? |
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Now, when using the smartdial number 89898800, I have to key in the destination number which is a bit of hassle. try killer mobile's dialer i use it and it works like a charm. basically, u dial out as usual and this program will intercept the dial out number and call via smart dial. so pretty much the program is the middle man... seamless integration to my symbian S60 nokia phone |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 2pm AEST
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Hi guys, I ordered some settings at optuszoo, and now I have settings for the apn internet and for the apn yesinternet on my mobile. I have used the apn internet and found a lot of discussions which one is faster (actually it seems like there is no difference as far as I know). Does somebody have more information on this. Do I have to pay extra if I am using the yesinternet APN with PTSIM? Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 2pm AEST
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I have tried making smartdial lists from pennytel website,allocating numbers but they went haywire as per my post some weeks ago so currently I am not trying that. Hi lienshi, Send me a ticket number wih some of your details and we can get this sorted out for you. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 2pm AEST
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The only way I use the functionality is via fring, which allows my phone contacts to be imported and gives me an option of "SiP call or Cellular call", the sip obviously being thru pennytel. No – it's very important that if you are using PennySIM and SmartDial that you do NOT use "SIP" or "Internet Call" for your phone call. Although Pennytel is a VoIP company, your phone itself is not making a SIP/VoIP call via Pennytel – it actually makes a VOICE call to the Pennytel gateway (0289898800) and then Pennytel makes the onward call. SIP/Internet Call will use your data plan to make the call, and will likely be an inferior quality call, and use your data allowance! Make sure if you are on PennySIM and using SmartDial, you make a VOICE call to 0289898800 via the Application. |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 3pm AEST
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Do I have to pay extra if I am using the yesinternet APN with PTSIM? I hope not – this was the APN that my phone was configured to use! |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 3pm AEST
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I have been having emails back and forth with Mark from Pennytel. I strongly recommend you contact him at feedback@pennytel.com with the error messages you get – the more people have this problem, the more likely he'll find a fix! Hey BearDoc, |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 6pm AEST
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There might be some good news regarding the API issue. Got an email from Mark to say they have identified the problem and will be updating there systems next week. I got the same. Hope it's all fixed soon! |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 10pm AEST
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I haven't seen this discussed before, so I'll ask it. I send a lot of SMS now via the PennytelMobile application – but when I send them, I notice that some of them are marked "free" and some are marked "Premium". Why is that? They're often to the same number! |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 10pm AEST
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Jocelyn@PennyTel writes... I believe you have been updated on the status of your issue. It seems that it actullay was not an eroor on our end but rather an issue from Vodafones end where they did not release your number to be ported but rather disrupted the service. Nonetheless, I have been advised that you number should be ported and finalised today Jocelyn Sadly I still don't have my data back, even after updating my support ticket... I have not received any confirmation in reply. Can you please check for me. Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-4, 10pm AEST
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anyone has problem with pennytel? i couldnt ping sip.pennytel.com , incoming.pennytel.com , pennytel.com and my SPA 3000 failed to register to pennytel since 930. did PT has an emergency system upgrade and forgot to tell us again???? |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 10am AEST
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Mine is still registered, and I can ping all those addresses. |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 10am AEST
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Mine is still registered, and I can ping all those addresses. PT just came back online 5 mins ago for me :( after being down for an hr |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 10am AEST
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PT just came back online Yeah, quite a few outages since yesterday afternoon: |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 11am AEST
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Yeah, quite a few outages since yesterday afternoon: Does anybody know if these outages affect the pilot number and smart dial, or the ability to use those services? |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 12pm AEST
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if these outages affect the pilot number and smart dial I made 2 successful call using pilot number last night around 7.30PM WST |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 12pm AEST
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Is this all part of a new Pennytel? Made 2 Bpay transfers to my accounts yesterday to cover next round of PTSIM charges. Both payments appeared in accounts this morning (usually takes 2-3 days) and received emails from Pennytel Notifications confirming payments. |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 1pm AEST
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hmmm wow... that looks like loads of downtime from there though today was the only time i felt the downtime lol... i guess since most downtime is like 3 mins, i wouldnt really notice it :S |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 1pm AEST
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Anyone else having problems checking their statement I get this note.... There is an error processing your request. Please wait for a few minutes and try again. If this problem persists, try to logout and login again. One account is ok the other seems to be stuck and not having any call records is driving me nuts, it seems like the call record update is ever 3 weeks |
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There is an error processing your request. Please wait for a few minutes and try again. If this problem persists, try to logout and login again. Same. |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 8pm AEST
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Thanks....I thought it may have been my pc |
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There is an error processing your request. Please wait for a few minutes and try again. If this problem persists, try to logout and login again. me too |
posted 2009-Jun-5, 8pm AEST
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It must be an Optus thing as Virgin also have a problem, the link is supposed to show you prepaid rates. |
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Just out of interest, how did you separate the calls before you used PennySIM? With Excel sheets... As I didn't have every number in my phone book there is always the uncertainty about where a number belongs... Since you are using different numbers for personal and work why not have the first 200 numbers for personal and the next 200 numbers for work Might do that. thanks Edit. Ah, Now I remember why. I still haven't received an itemised bill from the PennySim (via the Statement->PennySim Details) after 12 days. Nor has any amount been debited. Is this only me? I called once and was told it would be there in 2-3 days and thereafter "instantly". Used the online support after 5 days and was told that it's every week. I am two days off of two weeks and nada. What is usual time before first items appear? |
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Is this only me? I called once and was told it would be there in 2-3 days and thereafter "instantly". Used the online support after 5 days and was told that it's every week. I am two days off of two weeks and nada. For me it was over 3 weeks then it got updated.....and now its over two, its the bit that lets pt down the accounts section is so hard to follow. |
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Dialer application for Ptsim some of you may find very useful MagiCall by Mobiion will do everthing you need and much more www.mobiion.com they have a trial version I am using it with ptsim you dont have to change any thing you just set up dialling rules. |
posted 2009-Jun-7, 5pm AEST
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MagiCall by Mobiion will do everthing you need and much more Thanks nirvana, just checked it out and you're right it does work quite nicely. I'm wondering about using filters to exclude PT DIDs and PennySIM numbers from having the prefix added. Can anyone tell me what commonalities all PennyTEL DID's have and the same thing for PennySIM numbers? That would allow me to create the filters correctly. |
posted 2009-Jun-7, 6pm AEST
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Dialer application for Ptsim some of you may find very useful I am in the process of trying out idialer http://supware.net/iDialer/ There is also online config tool that I used to setup the PT Pilot number with a pause, it seems to work most of the time (may just need fine tuning). |
posted 2009-Jun-7, 6pm AEST
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have you tried just using the pilot number nothing else ? |
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Hi these are the rules I use they seem to be able to handle most situations. I have my ptsim diverted to pennytel voice mail. the other rules are self explanatory Ihope it helps you 1 Operation Operation Operation Operation Operation |
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have you tried just using the pilot number nothing else ? The pilot number is the only number I need to try since that gives me access to my VoIP account. A few details Software all from http://supware.net iDialer Configuration Utility: http://supware.net/iDialer/config/ Greenbutton: iContacts: v0.94 To use the real keypad I open the phone and then press the End key, this dismisses the iDialler keypad and then the phone uses the Optus SIM to make the call rather than the PT Pilot number. |
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Hi these are the rules I use they seem to be able to handle most situations. I have my ptsim diverted to pennytel voice mail. the other rules are self explanatory Ihope it helps you Wow, that looks like some good software for LCR etc. I'll try it now. $31.4545 AUD is not too much given the amount we save on call costs and that you get updates for one year. |
posted 2009-Jun-7, 11pm AEST
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User #281410 103 posts
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I purchased killermobile's dialer, may I know the config/settings for use with Pennytel? |
posted 2009-Jun-8, 9am AEST
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User #222595 55 posts
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Any news on e-mail pack as Optus who charges 4.95 for a month with unlimited e-mail, Facebook etc access? |
posted 2009-Jun-8, 10am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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and sms packs....please |
posted 2009-Jun-8, 10am AEST
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User #223618 5 posts
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Hi Scrag, |
posted 2009-Jun-8, 7pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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When you ported your PT SIM to TPG I didn't port to TPG – I'm still with PT Sim. My wife was deciding to go with PT Sim but in the end we decided to go with TPG as it suited her calling patterns better. |
posted 2009-Jun-8, 8pm AEST
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I purchased killermobile's dialer, may I know the config/settings for use with Pennytel? under Settings tab: under Call-Through tab: thats pretty much it... Patterns – Patterns indicate the number or number patterns that will be routed by the application. Patterns are surrounded by the # Symbol. The * Symbol indicates a wild card. Example A: #001#002#003# (this pattern string will instruct the application to route the dialed numbers 001, 002, 003. Example B: #001*#002*#004*# (this pattern string will instruct the application to route ANY NUMBER beginning with 001, 002, 003) NOTE: Leaving the pattern field indicates to route ALL calls. Exclude Patterns – Exclude patterns are inputted exactly like the Patterns above. They indicate what calls NOT to route. This can be a subset of a number inputted as a pattern, or if the patterns field is empty this will indicate what numbers or number patterns NOT to route |
posted 2009-Jun-9, 4pm AEST
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User #26557 36 posts
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I just got an email from pennysim support telling me : Please be inform that there is no multiple call features for Penny SIM, thanks! What I want is to call two people at the same time from my phone and I think the answer is BS. Anyone with correct information here? |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 8am AEST
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Sadly I still don't have my data back, even after updating my support ticket... I have not received any confirmation in reply. Can you please check for me. Can you please whim me your Ticket number asap |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 9am AEST
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Anyone with correct information here? Dear Ali, I think I have come across your ticket and just to make things clearer here, I would like to reconfirm that you are actually refering to the CONFERENCING feature on PennySIM. Let me know if you any clarification Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 9am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Great to see the reduction in posts with respect to PennySim. We would have to thank Jocelyn and Jim for their great efforts here and listening to peoples issues, complaints and improvements or whatever else there may be. Looks like things are well on track for the Pennytel team – well done! The days of having to troll through a 50 page thread (from just two weeks) is finally over.... |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 9am AEST
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User #233832 189 posts
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Looks like things are well on track for the Pennytel team – well done! Jim, Jocelyn I cannot see my PTSIM voice/data logs anymore: "There is an error processing your request. Please wait for a few minutes and try again. If this problem persists, try to logout and login again." This has been happening for at least 5 days...! |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 10am AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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Exclude Patterns: #04660*# (pretty much the exclude list. i will show u the syntax later) You should also include 000 on the list... just in case. |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 11am AEST
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the SIM does not have the conferencing service enabled Yes, I want it enabled please. |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 12pm AEST
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User #103533 236 posts
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I cannot see my PTSIM voice/data logs anymore: No trouble with my account – Bill |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 12pm AEST
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User #26557 36 posts
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PennyTel guys: |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 1pm AEST
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User #50112 930 posts
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Jim, Jocelyn I cannot see my PTSIM voice/data logs anymore: Same here. No PennySIM call details at all. S. |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 1pm AEST
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"There is an error processing your request. Please wait for a few minutes and try again. If this problem persists, try to logout and login again." This has been happening for at least 5 days...! Can you please let us know PennyTel account details Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 2pm AEST
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the buy a penny sim page, has no phone numbers in the drop down anymore. you are loosing business. fix it fast.. Will get this fixed with urgency Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 2pm AEST
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Same here. No PennySIM call details at all. S. Can you please try again now Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 2pm AEST
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User #50112 930 posts
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Can you please try again now All working now. Thanks for that. S. |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 3pm AEST
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unfortunatley the SIM does not have the conferencing service enabled Guys, |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 3pm AEST
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posted 2009-Jun-10, 3pm AEST
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can I ever have conferencing on my penny sim? if not, why? Hi, Currently, its not supported by Optus with the deal we have with them Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 4pm AEST
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Jocelyn Yep fixed...thx Jocelyn. No new data tho :( |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 6pm AEST
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No new data tho :( Hopefully soon :-) Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-10, 8pm AEST
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No new data tho :( Hopefully soon :-) Can you post this here, when new data from optus arrives? TA! |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 8am AEST
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Will try to do my best Jocelyn |
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User #96125 513 posts
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I am having problems with outgoing volume using smartdial the last few calls I have made the other party is not hearing me very well. |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 9am AEST
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User #20115 4347 posts
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I am having problems buying a SIM, I no get the error If this problem persists then please contact us via email or by phone on +61288989878/+61386835801. We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thankyou, PennyTel Anyone else have this problem ? edit: Works now, Concurrency perhaps? |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 10am AEST
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I am having problems with outgoing volume using smartdial the last few calls I have made the other party is not hearing me very well. Can you please provide me with ypur PennySIM Number and some sample numbers you have dialled and I will get that loo9ked at asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 10am AEST
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I am having problems buying a SIM, I no get the error Anyone else have this problem ? Can you please provide me wioth your contact details together with your PennyTel Account and I will get that looked at asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 10am AEST
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About 8 weeks ago before I went away on holidays I had added a couple of extra phone numbers to my Pennytel address book and got the corresponding Smart Dial numbers and entered them into my Pennysim mobile phone address book. A couple of weeks ago when I checked my Pennytel Smart Dial numbers at Pennytel web site I found that some of my numbers had somehow been duplicated so I deleted the duplicated numbers. Now when I ring a Smart Dial number from my mobile I get the wrong number. Just checked this post /forum-replies.cfm?t=1203682 and seems to have same problem. I also resyncronized my PT mobile application so maybe that screwed up the Smart Dial numbers. Cloneme |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 2pm AEST
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I have just received my Ported number pennysim and tried to activate on web but doesn't recognise it. Porting date is 15th June. Should I wait till 16th before I activate the sim? |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 3pm AEST
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I have just received my Ported number pennysim and tried to activate on web but doesn't recognise it. Porting date is 15th June. Should I wait till 16th before I activate the sim? Hi Jaliyan, You do not need to activate your PennySIM if you are porting. If your porting date is on the 15th make sure you have your PennySIM with you as you will need to swap your SIM card once you lose network coverage with your existing SIM. You will be able to make calls straight away. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 4pm AEST
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You do not need to activate your PennySIM if you are porting. Hi Jim, |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 5pm AEST
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I had a port of my existing number today and the phone is working but no data – cant browse. Is there anything else that needs to be done to get the data going ? Hi Smbtech, Send us an email with some account details to check if your data is active yet, normally data would be activated after the port, not at the same time. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 5pm AEST
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User #199255 109 posts
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Hi I have problem adding smartdial number on Pennytel website. It said there is error adding number. Anyone have same problem? Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 10pm AEST
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Send us an email with some account details to check if your data is active yet, normally data would be activated after the port, not at the same time. Thanks Jim, turned the phone off and on and data then worked. Sorry for troubling you. |
posted 2009-Jun-11, 11pm AEST
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I'm pleased to say that Mark@Pennytel has resolved this issue – Pennytel syncs perfectly now. Thank you, Mark! |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 3am AEST
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I'm pleased to say that Mark@Pennytel has resolved this issue – Pennytel syncs perfectly now. Thank you, Mark! +1 |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 7am AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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Hey, I (apparently) now have a data only sim, can anybody tell me the following: APN |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 7am AEST
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APN = internet, Username & Password = "" , blank, nothing, nada (not the words, the meaning of the words) |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 8am AEST
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Yeah, i did try that. But I get an 'the connection was terminated by the remote computer' error. I'm using a e270 modem and 'mobile partner' as the software. |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 8am AEST
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interesting... when i set the apn to dynamic it worked! |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 8am AEST
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User #127027 130 posts
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Hi Pennytel, My order number is AE5AD27D80 and Jocelyn put me on the Promo list. I was invoiced $8.80 for the first Pennysim month in the April invoice (#20090400009), but have received no credit back. Can you have this amended please? Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 9am AEST
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I have problem adding smartdial number on Pennytel website. It said there is error adding number. Hi mamsong, There should not be any issues, can you please send us an email with your details and whim me the ticket number so we can investigate? Thanks. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 1pm AEST
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My order number is AE5AD27D80 and Jocelyn put me on the Promo list. I was invoiced $8.80 for the first Pennysim month in the April invoice (#20090400009), but have received no credit back. Can you have this amended please? Hi Prof Chaos, Yes you are on the promo list but you do get charged the monthly fee then it is refunded back to you at the end of your billing cycle. As your billing cycle has not finished for this month you have not been refunded yet. If you want to check when your billing cycle is, just log into your account and click on the 'Profile' tab. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 1pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Jocelyn or Jim, Would it be at all possible to have a Pilot Number without the voice prompt "Please enter the number you wish to dial" for SmartDial? I am using the KillerMobile app and it's "annoying" having to listen to this voice prompt all the time. Perhaps it can be replaced with a simple "beep" or another access number without the prompt. This feature would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 2pm AEST
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User #199255 109 posts
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Hi Jim Just whim to you. Thanks Kind regards |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 2pm AEST
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User #15974 392 posts
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Would it be at all possible to have a Pilot Number without the voice prompt "Please enter the number you wish to dial" for SmartDial? I am using the KillerMobile app and it's "annoying" having to listen to this voice prompt all the time. Perhaps it can be replaced with a simple "beep" or another access number without the prompt. Totally agree with you. Hey does the # work fo you to make it stop listening for more digits and dial right away? I was told it should work but does nto for me. There is still a long wait after i dial the number in. Chris |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 3pm AEST
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Hey pennytel staff... Is it possible to split data between two sim cards yet? Thanks! |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 3pm AEST
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User #222595 55 posts
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Thank you Jim. I will follow the instruction. |
posted 2009-Jun-12, 4pm AEST
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Yes you are on the promo list but you do get charged the monthly fee then it is refunded back to you at the end of your billing cycle. As your billing cycle has not finished for this month you have not been refunded yet. Hi Jim, thanks for the reply. I understand the refund is at the end of the monthly billing cycle. That is why I am writing – you will be able to see my credit card was charged $8.80 for the PennySIM on April the 6th, and there still has been no credit to the Pennytel account over two months later. Can you have another look? Regards |
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I am having issues with SMARTDIAL. Using the PT application and running WM5 on a PPC phone. The application syncs with PT, and the address book is updated, I can send SMS from within the application, however I can no longer make 'smartdial' calls. I can click on smartdial and select a number from the PT addressbook but there is no where under the 'Action' button to make the call. It just seems like the 'call' button has gone... |
posted 2009-Jun-13, 4pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Pennysim details: NO USAGE UPDATES YET!!! What the hell is going on there – it's the only thing I complain about. In this day and age usage data should be available ASAP. No excuses. THIS IS PATHETIC AND A JOKE!!! |
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Pennysim details: NO USAGE UPDATES YET!!! While I'm not shouting about it, I agree – usage details not available since 24th May is getting a little long – that's three weeks with no updates. I've got no idea how much data I've used since it was turned on a couple of weeks ago. |
posted 2009-Jun-13, 10pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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yes it seems so silly, in fact it is one of the things that put me off pt, also the expensive sms....I mean if Virgin can have up to date phone records and cheap sms why can't pt ? |
posted 2009-Jun-14, 9am AEST
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I agree – usage details not available since 24th May is getting a little long The real question is... can they charge you excess usage data if you don't know what your usage is... I mean to say the least it seems unfair that you get charged if you go over and you had no idea. At worst it's possibly a breach of some law. |
posted 2009-Jun-14, 1pm AEST
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The real question is... can they charge you excess usage data if you don't know what your usage is... I mean to say the least it seems unfair that you get charged if you go over and you had no idea. At worst it's possibly a breach of some law. I doubt you would be able to argue that you weren't up for usage charges if you went over by a modest amount. But if your usage amounted to hundreds or thousands in excess charges, you would have a case (this has been dealt with by the TIO against Telstra – they need to tell you if you're going WAY over your limit). |
posted 2009-Jun-14, 9pm AEST
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Can you have another look? Can you please whim us your ticket number Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 9am AEST
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Pennysim details: NO USAGE UPDATES YET!!! Hi we are getting this issue addressed with high priorty Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 10am AEST
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high priorty Great, thanks Jocelyn. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 10am AEST
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User #237788 230 posts
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The thing what i was worried the most finally happened today. My wife phone suddenly stopped working giving error can't register the SIM. So I asked her to call up PT helpline number and as usual no response no one even picked up the phone. I really hate every time if you have an issue you have to come here to WP to get it resolved. And things like this is serious can't have phone not working and not in a position to get to helpdesk to resolve it. This is just adding up to the restrictions and limitation to users of PTSim. I am still pissed off with PT stopping the ability to pass on my PTSim as a callerID as it use to work before and rather now I have to use my verified number. Its getting more and more worse and more and more trouble to keep going with this service. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 4pm AEST
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This is just adding up to the restrictions and limitation to users of PTSim. I am still pissed off with PT stopping the ability to pass on my PTSim as a callerID as it use to work before and rather now I have to use my verified number. I just wrote to support@pennytel.com about this – it was turned off because some people wrote to support and asked for this functionality to be disabled. Maybe if enough people write, this functionality can be turned on again. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 4pm AEST
