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posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #205985   724 posts
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I think it's fantastic – the simplicity and it loads pages very, very quickly indeed.

Good one, google :)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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le-foot writes...

Good one, google :)

Yes and every Tab is independant of the other.. They can be dragged away, replaced, rearranged by dragging tabs. Using Application Shortcut enables a quick start url (on desktop or wherever) with its own window and without the baggage..

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #97479   909 posts
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once it has more features it will be better. Like blocking outgoing cookies, ability to selectively allow cookies, disable of scripts and plugins at choice blah blah blah. I just hope it can keep its speed. Haven't had any crashes yet and ive gone looking.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #11862   141 posts
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Replying to up the creek ;

>something about is this good?

Depends on how you view economics. Basic economics suggest that non-natural monopolies are bad for the economy, they cause a 'dead weight loss'

In essence, having MS products such as office pro go ~$750 whilst if it was working in a 'perfectly competitive' environment (this is imaginary), say of $50 (plucked out of my arse with no basis of support for this price). then the market is $700 down the wrong slope of supply/demand equilibrium. That means MS can extract monopolist profits at the cost of the rest of the industry. Means that per license, whether it be $700 or any value of $X above the imaginary equilibrium price is forcing Australian businesses to be less competitive.

e.g. 10K users, (assuming paying full price) means they run a cost which is $700 (or value of $X) x 10,000 = $7M more expensive then in an perfect competition market.

So back to the point about Chrome, If Chrome can provide a platform to compete against 'MS' Office suite or for other applications, by using the web. It can create competition in a market which is ruled by a monopoly, and help reduce business costs, thus give the potential to halt or even reduce inflation in (that specific line of business costs).

Sooooo, any competition to Microsoft is good. I'm going to be interested to see how Microsoft respond (by using anti-competitive behavior OR do nothing OR innovate around Google and others). I personally, rather see them innovate as they definitively have the potential & cash too.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #188361   810 posts
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The evolution of Chrome is win, win for the end user IMO. Even if you don't use it.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6pm AEST
User #185759   878 posts
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Can't seem to find out how to remove the porn sites from its history effectively, wont use it yet until i can get away with porn on it.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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The magical starfish writes...

Can't seem to find out how to remove the porn sites from its history effectively, wont use it yet until i can get away with porn on it.

Click the page icon in the top-right, and select "new incognito window". You can now look at as much porn as you want, and no traces will be left on the computer (at least that's how it's supposed to work).

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #138552   90 posts
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it loads pages very, very quickly indeed.

Good one, google :)

It is really, really fast – it's my new default browser.
I have Firefox as a backup but have had zero problems with Chrome.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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So here is another AdBlock Solution.. Bear with me guys..
Ok, this is one method of Ad Blocking that worked for me.
Use this method even for those with wireless an USB modems.

Go to Rapidshare and download ..
http://rs74.rapidshare.com/files/28588675/Hardcore_Ad-Blocker.rar

Its rar file so if you cant open it, download a zip extractor ie.
http://www.zipeg.com/

Extract to Documents, or somewhere easy to get at..
In most cases all you have to do is click “enable” to install or “disable” to uninstall.

However, Vista is stubborn pig sometimes, so open Windows/system32/drivers/etc
Find the “host” file and relocate it in another place, in case you need to put it back.

Now, simply open the Hardcore File marked “on” , locate the “host” file
and copy it to the original “host” file location. ie. drivers/etc

That’s it. Restart Browser.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #84914   798 posts
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You would have to think that Microsoft will be taking note of all such happenings and would try to at least match what Google are trying to achieve with this browser. Let's see if they can be bothered to respond to such a challenge.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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9/5/2008 4:00:00 AM (EDT) 1.73%

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?sample=21&qprid=43&qpcustom=Chrome+0.2

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #81259   1335 posts
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Trying to download stuff from Major Geeks via the internode server gets me an error and says it doesn't exist.No matter what file. In firefox it works but in chrome it does not. Anyone else have this problem

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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Sparkie writes...

download stuff from Major Geeks via the internode server gets me an error and says it doesn't exist.

no..problem

posted 2008-Sep-5, 7pm AEST
User #19427   7264 posts
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Once you break a tab off....how do you refit it to the main browser??

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #138552   90 posts
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No problembo here – I downloaded two files via the Internode server.......

Sparkie writes...