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it was turned off because some people wrote to support and asked for this functionality to be disabled. Yeah I asked PT some time back saying that PTSim primary is mobile and hence we should be able to send out mobile number as Caller ID and for those who don't want that to happen they can turn it off why should we suffer. Turning off from PT website was an option always there and they should have used it rather than blindly turning off for every one. Honestly I dont' answer calls that come to me as private most of the time. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 4pm AEST
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Yes, add me to the list. If I'm making a call from my Pennysim I want my mobile CID to be displayed and not my home number. I have raised this several times too, going back to when Pennysim was even first talked about – nothing as yet! This should be implemented/re-implemented. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 5pm AEST
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The thing what i was worried the most finally happened today. My wife phone suddenly stopped working giving error can't register the SIM. I just tried calling my wife mobile and it directly goes to voicemail of virginmobile which use to be my previous provider. How in the world the currently ported to PTSim goes back to Virginmobile on its own. Can PT answer this to me please? |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 5pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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its an Optus fault not pt's.... |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 6pm AEST
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My wife phone suddenly stopped working giving error can't register the SIM. I had a similar thing happening to my phone last Sunday. First when I tried the Internet I got a message "packet data not available", then half an hour later the message "can't register the SIM". I just took my SIM out and put it back after which it started working again. I assumed it was a problem with my phone. Has anyone else experienced this problem? its an Optus fault not pt's.... I don't agree, I don't have anything to do with Optus, Pennytel is my provider. Should Optus screw up, my complaint would go to Pennytel and I wouldn't accept PT blaming it on Optus. PT is responsible for agreed service levels and for chasing Optus up if needed. |
posted 2009-Jun-15, 8pm AEST
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I don't agree, I don't have anything to do with Optus, Pennytel is my provider. Should Optus screw up, my complaint would go to Pennytel and I wouldn't accept PT blaming it on Optus. PT is responsible for agreed service levels and for chasing Optus up if needed. I agree, but Optus are providing the service for your phone, pt is just a reseller of that service. Like you I have had my phone cut off (3 times now), I also removed the sim and put it back in and all was ok....I was with Optus (15 years) so perhaps someone is playing silly games. |
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User #183640 61 posts
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Yes, add me to the list. If I'm making a call from my Pennysim I want my mobile CID to be displayed and not my home number. This should be implemented/re-implemented. Agreed – I want this happening again too |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 7am AEST
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Hi we are getting this issue addressed with high priorty Jocelyn New ptsim voice/data logs are up! w000t! |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 8am AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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New ptsim voice/data logs are up! Up until what date are the new logs available? |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 9am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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mine is 29.05.09 nothing for June |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 9am AEST
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I agree, but Optus are providing the service for your phone, pt is just a reseller of that service. I don't care if Optus is providing the service but PT is with whom I have contract if they don't get my phone up and running by today afternoon they going to pay heavy penelty for that as I am speaking to Ombudsmen. Yesterday afternoon when i treid calling my wife mobile it was going to voicemail of previous provider(Virginmobile) than at night I thought of putting back in Virgin SIM and WOW it was able to register the SIM but I can't receive any calls on that and now instead of voicemail I get Optus advices that the number you are dialing have been disconnected. PT I need my number re-activated. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 10am AEST
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PT is with whom I have contract and they are the ones who should be supplying you with the support. I had a similar thing happen when I went from Optus -> Telstra (for a land line) it was actually Optus who stuffed up because they didn't set the pointers in the system for the phone number to point to 'telstra' network. However you went from Virgin (optus) --> PT (optus) so I have NFI how that could be stuffed up. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 11am AEST
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Also could I ask of the PT staff. 1) Can we split data across multiple sim cards yet? |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 11am AEST
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I don't care if Optus is providing the service but PT is with whom I have contract if they don't get my phone up and running by today afternoon they going to pay heavy penelty for that as I am speaking to Ombudsmen. You have complained on the forum, you have gone to the Ombudsmen. Have you tried to contact our support? Just a suggestion but you can always whim us your ticket number. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 12pm AEST
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Also could I ask of the PT staff. Hi Pro-logic, All very good questions, I will forward your questions and try to get an update. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 12pm AEST
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Hi The update is still in progress Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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I think some things have to be set to a default setting otherwise everyone will want something different and at this early stage of the pt sim it must be so hard for them, please try talking (e-mailing) one support person and work with them to get your problem fixed. I am really happy with our sim's they work really wellm the smart dial is so good, it shows my mobile number and its very cheap except for the sms what more do you want.... Edit.....yes cheaper sms's Please pt |
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You have complained on the forum, you have gone to the Ombudsmen. Have you tried to contact our support? Just a suggestion but you can always whim us your ticket number. Regards, Hi Jim Yes I tried contacting PT Support and no way for my mobile dead I am going to send out an email to support and than wait. That's not what you say support. BTW when you can't have people answer the support line than why have that number in first place advertised on your website. Do you want me to goto ACCC as well for false advertisement? |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 12pm AEST
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Hi I'm overseas now.I don't have PTSIM roaming. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 1pm AEST
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Hi Jim Yes I tried contacting PT Support and no way for my mobile dead I am going to send out an email to support and than wait. That's not what you say support. Perhaps if you tried writing a clear and concise email to pennytel support you would have got your problem solved by now. Cloneme |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 1pm AEST
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login to pennytel, its call forwarding is under services |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 1pm AEST
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Perhaps if you tried writing a clear and concise email to pennytel support you would have got your problem solved by now. Thats what i call it as CRAP I have even whim JIm the mobile number that have gone offline and he is telling me to create a ticket. For a starter for small issues going to website and creating a ticket is fine. For this type of incidents where you have totally lost your service. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 1pm AEST
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Well well well!!!!! PTSim if they are claiming to be a service provider from the earlier post. I was just lucky enough to speak to a support guy who insisted me on sending email and on my push he finally passed the phone to PTSim support. Thanks to that guy for passing the phone it should have just happened straight off. PT question for you guys email support is fine for issues like callerID not working or account balance inquiry for any other issues. My ability to call out and receive call on my mobile number is a v.v.basic service which is expected from a SERVICE PROVIDER and if for any reason that service fails I should be able to get 24*7 support on that which is regardless of whether you are VSP or actual Tier1 carrier. And what i found out recently is that you guys dont have that. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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when you pay peanuts you get monkeys |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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not many carriers have 24-7 now I know Optus don't |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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How can I forward all calls to my PT DID Whilst abroad? Please email ptsim with the details and we shall contact Optus for your and ensure that the complete forwarding to the specified number is processed Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Hi The updates are a little better but still WAY OUT OF DATE! My last update was up to the 25/05/09 and now have just gone to the 29/05/09. Not really good enough having to wait half a month for 4 days to be updated. Very poor quality of service. As I have said previously, in this day and age and the technology available this is absolutely ridiculous! Jocelyn, you are going to have to do some serious talking to Optus about this deficiency. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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["For a starter for small issues going to website and creating a ticket is fine. For this type of incidents where you have totally lost your service." Please be advised that I have called up Optus and they have looked into the issue for us and made some changes on their end for the respective number. Therefore, can we ask you to please insert the SIM in your phone if not already inserted and then please switch it on. If this does not address your issue then please feel free to whim me Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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Therefore, can we ask you to please insert the SIM in your phone if not already inserted and then please switch it on. Thanks Jocelyn. Its all fixed didnt took you long to fix it. Just wish the guys at 1300xxx number of PT acts same as you will save lots of trouble. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 2pm AEST
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My ability to call out and receive call on my mobile number is a v.v.basic service which is expected from a SERVICE PROVIDER and if for any reason that service fails I should be able to get 24*7 support on that which is regardless of whether you are VSP or actual Tier1 carrier. There is no service guarantee on mobile phones.... either from the carrier or from the reseller!!!! The ACMA only requires that for landline services – PSTN!!! So don't expect a mobile phone fault to be rectified quickly by PT, Optus or any other carrier..... and even PSTN faults the carrier is allowed 2 working days to fix the fault. I have had a problem with a mobile phone (service direct from a carrier) where calls couldn't be received for over a week..... So if high availability/reliability using a phone is essential – use the PSTN!! There is no protection in place for mobile phone users.... or VoIP..... and when you run VoIP from a mobile phone..... yet another layer adding to the unreliability of the service! You get the service level you pay for..... and if paying very little for the service – don't expect instant fault rectification – from ANY provider – it just isn't going to happen! EDIT..... and if it does (as it appears to have).... you are very, very lucky |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 3pm AEST
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Jocelyn, you are going to have to do some serious talking to Optus about this deficiency. please be advised that our CEO is in a meeting with Optus in order to address this issue permanently Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 3pm AEST
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User #18022 362 posts
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how about some extra features... being able to move credit between pennytel accounts |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 3pm AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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please be advised that our CEO is in a meeting with Optus in order to address this issue permanently That's good news. Hopefully this will allow PT to have the same level of access to logs as a normal optus customer. (I assume optus has a online portal for mobile users where they can check their call history, telstra has one) |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 4pm AEST
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User #282846 506 posts
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how about some extra features... being able to move credit between pennytel accounts i would prefer that existing "bugs" be ironed out first before adding new features. tons of feature but none of them works properly would be highly undesirable |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 4pm AEST
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By Popular Demand – PennySIM SMS Plan is Here!!! Dear Valued Customer, Please be advised that based on all the feedback we have been getting from our valuable customers, we would like to take advise you that as of 1st of July 09, all PennySIM Advertised Rates will be GST inclusive and changes will be automatically applied to the your repective accounts based on its billing cycle. Therefore, the Charges for our PennySIM Service will be made even cheaper then what they currently are... !!! You can now get a PennySIM service for only $7.27ex gst or for only $8 inclusive of GST!!! And on top of that, by popular request, we are going soon introduce a 3rd plan for all our customer who love to send SMSes to their loved ones 24/7... The SMS plan will allow you to :
This will be in addition to current offers we already offer for the PennySIM Service:
All this for just $13.88 per month (inclusive of GST). So start saving today!! Thank you for choosing PennyTel. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 5pm AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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# Send FREE SMS between the PennySIM Services 24 hours, 7days a week and Nice! All this for just $13.88 per month So just to clarify to get the PT Sim Voice Service and 8c SMS you have to pay ? Also, I assume this is the outcome of the CEO's meeting, which hopefully also gave better access to optus usage logs! |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 5pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Send FREE SMS between the PennySIM Services 24 hours, 7days a week and Hi p.t does this mean from the web or your phone ? because it states further down the page.....I think it means your phone can you clarify please. $0.25 Per National SMS A big thank you its excellent news....love my pt sim Terry |
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i think what she said is that there would be a new plan with cheaper SMS eg: correct me if i m wrong |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 5pm AEST
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Plan A: current $8.00 (GST included) This is how I interpreted it, however the way it's written it can be a little bit confusing. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 5pm AEST
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wow 8c sms that is so good I won't need to have 2 phones anymore.....yipeeeeee |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 5pm AEST
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i think what she said is that there would be a new plan with cheaper SMS eg: correct me if i m wrong So, effectively, there is a new plan that costs $5.88 more than the standard $8 plan, for the benefit of cheaper SMS. You are right, that's how it reads on their announcement email. |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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yes but its got 25c sms in this part of the statement |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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So just to clarify to get the PT Sim Voice Service and 8c SMS you have to pay If you only wanted to get the PT SIM Voice Service and 8cents SMS you only have to pay $13.88/month (inc GST) plus your PennyTel Voip plan cost if applicable. So if you have a PennySIM with a Freedom Plan. Your monthly cost to have the PennyTel $13.88 SMS plan will be in total $5 +$13.88(inc GST). Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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Hi p.t does this mean from the web or your phone ? because it states further down the page.....I think it means your phone can you clarify please. thanks for highlighting that for me Terryg,. I have edited my post. It actually means directly from your Mobile phone with PennySIM in it. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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Plan A: current $8.00 (GST included) this is 100% Correct Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 6pm AEST
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[19607529 Jocelyn@PennyTel writes... Thanks for the update. New SMS plan seems great and long awaited for many users. Terryg will be happy! |
posted 2009-Jun-16, 7pm AEST
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User #183640 61 posts
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Hi Jocelyn, One more request: for those of us who have a few PT SIMS attached to one account... is it possible to get printouts or downloads of the calls/sms/data for each phone available... We get it for the PT voip line – surely calls from the SIMS can be accessed for download just like that instead of only onscreen. (It will just make life easier monitoring usage on each phone. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 7am AEST
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User #123202 613 posts
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Woah, they sure love making something so simple so confusing to explain. From what i get out of this is that.. the PennySim service is now $8 and if you pay an extra $5.88 you get the ability to send SMS's at 8c via the GSM gateway without the need of a pennytel app ? I was hoping they'd incorporate this into their existing PennySim service free of charge. ie/ drop the 25c sms to 8c. Currently i use my Pennysim service + datapack. For me to send an sms i use an app on my phone to send sms using data pack for 5c. I'm not sure its that attractive to users like me, where its going to cost me an extra $5.88 to pay an extra 3c per sms with the convenience to use the sms gateway rather than via a java app and datapack service. I guess the advantage is, they can send sms to other pennysims for free. Although it seems like a cheap plan for those who don't use the datapacks on their phone. Dense |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 8am AEST
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Deleted my comments.....sorry |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 8am AEST
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One more request: for those of us who have a few PT SIMS attached to one account... is it possible to get printouts or downloads of the calls/sms/data for each phone available... Hi Yes we are working towards getting this addressed Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 9am AEST
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Woah, they sure love making something so simple so confusing to explain. From what i get out of this is that.. the PennySim service is now $8 and if you pay an extra $5.88 you get the ability to send SMS's at 8c via the GSM gateway without the need of a pennytel app ? Honestly, We try to keep our explainations as clear as possible but sometimes it may come across as confusing to some. We tried to announce it as a third plan because that is what it is. We did not want to have peopel confused where they would have through that they could just select the option on their current PennySIM Service and only be charged the extra $5.88. We need to be clear that if people say upgrade to this plan then on their statement it will indicate a charge of $13.88 rather than $8 and then $5.88. This plan is simply designed for people who do not currently use PennyTel mobile Application to send SMS on their PennySIM as that would definitely be the cheaper option. Or For people who do not wish to get Data to send SMS. This will give them the cheaper and much more convenient option of sending SMS directly from their SIM. Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 10am AEST
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User #204634 96 posts
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I always thought you could access calls/data/sms records from each individual sim. The ones made on the Optus network at least. In accounts you click on Penny Sim Details and select the mobile number you want to view calls for. If your referring to a breakdown of charges accessed via the voip service from each individual PennySim I think they would be hard pressed to be able to do that. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 10am AEST
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the ones made on the Optus network at least. In accounts you click on Penny Sim Details and select the mobile number you want to view calls for. Yes this is correct and we will try to get the the download buttin enabled on it Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 11am AEST
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User #18022 362 posts
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Pennytel, so whats the process for existing pennysim users who want to move to the sms plan? email ptsim support? |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 11am AEST
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I'm not sure its that attractive to users like me, ... You already pay extra for the data plan to (also) send cheap SMS, be happy, you just don't need that plan! (You do not have to buy everything PT offers you. ;-) |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 11am AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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You already pay extra for the data plan There are other shortcomings of the online SMS system If all 4 of the above were fixed, I would totally agree that the 8c SMS is not worth in compared to the 5c sms. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 12pm AEST
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User #169734 125 posts
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but you are right this plan in mainly for users, who do not have a data plan ... or kids, sending 40.000 SMS per month!) I think it really just comes down to how many SMS you send a month. Working on the basis of 8c-10c per SMS (not PT – reliability a problem) and 1c-2c for data you will need to send more than 50 a month to make it worthwhile. Might be OK for kids but not worth it for me ;) (Data cost based on others comments – data only just activated and still waiting for 1st bill to check costs) |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 12pm AEST
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Pennytel, so whats the process for existing pennysim users who want to move to the sms plan? email ptsim support? Please note that this plan will be available by the 1st week of July and once it is released, all changes can be done through the PennyTel Website or Portal Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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p.t can we have something like this from Optus ? |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 12pm AEST
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User #18022 362 posts
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Pennytel, Please change it so when I call through smartdial is shows my mobile number... i have multiple friends and family who refuse to answer private calls on their mobiles, also when u call someone who doesn't have voice mail they dont know you called.. so u have to keep calling them back. Please fix this as a priority, it is a must have feature to any mobile service!! |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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Please change it so when I call through smartdial is shows my mobile number You need to set that in your account. profile -> call features -> show my caller ID. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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1st week of July and once it is released, all changes can be done through the PennyTel Website or Portal That sounds very exciting – especially if we will be able to change all of our PSIMplans there? such as data plans, etc? |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #183640 61 posts
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I always thought you could access calls/data/sms records from each individual sim. The ones made on the Optus network at least. In accounts you click on Penny Sim Details and select the mobile number you want to view calls for. yes thanks Kyal, I can see the individual calls for each SIM (7 day or 30 day ect), but what I was hoping for was a way to itemize each PTSIM's calls/sms/data either as an invoice or a call list that could be printed out so that each household member can see exactly where there money is going and keep printed records of expenses. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #199255 109 posts
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You need to set that in your account. profile -> call features -> show my caller ID. Smacko got more than one PennySIM in his Penny Account ! So all PennySIM have the same Caller ID. But when receiver not answer the call with Private number is something I can't say. What you got to lose when answer the private number ??? |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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go into your account setting under profile you can change the default display mobile setting and you can pick what mobile is the default, yes its a pain but a work round....I hope. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 1pm AEST
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User #283996 66 posts
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There are other shortcomings of the online SMS system Hi Jocelyn, can you take care of this list? Bye, bye. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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you can see what you have sent....its under sent sms click on the thing you can read your message. For character coding go into tools in IE and general at the bottom you can adjust it. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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Smacko got more than one PennySIM in his Penny Account ! So all PennySIM have the same Caller ID Well you could get it to display a DID number, then have that DID number ring all of the attached PennySIMs if the person calls back on it. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #261216 582 posts
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you can see what you have sent....its under sent sms click on the thing you can read your message. They were referring to the fact that you can't see it on your phone. For character coding go into tools in IE and general at the bottom you can adjust it. And the character *en*coding in your browser has absolutely NO effect on the character encoding of the SMS message sent by PT. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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sorry misunderstood..... as for p.t's characters surly this would be set by the phone and not p.t as it comes out fine on all our phones. if its more than 160 long then it has to be 2 sms, can it be done via computer I don't thinks so who else has it...sending 2 sms one after another |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #210322 1967 posts
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can you take care of this list? I will forward it to the staff responsible Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 2pm AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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I will forward it to the staff responsible 1. The issue with encoding are things like sending "£" and "€" |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 3pm AEST
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3. That was more of a point that if you use the PT application the messages don't end up in your standard SMS sent folder as if you were using your phones inbulit SMS application. There are only a few ways this could be circumvented:
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posted 2009-Jun-17, 3pm AEST
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User #209212 673 posts
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# The PT App takes over the standard SMS application (a la BiteSMS/ChompSMS – this would be my preferred mechanism. This is not possible without PT going down the JB path |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 3pm AEST
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This is not possible without PT going down the JB path Not everyone is using an iPhone. |
posted 2009-Jun-17, 4pm AEST
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sorry no point in going on about things I can't change, so I edited my post. |
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how should I enable tethering with my iPhone? there is a message saying ask OPTUS to enable it for your account... |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 7am AEST
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User #15974 392 posts
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2. It's possible to send long SMSes it's call 'SMS concatenation' some providers like clickatell manage to do it right. pennytel can't do that as their upstream provider does not support it |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 8am AEST
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pennytel can't do that as their upstream provider does not support it Well, maybe depending on the volume of SMSes they send they can either |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 11am AEST
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Well, maybe depending on the volume of SMSes they send they can either Totally agree. It is a pain but it does not seem that they have a solution at the min. The best way i have come up to get around this for my app is to place a (1/3) etc at he start of all sms that need to be broken up. It is not hte best and yes it uses extra characters but what other option is there at the min. |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 12pm AEST
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User #24414 790 posts
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I have added my mobile number in the My Numbers section of my PennyTel account and entered the number in the PennyTel app, but Smartdial icon is still disabled and when I try it, it says Smartdial is not setup. Is there something I'm missing? Oh and yes I have assigned my contacts with Smartdial numbers. |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 2pm AEST
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I have added my mobile number in the My Numbers section of my PennyTel account and entered the number in the PennyTel app, but Smartdial icon is still disabled and when I try it, it says Smartdial is not setup. Hi BiKuTa, There are 2 ways to set up smart dial, looks like you have done half of both ways. You can either assign your contacts with the smartdial numbers OR sync your contacts from the PennyTel app. Please do not do both methods as smartdial will get all mixed up.... Since you have already assigned contacts in the web portal all you have to do now is call the smartdial number that is assigned to that contact and your contacts actual number will ring. You don't have to use the PennyTel app to make a call. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 4pm AEST