Trying to download stuff from Major Geeks via the internode server gets me an error

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #15773   555 posts
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technoboffin writes...

Once you break a tab off....how do you refit it to the main browser??

Just drag and drop it back into the tab bar.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #202091   107 posts
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"Firefox 3.1, which Mozilla hopes to release by the end of the year, comes with JavaScript acceleration technology called TraceMonkey. In Mozilla's test that pitted TraceMonkey-enhanced Firefox against the Chrome beta, Google's browser was 28 percent slower on Windows XP and 16 percent slower on Windows Vista."

Bye bye Chrome ;)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #47297   6767 posts
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Chrome is awesome. I'm using it as my primary browser now, and it's working wonders :)

Simple, clean, fast, stable.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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brownd writes...

Bye bye Chrome ;)

Bye Bye mate..
Now back to Chrome..zoom, zoom, zoom..

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #138552   90 posts
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brownd writes...

Google's browser was 28 percent slower on Windows XP and 16 percent slower on Windows Vista."

What the... a browser faster than Chrome, I reckon Google will match TraceMonkey/Firefox, also doubt that Microsoft can keep up....

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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Headset writes...

I reckon Google will match TraceMonkey/Firefox,

There is no doubt about that..

I am finding it funny now i dont have ads.,
After 3 days , it doesnt seem right.. Spose i will get used to it :)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #19427   7264 posts
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forrestgump writes...

Just drag and drop it back into the tab bar.

tried that...doesn't work for me.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #55749   13083 posts
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brownd writes...

Bye bye Chrome ;)

I was about to say why but...

Until they (Chrome) have a normal Bookmark function and using Control + Scroll wheel work as good as Firefox to enlarge text & images I have ditched Chrome after two days running it 24/7.

Sure it will happen but for now I am prepared to give up the slightly faster site loading with Chrome for FF features.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #55749   13083 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

I am finding it funny now i dont have ads.,
After 3 days

Same here no ads and had seen Chrome block a few but none coming up.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #153401   59 posts
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They created an open source browser and it's not available to open source users? Call me when it's available on linux, even then I might not try it out of spite.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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technoboffin writes...

tried that...doesn't work for me.

Did you try dragging the actual Tab into the empty space.?. It should work

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #103214   1955 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

Ok, this is one method of Ad Blocking that worked for me.
Use this method even for those with wireless an USB modems.

Is this reversible? The idea of messing the HOSTs file seems a bit suss if things go wrong.

I would really like to have AdBlock Plus-like features on Chrome though. It should speed it up even faster if it doesn't need to render the ads.

EDIT: I'm trying that Hardcore AdBlocker thing since it has an uninstall option. On XP, you only need to use the enable or disable batch files.
It's so so. It's not as good as AdBlock Plus as the ads are blocked but the "Page can not be opened" window is left behind (on some pages) which is quite unsightly.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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sail writes...

Same here no ads

Which method did you use?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #75375   6181 posts
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I am liking Chrome but still think Opera is the best all round browser.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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technoboffin writes...

Once you break a tab off....how do you refit it to the main browser??

Make sure you grab the tab when you try to drag it back in. Grabbing the top of the window does not allow it to be dragged back in.

Up the Creek writes...

9/5/2008 4:00:00 AM (EDT) 1.73%

...and back down to 1.45. It's slowly picking up momentum though.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #33109   5385 posts
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I used chrome a little today.

Crashed on youtube with it being the only tab open, XP SP2 running no rubbish....

So I was fairly disappointed.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #188361   810 posts
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dannyboi writes...

Is this reversible? The idea of messing the HOSTs file seems a bit suss if things go wrong.

Not at all. It is only a text file.

Just make a backup. Or HijackThis will make one for you.

But I am not too concerned about the ads. I don't respond to ads on any media. I don't really understand how ads work.

I don't see a Coke ad on TV, and say to myself, "Hey. I need to buy some Coke!".

Never could understand how advertising really makes people buy things.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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dypsis writes...

But I am not too concerned about the ads. I don't respond to ads on any media. I don't really understand how ads work.
I don't see a Coke ad on TV, and say to myself, "Hey. I need to buy some Coke!".
Never could understand how advertising really makes people buy things.

Advertising doesn't necessarily work like that. It affects you subconsciously. You might not think "I need a Coke now" or "I'm going to buy that brand of camera", but you are more likely to chose them in the future rather than products you've never heard of before.

If you're a human being, you're effected by advertising :)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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dannyboi writes...

Is this reversible?

If you are worried, just copy/drag the original file to safe location somewhere..

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #18711   18 posts
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liking chrome so far :D!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #55749   13083 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

Which method did you use?

Just installed as per directions. I was laughing at all the ad blocker comments when I realised Google's Chrome was doing a better job than FF. A couple of regular sites I visit are renowned for the pop ups and Chrome blocked them all.

Try Weatherzone for a start...
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/vic/melbourne

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #188361   810 posts
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James01 writes...

Advertising doesn't necessarily work like that. It affects you subconsciously.

I will have to be more aware. Thanks for the tip.
I am beginning to think that I am not human.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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sail writes...

the pop ups

I have noticed The Pop Ups but its hard to notice with so many other ads.
Anyhow, dont have to worry for the meantime.. AdBlock Plus may release an extension soon.
Can also add more sites to the host file if i need to.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #209077   9 posts
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Google Chrome no doubt looks good but the speed is quite dissapointing. Just to compare results with others here are my speeds for firefox, IE7 and Chrome.

Chrome: [URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318690415.png[/IMG][/URL]

Internet Explorer 7: [URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318690873.png[/IMG][/URL]

Firefox: [URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318691539.png[/IMG][/URL]

So Firefox is the fastest and I don't see googles browser being very succesful if the speeds don't get rectifed in the next release. Firefox and IE7 look safe for now.

Just so people know my ISP is Telstra Bigpond and my plan is Cable Extreme 25gb and My exchange is WRNA (wantirna); 201 Burwood Hwy. I live about 2km from the exchange. Wantirna is about 25km south east of melbourne CBD. I'm really happy with my cable service and youtube videos load really fast and I have 4 voip phones and have had all 4 active at once with perfect latency and no packet loss or jitter. (voip phones hooked up to switch then modem, then directly connected to Faktortel and Pennytel.)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #55749   13083 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

The Pop Ups but its hard to notice with so many other ads.

Haven't seen any others whilst using Chrome!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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craig mason writes...

Google Chrome no doubt looks good but the speed is quite dissapointing.

Everyone else has been saying how amazingly fast it is :)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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sail writes...

Haven't seen any others whilst using Chrome!

Really? What form of adblocking do you have installed apart from Chrome?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #209077   9 posts
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I'm not sure, I'm running Windows XP SP2 and the speed is useable but if you have a high speed connection like me 30/1 mb/s , Google's browser just doesn't seem to take advantage of it. (see speed test results). Can afew Other people post speed test on their original browser and Chrome just to compare. thnx.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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James01 writes...

Everyone else has been saying how amazingly fast it is :)

Hes talking about isp line speeds as shown on speedtest.net, which has stuff all to do with browser speed.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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Craig Mason writes...

Can afew Other people post speed test on their original browser and Chrome just to compare. thnx.

I already run tests with IE7, FF3 and Chrome, and they were all identical.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #212776   8 posts
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Does anyone know why Google would install the Google Update plugin into Firefox?

I was just looking at my addons and plugins and I noticed the Google Update plugin.

I have done a search on it, but can't seem to find any info about it.

I don't understand why it would be necessary.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
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typhoonraging writes...

Does anyone know why Google would install the Google Update plugin into Firefox?

Mostly for their Phishing Filter and malware updater,
If you are unhappy about it, you could disable from msconfig

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #103214   1955 posts
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Use www.ozspeedtest.com for speedtests instead of that other site. Use the Optus mirror as well.

I've found that it's faster than FF but around there with IE8 b2.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #212776   8 posts
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Yeah but that is for the Chrome browser, not Firefox.

Yeah have already disabled it, but I just don't see the point of a google updater plugin being in Firefox.

It has also found its way into Opera and Safari which both point to this file -npGoogleOneClick5.dll

It would be nice to know why it has to be in every browser and not just Chrome.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #142950   8505 posts
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Is it just me or does Google Chrome log you out of Myspace alot =/ Like between every tab in and out.

Otherwise..It's my default browser already.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10pm AEST
User #117211   230 posts
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Yep been a longtime firefox user but google chrome is a lot faster for me.

I also prefer the font they use, its easier to read on a 22".

And it can only get better, seeing as this is the beta, and I have yet to encounter a bug.