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Sorry if this is a silly question but.. How do I order a new PSim service that is a port request? I sent an email with the request to support@pennytel.com but I got a reply saying that it has to be done through their webiste. As far as I can see, the web site only allows you to order one if you are setting up a new pTel account, I allready have a pTel account and I want the new service associated with my existing pTel account. Thanks for your help. |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 10pm AEST
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it has to be done through their webiste. When you come to the last step PT will ask that you want this with NEW PT acc or use the existing PT acc |
posted 2009-Jun-18, 11pm AEST
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How do I order a new PSim service that is a port request? Hi muddled_rosella, From the PennyTel website, click on PennySIM then Order my SIM. Make sure you select the 'porting' option and fill out all details. There is also an option to choose your existing PennyTel account. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-19, 9am AEST
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@PTSIM can you please look for ticket number [#SJR-607867]. Priyesh send me an email, that my data service has been activated. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-19, 1pm AEST
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Hi SMARTbyte, We are looking into your case. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-19, 1pm AEST
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User #169734 125 posts
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Just noticed the latest PTSIM account update – up to last Tuesday!! – but only on one of my accounts, don't know what's happened to the rest. This is my first since data activation (casual data) and can now get some idea of data costs for using Colby app for SMS – vary a bit, around 3c to 3.5c per SMS. Would be interested to know the costs others are getting. |
posted 2009-Jun-19, 6pm AEST
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Is anyone having Optus Voicemail deposits showing up as retievals in their PennySim statement. It seems that in my statement all deposits are showing as retrievals. I should not be charged for retrievals as I have a SmartDial setup for the voice mailbox number to get the cheaper rate. [#LBV-522588] Also have had about 6 voicemail messages left and have so far only been charged for 1 deposit but heaps of withdrawals. Something starnge going on here too. |
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User #127027 130 posts
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Hey there, Exciting to hear about the GST-exclusive thing for all advertised plans ending. So it has been mentioned that where the basic PennySIM voice plan/add-on used to be $8.80 all up, it is now $8.00. So what about the data plans? Specifically, will the 500mb plan/add-on now be $8.88/month GST and everything inclusive? |
posted 2009-Jun-20, 9pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Option 1 Get 1GB for $13.88 |
posted 2009-Jun-20, 9pm AEST
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Hi there, Is there any plans of offering a smaller data plan than 500mb? While it's a good value add-on for $8.88, I think that a lot of mobile users would not end up using that much. There are other products out there on the market which suit intermediate data users a bit better, with a lower monthly commitment (e.g. a lot less than $16.88/month). I can understand that having lots of different offerings can increase your overhead though. Cheers. |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 5pm AEST
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Is there any plans of offering a smaller data plan than 500mb? Then you may be better choosing thw casual data plan. Pay per Mb. |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 5pm AEST
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Then you may be better choosing thw casual data plan. Pay per Mb. $5/mb is a bit excessive though... |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 6pm AEST
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$5/mb is a bit excessive though... The thing is, 500MB at $8.88 is as cheap as it comes anyway. It would not make sense for them to make it any cheaper from a business point of view. |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 7pm AEST
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The thing is, 500MB at $8.88 is as cheap as it comes anyway. It would not make sense for them to make it any cheaper from a business point of view. If you mean from administering the add-ons and stuff, I see where you are coming from. But yeah, it's only a suggestion anyway, mostly directed to the PennyTel staff. :) |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 9pm AEST
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On my wish list is for Smartdial to allow SIP calls (ie. calls to other VSP's subscribers) which would also be free. You can only enter digits for the numbers Smartdial maps to, and SIP URIs need the number + proxy, eg. <user number>@incoming.pennytel.com or <extension>@sip.maxo.com.au. You can call these types of numbers via a SIP client on a mobile or an application like Fring, and if you register to Voxalot, you can also dial with SIP codes, eg. *234<pennytel number>. |
posted 2009-Jun-21, 11pm AEST
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data costs for using Colby app for SMS – vary a bit, around 3c to 3.5c per SMS. Would be interested to know the costs others are getting. This is similar to my costs using casual data – Bill |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 7am AEST
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allow SIP calls +1 |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 8am AEST
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You can call these types of numbers via a SIP client on a mobile or an application like Fring, and if you register to Voxalot, you can also dial with SIP codes, eg. *234<pennytel number>. Not sure if it helps but Pennytel are sponsoring a Sipbroker PSTN gateway number. Call Sydney +61-2-8207-3337 PennyTel It's a free call from Pennysim. Works well for me but not all providers allow peering. You need to use sipbroker format (*234 etc, ENUM or ALIAS) once you are at the voice prompt. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 10am AEST
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So what about the data plans? Hi Prof Chaos, The 500Meg plan will be $8.88 inc GST, our website will be updated 1st July to reflect all the correct charges. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 10am AEST
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Is there any plans of offering a smaller data plan than 500mb? Hi CL0SeY, At this time 500Meg would be the lowest of the plans but you can always get the casual rate. Thanks for your input. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 10am AEST
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The 500Meg plan will be $8.88 inc GST, our website will be updated 1st July to reflect all the correct charges. That's really good value! Currently July Looks like these new rates apply already (looking at my account)- this is great! |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 11am AEST
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Hi Jim, Would there be any possibility of implementing this: /forum-replies.cfm?t=1206605&p=17#r334 Also, what are the current update days for the Pennysim CDR details? Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 11am AEST
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Any chance of getting unlimited e-mail package for $4.95 per month???? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 11am AEST
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How much data should I expect to consume for a 10 minute call? if u use PTSim and Smartdial (pilot number) theres no data involve in calls and u still get the cheap call rates (8c untimed to landlines etc) |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 11am AEST
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finally got a phone that can run killermobile (YAY!) for the people using it, is there anyway to speed up the calling? someone said something about adding a # to the end of the numbers... is that a feature killermobile will need to add? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 12pm AEST
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Would there be any possibility of implementing this: Hi scrag, Unfortunately not at the moment but I will definitely ask if it is possible. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 12pm AEST
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Any chance of getting unlimited e-mail package for $4.95 per month???? Not at this time but all suggestions are welcome and we do take note. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 12pm AEST
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someone said something about adding a # to the end of the numbers... is that a feature killermobile will need to add? KM Dialer will add a # if you set it in the settings. Also, a while ago I got them to add the possibility of handling +. You just set that to 0011 for international calls. In the exclude patterns make sure you add #000# to send 000 calls directly through the sim rather than VOIP. Also, if you have family and friends on Pennysim add their numbers in the exclude patterns as well. I guess the only "drawback" of the KM Dialer is that you have to always dial through the main Pilot Number. If you use the Pennytel Java app it dials straight to each specific Smartdial number without the voice prompt with the Pilot Number. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 12pm AEST
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I am thinking about using my 3g mobile to receive calls on my PennyTel To be honest, I don't think you could get a good call quality of running VoIP over 3G. Sure it's upto 3 or 7 Mbit/second but it's laggy as all hell and the call would sound bad. I suspect the best way would be to divert your PT number to your mobile... yes we know it costs, but it's better quality :D Maybe PT should buy like 50 of $20 mobile phones, hook them up to their PABX and if the PABX detects it's a call to a PT mobile number, it routes the call through the mobile, not their usual carrier. You know, like a 50-100 sim card version of this: http://www.2n.cz/products/gsm or the hardcore 200 sim card device here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+GSM+Gateways then we would get free PTVoIP --> PtSim calls. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 12pm AEST
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Also, a while ago I got them to add the possibility of handling +. You just set that to 0011 for international calls. I have paid and bought the Killer mobile dialer app, but it does not have this feature. Where can I get this updated app? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 1pm AEST
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This from the web site. Does that mean calling from pennysim to pennytel numbers (888) free. The "to" bit confuses me. to PennySIM to PennyTel |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 1pm AEST
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The "to" bit confuses me. to PennySIM to Penny If you make a call from your PT mobile (Psim) to a PT number (voip or Psim mobile), it is free. Calls to the Psim mobile are charged at mobile rates, like calls to normal mobiles. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 2pm AEST
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Does that mean calling from pennysim to pennytel numbers (888) free. This means you can call directly from your PennySIM to a PennyTel DID (traditional number) for free. If you would like to call a 888 number you can use the smart dial feature which would also be a free call. The "to" bit confuses me. to PennySIM to PennyTel Confuses me too ;) Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 2pm AEST
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This from the web site. The only way you would be able to call the 888 account numbers directly from Pennysim would be to call the Pennytel supported Sipbroker PSTN gateway. This is a free call. At the voice prompt enter *234 followed by the 888 account number. +61-2-8207-3337 Is the Sipbroker PSTN gateway number. It's a free call from Pennysim. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 3pm AEST
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I have paid and bought the Killer mobile dialer app, but it does not have this feature. Where can I get this updated app? Should be under the "settings" page. if it's not there you will have to email KM for the latest version. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 3pm AEST
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Should be under the "settings" page. if it's not there you will have to email KM for the latest version. I got the trial version for KillerMobile but couldn't find the the exclude from list function because of which I was planning to get that. Also I am planning to get new iPhone coming out this Friday. Is there any app which can do similar things like KM dialer / Sunnysoft calling card? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 4pm AEST
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I got the trial version for KillerMobile but couldn't find the the exclude from list function because of which I was planning to get that. Eh? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 5pm AEST
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Hi Jocelyn, My son is going away on a school ski holiday on the 3rd July (Friday week), if we order a PTSIM with SMS could we expect delivery before he goes away or is there a delay at the moment ? [EDIT] and can i ask other whirlpoolers how long it is taking from order to delivery ATM? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 5pm AEST
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My son is going away on a school ski holiday on the 3rd July (Friday week), if we order a PTSIM with SMS could we expect delivery before he goes away or is there a delay at the moment ? Hi Robbed, If it is a new service we could have PennySIM out to you quickly. But the SMS plan will not be available until the 1st of July. You could always upgrade once you receive the SIM? Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 6pm AEST
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sounds great Jim, we mainly need the ptsim, can I whim you my pt account and order one please? |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 6pm AEST
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Not sure if it helps but Pennytel are sponsoring a Sipbroker PSTN gateway number Yes, thanks, that helps to a point since as you say, not all VSPs support peering, The wishlist part is really a matter of convenience, since you can dial the PT SIP Broker gateway for free from a PSIM and then use the SIP code to call users with other providers, as you say. But it is a bit like only having the pilot number and no Smartdial facility ... you can still call any number after dialing the pilot number, but it is the convenience of being able to dial a single (Smartdial) number and be connected. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 7pm AEST
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But it is a bit like only having the pilot number and no Smartdial facility ... you can still call any number after dialing the pilot number, but it is the convenience of being able to dial a single (Smartdial) number and be connected. You could try adding numbers to your phone with the appropriate pauses in it? where xxxyyyyyyyyyy is the number you want to call |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 7pm AEST
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+61-2-8207-3337 Is the Sipbroker PSTN gateway number. It's a free call from Pennysim. The SIPBroker gateway is a free call? Wow, more of my calls are going to be free! |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 10pm AEST
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Can't beat the price, the call quality is good, the innovation is great, but I'm sorry I just can't live with the hell that is Pennytel billing anymore. Maybe I'll come back in a few months once all the bugs are ironed out. Just as I think I am getting closer to untangling everything, I suddenly get hit tonight with a $311.96 charge for the 62.4MB I used last month, while under the 500mb plan. I'm sure this error too will be resolved in due time, but the time and hassle just isn't worth it, especially when new problems keep coming as I get the old ones solved. So I'm abandoning the PennySIM ship for now, but I will be back... In the meantime, Jocelyn or Jim please help me get this new problem fixed too. The ticket number for this long list of problems is #GPP-748523. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-22, 10pm AEST
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Just as I think I am getting closer to untangling everything, I suddenly get hit tonight with a $311.96 charge for the 62.4MB I used last month, while under the 500mb plan. Sometimes, if you look at yourt account whilst Optus is downloading CDRs to Pennytel you will see a data charge. this will revert to free once the download is complete. I got a fright a few weeks back when the same thing happened to me. Check your account again and see if it's gone back to free. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 12am AEST
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Sometimes, if you look at yourt account whilst Optus is downloading CDRs to Pennytel you will see a data charge. this will revert to free once the download is complete. I got a fright a few weeks back when the same thing happened to me. Check your account again and see if it's gone back to free. Same here. And the one time the data charge stuck, they applied a credit the same day anyway. Bit of a scare but it gets sorted quickly. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 6am AEST
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Looks like Pennysim CDRs are now being updated on a more regular basis – fantastic! Thanks Jocelyn and Jim. Nonetheless, I am being charged incorrectly for voicemail deposits (15c/30sec). I should be charged 5c/30sec for deposits. Deposit: Retrieval (A): Retrieval (B): Retrieval (A) (B) because I have mapped a Smartdial number to the voicemail number to reduce the retrieval costs. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 6am AEST
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I am willing to bet you don't get this cheap because i bet optus charge for voice mail retrieval but not call cost. What i mean is that it is prob a free call to the optus voice mail but any incoming call to the voicemail no matter where it comes from is charged to your account at the voice mail retreaval rate. grr no what i mean but can't a good way to explain it. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 8am AEST
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so i have the "Append #" option enabled in KM Dialer but it still takes 40-50seconds before the number i'm dialing starts to ring... is anyone else experiencing such a long delay? is that normal? |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 8am AEST
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40-50seconds That seams long... for me from pushing call to actually ring ring was about 30 seconds... the first 10 was the dial to pilot number, the next 10-20 was the KM send number down the line and wait for connection. How long is the number you are calling (in digits)? |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 8am AEST
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I am willing to bet you don't get this cheap because i bet optus charge for voice mail retrieval but not call cost. What i mean is that it is prob a free call to the optus voice mail but any incoming call to the voicemail no matter where it comes from is charged to your account at the voice mail retreaval rate. Voicemail Deposit is a Voicemail Deposit and must be charged at the applicable rate which is 5c/30sec and NOT 15c/30sec. The rate is advertised as 5c/30sec for a deposit and MUST be charged as such. How I retrieve the Voicemail is up to me. The issue is that the deposits are being calculated incorrectly. I have had several deposits but there is no record of them on my account bar 1 which I could find. The others are all charged at retrieval rates.... Annoyed! |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 8am AEST
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Looks like Pennysim CDRs are now being updated on a more rgular basis Well.... sort of. We have 3 SIMs – one has call data up to June 18 but the other 2 only up to the first week of June???? This is a real pain when you want to use Bpay to keep your account topped up and not have charges to your credit card. I don't mind having a reasonable amount of credit in the account, but why should I have to load up the account just because it takes so long to get call costs. I also need to keep tabs on usage by a certain younger member of the family and long delays don't help. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 9am AEST
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40-50seconds That seams long... for me from pushing call to actually ring ring was about 30 seconds... the first 10 was the dial to pilot number, the next 10-20 was the KM send number down the line and wait for connection. How long is the number you are calling (in digits)? calling +614XXXXXXXX i will call a landline and see if its any quicker.. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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40-50seconds I think part of the delay is the voice prompt from the Pennytel Pilot Number. Try this – in the "settings" menu of KM reduce the DTMF Delay (Sec.) to 1. This should improve the delay but you will notice that the Pilot Number voice prompt will become garbled as the DTMF tones "overwrite" the voice prompt – It will still work though. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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any number i try calling via Smartdial right now is saying "the country you are calling is currently congested" calling australia landlines and mobiles... pennytel whats going on?? |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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Nonetheless, I am being charged incorrectly for voicemail deposits (15c/30sec). Hi Scrag, We are looking into your ticket in regards to your voice mail issue, we will update you shortly. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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any number i try calling via Smartdial right now is saying "the country you are calling is currently congested" calling australia landlines and mobiles... Smacko578, have you sent us an email with some details? If so please whim me your ticket number for further investigation. There are no current issues. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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We are looking into your ticket in regards to your voice mail issue Thanks Jim. Much appreciated. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10am AEST
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Hi Pro-logic, All very good questions, I will forward your questions and try to get an update. Regards, Hey, any update on at least item 1 and 2? Now that 8c sms are available 3 is not as important. |
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Jim, my bad.. i was dialing without using 03 (melbourne number) i didn't know it was needed but makes sense as its an aussie wide thing |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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Try this – in the "settings" menu of KM reduce the DTMF Delay (Sec.) to 1. Yeah that works well. To PennyTel staff... what's the minimum required time for each tone to be sent down the line? KM Dialer keeps each tone for about 1 second, which makes the dial a bit slow especially if you dial the 001161411111111 number... if you could give us a minimum time for each DTMF tone, and minimum pause, we could slap 50% onto it to be safe, and I suspect we could still get the each number to audo-dial in 200-300ms. Thus being able to dial 3-5 times as fast. Just a thought. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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1) Can we split data across multiple sim cards yet? I know that splitting data is a feature we want to provide but it is not yet available. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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Can pennytel please implement a feature for a search function on sms history. I send a lot of sms's and I need some information from the messages I have sent. I could locate it in a second if it had a search, but otherwise I have to go through hundreds of messages. The reason I'm searching my sms history is because I've lost somebodies number and its the only way I can retrieve it easily. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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Jim, my bad.. i was dialing without using 03 (melbourne number) i didn't know it was needed but makes sense as its an aussie wide thing Hi Smacko578, You can change the way you make a call by logging into your account and changing your dial plan to suite your location. You will find this in Profile > Call Features > Dial Plan. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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Can pennytel please implement a feature for a search function on sms history. A search feature in the SMS history... good idea! I know our developers have a lot on their plate at the moment but ill bring this up with them. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 11am AEST
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We are looking into your ticket in regards to your voice mail issue Jim thanks for the help. Mark has emailed me and believes to have found the issue. Thanks to both for the quick response. |
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Hi guys, I have seen a discussion about this, somewhere else, but it wasn't finished: What APN are you using? Strange... Does anyone know the difference? Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 2pm AEST
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I think something that may be handy, through the account portal, would be to have all Pennysim Smartdial CDRs together with the Optus CDRs. It would be much easier to reconcile at the end of every month. This would alleviate having to go backwards and forwards to the different statements. I think it would be quite difficult to set up for Pennytel though but there must be a way. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 3pm AEST
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I'm not sure if this is possible are there other carriers out there providing this service? Well... it probably is possible, but knowing the big telcos they would want to charge an arm and a leg for it... Think of it as 'shaping' to 0... if they can shape somebody's adsl after they go over their quota, there is absolutely to reason why they couldn't shape their 3G. (This is if they are competent and have a single billing/data counting system) available to them. As far as I know, nobody offers 'shaping' on their 3G... but hey, it's small companies like PT that can start innovation! |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 4pm AEST
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Pennytel, Is there anyways I can have roaming activated without travelling to overseas? I can pay a deposit of $250 which you can have as a bond (not against my bill). |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 8pm AEST
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As far as I know, nobody offers 'shaping' on their 3G... but hey, it's small companies like PT that can start innovation! I thought virgin were doing that for a while... the problem was the network can't then cope with people leeching at 64kbit for the rest of the month. |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 9pm AEST
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Hi Jim and Jocelyn, >Just as I think I am getting closer to untangling everything, Sometimes, if you look at yourt account whilst Optus is downloading CDRs to Pennytel you will see a data charge. this will revert to free once the download is complete. Unfortunately the $311.96 charge is still there, as is the credit taken from my VoIP account. Can you please have a look at it, again my ticket number is #GPP-748523. Thanks. |
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Retrieval (A) (B) because I have mapped a Smartdial number to the voicemail number to reduce the retrieval costs. Hi Scarg, Just realised that it costs about 30c per minute to retrieve optus voice mail. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-23, 10pm AEST
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Would you mind sharing how you have setup your voice mail retrieval to reduce charges? All you need to do is map the Optus Voicemail number to a Smartdial number and then add the assigned Smartdial number as your voicemailbox number for the number "1" key. If you have your main accounts CLID set to "private" or your mobile number you will get straight to message bank. If you have CLID set to a custom CLID other than "private" or your mobile number when you get to the message service you will need to enter your mobile number and your voicemail PIN. Instead of getting charged 15c/30sec you will now be using Smartdial to retrieve voicemail at the rate of 10.5c/min. |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 6am AEST
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Anyone have issues with SIM registration this morning. Mine is coming up "SIM registration failed" as of 4am? Will check again later. |
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Will check again later 09:51am. Now shows if it's roaming or 3G but unable to get any reception. Tried another Optus sim in the phone and works fine, so it's not the phone. Removed and replaced my sim numerous times – no go! This is really unacceptable! This is definitely a Pennytel or Optus issue. |
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I could not believe when I check my account this morning and saw SMS charges before even my number was ported. Can someone please explain what's going on there? |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 9am AEST
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the problem was the network can't then cope with people leeching at 64kbit for the rest of the month. That's why they should have two, or maybe 3 options: 1) Shape to 0 ie nothing |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 9am AEST
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Anyone have issues with SIM registration this morning. Mine is coming up "SIM registration failed" as of 4am? Hi scrag, Recieved your whim, looking into your issue.... Jim. |
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I could not believe when I check my account this morning and saw SMS charges before even my number was ported. Can someone please explain what's going on there? Hi jaliyan, Can you please send some details over to support and whim me the ticket number so we can further investigate? Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 10am AEST
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Received the credit from support. Thank you. |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 11am AEST
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There are 2 ways to set up smart dial, looks like you have done half of both ways. You can either assign your contacts with the smartdial numbers OR sync your contacts from the PennyTel app. Please do not do both methods as smartdial will get all mixed up.... That sounds like my problem [XIU-865875]. I started with a few Smart Dial numbers set up on the server until I got a phone (iPhone) that would run the app, then added the rest by syncing and maintaining on the phone. Is there a way to reset my address book and smart dial settings on the server and start again? I've tried deleting all the smart dial numbers, and resetting the app, but only one or a few smart dial entries get recreated. Do I need to delete all the phone book entries too? |
posted 2009-Jun-24, 8pm AEST
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I had this with sim calls, someone was looking into it but its an Optus Problem and they are slow. |