The only thing holding back people from migrating I suppose would be firefox addons, which I never used.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10pm AEST
User #103214   1955 posts
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Chrome has not crashed even once so far. That's quite impressive for beta software.

I'm still a bit unsure about the privacy regarding Google, since they're the people who pretty much said your life should be shown to the world with Streetview and so on, and the EULA events of a few days ago.

I think I might leave IE8 and stick with FF and Chrome.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
User #132880   1389 posts
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Just started using Google Chrome, and I can't find quick search bar anywhere on the browser (the bar like on the top right corner of Firefox).

I can't use a browser without it. Though I admit Google Chrome's really cool.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
User #11862   141 posts
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I'll try again, but nicely this time.

Craig Mason writes...

Google Chrome no doubt looks good but the speed is quite dissapointing. Just to compare results with others here are my speeds for firefox, IE7 and Chrome.

Craig, I think your analysis is incorrect for the following reasons

Download and tcp performance varies due to:
1) ISP services vary quite substantially, it is common for performance to shift second to second depending on congestion within the ISP.

2) PC issues, as PC could be on various loads at time of test, the results are prone to inaccuracy.

3) "active" tests face the issue of timing, one minute you might have a perfect network with zero congestion, zero packet loss, zero buffering on intermediate routers.

4) My results show the opposite of yours, however I'm not asserting that these results are meaningful, if anything I'm saying that they are not!

Chrome
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318697760.png[/IMG][/URL]

IE7
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318700355.png[/IMG][/URL]

FF3.x
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318700927.png[/IMG][/URL]

5). I noticed at the time of post you only sent 4 threads to WP, I know from my own point of view, probably not good idea to write reviews without a strong basis of knowledge before hand.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
User #211624   121 posts
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Michael Y writes...

Just started using Google Chrome, and I can't find quick search bar anywhere on the browser

You don't need one, the address bar works as one, just type the search in the address bar and hit go! :-)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
User #228441   2 posts
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If you right-click on the address bar and go to 'edit search engines' you can add the various search engines such as wikipedia. You can then assign a keyword (I set w for wikipedia). With that, you can then type 'w search' into the address bar (eg. w google chrome) and it will search using wikipedia. I find this much quicker than having to change the usual drop-down menu.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12am AEST
User #90780   2645 posts
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sail writes...

Try Weatherzone for a start...
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/vic/melbourne

not one single Popup on Firefox.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12am AEST
User #208912   422 posts
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It's crashing as soon as I open it. What's wrong? Uninstalled it and re-installed... problem persists.

I'm using Win XP on a Mac with Parallels.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12am AEST
User #77979   888 posts
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Firefox will never really be as fast as Chrome with a lot of tabs over time. It's just too hard to eliminate all of the memory leaks, and memory leaks degrade performance over time.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1am AEST
User #192610   66 posts
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Elmo. writes...

Is it just me or does Google Chrome log you out of Myspace alot =/ Like between every tab in and out.

Google Chrome uses a unique approach where each tab uses its own process, and when you close that tab the process ends – and the session data with it!

Additionally you'll find you can drag a tab out of a window, and between windows.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 2am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 2am AEST
User #53182   174 posts
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iv noticed the harddrive thrashes away while chroming.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3am AEST
User #211624   121 posts
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Not a productive comment,
please delete

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 5am AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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theone333 writes...

iv noticed the harddrive thrashes away while chroming.

Chromes Phishing and malware database. Can turn off if you like. But it settles down.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 7am AEST
User #188361   810 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

Chromes Phishing and malware database.

I have had to turn off phishing and malware protection. It was flagging sites that I know are clean and have been visiting for years.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 8am AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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Michaelyoh writes...

Just started using Google Chrome, and I can't find quick search bar anywhere on the browser (the bar like on the top right corner of Firefox).

One of the major features of Chrome is the Omnibar. It's a URL bar + search bar.

You obviously didn't put any effort into finding out Chrome's features.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 8am AEST
User #47500   4877 posts
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dypsis writes...

I have had to turn off phishing and malware protection. It was flagging sites that I know are clean and have been visiting for years.

I turned it off too, I found it a bit of a concern that it might be invasive.

I really don't like the ADS in Chrome (unlike in FF there is no Adblock Plus (yet)) so I have installed Privoxy to cleanse the ads off Chrome and it works (sort of) but there are still some placed ads which cannot be blocked (unlike FF Adblock Plus) but I am finding it might be slowing down the surfing experience. Do other Privoxy users find it SLOWS you down?