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Is there a way to reset my address book and smart dial settings on the server and start again? I've tried deleting all the smart dial numbers, and resetting the app, but only one or a few smart dial entries get recreated. Do I need to delete all the phone book entries too? Your spot on, you need to delete all smartdial and all phone book entires and then sync from your iphone again. That should fix the issue. If you have toooo many contacts then just update your ticket and ask us to reset it for you. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-25, 11am AEST
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Your spot on, you need to delete all smartdial and all phone book entires and then sync from your iphone again. That should fix the issue. If you have toooo many contacts then just update your ticket and ask us to reset it for you. Thanks Jim, looks like that fixed it. |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 1am AEST
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Jim, Are you able to advise us on what days the Pennysim CDRs are updated/downloaded from Optus? last week, I'm pretty sure, there were two updates in the one week. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 10am AEST
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Jim/Jocelyn, How do we know what data plan we are on? My last invoice showed $13.88 for data , but I thought I was on the 500mb plan? |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 11am AEST
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Are you able to advise us on what days the Pennysim CDRs are updated/downloaded from Optus? Unfortunately at this time there is no specific interval for the updates, we are implementing a new system to periodically update the CDR's (hopefully daily) but for now it will be at least once a week. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 1pm AEST
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How do we know what data plan we are on? My last invoice showed $13.88 for data , but I thought I was on the 500mb plan? Hi Robbed, You may just have to shoot us an email so we can double check for you. Usually you will get an automated email when you sign up for the data plan notifying you what plan you are on, and if there are any changes you will again receive another email notification. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 1pm AEST
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I also believe – from what I've interpreted on this forum – that starting July 1, we'll be able to go onto the pennytel website to be able to change plans etc. |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 1pm AEST
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Hi Robbed, You may just have to shoot us an email so we can double check for you. Usually you will get an automated email when you sign up for the data plan notifying you what plan you are on, and if there are any changes you will again receive another email notification. Regards, Thanks for checking (in your whim) that I am actually on the 500Mb plan Jim, I have sent an email to support asking why I was charged the 1Gb rate and hopefully they will handle it from here. Thanks Jim |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 3pm AEST
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I'm using Samsung F480 – i installed Pennytel Mobile App, smartdial works – when i ring the other number it registers blocked caller. The send SMS does not work at all "error application has to close". Can anyone advise if i need to change some setting or is this a compatibility issue on the phone. Thanks |
posted 2009-Jun-26, 4pm AEST
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Hey Pennytel. Have you though about expanding into 'prepaid' territory? Primarily I'm eyeing off 'pre-paid' data only sims. Ie pay $15 (so almost twice as much) or so for 500MB of data, but it has an expiry of say a year. That way since the point of my data-sim is backup only internet connection I'm likely to spend less money, and you guys have 2x as much money for the same amount of data. |
posted 2009-Jun-27, 9am AEST
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Well I had a premonition that cancelling my 2 PT SIMs obtained under the 2 month promo would not happen smoothly. Checked some time ago with PTSIM and Jocelyn about the process, and was told: "...on your next billing cycle (June 27), you will be charge for your 3 PennySIMs (assuming your ported number request is completed). And then, the second month refund for your 2 PennySIMs will be schedule on July 27. So if you don't want to get charge for the 2 pennysims which are under the promo, I suggest to send us a request for cancellation 3 days before the next billing cycle." I sent the request on June 23 with the details I was told to include, then got an email June 24 asking for other details, which I replied to that day ... then silence. Then finally on June 26: "We have submitted your cancellation requests for servce numbers 04xxxxxxxx and 04xxxxxxxx. We wii notify you via email once this process is complete." But on the June 27, guess what! I get charged $8 each for all 3 SIMs, 2 of which PT had confirmed were in the process of cancellation the day before. Porting my number was quicker than a simple cancellation! So what happens now? If the 2 SIMs are cancelled in the next few days, do I get a (at least pro rata) credit for the $8 x 2 fee? I hope so, because those SIMs will not be usable and I've paid for a whole month of access. I just knew this would not work. |
posted 2009-Jun-27, 3pm AEST
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pt, if I upgrade to the new 13.88 plan do I pay the extra $5.88 for the month as you will have already deducted the $8 out of my account for July, can you please advise as your accounts section is hard to follow, also I am still waiting to a $11 credit for call charges before my sim was ported. Thanks Terry |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 11am AEST
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Well I had a premonition that cancelling my 2 PT SIMs obtained under the 2 month promo would not happen smoothly Had a similar experience, but I had no action after my first request and had to send a second request over a week later. Send an email to support@pennytel.com outlining situation and ask for a refund. It will take a bit of time (probably get sent to various groups inside PT), but my experience is that as long as you keep asking it does eventually get sorted out. I know people complain a lot about PT service, but things usually do get sorted and I've found that Telstra and Optus don't exactly fall over themselves to help you, even at the prices they charge. |
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I would put Optus and Helstra in the same category now......grab your money and run. |
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What's the current situation with caller ID? Does it pass the ID of the phone you are calling from, or the ID from the account? |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 4pm AEST
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when I use my mobile its shows that number, when I use the house phone it also shows the mobile number attached to that account. but I have two accounts so I show two different numbers. Mobile 1= I don't use that account for pt vop phone so it just shows my mobile number |
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when I use my mobile its shows that number, when I use the house phone it also shows the mobile number attached to that account. So to clarify, if it's coming from a PT sim it passes the number of the PT sim which is different from the number attached to the account? |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 4pm AEST
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yes pt sim shows my mobile number but I think you can change that in your accounts section (not really100% sure) |
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What's the current situation with caller ID? This CLD issue is the bain of Pennysim – it's really annoying that you have to set your main accounts CLD to your mobile. The issue here is that when you use your home phone, it will show your mobile number. I have asked and mentioned this in the first posts of the first Pennysim thread but nothing has been done about it. When you make a call from your mobile it should show its number and when you call from home it should show that number – quite simple really. It really does seem that Pennytel, I am sorry to say, are turning a very blind eye to this issue. At this stage the only response I have had about it are that they are looking into the issue. They have looked into the issue for about 5 months now – no real response except to open another account which I really don't wish to do. Last week someone brought it up again in this thread but again nothing much has been done again. Apparently many users wished to have their home number shown from their mobile – this is stupid! This was apparently changed as a request. Hopefully Pennytel can change it back. So Pennytel, please setup custom CLD for SDmartDial or at least implement what you had set up initially with number passthrough for CLD. This CLD issue would be the main reason why my wife went to TPG. |
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The issue here is that when you use your home phone, it will show your mobile number. You could always set up another pennytel number and use that for your pennysim calls. Of course then you can't have the mobile and home phone using the same included calls, but is that really standard practise for telcos? :) |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 6pm AEST
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Of course then you can't have the mobile and home phone using the same included calls, but is that really standard practise for telcos? :) I think more to the point you would need multiple accounts, which is just annoying. Even though you have multiple products with a normal provider you still have one account. I remember when I tried PT sim it would pass through the number through the pilot gateway. Does it still pass the PTSIM ID number through the pilot number, or does it now assume the default account ID? |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 7pm AEST
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I think more to the point you would need multiple accounts, which is just annoying. Even though you have multiple products with a normal provider you still have one account. True, true. Would be a good feature to have one account split up by separate services. I remember when I tried PT sim it would pass through the number through the pilot gateway. Does it still pass the PTSIM ID number through the pilot number, or does it now assume the default account ID? I think the pilot number would work in the same way as Smart Dial... so would end up with the account's caller ID |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 8pm AEST
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remember when I tried PT sim it would pass through the number through the pilot gateway. Does it still pass the PTSIM ID number through the pilot number, or does it now assume the default account ID? It USED to work this way – that the PTSIM mobile number would pass through on mobile calls. Apparently, people complained that their PTSIM number was showing, and Pennytel changed it such that all smartdial calls now carry ONLY the setting that is in the linked account. This is annoying, particularly as now all my calls made from my home phone show my mobile number in order to get Caller ID, and when my partner calls people from my Pennytel service at home, people often call me back on my mobile, as it's my mobile that has to be sent. I've asked Pennytel to change it back to how it worked originally, but they will not. They actually can do it, but they choose not to. I also asked them about whether they will finally get around to offering customised caller ID for each service attached to an account, and they said that it will, but that this is not being worked on at the moment (it's only on the wish list). The solution involving separate accounts doesn't work for me, as the new account would be subject to the new credit card transaction fees, and also the rumoured "shared data plans" across multiple PTSIMs within an account would also not work. I prefer to keep everything in the one account for these reasons. It's about the only real disappointment I have with Pennytel at the moment. |
posted 2009-Jun-28, 11pm AEST
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It USED to work this way and to be honest I agree with every point you outlined here... I cannot see the benefit of actually passing a single CLD when you potentially have 3 or 4 services connected upto the one account. offering customised caller ID for each service attached to an account This would be good, either a "pass through/default", "hidden" or "chose custom" and also the rumoured "shared data plans" across multiple PTSIMs This is also a good reason to have it on a single account. As well as for billing purposes... why have 3 accounts with a $10 minimum, when you can have 1 with a $10 minimum... The CC fee really doesn't concern me that much because you can offset that by making a large recharge value, but if i had it over 4 accounts, yes it would annoy the crap out of me. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 8am AEST
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yeah come on pennytel turn the caller ID back to how it was.. i'm sick of my homephone sending out my mobile number... |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 9am AEST
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yeah come on pennytel turn the caller ID back to how it was.. Please Pennytel, allow mobile number passthrough again. You are usually so good at listening to people's wishes! This would be of great benefit to those with more than one Pennysim on the one account. |
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It USED to work this way – that the PTSIM mobile number would pass through on mobile calls. Apparently, people complained that their PTSIM number was showing, and Pennytel changed it such that all smartdial calls now carry ONLY the setting that is in the linked account. Yes we think its always best to listen to our customers, so very soon we will implement a 2nd caller ID for each account. One will be for the account and the other will be for smartdial. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 10am AEST
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Well I had a premonition that cancelling my 2 PT SIMs obtained under the 2 month promo would not happen smoothly. Hi Benolam, We ask that you notify us at least 5 days in advance as per our T&C but because you were told otherwise im sure we will work out a solution for you. It may actually take up to 5 days for the cancellation process to complete this is the reason why. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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pt, if I upgrade to the new 13.88 plan do I pay the extra $5.88 for the month as you will have already deducted the $8 out of my account for July Hi Terry, All upgrades are conducted at the end of your billing cycle, so if you were to request a plan change today it will not take affect until your next cycle. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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very soon we will implement a 2nd caller ID for each account. Oh, this is good news Jim. Thank you very much for listening. This is great! I was wondering, if people have more than one Pennysim on their account, will each Pennysim be able to display its respective number (through Smartdial) with this feature? or just one extra ID per account? |
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very soon we will implement a 2nd caller ID for each account. One will be for the account and the other will be for smartdial. This sounds like a great step forward. However does this mean you'll be able to have multiple PennySIMs per account, and they'll all pass their callerID through? I ask because I might move 3 services over. So I want all 3 to pass their correct caller ID through, it would be useless for all 3 mobiles to report the same 'smart dial' caller id. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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I was wondering, if people have more than one Pennysim on their account, will each Pennysim be able to display its respective number (through Smartdial) with this feature? or just one extra ID per account? Beat me to it... |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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Yes we think its always best to listen to our customers, so very soon we will implement a 2nd caller ID for each account. One will be for the account and the other will be for smartdial. Jim: This is very positive to hear – I'm glad that it will be released soon. Ideally, for me, and a number of people that have recently posted on the thread, complete customisation of ATA based calls and calls from each PennySIM would be valuable. If that's not possible, then a compromise would be to have the general account caller ID to operate as it does now, and on the SmartDial, set up three options:
This, I am sure, would allay the fears that people would have about multiple different PennySIM phones attached to the one account, so that the home phone and the PennySIMs all get their own customised caller ID. It would also keep the Profile Interface simpler, as you wouldn't have to set up drop down lists in every profile of every PennySIM that the account holder has attached to the service. Does this sound like how you plan to implement this feature? If you could, it would be my last major impediment to bringing my second phone service over to you, and I'm sure from the last few messages would make quite a lot of people very happy! |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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I wonder how this new custom CLD for Smartdial will affect the Pennytel Mobile Java Application in order to send SMS from the application if there is more than one mobile per account. This may be a difficult to implement... Perhaps Jim can comment on this. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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Unfortunately the caller ID on the Smartdial section will only be one number (for now) By default it will be the same number on your account until you login and make the changes. We understand that you may want more than one PennySIM in one account but that may create more problems because for each number you would want differing smartdial sections, differing caller ID and differing contacts list. I think in cases like this having a separate account would be best? But I also know having the option would be beneficial too. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11am AEST
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We understand that you may want more than one PennySIM in one account Yep :) for each number you would want differing smartdial sections, differing caller ID and differing contacts list. Actually, I'm quite happy to pass on that. All mobiles I own are s60 and therefore I can run KM dialer, which means I have no need for Smart Dial what so ever. I think in cases like this having a separate account would be best? As mentioned above there are negatives to this: I don't know what the back-end-code is or how it works, but if pass-through worked before, is it really that hard to have it again? Edit: Spilling |
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Unfortunately the caller ID on the Smartdial section will only be one number (for now) Ok, fair enough – it's a great start though with this "issue". you may want more than one PennySIM in one account but that may create more problems because for each number you would want differing smartdial sections, differing caller ID and differing contacts list. I sort of tend to agree but since the pool of contacts comes from the main Pennytel account all contacts for Smartdial would come from here for everyone. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, for example a family with three people and each has a Pennysim. The main Pennytel account contacts are what everyone is using now anyway and all everyone has to do is add all their contacts to the main account and then everyone sets up Smartdial for each respective Pennysim number. At the moment you can set up any number to use Smartdial with anyway, so why would it be any different for each Pennysim? |
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All mobiles I own are s60 and therefore I can run KM dialer, which means I have no need for Smart Dial what so ever. But you would want your mobile CLD to be passed through the Smartdial Pilot Number as well if you are using KMDialer.... correct.... |
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But you would want your mobile CLD to be passed through the Smartdial Pilot Number as well if you are using KMDialer.... correct.... Yes... I'm saying I don't mind if it's shared or not because I don't need to share it, so as long as the CLD is passed-through I don't care about the address book. |
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Ok, I'm with you pro-logic – understood. the smartdial address book has to be shared. That's what I was trying to say in a long winded way. Everyone would be using the same or similar pool of contacts anyway. They would just pick the relevant Smartdial numbers for the relevant contacts and add them to their mobile. It would, however, make for a long sync if you are using the PT Mobile App and have a lot of contacts. I have 126 contacts to sync and I saw a post elsewhere where someone had 500+. It's worth the hassle though! |
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Unfortunately there's a down side for some of us. Those that have gone the separate accounts route to allow caller ID to show would be faced with a (I think) $20 charge to move their other number to the main account, and would lose the balance of the existing account. In our family, that's $40 for transfers and at least $20 in lost account balance – don't see it happening. The perils of being an early adopter ;-) |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 12pm AEST
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I think in cases like this having a separate account would be best That should be quite workable, except I would want the separate accounts to be able to draw from the same money pool (wallet?). As I understand it, PennyTel do not offer that. It is NOT satisfactory to have my home number appear as CLI when I am calling from my mobile. An infrastructure solution is needed. I consider having separate accounts a workaround. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 12pm AEST
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It is NOT satisfactory to have my home number appear as CLI when I am calling from my mobile. Yes that is why we are implementing a CID for just smartdial as well as your account, im guessing that the most convenient way would be to set your smart dial CID as your mobile number and your home number as your account CID... Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 1pm AEST
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Yes that is why we are implementing a CID for just smartdial as well as your account, im guessing that the most convenient way would be to set your smart dial CID as your mobile number and your home number as your account CID... Jim: That's right, and it does solve the problem for those that only have one PennySIM attached to their account, but for those that have got more than one PennySIM attached, it doesn't fix the problem – you will have more than one mobile making calls, which will look like they're all coming from one mobile. Having everything in one account will allow users to:
My worry is that if we sign up separate accounts to get separate caller IDs, I will lose the above benefits, and if I have to bring my accounts together in the future, you will charge me the manual transaction fee to bring them together again. All of this could be completely unnecessary simply by offering the option for smartdial caller ID in the profile to say "Allow Passthrough of PennySIM number". You did offer this originally (passthrough of PennySIM caller ID) when you first offered PennySIM, so it can be done. Many customers here obviously want this – is there a way you can maybe make it happen? It's by far the biggest factor in not bringing my additional mobile services to Pennytel. I would really welcome your opinions on this post, Jim! |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 2pm AEST
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My worry is that if we sign up separate accounts to get separate caller IDs, I will lose the above benefits, and if I have to bring my accounts together in the future, you will charge me the manual transaction fee to bring them together again. Alternatively make like a 'super account'. ie something which is a account from which all sub-accounts can draw funding, plans etc. |
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Alternatively make like a 'super account'. ie something which is a account from which all sub-accounts can draw funding, plans etc. That would be acceptable – providing credit card charges which were previously waived would not now be charged on the umbrella account. MNF do successfully offer merging of accounts. It can be done. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 3pm AEST
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All of this could be completely unnecessary simply by offering the option for smartdial caller ID in the profile to say "Allow Passthrough of PennySIM number". Iv been working with the developers (who are now banging their heads on the wall) but they are going to put a drop down menu for the smart dial CID to include the PennySIM number or a 'Pass Though' option to accommodate for all PennySIM's on one account. The pass though option will allow the CID of the mobile number you are calling though. You will also have the option to enable or disable CID. Happy happy? |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 3pm AEST
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Happy happy? We are, not sure about your developer :D |
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The pass though option will allow the CID of the mobile number you are calling though. You will also have the option to enable or disable CID. Happy happy? Indeed :) Give your developers a cookie each :D edit: wait, one more thing! SMS caller ID passthrough as well? pleeeeeasssseeeee :D |
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Awesome news Jim. Thanks. Will the CLD still pass through the Pilot Number with these new Smartdial settings? I would assume so as the Pilot Number is in itself a type of Smartdial number. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 4pm AEST
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wait, one more thing! SMS caller ID passthrough as well? Yeah, that would be great from the Pennytel Java Mobile App. |
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SMS caller ID passthrough as well? pleeeeeasssseeeee That's probably not as big a PITA as it sounds. What they'd need to do to this one is add a new API to their current SOAP instructions (in order to maintain backward compatibility ). Without seeing the code they use, I can't imagine this would be very hard to do. Should be a lot easier then the pass-through for phone calls... essentially the new packet would need one more parameter – "callerID" – the server would then verify if the number in "callerID" in the soap packet is a 'verified' number in the account, and pass it onto the upstream SMS provider in much the same way that the current system works. |
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Happy happy? Jim: Yes, this is outstanding! Very very happy with this result! As people have mentioned above, SMS passthrough will be equally important. But I'm really really glad you guys are listening to us! |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 4pm AEST
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Thank you Jim, I would like both my pennysims to show their CID, so if this can be done then congratulations. Cloneme |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 4pm AEST
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Thanks PT developers. A round of drink on me :-) |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 5pm AEST
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This sounds good to me. Thanks for your work on this Jim and colleagues. I feel for the developers, but as a sometime software developer myself, I am always being asked for this and that enhancement. I know they will survive. PennySIM is shaping up as a valuable entity in the Australian telecommunications market. Surprised there are no copycats so far. Only thing missing now is free calls FROM the PennyTel VOIP account TO PennySIM phones on that account and diversion of incoming calls to the VOIP account to a PennySIM on that account. Now, this suggestion might sound greedy but step back and have a look at what's already possible:
so why not:
Can't see that the mobile infrastructure cost/burden is any different from the current list of features. Concede that it would take some development work but it would serve to make the PennySIM "feature complete". |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 5pm AEST
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Free VOIP account -> Same account PennySIM = VOIP + 1 Mobile leg Whilst I agree it would be nice (and useful) I doubt that it would be allowed. It would then allow everyone to use PennySIM with a diversion from their DID and effectively allow people to make very cheap calls to your mobile. I would probably argue that Pennytel had the arrangement to get free calls to the interconnect network with Optus, but I couldn't imagine Optus agreeing to give up its mobile termination interconnect fee. Still, we can hope. Jim, thanks for your work today – I'm very pleased that you're developing a critical feature in the usability of PennySIM on a single account! |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 6pm AEST
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Free VOIP account -> Same account PennySIM = VOIP + 1 Mobile leg The reason is relatively simple. PennyTel probably use somebody else for their upsteram provider for mobile calls. Somebody other then Optus. This entity would have *no* benefit from allowing free calls to Optus mobiles. PennyTel would not be silly enough to allow *free* calls to PTSims as they would be making a loss. I have suggested this previously, but one solution would be for PT to invest in a SIP to GSM gateway capable of holding lots of simultaneous phone calls. Check out the SIP to GSM gateways here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+GSM+Gateways Or http://www.2n.cz/products/umt This way they could set up their current server to route all PennySim calls via their own gateway which would then put the calls onto the Optus network. |
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Smartdial custom CID:- The big question now is.... When is this going to be ready to use? |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 7pm AEST
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The big question now is.... When is this going to be ready to use? .... and the other one is... how do we get the SIMs we had set up on new accounts (to allow caller ID) back to our main account without the transfer fee and without the loss of remaining new accounts credit. The new system sounds great, but if you are already set up on several different accounts the costs of changing will probably not make it worthwhile. |
posted 2009-Jun-29, 11pm AEST
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The pass though option will allow the CID of the mobile number you are calling though. You will also have the option to enable or disable CID. Since we have 6 PT sims attached to one account – this will be wonderful – it will stop me getting all the return calls that were from my kids ringing their friends. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 7am AEST
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When is this going to be ready to use? Jim said it was very soon. My guess would be this week since there is a scheduled update for this/next week it'll happen then: /forum-replies.cfm?t=1206605&p=21#r408 |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 8am AEST
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Jim said it was very soon Sure, I was so excited about this finally happening that I forgot Jim's first post about it. I guess it will be the 1st July or soon after.... with the new changes. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 8am AEST
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Jim/Jocelyn, What is the quickest way to upgrade to the new $13.88 SMS plan which starts tomorrow? Will we able to send 8c SMS's immediately starting tomorrow? |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 1pm AEST
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Will we able to send 8c SMS's immediately starting tomorrow? Let me guess that it will take at least 5 days. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 2pm AEST
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What is the quickest way to upgrade to the new $13.88 SMS plan which starts tomorrow? If you send us an email then we can upgrade your plan but it will not take affect until your next billing cycle. The good news is that the SMS's might even be cheaper than 8c, rumor is it may even be as low as 5c but will have to wait and see tomorrow once the website is updated. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 2pm AEST
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as low as 5c Drooooooooool... |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 2pm AEST
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Just gets better by the day.... that's great value. C'mon tomorrow! Thanks for all the tireless work Jim. |
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wow.....that's really good. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 3pm AEST
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If you send us an email then we can upgrade your plan but it will not take affect until your next billing cycle. My billing cycle ends TODAY!!!! Does this mean it will be August before I can send a cheap SMS???? |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 3pm AEST
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My billing cycle ends TODAY!!!! Me too – Bill |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 3pm AEST
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posted 2009-Jun-30, 4pm AEST
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we can upgrade your plan but it will not take affect until your next billing cycle With all other PennyTel plan changes you have the option of immediate change or end of billing cycle. Obviously with the PennySIM and Optus involved, immediate change might not be possible but I might have expected a week or 7 business days. I've put in my email for the change but I want implementation to as close as possible coincide with the end of my Virgin Free2V recharge on 8th July. Wanting to get rid of this clunky chinese twin-sim GSM phone and use my sleek, compact lightweight 3G phone with just the PennySIM in it. Looks like I'll have to have a text-free fortnight. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 4pm AEST
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I've put in my email for the change Oops, looks like I jumped the gun by 24 hours. 1st July is tomorrow! Just got this email reply from PTSIM: ['Dear Customer, Please be informed, still we haven't introduce our new Plan. Once we launched it, we will let you know. If you need further assistance regarding this request, please feel free to contact us by replying to this email. Thank You for choosing PennySIM, PennySIM Team'] Why isn't my Whirlcode working??? |
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just out of curiosity. Is there anything stopping us from putting our pennysim into a iphone and using it ? i'm guessing the iphone has to be either locked to OPTUS, or unlocked altogether ? Dense |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 10pm AEST
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i'm guessing the iphone has to be either locked to OPTUS, or unlocked altogether ? Yes, there's nothing stopping you using an iPhone. Keep in mind, though, that the iPhone is 850/2100MHz UMTS, so it won't work on the rural/regional 900MHz Optus network – it will drop back to GSM/GPRS (i.e. slow!) in those areas. |
posted 2009-Jun-30, 11pm AEST
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(edited as off topic) |
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Looks like I spoke too soon here as well. Just noticed this line at the top of the Change Plan page on the PT web site - "Request for change of plan will be process at the end of current billing cycle. For new accounts, request will be process immediately." Translated from PennyTel english, that would read, "Request for change of plan will be processED at the end of current billing cycle. For new accounts, request will be processED immediately." Also, on the same page, "Terms and condition applies" should read "Terms and conditions apply". So why this change? I get the impression from these forums that there are some people who chop and change amongst plans several times a month and that must cause problems occasionally, or more likely disputed billing. PennyTel partly brought this rapid fire changeing on themselves by messing about with the plans, particularly the Crazy Talk plan, which was severely devalued. Understandable to a certain extent, as there were quite a few people abusing the plan. I really think, though, with the introduction of a new plan like the PennySIM SMS Plan, which people have been crying out for since the inception of PennySIM, a change to that plan should be available right away. To make matters worse in my case, due to a PennyTel system error about a month ago, my billing cycle date slipped from the 16th to the 21st of the month. This happened to others at the time too. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 9am AEST
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However, I have still not seen an update on the PennyTel website just yet... Hi oliver_v, Our website is now updated. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 11am AEST
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Excellent.... 5c SMS on the SMS plan. Will make a lot of people very happy. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 11am AEST
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I find the possiblity of texting at 5c as suggested by Jim of PennyTel very exciting It certainly is, but the big attraction of the plan is uncharged texts between PennySIMs. I say "uncharged" rather than "free" because you pay a hefty premium on the monthly subscription for the privilege, but for my usage patterns, it is worth having (and paying for). While on this subject, I have seen the question raised in these forums as to why you would want to send text; with calls so cheap why not just phone? Let me answer that – because, like emails, SMS messages can be dealt with in the receiver's own time, instead of when the sender (or caller) decides they want an answer. SMSs can be received quietly during meetings and the contents acted upon during the same meeting, whereas the receiver is unlikely to answer their phone during a meeting. I find SMS a very useful communication tool, it's just that most providers overcharge excessively for them. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 11am AEST
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Just saw it on the PennySIM home page... 5c for national SMS and free between PennySIMs You do? I don't see it on the PennySIM home page, it still says "$0.2273 Per National SMS". However, on the PennySIM Plan page, that information is there. So, now there's an information discrepancy between PennyTel web site pages. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 11am AEST
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However, on the PennySIM Plan page, that information is there. So, now there's an information discrepancy between PennyTel web site pages. On the PennySIM home page it is giving the $8 plan as an example, to view all of the plans just click on 'Voice Plan' Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 11am AEST
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Jim, would you have any news on when the CID passthrough for Smartdial will be available? Thanks. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 12pm AEST
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so i want to get on this new sms plan, i have emailed but can i request this change via the website?? |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 12pm AEST
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pt...how many days will it take for you to change my plan ? also does the data plan have 5c sms ? Thanks Terry |
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For the last few days I have been having problems with smart dail. At times when I dial the smart dail number after a while a voice prompt from optus says "optus wishes to advice this number has been disconnected" Then if I dail the pennytel pilot number and enter the destination number after while it says "the contry you are calling is congested" or there is not sound I can understand if this happened occassionaly (country being congested) but over the last week I have had this problem trying to call NZ, USA and UK. I wonder if PT is having some issues. Have other people experienced this? |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 3pm AEST
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Jim, would you have any news on when the CID passthrough for Smartdial will be available? Thanks. As mentioned it will be very soon, we were hopeing it would be ready today but I don't want to give a definite date until we know for sure when we will release it. We are also working on sending your change plan requests via the login interface kind of like what we have for the PennyVoIP section. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 3pm AEST
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pt...how many days will it take for you to change my plan ? Please make a request 5 days before your billing period ends as changes take effect next billing cycle. also does the data plan have 5c sms ? errrr huh? If your asking if the new PennySIM plan needs data to make the 5c SMS's the answer is no, you do not need data. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 3pm AEST
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For the last few days I have been having problems with smart dail. Hi gips, This should not be happening at all... Can you please send our support an email with these details also your account details? Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 3pm AEST
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I have experienced this several times... At times when I dial the smart dail number after a while a voice prompt from optus says "optus wishes to advice this number has been disconnected" I get this message when I dial a wrong SmartDial number. Eg: if the SmartDial number assigned to the destination was 0289898501 and I dialled 0289898510 (when the latter number is not assigned to anyone). I am pretty certain that each time I got that message, I had dialed a wrong SmartDial number. Then if I dail the pennytel pilot number and enter the destination number after while it says "the contry you are calling is congested" or there is not sound In 95% of the instances I have got this message when I have dialed a wrong number after the pilot number. However in rare occasions I have got this message when the correct number was dialed... and it may be that the network really had congestion. Hope this has been helpful Gips... |
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errrr huh? If your asking if the new PennySIM plan needs data to make the 5c SMS's the answer is no, you do not need data. Its ok I worked it out....I have to have voice Shame we have to wait so long to change plans I now have to top up my virgin prepaid as I have to wait another 4 weeks to get the new 13.88 plan....grrrrr |
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Thanks for thoughts Polariz, I am pretty certain that each time I got that message, I had dialed a wrong SmartDial number This is not the case in mine as the smart dial numbers have been functional and the problem and the problem is sporadic. In 95% of the instances I have got this message when I have dialed a wrong number after the pilot number. I use a card dailer and I use my phone address book to direclty import the numbers, so the number is correct. |
posted 2009-Jul-1, 4pm AEST
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pt, when do we get our June statements (invoices) |
posted 2009-Jul-2, 4pm AEST
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Got them today thanks.... |
posted 2009-Jul-4, 10am AEST
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So is anyone else having problems with smartdail? At times when I dail the number instead of the call connecting get an message "optus wishes to advice that the number you have called has been disconnected", occasionally the number will connect as per normal. Don't know whats happening but I am guessing its a pennytel problem. I have emailed pt but no luck yet |
posted 2009-Jul-4, 9pm AEST
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So is anyone else having problems with smartdail? what is the advantage of smartdial compare manually dial the number? |
posted 2009-Jul-4, 11pm AEST
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what is the advantage of smartdial compare manually dial the number? Cost of the call From PennySIM call to smart dial numbers are free (they are pennytel numbers) |
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= a 3 minute call on your mobile is 56c = on smart dial its 24c |
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what is the advantage of smartdial compare manually dial the number? Depends on whether you are asking about using 1). Pilot Number: This can be any phone service that you use. |
posted 2009-Jul-5, 11am AEST
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Has anyone been able to update their plan yet from the $8 to $13.88 I have just tried and its blocked when you click the final update button. |
posted 2009-Jul-5, 12pm AEST
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"Has anyone been able to update their plan yet from the $8 to $13.88" I just did it and it appeared OK, with a message saying my request was submitted. |
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no I got a silly error message....There is an error sending your request....I will have another go EDIT...its telling me my sim is not active I just spoke to my wife on my phone....ha ha |
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"Has anyone been able to update their plan yet from the $8 to $13.88" Yes we did it on 2nd July, and it worked. We even received a message from support on Friday to say it had been activated. |
posted 2009-Jul-5, 8pm AEST
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Thanks....when do the 5c text start immediately or after you next billing period ? |
posted 2009-Jul-5, 8pm AEST
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I'm getting the "the country you are calling is currently congested" message when trying to use SmartDial to call a US mobile (not sure which network there) right now? |
posted 2009-Jul-5, 11pm AEST
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I'm getting the "the country you are calling is currently congested" message when trying to use SmartDial to call a US mobile (not sure which network there) right now? Think it might be a pennytel issue I have been getting that message for a while, calling landlines US, cell phones US, landlines NZ and cell phone NZ. If you keep on trying on and on, the call does go through in the end. In my case at times the optus message says the "optus advises the number you are calling has been disconnected..." Just a thought but is it possible that a large number of people are already connected to the smartdail number we are trying to use, hence it knocks us off saying the number has been disconnected! |
posted 2009-Jul-6, 12am AEST
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Think it might be a pennytel issue I have been getting that message for a while, calling landlines US, cell phones US, landlines NZ and cell phone NZ. If you keep on trying on and on, the call does go through in the end. In my case at times the optus message says the "optus advises the number you are calling has been disconnected..." I got both of those messages – the "country congested" one and also the "Optus advises disconnected" one. And I was dialling exactly the same number! I've lodged a support ticket about it (Pennytel reps: if you're interested, it's #NHP-149611). |
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I got both of those messages So do I! Lets hope pt can help us with this soon. My support ticket is: Ticket ID: KBI-949811 Thanks,. |
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Well I had a premonition that cancelling my 2 PT SIMs obtained under the 2 month promo would not happen smoothly. My frustration with PT support continues. I eventually got a reply, but they had totally misunderstood my request. They told me I had received a refund at the end of my previous billing cycle (June 27) but that was for the second month of the 2 month promo for 2 SIMs. However I had already requested a cancellation of those 2 SIMs 3 days before the end of the cycle – as they had told me to do – and they sent confirmation that the cancellation was in progress on June 26 (2 days after my request), but I still got charged on June 27 for the next month of use of the 2 SIMs. That is what I asked to be refunded. I still have one active PSIM service and in the meantime – giving PT the benefit of the doubt that they will fix this up – I ordered a port of my other mobile number currently with Exetel (that's another story) to PT. So I am a loyal customer bringing additional business to PT, and therefore am expecting a proper resolution. I'll give them one more day before I start whimming our PT folk on WP. |
posted 2009-Jul-6, 10am AEST
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Yes we did it on 2nd July, and it worked. We even received a message from support on Friday to say it had been activated. This could prove to be a trap. There have been repeated statements from PT in here that the upgrade and therefore the cheaper/uncharged SMSs wil not start until the first day of your next billing cycle. Of course you will not know that you have been charged for SMSs to other PennySIMs ar that you have been paying full price for SMSs to other phones for up to 14 days later, as usage data from Optus only gets listed in your account pages once a week. Check your billing cycle date by logging into your account, go to the profiles page and look at the box top-right. It would be a good idea not to send large numbers of SMS before this date. |
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do the 5c text start immediately or after you next billing period ? As above, your next billing period, according to a number of PT posts in this thread (and the PT announcement thread) |
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Wrong charges: Can somebody at PT please take care of this [#VTZ-778044] ticket ID. You tried to charge me about $ 600 for a SimCard I do not own. Problem here is that this money you have deducted is not my money and the people owning the money might sue you, so please hurry up... Bye, bye. |
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PT support services need alot of work on. I have been having problems with smart dail, when I dial the smart dail number it says "optus wishes to advise the number you called has been disconnected.." after multiple attempts the call may go through at other times the message says "the network is congested" So I sent support request to PT, detailing multiple smart dail numbers mapped to both landline and cellphone numbers in US, NZ. I clearly stated which smart dail numbers was mapped to what number eg US cell. Also stated clearly what the recorded messages where. So on one mail PT supports askes for what the error message was (already stated on email) , after I give them that they email and ask me if I checked with anyone who I called if their service had issues at their end. (I stated on email problem has been occuring for a few weeks to cellphones, landlines, US, NZ, surely one can work out that phone services can not be down to in multiple countries at the same time for a week. I had clearly indicated the different landline and cell phone smartdail numbers I had tried in those countries. If PT support would read the support request properly might not need to waste time sending so many emailes and waiting for response. Sorry to go on but at all impressed!! |
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I had this, I turned everything off and back on it was ok. perhaps there is congestion now with the smart dial numbers, who knows. Pt I still can't upgrade as it states in my profile.......yet I use my phone all the time. SIM Information |
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I lodged a ticket about it last night and was told that the problem had been resolved. I haven't had a need to make further calls, so can't say that it has. If you are still having problems, please lodge a support ticket with support@pennytel.com with details of what times you called, which numbers you were calling, how you did it (through SmartDial, etc.), and the exact error messages that you hear). It's this way that Pennytel will know there's a problem and have enough cases to be able to diagnose the problem and fix it. |
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If you are still having problems, please lodge a support ticket with support@pennytel.com with details of what times you called Thanks BearDoc, |
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Have lodged support ticket with those details, I was told the problem was solved about 5 days ago but still isn't. I look forward to you feedback if the problem is solved in your case or not. I would suggest replying to their email suggesting that it is fixed with new evidence (i.e. times of calls and the call destination, all over again) – if you provide this, they've got a much better idea of how to fix it. If I get any more, I'll be doing the same. |
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This could prove to be a trap. There have been repeated statements from PT in here that the upgrade and therefore the cheaper/uncharged SMSs wil not start until the first day of your next billing cycle. yes I'm just lucky with this one... my next billing started on the 5th July, but I'll be very careful with the SMS's until the next bill comes up showing the reduced charges.... |
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I'm confused about my billing cycle its supposed to be at the end of every month but today the charged me $8 for my sim so what date is my actual billing date |
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I'll give them one more day before I start whimming our PT folk on WP. Jim and Jocelyn, was very pleased to see a credit for $16.00 on my account this morning. Many thanks for getting that organised. Only thing is that these 2 SIMs now have No Service but are not showing cancelled on the My Orders page. Will that happen soon? Don't want to get charged for them again this month! |
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so what date is my actual billing date Check your billing cycle date by logging into your account, go to the profiles page and look at the box top-right. |
posted 2009-Jul-7, 10am AEST
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I got both of those messages – the "country congested" one and also the "Optus advises disconnected" one. And I was dialling exactly the same number! Hi Everyone, Our engineers are keeping a close eye on this issue, if you are having any problems just send support an email. Also please make sure that your smartdial is setup correctly if you are getting a message like this. Thank you, |
posted 2009-Jul-7, 10am AEST
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Only thing is that these 2 SIMs now have No Service but are not showing cancelled on the My Orders page. Will that happen soon? This will be 'refreshed' on your next billing cycle. So don't worry you wont be charged. Regards, |
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User #93188 579 posts
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How is that caller ID pass through coming along? |
posted 2009-Jul-7, 11am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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How is that caller ID pass through coming along? I hope it's not too much longer either.... |
posted 2009-Jul-7, 1pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Jim, I sent you an e-mail about my pt sim its not activated in my account and I can't upgrade to the $13.88 plan but but I can make calls......Can you please look at this for me as I would like to upgrade a.s.a.p.....thanks. Oh are you charging me for the sim ? I think you better have a look.... |
posted 2009-Jul-7, 8pm AEST
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Hi i ordered my pennysim on the 3rd of july..the order status shows "FOR VERIFICATION". No money has been charged on my credit card yet.How long do you think it wil take to get the pennysim? |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 4am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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thanks thirdronnie...but when I go into my account then profiles but cant see the little box.....is it the statement box ? no actual box giving me a date just invoice date |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 7am AEST
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User #103533 236 posts
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Account: This box on the RHS in profile – Bill |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 8am AEST
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User #18022 362 posts
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isn't the Billing Cycle for the voip and pennysim different... well thats what the pennysim support person told me when i called to ask... |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 8am AEST
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Oh are you charging me for the sim ? I think you better have a look.... If you have already made the request via the new PennySIM page then it will take effect on your next billing cycle. To be sure you can email support so they can check for you. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 9am AEST
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the order status shows "FOR VERIFICATION" Hi kjb54, This message means that you have not yet verified your cc details on your account. Once this is done the oder will be processed automatically. Thank you, |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 9am AEST
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User #183640 61 posts
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Of course you will not know that you have been charged for SMSs to other PennySIMs ar that you have been paying full price for SMSs to other phones for up to 14 days later, as usage data from Optus only gets listed in your account pages once a week. Billing last night now shows my SMS messages at 5c each and FREE to the other PT SIMS we have ... so the activation message was correct and now we are getting really cheap messages directly from the PT SIMs. |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 10am AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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As mentioned it will be very soon, we were hopeing it would be ready today Regarding the CID passthrough. Its been a long day!! Take your time though and get it right. |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 10am AEST
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User #233832 189 posts
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same here 5c sms showing on billing even though my cycle is the 21st! obviously Jim pulled some strings – GREAT WORK! |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 11am AEST
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HI jim infact i have already been charged a small amount on my credit card for verification.and i did enter the amount on the verification page.Does that mean its already verified or is there any further verification? |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 1pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Jim, I cant make the request via my account section to upgrade as THEE SIM IS NOT ACTIVE IN MY ACCOUNT SECTION.....how many times do I have to tell someone in Pennytel. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I have been asking for 5 days now whats wrong with you people can't you read e-mails correctly. MY SIM IS NOT ACTIVE IN MY ACCOUNT SECTION SO I CANT UPGRADE. Please can someone in pt, log in as me and try or at least have a look |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 5pm AEST
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Well, it looks like if you request a service you get a notification back from Pennytel allowing them 3-5 business days to activate the service. This has to be a joke yeah! 3-5 business days to activate a service.... You've got to be kidding! This is certainly not the way things should go and is unacceptable. It then says that you will be notified when the service is or has been activated. Under the "My Pennysims" section I wanted to consult with Pennytel that some of my features were already activated on my sim, however, the relevant features were showing inactive on the website. Tonight I receive an email that these features have now been activated as per my request and to allow 3-5 business days for activation. Helloooo, they were already ACTIVE. I just wanted to see why they weren't showing ACTIVE in the account portal. SUPPORT REALLY DOESN'T READ THEIR EMAILS PROPERLY. SOMEONE NEEDS A KICK UP THEIR BACKSIDE. |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 6pm AEST
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the phone is working ok and I can make calls, but its not active in my account so I cant up grade it states inactive sim. all I really want to is upgrade but its be coming so hard... |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 7pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Account: Thanks for your help I thought I was going nuts..... Have....Account Details Account: |
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User #189799 220 posts
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Tonight I receive an email that these features have now been activated as per my request and to allow 3-5 business days for activation lol I asked for mms to be activated on my partners penny sim over 2 months ago after numerous requests, support email and even phone call from pt, it still is not active. I used to get that generic response features have now been activated as per my request and to allow 3-5 business days for activation. Anyway I have given up on that now just happy with being able to make calls |
posted 2009-Jul-8, 8pm AEST
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Anyway I have given up on that now just happy with being able to make calls + 1 |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 7am AEST
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User #26557 36 posts
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Ho do I port my number? |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9am AEST
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User #26557 36 posts
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Sending SMS from the iPhone app works fine, but it shows as sent from "pennytel" on the other party's phone. I went to settings and chose my pennysim number to be shown to no avail. anyone knows how to fix this? Cheers |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9am AEST
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User #24977 141 posts
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SUPPORT REALLY DOESN'T READ THEIR EMAILS PROPERLY. SOMEONE NEEDS A KICK UP THEIR BACKSIDE. I can confirm, they often ask me for details I have already provided in the email requesting help. Then I quote the message and say, if you read further down I put my mobile number service number etc.. on the email. Quite frustrating, I've found support is better on Whirlpool from their reps as the drones answering the ticketed email just don't seem to read the email. They read your question but not your supporting or assisting information and look for a way to delay assisting you. Makes you as a customer feel like it's all too hard and frankly although I use Pennytel because the product is cheap and works I rarely recommend it to people because I know you have to be lucky to get reasonable support via their proper channels. The people who answer the tickets are not in the same league as the people who answer questions on this forum. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9am AEST
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User #99852 33 posts
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The people who answer the tickets are not in the same league as the people who answer questions on this forum. You are dead right I have gone through hell in the last week trying to get sense from PT emails & Live Chat with no help to me. Before I got my Sim Card there were no charges under Non-Call Charges as I am on the free plan. Can anybody work out what the following charges mean? these following charges do not have my call charges included as the call charges aren in plain English & I can follow but the following charges I cant follow can somebody help me. Non-Call Charges for June 2009 Non-Call Charges for May 2009 Non-Call Charges for April 2009 Non-Call Charges for March 2009 Who can help me please. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 1pm AEST
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2009-06-24 04:46:54 0466006118 (VC8) M090624FU 8.00 This is your monthly fee for your sim and is pretty simple. The price dropped so that is why the amount is different. 2009-06-14 17:36:17 0466006118 VOICE78600 2505-2905 0.62 I'm not 100% on these, but I assume they are the Optus charges for calls made directly on your SIM not using VOIP. I just figured that our from adding up those charges and looking at the PennyTelSIM calls on the website. They seem to match, but I suspect Optus send batches of billing information through and the charges are made in batches as well. So they are essentially totals for a bunch of calls but no idea which ones. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. 2009-04-14 11:11:49 PTSIM CHARGES 079C0 30MAR-01APR 0.00 These are the same thing, but I think they have just started using a new label/name for it on their invoices. I suspect to allow them to match it up easier to what they get from Optus, but really have no idea on the reason. Those are my educated guesses, but of course someone may know more than I do so an official explanation would be better from someone at PennyTel. Please do correct me if I'm wrong because I would to like to know if I've assumed incorrectly. Edit: typo |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 1pm AEST
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User #60449 1711 posts
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This is your monthly fee for your sim and is pretty simple. The price dropped so that is why the amount is different. It's a bit rough though, in April it's described as a Penny Sim and the in May & June it's called a VC8! |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 2pm AEST
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Those are my educated guesses, but of course someone may know more than I do so an official explanation would be better from someone at PennyTel. Please do correct me if I'm wrong because I would to like to know if I've assumed incorrectly. Thanks for your help I will try to study the account more I am very confused as I thought NON-CALL would only have PT SIM at $8 a month last month was $47.28 for NON-Calls and cant seem to find Opyus calls that make up even close to that amount. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 2pm AEST
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User #20115 4347 posts
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Ho do I port my number? OK, you need to request a "Port" when you setup your PTSIM, you can't port a number to existing SIM. You will need to write to ptsim@pennytel.com and request that they cancel your existing SIM and port the number you want to port onto a new SIM. You will need to provide: 1). Your current provider PT Will send you a new SIM and at the same time will send you an email advising the date and approximate time that the number will be ported. Then you simply take the number SIM and insert it into your phone. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 3pm AEST
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User #127027 130 posts
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I had several concurent issues with the billing, and they have now all been solved. Just hold tight guys, PT aren't trying to rip us off and there are bound to be teething problems for a while. If all else fails, you can always call and say that you will claim a disputed transaction with your credit card company (make 100% sure that you are right and you know exactly what you should be charged before doing this of course). I did that and got immediate call back attention from someone at PT with very good communication skills. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 5pm AEST
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User #115727 1012 posts
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I'm not 100% on these, but I assume they are the Optus charges for calls made directly on your SIM not using VOIP. With my bill the date range given corresponds reasonably well with the optus PennySIM call + SMS made. Note they appear to have changed the way they display the date |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9pm AEST
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User #237788 230 posts
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Guys what ever messages you want to blast back at me I am happy to take it but at this stage PTSim SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Last month I complained that my wife phone got disconnected after using for 2 months on PTSim Jocelyn acted immediately and got it up v.quickly appreciated. Now again today afternoon it got disconnected I got nearly all my family and friends connected to PTSim and now will have to ask them to get out of PTSim and go other provider. Can PT deliver what they say???? Problem Problem Problem...It should be rather ProblemTel aaah nice name isn't it? Some one calls them and say don't pass CND and they stopped something which was working now some one must have called asking them to switch off couple of people basic services and so they must have try to obliged by switching off mobile service |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9pm AEST
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User #115727 1012 posts
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Anyone know how long it takes to add data plan to an existing PennySIM (on the $8 voice plan)? Would like to have it next week. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9pm AEST
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User #50112 930 posts
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Anyone know how long it takes to add data plan to an existing PennySIM (on the $8 voice plan)? I odered online on a Thursday and it was active the next week about Wednesday. Worked without problem. |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 9pm AEST
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Anyone know how long it takes to add data plan to an existing PennySIM (on the $8 voice plan)? I ordered mine on Monday and it was active on Wednesday |
posted 2009-Jul-9, 11pm AEST
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User #24977 141 posts
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Anyone know how long it takes to add data plan to an existing PennySIM (on the $8 voice plan)? Would like to have it next week. I ordered mine a week ago and they told me it will not happen until my next bill cycle, I would love to have it sooner. Can anyone confirm, do you have to wait to your next billing cycle? Or can it be done quicker? |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 12pm AEST
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User #168811 346 posts
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Can anyone confirm, do you have to wait to your next billing cycle? They seem to have brought this in recently, perhaps in response to the bogans who were chopping and changing plan several times a month. Looks like we all suffer the inconvenience thanks to their ignorance and inconsideration of others. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 2pm AEST
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User #50112 930 posts
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I ordered mine a week ago and they told me it will not happen until my next bill cycle, I would love to have it sooner. I got the email confirming I ordered mine on 01/07 and I got the email that it was active on 03/07. They seem to have brought this in recently, perhaps in response to the bogans who were chopping and changing plan several times a month. Looks like we all suffer the inconvenience thanks to their ignorance and inconsideration of others. Sadly you may be correct. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 3pm AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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Looks like we all suffer the inconvenience thanks to their ignorance and inconsideration of others. There was an issue where a bunch of people would keep changing data plans up and up and down and down each moth depending on how much they used in order to avoid excess usage charges. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 3pm AEST
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User #93188 579 posts
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Also, are the PennyTel reps in hiding? There are some un-answered questions here like the caller id stuff etc. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 3pm AEST
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posted 2009-Jul-10, 3pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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.... (not appropriate what I posted). Just really hoping this CID passthrough is going to happen "soon". Please. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 4pm AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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I have just been to the smart dial page to add another smartdial number. Now it gives a list of the smartdial numbers that are still available rather than all of them. Nice touch. |
posted 2009-Jul-10, 7pm AEST
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User #13453 225 posts
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I just looked at the new pennytel webpage part where you can change services on your pennySIM, it says the excess data on the 500 / 1000 / 2000mb plans is only 8c/mb ? is this correct. Also, I cant see the casual plan listed anywhere, is this 8c/mb, or is it still the 0.5c/kb ? Thanks Ben |
posted 2009-Jul-11, 8am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Thanks Edward for fixing up my sim problem, I have now upgraded.... |
posted 2009-Jul-11, 4pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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where is Jocelyn ? hope she has not left pt |
posted 2009-Jul-13, 9pm AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Just really hoping this CID passthrough is going to happen "soon". Still waiting – another week now! |
posted 2009-Jul-14, 10am AEST
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User #223668 399 posts
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Amongst many questions I wish to ask is a confusing bill in the last few months under Non-Call Charges which I asume is for equipment / Sim Cards / & any charges that are not connected to Call Charges. Hi Charger8, It may be a little confusing but there are seperate sections now 'Call Detail Records' are for your VoIP calls (including smartdial) 'Penny SIM Details' are calls directly from the SIM (including data and SMS's) If you add both of these it will equate to the payments area including the monthly fees. I will ask your billing guys to make the descriptions a little more easy to understand but something like 'VOICE78600 2505-2905' are call charges between the 25th of May until the 29th of May. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-14, 11am AEST
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User #223668 399 posts
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but it shows as sent from "pennytel" on the other party's phone. If you log into your account and setup your caller ID it will show from your phone and not from PennyTel. This can be done on the Profile page. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-14, 11am AEST
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I ordered my pennysim and even verified my credit card.but my order status still shows FOR VERIFICATION, does any1 know wats going on?? Just shoot an email over to our PennySIM team and they will check on your order. Thanks, |
posted 2009-Jul-14, 11am AEST
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Just really hoping this CID passthrough is going to happen "soon". Ill try to get an update for you all, I know it has been worked on so im not too sure what the hold up is. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-14, 11am AEST
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User #73390 1116 posts
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Ill try to get an update for you all not too sure what the hold up is. Great, thanks Jim. Really looking forward to this CID passthrough being implemented.... |
posted 2009-Jul-15, 8am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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pt, there is only one DID's available in Queensland all other states seem ok but when you login using a Qld. account there is only one there. not complaining just trying to help. |
posted 2009-Jul-15, 10am AEST
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I decided to take the plunge and ported to PennySIM I am waiting as well for my port – mind telling me how long it took for the port to happen – Bill |
posted 2009-Jul-15, 10am AEST
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Dear Bill, We acknowledge the receipt of your service request below. Service: VOICEPLAN8 Please allow 3-5 business days for us to complete your request. You will be notified after your request is completed Thank you for choosing PennyTel, Well I have allowed the time and rang to-day and got told the date will be on the 22nd. |
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User #92094 7368 posts
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After reading the whole 36 pages I still have a couple of basic questions: The PTSIM operates over the Optus 3G network on the 900/2100 UTMS band...yes? Early next year my phone will spend a couple of months in Europe and the USA. Is there any complications in dropping in other sims and will the phone "just work" or will the PT apps just get in the way? Still a lot to learn! |
posted 2009-Jul-15, 2pm AEST
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User #80128 112 posts
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The PTSIM operates over the Optus 3G network on the 900/2100 UTMS band...yes? YES :) its like a normal optus mobile. Is there any complications in dropping in other sims and will the phone "just work" or will the PT apps just get in the way? No the PT app will not get in the way – unless you open it then it really is not in the way. Yah 100 posts !!!!!!! |
posted 2009-Jul-15, 4pm AEST
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Early next year my phone will spend a couple of months in Europe and the USA. Sorry, but I just want to make clear, that you need a different SIM card for every country in Europe you are traveling through, otherwise you need to roam, and ... the last time I looked it up, you need a different SIMCard for nearly every (bigger) "city" in the US, because they have many different networks, with different coverages. It is not as simple as in Australia... Bye, bye. |
posted 2009-Jul-16, 11am AEST
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User #50112 930 posts
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you need a different SIM card for every country in Europe you are traveling through I agree that in Europe and US it is not as easy as in Australia. My son spent 2 months in 7 or 8 EU contries over the last northern winter. He used a prepaid Estonian SIM card from TravelSIM http://travelsim.net.au/ You can look up the call costs on the web page but the convenienve of having one SIM was not too expensive. It was about 30 cents a minute to call him through Pennytel and we didn't have to know which country he was in. TravelSIM also let us send him free SMSs from their website whcih was very convenient. I spent a little time in the US earlier this year and found that AT&Ts GoPhone prepaid worked well for me in the cities I was in. All of us travelling together had them and so calls between us and any other AT&T phone were free. Calls to and from landlines and mobiles in the US were 10 cents per minute. Pennytel have a local smartdial number in the US which meant we could connect to the Pennytel service for 10 cents per minute and then standard Pennytel rates. AT&T have most major cities covered and you can check if it works where you want to be. We paid a bit more for the convenience of simplicity and were lucky that we didn't go out of range. In the US I used my four frequency nextG Telstra phone which covered all the GSM frequencies I needed. Hope that helps. S. |
posted 2009-Jul-16, 2pm AEST
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guys i must have missed something and someone correct me if i am wrong but has the cost of sms over the mobile network gone up? 2009-07-03 11:59:56 040xxxxx VOICE130557 2806-2906 -0.23 and now 2009-07-07 14:10:36 040xxxxxx VOICE156340 0107-0407 -0.25 |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 8am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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no its now got G.S.T included in the price. |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 9am AEST
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I agree that in Europe and US it is not as easy as in Australia. Thanks for the update. I haven't looked at that for years... |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 10am AEST
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Maybe you already have looked this up, or you are just traveling through a few cities/countries, Thanks SMARTbyte... PennyTel have suggested that "management" are investigating European options ...but I won't hold my breath on that one. The Spain part will have to include data as well, so if anyone has any pointers it will help. |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 11am AEST
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Just want to commend PTSIM support team for arranging my port to occur exactly at the scheduled time (to the minute) despite some delays in my providing information about the other carrier. Also, had a very rapid response to a question on Smartdial activation. I got a call back from support literally within minutes of me submitting my question. Great work. |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 11am AEST
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So I now have a separate DID with Pennytel on a separate account for voicemail for my PennySIM. Previously I had all diversions on my PennySIM cancelled, but now I want to set it up to divert to my DID if my phone is busy, out of range, or does not answer in 30 seconds. Does setting it up via your phone's "Divert" Menu (I have a Nokia E71) sufficiently divert, or is it more reliable to have it set up through Pennytel/Optus directly? And can someone again confirm that the diversions to the Pennytel DID are free? |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 3pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Its a shame they can't make the voice mail part free like Virgin....does anyone use the p.t voice mail ? I use to divert mine to Virgin but don't want to walk around with 2 phones anymore....so currently don't use anything. |
posted 2009-Jul-17, 5pm AEST
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Is anyone else experiencing random errors or failures of simcard registration with their Pennysims. I had an issue about 4 weeks ago with it to the point that I had to get a new simcard, which Jim kindly organised. The new card has been working fine up until today and again is starting to exhibit the same errors that slowly crept in with the first card. Basically it randomly comes up with "simcard registration failed". It gets worse and worse to the point where I have to restart the phone to get reception again. Very strange – the phone has not been dropped etc. |
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Also Jim has been very quiet indeed about the CID Smartdial passthrough. I am beginning to think that it may not happen...... I live in hope that "soon" will be SOON. |
posted 2009-Jul-18, 8am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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yes scrag I did.... What I did was cancel my sim number in my account then add it back in you know the part where you have to get the Pennytel conformation message on your phone. Hope this will help you. |
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Does setting it up via your phone's "Divert" Menu (I have a Nokia E71) sufficiently divert, or is it more reliable to have it set up through Pennytel/Optus directly? I don't know about the Nokia E71, but I think those menus send the codes to Optus/PennyTel anyway, to tell them where to divert. So it shouldn't be a problem – but you can test it by calling it with your phone on, and not answering, and then turn your phone off and try calling again. If it works when the phone is turned off, then it is Optus who is doing the diversion :) And can someone again confirm that the diversions to the Pennytel DID are free? Yes, its free. |
posted 2009-Jul-18, 9am AEST
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Does setting it up via your phone's "Divert" Menu (I have a Nokia E71) sufficiently divert, or is it more reliable to have it set up through Pennytel/Optus directly? I did it this way: (copied from another thread, sorry I didn't record the original author's id) "**61*+XXXXXXXXXXX**20# (Then press call) where X = a PennyTel DID in International format and where the first 61 is the "no answer" divert code (see below for more codes). Divert Codes: The 20 wouldn't be required for anything other than for Code 61 (no answer) for obvious reasons." And can someone again confirm that the diversions to the Pennytel DID are free? I've not been charged for them, but since I'm not a pennytel rep, I can't confirm that officially. |
posted 2009-Jul-18, 10am AEST
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I did it this way: Thank you for this – I'll be testing this out today, as it needs to be ready by tomorrow where I'll be needing a functioning voicemail for a new job! Much appreciated. |
posted 2009-Jul-19, 6am AEST
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I'll be needing a functioning voicemail for a new job! Hey BearDoc.... Here is another option for using Optus voicemail – I do it this way to get the reliability of Optus voicemail and to get the SMS advising voicemail has been left. |
posted 2009-Jul-20, 8am AEST
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Smartdial CID passthrough – try again for this week hopefully! |
posted 2009-Jul-20, 8am AEST
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Is there any reason why we can't cancel services for any Pennysim from the website? What's the point having the option if we we are unable to use it? |
posted 2009-Jul-20, 9am AEST
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Hey there, any updates on data-splitting sims or caller id pass through? |
posted 2009-Jul-23, 4pm AEST
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caller id pass through Well, I was advised that the CID Smartdial passthrough was going to be made available yesterday. Nothing as yet! No idea what the hold up is. If it's not available "soon" then I'm going over TPG. "Soon" was over three weeks ago now (01/07/09). I don't like being inconvenienced when I have been told something will be ready. CID Smartdial passthrough should have been made available right from the start, and if it was, then it should never have been turned off. I'm getting annoyed, really annoyed with broken promises.... |
posted 2009-Jul-23, 5pm AEST
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caller id pass through But if you see it the other way around, what should they have done? Just be happy, that they promised they are changing that! Don't expect big steps from PT, it's just a small company / kind of spin-off of Hitec Telecom.... (which of course they do not advertise..) ... but yes your are right this function can't be that complicated to realize, and they should finally enable it. I am waiting impatiently too... |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 7am AEST
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I am waiting impatiently too... And the wait is over. Sorry for the delay but our developers wanted to get things right so there would not be any issues. After much testing we have released the caller ID section for the Smart Dial service. Log into your account and click on the 'Smart Dial' button. You will see that we have not just added caller ID but a few other features. Play around and enjoy. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 10am AEST
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Great work – thanks – only problem is it overwrites my current smart dial no's and will have to re-enter them – no big deal – Bill |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 10am AEST
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Log into your account and click on the 'Smart Dial' button. You will see that we have not just added caller ID but a few other features. Play around and enjoy. Did that and it starts to Sync (not sure what it is syncing to what) and then comes up with an error "There is an error syncing your smart dial settings. Please try again later". The thirty or 40 numbers I entered manually and alligned with the numbers manually entered in to the phone are no longer there. Play around and enjoy. As a number of my stored numbers are in other time zones and a previous problem with smartdial caused it to ring someone and wake them at 3.30am I'll go back to using the pilot number for now. S. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 11am AEST
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The thirty or 40 numbers I entered manually and alligned with the numbers manually entered in to the phone are no longer there. I lost all my smartdial numbers as well! |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 11am AEST
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Did that and it starts to Sync (not sure what it is syncing to what) When I logon SmartDial does that to me as well, the thing is I do not have any SmartDial numbers to sync. I look after 7 SIM Accounts and 2 VoIP accounts and the "Sync" is happening on all accounts. What exactly is the Sync designed to Sync to? I need to know so that I can backup what ever it might wipe out. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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My smartdial numbers dissapeared, but they still seem to work. Do we have to go and setup all our smart dial numbers again, for each phone number now ? Ben |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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I lost all my smartdial numbers as well! Hi, make sure your number is in the 'My Number' section and then try adding another number in the Smart Dial list. The list should then sync with your current Smart Dial contacts. Jim. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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Do we have to go and setup all our smart dial numbers again, for each phone number now ? When adding more numbers you have the option to copy the settings from another number, this means you can copy the Smart Dial list so you don't have to set up another list if you use the same Smart Dial list. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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just added caller ID but a few other features. Play around and enjoy. Very cool, Jim !!!! Love your developers work. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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What exactly is the Sync designed to Sync to? I need to know so that I can backup what ever it might wipe out. Its trying to sync to your current Smart Dial list. Don't be alarmed it's still there but for whatever reason its not showing until you add another Smart Dial number, the developers are looking into this. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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sweet, works great ! This combined with ColbySMS means I can send sms messages for 5c, make cheap smartdial calls, and to everyone else, it just shows up as my normal numbers ! Ben |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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Awesome. Thanks so much Jim, this is fantastic – finally!! You've done very well and I guess it's better to get it done properly than half done with changes.... Apologies for my rant but I was getting frustrated.... |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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Thanks Pennytel for such a wonderful feature. Hoping for lots of new innovative features in near future. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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Does the caller number passthough only work on numbers setup in the smart dial lists, or does it also work when using the pilot number ? if not, what number will come up when using the pilot number ? Thanks Ben |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
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Unfortunately.... I have two PennySIMs on my account. Went in and updated the CLI on the first one and it went through without a problem. I am not having the problem of the disappearing SmartDial numbers, they all seem to be there. Brought up my second PennySim number, the SD numbers synced. Tried to update CLI, got error message. Have tried logging out and back in again but get the error message on the second PSIM number every time. Any clues? |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
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Does the caller number passthough only work on numbers setup in the smart dial lists, or does it also work when using the pilot number ? It works with both Smart Dial numbers and the pilot number. Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
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Its trying to sync to your current Smart Dial list. I don't use SmartDial, so I am unsure where this list is stored. As I said I manage 7 X SIMS and 2 X VoIP accounts and do not use SmartDial so whether or not is works doesn't bother me. I jut don't want it to mess up anything on my computer is all. Perhaps the Sync process should first check that there are numbers to sync, before attempting to do so. This would reduce remove the errors that people get when they don't use SmartDial. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
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I'm not sure what it's doing on the back end, but it's possible that people misunderstand what it's doing. When you change the number in the callerid field it says its 'synching' but i think all it does is downloads all the smart dial numbers for that number to display them in your browser. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
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Hi, my smartdial list is back, but I cannot remove number from the list? |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
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edited....I got fed up with pt |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 3pm AEST
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Maybe I am dumb, blind, stupid, ignorant or allof these but I can't actually work out how to order a PTSim. I go to the PTSim page: Order a PTSim. What am I missing? |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 3pm AEST
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not sure do you have to pick a pt sim number ? |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 3pm AEST
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Click on PTSIM and it takes me to "my PTSim numbers...I don't have any PTSim numbers, but I do want to get one. After this step: Do you want to use an existing account: Yes > login . OK You should come to a page that asks you to fill out your details. Can you try again and let me know if its ok now? I just checked and all looks fine? Regards, |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 4pm AEST
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You should come to a page that asks you to fill out your details. Can you try again and let me know if its ok now? I just checked and all looks fine? Thanks Jim, I use RoboForm for automated logins which is absolutely fantastic for the seemingly 100's of different login screens I come in contact with. To get to Step 2 of the PTSim sign up page I have to manually log in. After that, it is all pretty simple. Two PTSims and 2 data packs All I have to do now is wait for the 2 Sims...and my 2 new phones to arrive...and hope like hell that the Optus coverage here is good enough. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 4pm AEST
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Hi PT, I am a little bit scared of these new features, esp. the syncing part..., but somehow it seems to work, although somebody here mentioned, that he cannot delete numbers. That's true, because you are syncing my address book with unset numbers, so if I delete one number, it's there the next time I log in into smartdial. Not a problem, but definitely something to be scared of. But nevertheless: Well done PT! |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 5pm AEST
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Great work – thanks PennyTel |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 9pm AEST
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User #34033 587 posts
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Yes great work with separate smart dials and caller id's per pennysim. One thing I have noticed. You can no longer add a smartdial by using the address book. |
posted 2009-Jul-24, 11pm AEST
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Well done PT, this a huge step forward and I'm sure will make the service inviting to many more people. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 11am AEST
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You can no longer add a smartdial by using the address book When I add anumber to my address book it auto adds it to my smart dial list... This is much better. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 12pm AEST
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Thanks PennyTel, just what we needed – caller ID per PT SIM! Now for the next part.. caller ID passthrough for SMS through PT app? :D |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 12pm AEST
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Jim I hope I am ising this forum correctly forgive me if I am not I am an old pensioner. Jim my problem is since I purchased my PT Sim I have been receiving each month mystery charges under NON-CALL charges. In the last month or so I have had many emails to PTSuppport trying to clear up these charges and what they stand for, I even had a wim to Whirpool asking help recently not to mention the hours I have had on live Chat, I would have only expected an $8 charge each month for the penny Sim Card but keep receiving charges that have not been explained except Wirlpool suggested it could be for calls using PennySim without the Smart Dial or Pilot number whih would not be the case as I only use Smart Dial or Pilot number and only enter the number I am calling after I hear the prompt to enter the called number. To attemppt to trace the mystery call charges under NON-CALL CHARGES I started a diary of every call I make the method either Smart Dial or Pilot number I have run the diary since 15-7-09. As I have never used my PennySim without the Pilot number or Smart Dial I was shocked to find I am been charged these mystery charges whilst using Pilot Number, it is a mystery why not all Pilot numbers are charges, as some show free and other show charges, this occures on both Mobile numbers called and Landline (which I was informed would be free. The longer calls using pilot number calling Land Line seem to be the ones charges 15 minutes or longer. The charges seem to increase each Month.and no way have a single call been made without using Pilot or Smart Dial, I dont think the Smart has been faulty only Pilotr Number. Under NON-CALL CHARGES for: I enter Pilot Number 61289898800 and only then enter the number I am calling after I her the womans voice say PLEASE ENTER THE PHONE NUMBER I WISH TO REACH I have never entered a phone number unless I hear this prompt I am starting to worry if the Pilot number can be used saftely. My diary has been kept very strict stating each call that was entered after the voice prompt and I have not made a mistake here. please can you help as I feel if I am charges calls by mistake I should be refunded, what do you think Jim |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 1pm AEST
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have you verified your pt mobile number in your account and have been asked to enter the verification code ? to me it looks as if you are being charge for calls made to the smart dial number. Also calls from the smart dial number are not free most of them there is an $0.08c fee and mobiles are much higher. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 1pm AEST
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Jim my problem is since I purchased my PT Sim I have been receiving each month mystery charges under NON-CALL charges. I also was finding it hard to understand my charges under the non-call charges, I still havn't been able to account for about $10 worth of charges which I am not worried too much about as am sure I have saved more then that on calls anyway. Just a few tips regarding the non-call charges: It has your monthly charge under a desciption like ###voice Has calls made via penny sim directly on the optus network this they seem to charge as a lump sum everytime they do update of call records as reflected on the description has a date range at the end. Since the sms,mms, voicemail and voice calls are charged as a lumpsum onto the statement when pt does a call update it shows as a lumpsum on that date of x dollars. To find the breakdown you will need to look at your pennysim details sections and work out how they came to that figure for that timeframe. Hope that helps. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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When I add anumber to my address book it auto adds it to my smart dial list... This is much better The one thing I don't particularly like is it does not rearrange the smartdail entries via alphabetical order of description. So it is a challenge to find the smartdail number assigned to some contacts, I believe it is arranging the numbers via the smartdail number assigned. However a flexible option of either doing it via numbers or description would be handy. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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Just a question regarding the new sync feature. I know I can try this out and find out how it works but don't want to waste a few hours in case it goes wrong. If I again import my phone address book onto to pt website, will it only assign new smart dail numbers to new addressbook entries or will it start from scratch assigning new smart dail numbers to every entry in the addressbook reassigning the old start dailnumbers. I have already entered into my phone various smart dail numbers for various contacts so don't want to start to reenter those numbers as well. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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have you verified your pt mobile number in your account and have been asked to enter the verification code ? to me it looks as if you are being charge for calls made to the smart dial number. Yes I had to do this when I first set up my account. Yes I expect a charge of 8cents calling land line Yes I am been charged full Optus rates at random even though I have entered the Pilot number and listened to the girl saying Please enter the number I wish to call the entered the land line number I want to call. Interesting the calls that show FREE say it is made Smart Dial the numbers that I get charged many dollars for say Australia calls |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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ok, it sounds like a p.t billing problem Oh if you are phoning a mobile through the smart dial its about 11c a minute (not per call) |
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Since the sms,mms, voicemail and voice calls are charged as a lumpsum onto the statement when pt does a call update it shows as a lumpsum on that date of x dollars. Thanks I only have Voice and dont have Data or SMS It is clear although I hear the message after entering the Pilot number, there is some fault as most show on my Optus account as FREE there are many that add up to the $65. I have been very carefull to only enter the number I want to call after the message is finished. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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ok, it sounds like a p.t billing problem Thanks their billing seems to be smack on (times & Numbers are perfect) I have been working on this mystery for many weeks and hours and have come to the conclusion that some Pilot work and other times the pilot number is failing me. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
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you should only have one bill a p.t one..... did you port your number over to p.t from Optus....if you are getting an Optus bill then your number has not been ported correctly |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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ok, it sounds like a p.t billing problem I would like a rep to study my account setup to see if the problem is my account/Sim Card/phone or me. As mentioned I dont use SMS or Data I only make Voice calls. My April account was including all calls: NON CALL CHARGES were: Correct me if I am wrong NON CALL CHARGES should in my case just show $8 fro my SIM Card |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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you should only have one bill a p.t one..... Sorry I just asumed it was OPTUS as the calls in question take over a week to show up on my account for me to check them. My Pennytel calls show up instant. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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Hmmm, Charger8, this sounds like something weird is definitely going on. I must say that I have not had issues with using this method, although, I use the KillerMobile Dialer program to dial my numbers through the Pilot Number. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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try using the smart dial its easier now providing you have the numbers set up in your address book, you only have to dial the smart dial number thats all. yourr calls seem high...we run two phones plus vop for less than $50 a month |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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Sorry I just asumed it was OPTUS as the calls in question take over a week to show up on my account for me to check them. Well, if some calls are showing up after a week then those calls will have been made directly through the sim and not via VOIP. I suspect it may be a billing issue from Pennytel's end. I only say this as I was being billed voicemail retrieval rates for both deposits and retrievals. It took me a while to figure out what was going on but after I sent a request to support they were very quick to figure out what the issue was. So, it's not totally unlikely that it is a billing issue. I would hang in till Monday and whim Jim directly. He has always been most prompt with tricky issues and replies. |
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Well, if some calls are showing up after a week then those calls will have been made directly through the sim and not via VOIP. May I ask do all your calls show up imediatly after hanging up either if they are made from Smart Dial or the Pilot number calling via your Mobile using the PTSIM Card |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 3pm AEST
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do all your calls show up imediatly after hanging up The calls made via SmartDial or the Pilot Number only show up once Optus send their data to Pennytel. This generally happens once to twice a week. When the SmartDial or Pilot Number calls show up, on the PennySim statement, they show up as FREE. As I said, this only shows when Optus send the data. The VOIP component of the call shows up in the normal VOIP statement page and these show immediately after having made the call. |
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no thats wrong.....when you make a smart dial call it show immediately in your Vop settings as it goes through vop not your p.t sim.....the sim part is free. its only direct dialed numbers on your sim that you have to wait for Optus...oh and sms |
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Not wrong at all..... Your SmartDial component or the Pilot Number component DO show up in the Optus statement (PennySim Details) page whether you like it or not. These SmartDial/Pilot Number calls should come up as FREE. This happens whenever Optus send data to Pennytel The VOIP component shows up in your normal VOIP statement (Call Detail Records) immediately after the call and is charged for at VOIP rates. This is fact! |
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The calls made via SmartDial or the Pilot Number only show up once Optus send their data to Pennytel. This generally happens once to twice a week. sorry I miss understood your statement, what I was trying to point out the cost shows up immediately in your vop and there is no Optus charge....the way you worded it it looks as if you have to wait for Optus to get a cost. |
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That's ok Terryg, I forgive you.... I've edited my second post to make it a bit clearer. Geez, it's not easy explaining all this stuff in laymens terms is it? |
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thanks getting old....bugger I am old. ha ha |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 5pm AEST
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It can take a while to work it all out and its hard to explain to someone new to pt and we have had so many changes and updates etc. |
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I would like a rep to study my account setup to see if the problem is my account/Sim Card/phone or me. As mentioned I dont use SMS or Data I only make Voice calls. My April account was including all calls: NON CALL CHARGES were: Correct me if I am wrong NON CALL CHARGES should in my case just show $8 fro my SIM Card I have recently noticed being billed for voice charges from the OPTUS side in my 'payments' section for VOICE. I have sent an email to ptsim@ will wait for reply. PS. I have been using and following PTSim since its inception so i know the technical stuff. (just incase some may think it is operator error or lack of knowledge.) |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 6pm AEST
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yes it sounds like its a p.t thing so far mine is working out ok except I upgraded to the 13.88 plan but they still charge me 25c for the sms so its not be done and I know a credit will take weeks and weeks to sort out. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 6pm AEST
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Not wrong at all..... I have just made many calls as a test using the Pilot number. I asume this means I will be billed on the Optus account when I see it in about a week. This means if I go to the PT account after every pilot number I call and see it registered I know there will not be a nasty charge in a week later, on the other hand if the Pilot number called fails and not show imediatly I know I will be in for a nasy bill from Optus side when PT pass it on to me. One charge I made using the Pilot number to a 1300 call cost me $9, it took A WEEK to realise you cant make low cost calls to 1300 using the pilot number, thanks for all your help. |
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I have been very carefull to only enter the number I want to call after the message is finished. |
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call chargers are $8 for your sim card and yes I think they put on a few dollars as I have just looked at mine and it seems high but their billing is hard to follow as its supposed to be the 23 of each month but its done on a monthly cycle 30.7.09 to 31.07.09 so its always 7 days difference somewhere and perhaps that is how the fiddle the bill. |
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PS. I have been using and following PTSim since its inception so i know the technical stuff. (just incase some may think it is operator error or lack of knowledge.) Don't doubt you matwin & charger8..... Just like my voicemail deposits and retrievals were being charged at the retrieval rate I think you guys may be unlucky enough that you're being billed incorrectly for calls to the SmartDial or Pilot Numbers. After my billing issue I have ended up checking my account on a very regular basis to make sure errors do not creep in again. This has had me a little worried with the Pennysim, that one has to check all the time for no errors – at the worst every day. Hopefully Pennytel will be able to iron out errors, if they are indeed billing errors on their end. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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You are not pressing the call button after this are you? Yeah, you got a point there..... This may very well be an issue. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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You are not pressing the call button after this are you? A good point I will say it set by step as I do it and let me know if I am stuffing up. I have the Pilot number in my memory. step one: I look up my Pilot number and press send A voice invites me to add the number I wish to call. Step 2: I enter the Landline number & then press send (green Button) I have pressed the send button twice first for Pilot then finally to make the final call Is this OK or Have I stuffed up? |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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NO......NO just add the number and wait. call the pilot number wait for the voice bit, then put in the other number DON'T press any buttons. This may have been your problem...not sure. |
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NO......NO just add the number and wait. Thank you, I am furious with PT if this is the problem as I have had over 12 emails and many LIVE TALK and one on the Forum about this issue this has taken me weeks, I am still furious as I would have ironed this out almost imediatly if they did not have this 7 day delay to see the charges. Hovever Im still confused why some are charged and some are not charged and are free? Thanks a million I am an old pensioner and must go to bed see you all |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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This may have been your problem...not sure. I think that solves the issue for Charger8. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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"Don't press the send button a second time when calling via the pilot number" should be added to the PennySim wiki. Who can add a section to the wiki on how to dial successfully? |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 8pm AEST
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hat's true, because you are syncing my address book with unset numbers, so if I delete one number, it's there the next time I log in into smartdial. The new Smart Dial has a number of features that need to be explained clearly, as there are some surprises. Also the existing FAQ is no longer correct as it says you can only send 1 Caller ID if you have multiple PSIMs on an account. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 9pm AEST
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to delete your numbers from the smart dial just delete them from your address book, its a shame they don't tell anyone how to use it. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 9pm AEST
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to delete your numbers from the smart dial just delete them from your address book I wish it were that simple. I had to do a major cleanup of my Address Book (very therapeutic) and ensure all numbers were in the correct format. Deleted all my PTSIM numbers from the Smart Dial Page and then add them back one by one. |
posted 2009-Jul-25, 10pm AEST
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My numbers are just in my address book, no extra's in my smart dial I can remove or add anything but do it via my address book not the smart dial. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 8am AEST
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Don't press the send button a second time when calling via the pilot number" You just have to remember PennyTel is making the call not you,the call to pilot number is the only call you make. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 8am AEST
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I can remove or add anything Mine's fixed up now to a degree, but have you tried removing a number from the Address Book? For me, what happens is, the number remains in the Smart Dial list but without the name, then I have to remove it from the Smart Dial list using the Remove button, before it is finally gone. I think there is a reason for this, perhaps to allow you to have different Smart Dial entries for each PSIM. Also, entries added to the Address Book must be unique, which makes sense. It checks whether the phone number exists under another name. If so, it does not add the entry to the Smart Dial list. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 9am AEST
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yes its a bit silly as you say you have to delete twice. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 10am AEST
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you have to delete twice. Another 'feature' is when adding a Smart Dial number, you can first add it to the Smart Dial list if you want a particular number. You cannot add the name here of course. Then add the entry the Address Book with the same destination number, and when you re-synch Smart Dial, it gets updated with the name under the entry you added to the list. This works because Smart Dial now does a match on the destination phone number as it scans through the Address Book and Smart Dial list. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 10am AEST
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I upgraded to the 13.88 plan but they still charge me 25c for the sms so its not be done and I know a credit will take weeks and weeks to sort out Latest Optus charging data has just come in and (as I predicted) the same thing has happened to me. I've been charged for the upgraded amount of $13.88 for each PTSIM and the email said the upgrade would activate on my billing date (21st), but each and every PTSIM->PTSIM SMS sent on and since that date has been charged for at 25c. This is just totally unacceptable. The wait until the billing date was bad enough, the slow Optus usage data update is very annoying, now total failure of PT to put through the upgrade. No problem charging for it though. As Terry says, how do I even start to write a support request that will be understood by the non-english-speaking support staff who refuse to read what you write anyway? |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 1pm AEST
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yes it sounds like its a p.t thing so far mine is working out ok except I upgraded to the 13.88 plan but they still charge me 25c for the sms so its not be done and I know a credit will take weeks and weeks to sort out. Same here, except they gave a credit next day, pretty happy with the PT service :) |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 2pm AEST
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I thought I might add my bit to the discussion. I have had a very good experience with setting up Pennytel. I had bought myself a Linksys adaptor and I have an Iphone 3GS. I at first used the adaptor with Voipbusterpro – and it worked fine (untimed calls for about 4 euro cents) but the quality was pretty choppy. I signed up to pt, fairly easy and configuring the adaptor was a doodle. I signed up for the unlimited plan (regret that now – I should have chosen the 8c plan) and it all works as advertised. |
posted 2009-Jul-26, 2pm AEST
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I thought I might add my bit to the discussion. Nothing to do with pennysim and smartdial though!!!! Not to worry though I am glad you are a satified pennytel customer. I shall add though once you decide to free yourself from the ATA and get a pennysim and start making calls via smartdial from anywhere there is optus mobile coverage then you will experience another dimension of satisfaction. |
posted 2009-Jul-27, 12am AEST
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User #19471 1185 posts
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get a pennysim and start making calls via smartdial from anywhere there is optus mobile coverage then you will experience another dimension of satisfaction. +++ Yes the $8 per month is well worth it, I have been using VoIP for years and even with ADSL2 had issues, Engin was best but most expensive but still got complaints. Tried Softphones, Hardware ATA's settings but nearly twice a week people complained about quality, yes most times it was ok as long as you watched no excessive browsing or downloads while phoning but where is the fun in that especially with 4 computers in the house (hey everyone stop using the internet while I make a phone call, not cool). Since PennySIM it solved all call quality issues other than Optus coverage issues and you get to make the calls cheap wherever you are. |
posted 2009-Jul-27, 9pm AEST
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I have read as much of parts 1 to 5 of this thread, plus countless other threads, in order to find out more detail of how the smartdial will work with my Optus plan, and have now discovered, after making two very expensive calls, that when dialling the pilot number, that number keeps registered as being on the call, even after it has dialled the second number. I have a plan that allows 3 numbers free for 5 mins, and I had thought that by making the pilot one of those numbers, I would not be paying for that call, only the second one. But no! What would have been nice, was for a very clear and detailed explanation of how smartdial works — and for that matter all the other special offers, instead of having to spend hours and hours reading forums like this to get the answers. I will still be able to use smartdial, but its value for me is only for 5 minute calls. |
posted 2009-Jul-27, 11pm AEST
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I have a plan that allows 3 numbers free for 5 mins, and I had thought that by making the pilot one of those numbers, I would not be paying for that call, only the second one. But no! There is no second call, there is only one call, that is the call to the pilot number. <pilot number> pause <number you want to dial> # One Call! |
posted 2009-Jul-27, 11pm AEST
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yes the first part....the pilot number is free, you only pay for what you select to call a mobile or land line call |
posted 2009-Jul-28, 6am AEST
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I have a plan that allows 3 numbers free for 5 mins, and I had thought that by making the pilot one of those numbers, I would not be paying for that call, only the second one. But no! Not sure I follow you here. 1. Is Optus charging you for the Pilot number 02 8989 8800 before the 5 minutes? 2. You know after the Pilot number you pay PennyTel the rates based on your plan, I am sure you would expect to pay PennyTel? 3. If you are on Optus then a PennySIM would be a lot cheaper (only real option in my opinion) but perhaps you are locked into an Optus plan. I have to give credit to PennyTel you can leave anytime so $8 per month for the SIM is quite a good deal. 4. Documentation and having to do a lot of reading – No comment ;-) |
posted 2009-Jul-28, 12pm AEST
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I am not quibbling about having to pay money for calls, that is not the issue. Optus, on my plan, does not charge me for the first 5 mins to the pilot number, but does charge me for the rest of the call, as well I am being charged by Pennytel. So, if I make a 10 minute call to a mobile using the pilot number, I am charged for 5 minutes on Optus and 10 mins on Pennytel rates. If that was a 30 minute call to a mobile, it becomes very expensive, which it was for me. The only conclusion I can arrive at, is that there are two legs to the call, but only one registering call, ie., the pilot number and that takes on the rates for whatever type of call the second leg is, mobile or landline. re reading – I do not have a problem with reading for hours and hours, if i find the solution. I think though, improved documentation, would save this kind of issue from needing to happen in the first place and in my case, some expense. I am not unable to comprehend things, or lazy, in fact I am happy to do mountains of research if there is light at the end of the tunnel. I am just someone trying to take advantage of the offer that pennytel appeared to be making as a long-time Pennytel customer. |
posted 2009-Jul-28, 12pm AEST
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Optus, on my plan, does not charge me for the first 5 mins to the pilot number, but does charge me for the rest of the call, as well I am being charged by Pennytel. So, if I make a 10 minute call to a mobile using the pilot number, I am charged for 5 minutes on Optus and 10 mins on Pennytel rates. If that was a 30 minute call to a mobile, it becomes very expensive, which it was for me. Ok this is as simple as i can think to put it. There are 2 calls as follows your mobile -> pennytel and pennytel -> you destination. so in your case you get 5 min free with optus so the first leg of the call is For your plan you can only make 5min calls at pennytel rates. FOr pennytel sim the pilot number is free untimes so call leg to pennytel is alwasy free and you jsut pay for the pennytel to your destination call costs. hope that makes a little sense so call cost is |
posted 2009-Jul-28, 12pm AEST
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thankyou seer |
posted 2009-Jul-28, 1pm AEST
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I decided to take the plunge and try Pennysim – I expect to get ported sometime today. I have manually added about 40 numbers to the Smart Dial list but since the new upgrade they have disappeared. someone here suggested to add a new number and all the other numbers should appear – this did not happen for me. Cheers |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 3am AEST
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Keith from Cranbourne writes... added about 40 numbers to the Smart Dial It's probably now easier to add them to the PennyTel online Phone Book. It now automatically adds them to SmartDial. |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 7am AEST
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It now automatically adds them to SmartDial. And the point is: You can import and export them via a simple csv file... |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 8am AEST
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And the point is: You can import and export them via a simple csv file... But unfortunately, I can't seem to find the corressponding smartdial number for each phone number. :( Any idea where I can get a list of smartdial numbers and who or what they translate to? S. |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 9am AEST
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Keith from Cranbourne writes... I have manually added about 40 numbers to the Smart Dial list but since the new upgrade they have disappeared. From testing it looks like the Smart Dial is now linked to the address book. It also appears that Smart Dial numbers will not change but someone can check with the application. Upload or add contacts from the address book. Go to Smart Dial and you will see it does a Sync and links the Address book From there you get the Smart Dial numbers. Just waiting for a download and search feature, looks like they are working on search. Seems to work with the phone application also without messing the smart dial up, maybe PennyTel could comment on that as it used to scramble the numbers. Any news on future of Smart Dial? |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 10am AEST
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But unfortunately, I can't seem to find the corressponding smartdial number for each phone number. :( Yes that would be good. |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 10am AEST
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how do i call someone using smart dial? (without assigning a special number) if i want to call john smith 0401234567 from my mobile 040XXXXXXX what do i dial? |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 2pm AEST
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How to Activating international Voice/Data roaming of PennySim |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 2pm AEST
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how do i call someone using smart dial? (without assigning a special number) If you don't want to assign a special number, you need to use the Pilot number. Call 0289898800, wait for the prompt, then enter "john smith's" number using your phone keypad. Hit # to send the number (don't hit dial button again). |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 3pm AEST
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How to Activating international Voice/Data roaming of PennySim Your best bet is to email support@pennytel.com ... |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 4pm AEST
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f i want to call john smith 0401234567 from my mobile 040XXXXXXX what do i dial? You could add an entry to your phone contact list. Number to call PilotNumber # So the whole thing ends up looking like this 0401234567pPilotNumber# You just need to find out how to enter the pause for your particular mobile. Edit:dyslexic typing |
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0401234567pPilotNumber# Pilot Number should be first.... PilotNumberp0401234567# |
posted 2009-Jul-29, 11pm AEST
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So the whole thing ends up looking like this 0401234567pPilotNumber# The string has to be PilotNumberp0401234567# not 0401234567pPilotNumber# In any case, many phones let you build the string from address book entries either before dialling and it will send the digits after the pause (p) as DTMF tones or you can look up the number after connecting to the pilot number and send the digits as DTMF tones. Actually I think using Smart Dial has a number of advantages: 1) On most phones the outgoing call log will only store the first number dialled before the pause, ie. pilot number, so you will not know who you actually called, and if you store the whole string in your phonebook, then it will often display the first name that starts with the pilot number regardless of the rest of the string. 2) Smart Dial numbers are automatically assigned now either on the PT portal or via the Mobile Application, so as long as the numbers are in your address book, you will have a Smart Dial number assigned and most phones allow you to easily connect to a PC so you can copy and paste the Smart Dial numbers from the PT portal into your mobile's phone book. 3) The Pilot Number is really only for cases where you have not assigned a Smart Dial number or it is a one-off call to the number. Nevertheless, I still prefer to add any numbers I dial via PT VoIP to the PT online addressbook as soon as I get back to my PC so the the call record (Statement) has the name of the called party which makes it easier to check your calls, and once it is in the addressbook, a Smart Dial number will be generated when you go to the Smart Dial section, and you can just add that number to your phone if you intend to call it again, otherwise just leave it. |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 12am AEST
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Anyone know of a decent prefix dialer program for Windows Mobile. Killermobile had one for the Symbian (my e71). But I just bought a HTC TOUCH PRO 2.. running windows 6.1 Anyone out there running a prefix dialer ? Cheers |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 1am AEST
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Anyone know of a decent prefix dialer program for Windows Mobile. Killermobile had one for the Symbian (my e71). But I just bought a HTC TOUCH PRO 2.. running windows 6.1 Keep us in the loop. I'm awaiting delivery of my TP2 and am keen to get my, yet to arrive PTSim to work properly as well. I'm pretty sure I saw a WinMo version of Killer somewhere. |
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Killermobile had one for the Symbian They also have one for WM6 maybe it works on 6.1 ask them. |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 7am AEST
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Anyone know of a decent prefix dialer program for Windows Mobile. LCR software for Windows Mobile |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 7am AEST
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I use "iDialer" for wm6.1/6.5. It's a very good program and it is FREE. |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 11am AEST
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So, if I make a 10 minute call to a mobile using the pilot number, I am charged for 5 minutes on Optus and 10 mins on Pennytel rates. If that was a 30 minute call to a mobile, it becomes very expensive, which it was for me. Indi – if you intend to make a call longer than 5 minutes, it might be better to use the ANI callback feature. Then you would pay the Pennytel rate for the mobile call (10.5cpm) rather than the Optus rate. |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 11am AEST
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if you intend to make a call longer than 5 minutes, it might be better to use the ANI callback feature. Then you would pay the Pennytel rate for the mobile call (10.5cpm) rather than the Optus rate. It sure is the best way to get around the call charges after 5 minutes. It is cheaper to call through PT through this method, even though you are technically paying PT for 2 calls! |
posted 2009-Jul-30, 5pm AEST
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PilotNumberp0401234567# is the pilotnumber the same for everyone? |
posted 2009-Jul-31, 9am AEST
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is the pilotnumber the same for everyone? I think it is... 02 89898800 |
posted 2009-Jul-31, 11am AEST
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Does anyone know how long before the call record appear on the website? Both for PT CAlls, The Optus component, data, and SMS. I have only had my phones and sims for a couple of days and am still sorting them out. But would like to know that I have it set correctly. |
posted 2009-Aug-1, 11am AEST
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Does anyone know how long before the call record appear on the website? Both for PT CAlls, The Optus component, data, and SMS. The calls made using smartdial appear immediately, under the 'call detail records' section of the 'statement' page. Optus charges including calls, data, sms, mms, etc. are updated periodically (it varies from every few days to every 3 weeks or so) and appear under the 'smartdial' section of the 'statement' page. Note that recently the Optus charges have been getting updated fairly quickly, but it's a bit hard for me to tell because I generally avoid incurring any of these charges. Finally, the monthly access charge(s) appears on the monthly statement that can be downloaded from the 'invoices' section of the 'statment' page. |
posted 2009-Aug-1, 11am AEST
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but it's a bit hard for me to tell because I generally avoid incurring any of these charges. That's what I am trying to avoid! I have 2 Freedom accounts, 2 mobiles and 2 PTSim cards. I have sent SMSs between PTSims...where should these be charged/displayed? I have made a few calls from PTSim mobile to landline using Smartdial numbers...where should these be charged/displayed I have done a bit of browsing... where should this be charged/displayed. None of the calls/data appear under the PTSim page on my statemant page for either PTSim I do however have 2 x 8c calls shown on my main account call record that correspond to 2 calls made from my mobile via Smartdial. I'm just getting myself more confused. |
posted 2009-Aug-1, 1pm AEST
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Pennytel, you are charging me 25c for sms's when i'm on VOICEPLAN1388. this is happening on BOTH my pennysim's on two different accounts.. i have logged faults HTP-555342 & VGF-258954. please fix this ASAP and refund any money wrongly charged. |
posted 2009-Aug-3, 11am AEST
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I have sent SMSs between PTSims...where should these be charged/displayed? I have made a few calls from PTSim mobile to landline using Smartdial numbers...where should these be charged/displayed I have done a bit of browsing... where should this be charged/displayed. None of the calls/data appear under the PTSim page on my statemant page for either PTSim |
posted 2009-Aug-3, 7pm AEST
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Yep, that makes sense, see above. Thanks, it is slowly starting to make a bit of sense. I suspect it will make more sense if any of my PTSim details actually get updated. |
posted 2009-Aug-3, 8pm AEST
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How is the data usage quality with pennysim. I'm using exetel at the moment. Any dif? |
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I don't know because I only have 1 pennysim atm. These should be free though and may not be displayed anywhere. Well that depends, PTSIM to PTSIM SMS's are free only if yout on the 13.88 SMS plan. I would guess that these would still show as being $0 so you know how many SMS's you have actually sent. And it would be in Statement -> PennySIM details -> SMS/MMS. |
posted 2009-Aug-3, 10pm AEST
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ut I just bought a HTC TOUCH PRO 2.. running windows 6.1 Anyone out there running a prefix dialer ? Cheers Try SunnySoft CallingCard. I have used it and now my wife is using my PalmTreo750 on which its running like a charm. Haven't had any issues. Though its not free. But worth the money |
posted 2009-Aug-4, 1pm AEST
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Hello, Anyone know of a calling card app that will work for an LG KP500 Cookie? Tried Killer mobile, they said their one is not ready yet. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Aug-5, 10am AEST
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How to Activating international Voice/Data roaming of PennySim You need to ask Pennytel to activate it. You need to pay $250 upfront before they activate the services. I think it's bit rediculous that we need to upfront while they have our credit card details. I didn't have this problem when I was with Optus. |
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I use "iDialer" for wm6.1/6.5. It's a very good program and it is FREE. I installed these apps today. This is Exactly what i was looking for! It prefixes all my outgoing calls.. Is there an app that can send SMS's via Pennytels Gateway ? Colbysms isnt working for WM 6.1 on my HTC TOUCH PRO 2 :(. If supware has a SMS app.. i'd be set. Thanks gjhh for this recommendation. Dense |
posted 2009-Aug-5, 7pm AEST
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Is there an app that can send SMS's via Pennytels Gateway ? Tried pennytels app? |
posted 2009-Aug-6, 1am AEST
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Tried pennytels app? Does the PT App work with Winmo 6.1 and/or 6.5...I thought is was only set for iPhones. |
posted 2009-Aug-6, 7am AEST
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I didn't have this problem when I was with Optus. Actually I had this problem with Optus. I changed from a prepaid contract to a postpaid, and than realised, thay roaming wasn't activated, so I called them, and they told me, that I had to be theier !postpaid! customer for three months a an always paying customer, before they will activate my roaming, so roaming seems to be a big issue, even with optus. And as far as I know, PT would pay your money back to you in case you don't need roaming anymore, so it's "quite" fair to pay so much upfront... Imagine with roaming you can easily produce more than these $ 250 on costs, and than PT has to get the money from you somehow.... |
posted 2009-Aug-6, 8am AEST
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Does the PT App work with Winmo 6.1 and/or 6.5...I thought is was only set for iPhones. There has always been a Java version. Requirements Mobile phones with Java MIDP2.0 and CLDC1.1 support can immediately accept the Penny service. Major brand of phones supported include Nokia, Sony Ericsson and Blackberry. Apple iPhone users can download the full Penny suite from Apple Store. http://www.pennytel.com/PennyTelMobile.jad I can get it to login but nothing beyond that. |
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User #123202 613 posts
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Yeah.. I'm using Pennytel's app now for SMS.. I'm not a big fan of it.. Colbysms was great.. was simple and had failover providers for sending sms.. along with GSM fail over. It does with with java on wm 6.1 because i have it running on my HTC TOUCH PRO 2 Dense |
posted 2009-Aug-6, 1pm AEST
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User #193337 278 posts
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Does the PT App work with Winmo 6.1 and/or 6.5...I thought is was only set for iPhones. Yeah it does, on both. Need java installed. |
posted 2009-Aug-6, 11pm AEST
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Maybe this question has already been answered: When I am diverting/forward a call from my mobile to a PT owned number. Thanks. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 8am AEST
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User #199255 109 posts
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When I am diverting/forward a call from my mobile to a PT owned number. Any call from PTSIM to PT DID is free |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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thanks |
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User #260386 27 posts
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I have just been sent the new version of Killer Mobile application for pennytel on my N95. I cannot get this thing to work. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 11am AEST
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does anyone know the phone number for pennysim support? I need to call thema dn can't find the number anywhere. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 11am AEST
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User #103533 236 posts
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1300 232 888 (PennySIM Support) – from their web-page – Bill |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 11am AEST
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Terryg. You definitely need to send your number otherwise Pennytel does not recognize your call. It is of course also necessary to have included your number on your account. Unfortunately PT are not able to convey the proper message about this service. It is not difficult to set up once you have been told or shown. Someone needs to put the instructions on the PT site so that everyone can undertsand them. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 12pm AEST
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has2bcn. The PTsim is actually $8 including GST. It was $8 plus GST but was changed. I have to tell you that the PT sim is absolutely fantastic. I dont bother with my cordless phones at home now because I use my PT sim mobile for all of my calls. The only restriction I believe is the battery. I just love making a 30 minute or more call for 8 cents. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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I agree its really lovely once it's all set up and fully understand it all. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 1pm AEST
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I have a 1GB per month data (1388?) on my penny sim, however, when I check my internet usage, I can see I have to pay about $6 for my usage from 1st to 3rd of August and the rest of the days (4th to now) show as free. considering these are the FIRST 3 days of the month, I am confused as to why... |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 1pm AEST
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User #15974 392 posts
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1300 232 888 (PennySIM Support) thanks |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 2pm AEST
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If there are any pennytel reps looking at the forum can you please get someone to look at trobule ticket KRQ-426004. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 2pm AEST
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version of Killer Mobile Have you run the config on the application and put in the gateway number etc? If so what settings are you using? |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 2pm AEST
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I have to pay about $6 for my usage from 1st to 3rd Did you always have the 1GB plan? Or did you just change to the 1GB plan? If you changed to the 1GB plan it starts on the 'next billing cycle' which is different from the 1st of the month for most people. If you've always had the 1GB plan it's a billing error and lodge a ticket with pennytel. I haven't seen reps around for a while, are you guys alive? |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 2pm AEST
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I haven't seen reps around for a while, are you guys alive? You have to wonder if they haven't been called off contributing to WP. I whimmed Jim...but he hasn't been online for 11 days... |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 2pm AEST
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User #26557 36 posts
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I have been on 1GB forever (as far as forever goes with pennysim). |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 3pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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I think some of the p.t reps have left....or they are on a long holiday. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 3pm AEST
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version of Killer Mobile Have you run the config on the application and put in the gateway number etc? If so what settings are you using? Hi pro-logic Will let u know how i get on. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 4pm AEST
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I think p.t will die without any reps on the forum as this is the only place we can get any quick help...tickets can take days. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 5pm AEST
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I think p.t will die without any reps on the forum as this is the only place we can get any quick help...tickets can take days. Interesting that Jim has been offline for 11 days and Jocelyn off for 14 days...haven't seen any other PT rep about. |
posted 2009-Aug-10, 8pm AEST
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Mark was online 3 days ago. maybe they have reduced their Wp support stince the amount of problems has been dropping compared to when pennysim first came ou? |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7am AEST
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anyone who went on the SMS plan, check your accounts, both my pennysims (on different pennytel accounts) are getting charged incorrectly!!! |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 8am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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yes mine was wrong but they did fix it up....but trying to get a credit for a few other things seems to be taking a long long long time. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 9am AEST
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Hi guys.. Sorry for not beiong present here as much in the past but I am here now so let me know your issues and I will try getting them addressed asap Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 10am AEST
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I am here now so let me know your issues Welcome back,...you'll be sorry that you said that. Could you please look at: Ticket ID: WYO-518757 The other day I manually topped up one of my accounts via credit card so that I had sufficient funds to purchase some extra DiDs, rather than rely on my Auto Top up. Hopefully I won't have to go through this process again when I sign up for another account, which is also on my list of things to do today. Thanks |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 10am AEST
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Jocelyn, there has not been any DID's in Brisbane for over a month.... |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 10am AEST
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Thanks For the note Terry, We have already requested them from OPTUS but its seems that they have some provisioning delay on their end. We will keep pushing them Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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its ok...I just thought you would be losing business |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 11am AEST
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Could you please look at: Ticket ID: WYO-518757 Hi Scarytas Please note that your issue has been addressed Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 11am AEST
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Hi Scarytas Please note that your issue has been addressed Jocelyn Thank you Jocelyn, now I can get on a pay for some PT services. Great to have you back. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 12pm AEST
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Jocelyn, I am still being charged for sims I sent back in April try KEY-775484 I have sent a few support tickets but nothing has been done, can you please get someone to credit my accounts. Perhaps p.t should give me 2 new accounts without the old sims in as we are now in August its almost 4 months ago and I am still getting charged, also they blocked one account as there was no credit card details but why would I when there is no sim attached. I only have 2 sims on two separate accounts the sims were ported they are not p.t sims sims....0466006096 0466006033 0466006697 they are not connected (not active) cancelled on April 24th ref YDM-838986 KEY-775484 This may help HKE-755784 Thank you Terry Idit...if you would like to issue me with a $50 credit and two new accounts with my current ported sims I will be happy with that it would save a lot of time and trouble for you. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 12pm AEST
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User #281410 103 posts
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Hi, I have a question. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 1pm AEST
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Can the DID number be used as a normal Australian phone number via my mobile? Yes it can, by diverting incoming calls from your DID to go to your PennySIM number. Log on to the PT internet site. Select "Forward ALL of my calls regardless if I'm available or not" NOTE: you will pay the standard PennyTel VOIP->Mobile charge for these calls (10.5 cents per minute). |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 1pm AEST
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it worked! Thanks! |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 2pm AEST
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Jocelyn, thank....YOU....so much for sorting out my 3 accounts, it was so kind of you to take so much trouble. I am very happy now P.t works so well and I don't have any more account problems so P.t is 100% for me. Thank you Terry |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 4pm AEST
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With great regret I have to say that I was wrongfully charged Aud $134 for making use of Sydney access number+Destination number. I have always used Killer mobile's KMdialer software without any problems, and I have a setting that shows me a white screen before the call is being made to confirm that its going via pennytel not optus as suggested by my whirlpool colleague. I've spent over 30 mins explaining this problem to online support but they dont understand. This is awfully wrong!!! |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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I presume you do have a pennytel sim ? and that you just dial the smart dial number not both ? |
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i had issues with smart dial, so dont use it. I use the access number 0289898800 and when it says "please input the phone number you wish to reach" than put the destination number. This is equivalent of using smartdial. To add salt to my grief> The credit card has auto recharged a couple of times now and is incurring the 50c credit card transaction fee |
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User #80133 907 posts
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sounds ok but do you have a pennytel sim card ? |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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User #281410 103 posts
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ofcourse with data as well |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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Ok but who are you calling land line or mobile as mobile calls work out about $11c a minute ? but at $134 or what ever thats a lot of calls |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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"please input the phone number you wish to reach" than put the destination number You aren't pushing send again after you have entered the number! Are you? If you are entering send again then the number will b=go via Optus. I also use KM dialer and sometimes if the phone is not restarted and is left to run for days with KM dialer in the background KM dialer fails. This has happened on a few occassions on my E65 and have disconnected the call and exited KM and restarted it. This mfixed the issue. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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That should be logged somewhere not to push send twice....I keep forgetting. |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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I was wrongfully charged Aud $134 for making use of Sydney access number+Destination number. Was the charge on your VoIP account or your SIM card? |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 7pm AEST
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Was the charge on your VoIP account or your SIM card? All i know is i got an email from pennytel that my balance had ran below $2 and when I opened the webpage it was showing -1XX.XX |
posted 2009-Aug-11, 9pm AEST
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All i know is i got an email from pennytel that my balance had ran below $2 and when I opened the webpage it was showing -1XX.XX Everyone get emails from PT when the balance falls below the preset amount. My question is Was the charge on your VoIP account or your SIM card? This is easily checked. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 7am AEST
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User #281410 103 posts
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This is easily checked. The details aren't reflected on my pennysim details page or call details record page yet |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 9am AEST
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User #168811 346 posts
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I notice the Optus usage information for my PennySIMs is now only 3 days behind. This is a vast improvement from the two weeks it used to be. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 9am AEST
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I notice the Optus usage information for my PennySIMs is now only 3 days behind. This is a vast improvement from the two weeks it used to be. I'm not sure the same can be said for data usage...and to me that is a more critical issue. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 9am AEST
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notice the Optus usage information for my PennySIMs is now only 3 days behind. This is a vast improvement from the two weeks it used to be. You are lucky my last update was 30-07-09 |
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User #231007 864 posts
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Hi, Just looking for some clarification on ordering a dataplan. I went into account yesterday and went thru the online shop part to order a dataplan (500MB). My date for the PSim is the 23rd. I can't see any info in regard to my order, however if I click on the PSim number it shows DATAPLAN888. My other Psim shows n/a. What should happen next? |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 10am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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is it a new sim ? if not it has to be done from your account in the sim card number part. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 11am AEST
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is it a new sim ? No. if not it has to be done from your account in the sim card number part Thats what I did. Edit: Went thru "My Penny Sims/ Create Service Request/ selected Plan. After that if you click on the PSim number it shows the services active etc. DataPlan now shown. |
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What should happen next? Hi theguru1 If you already have the option of Data showing as Active on your Service then it will mean that its ready for your to use. So please try accessing the Data and if you have issues then you can always email us at ptsim@pennytel.com Jocelyn |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 11am AEST
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If you already have the option of Data showing as Active on your Service then it will mean that its ready for your to use. Should I get an SMS (edited) from PT for setup? |
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Email sent to support. ticket number FYO-259184 |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 11am AEST
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You are lucky my last update was 30-07-09 Also, the data has been getting updated every couple of days instead of once a fortnight. Sorry to hear your experience varies, Terry. If it works for some, it should work for all, maybe it's time for a support ticket. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 11am AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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I have had trouble with my account, I think Jocelyn has sorted it out now so will keep an eye on it and give it a few more days perhaps they need to reboot their system. |
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User #50112 930 posts
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perhaps they need to reboot their system I really like the stability of the last few months and hope they don't have to reboot anything. S. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 12pm AEST
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User #80133 907 posts
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yes its been really goooooood |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 12pm AEST
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What should happen next? Hi theguru1 If you already have the option of Data showing as Active on your Service then it will mean that its ready for your to use. So please try accessing the Data and if you have issues then you can always email us at ptsim@pennytel.com Jocelyn The answer I got from lodging a support ticket was that I would be notified when data was activated (although it shows as such already), and then to follow the Optus link to setup the mobile. Haven't receive a notification, but tried the setup anyway. Doesn't work unfortunately. |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 5pm AEST
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Killermobile had one for the Symbian (my e71). Hi killermobile users. I am having trouble getting hold of this software. What's the secret? There's no download option on their website and I'm not getting replies to emails. Any ideas? Also I am sure I read from Jim that pennytel are developing their own...any news on this? |
posted 2009-Aug-12, 9pm AEST
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User #123202 613 posts
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The idialer / icontact program or even magicall works great. It prefixes a dialout number before the actual number. The only downside i find to this is.. it will take a good 30 seconds to make the actual call before it the other party rings ? It has to Dial the pilot number.. wait for the operators voice, and then dial the actual destination number. When ever i use the smartdial pilot number service.. i don't usually hear the first ring until about 20 – 30 seconds from when i actually hit dial. However if you use the smartdial service via the website and setup a remapped number and dial it without using the pilot number, i can get connected in under 10seconds. I wish Pennytel could somehow speed up the smartdial process, but i dont think its possible. It's no dramas.. it just means a slightly longer delay in making calls via the pilot number service. Dense |
posted 2009-Aug-13, 8am AEST
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User #210322 1967 posts
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Email sent to support. ticket number FYO-259184 Please whim me if you still cannot get Data working as I can see that our Support staff have already replied to your ticket Thanks |
posted 2009-Aug-13, 9am AEST
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Please whim me if you still cannot get Data working as I can see that our Support staff have already replied to your ticket Thanks Working now. Thanks Jocelyn |
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Hi killermobile users. I am having trouble getting hold of this software. What's the secret? There's no download option on their website and I'm not getting replies to emails. Any ideas? did u check ur junk mail folder? i just recently got an email from them notifying an update |
posted 2009-Aug-13, 9pm AEST
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Hi Jocelyn, I got a friend to |