Actually, I am not finding Chrome to be any faster than FF. They seem to both be pretty much the same in terms of speed. The functionality of FF far exceeds Chrome for now but lets see what Chrome do in the future...

posted 2008-Sep-6, 8am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 10am AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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XVIII.IV.MMIV writes...

Do other Privoxy users find it SLOWS you down?

I have a similar setup to Privoxy, but it doesnt slow down..

Now for some Fun..

If you are using Dial-up, like i am at present.. (Optus 3g is down)

Chrome just absolutely urinates on both IE and FF..

Try it and see.. If you have wireless.. switch to gsm and give it a go..
Works good on text pages like Whirlpool..

posted 2008-Sep-6, 9am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 9am AEST
User #229239   7 posts
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I've been using chrome for a few days and finding it much much faster on the optus adsl, which has been chain draggingly slow lately. The bookmarks system is fine once you get used to it. I've set igoogle as my home page with bookmarks shown, a setting option. I also have gmail mail set up, which is great as a hotmail type account, and I find the whole arrangement fast and simple for my laptop. In particular, sites that are usually quite slow, such as foxsports, are very fast loading on chrome.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 10am AEST
User #59014   5274 posts
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It's nice to find my book marks already automatically set up in chrome, no need to import anything.

But is there a way to have at least have a bookmark link on the main page, without having to have an optional whole extra toolbar added to slightly reduce the viewing area?

I mean there's plenty of room on the main toolbar, and I like the added viewing space. For starters, the address bar doesn't need to be that long, we could use that space to have a bookmark link there...

posted 2008-Sep-6, 10am AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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Dane writes...

But is there a way to have at least have a bookmark link on the main page, without having to have an optional whole extra toolbar added

Not yet, but thats a valid point..Maybe in next Beta?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 11am AEST
User #142950   8505 posts
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Google Chrome uses a unique approach where each tab uses its own process, and when you close that tab the process ends – and the session data with it!

Additionally you'll find you can drag a tab out of a window, and between windows.

Interesting – Also quite annoying.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 11am AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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Elmo. writes...

Interesting – Also quite annoying.

Annoying? How?
Also the tab closes, but the main application saves the session data ie history etc.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
User #138933   447 posts
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Up the Creek writes...

Annoying? How?

For some websites, which require you to log in (e.g. my university's webCT), if you close that tab your session isn't saved and if you decide to revisit that website you need to log in again.

However with whirlpool it seems to work fine.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
User #157159   4027 posts
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s_peed_2 writes...

For some websites, which require you to log in

Thats normal Cookies and Passwords are different,
Does that on Firefox, which is why i have RoboForm installed.
But have you selected "Offer to save Passwords" on Chrome?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
User #146882   6841 posts
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s_peed_2 writes...

For some websites, which require you to log in (e.g. my university's webCT), if you close that tab your session isn't saved and if you decide to revisit that website you need to log in again.

That hasn't happened to me, and I've used several different services and forums online.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
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s_peed_2 writes...

if you close that tab your session isn't saved

Make sure you have "allow all Cookies" enabled too.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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Craig Mason writes...

Google Chrome no doubt looks good but the speed is quite dissapointing. Just to compare results with others here are my speeds for firefox, IE7 and Chrome.

Chrome: [URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/318690415.png[/IMG][/URL]

Lol, whats with all the people using line speed tests as a browser speed test?

Thats not what people are talking about when they say "Chrome is fast".
Line speed tests just download and upload some files to test your actual ISP line speed, that has nothing at all to do with the browsers rendering speed.
The difference in browser results in those line speed tests are just slight differences in how the program runs.

It is fast drawing pages, particularly ones which are generated with a lot of javascript.
It does nothing for line speeds, a browser cant upgrade your ISP plan or lower the noise in Telstra phone lines.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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jmuz writes...

whats with all the people using line speed tests as a browser speed test?

I think he has been told enough already.. But yes

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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chromes not bad, great potential, needs communities to build plugins and extra tools

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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jmuz writes...

It does nothing for line speeds, a browser cant upgrade your ISP plan or lower the noise in Telstra phone lines.

Couldn't it affect your browsing experience and speed though? I'm assuming that those line speed tests reflect upon the rate at which pages load up and so on.

Anyway, Chrome seems to be extremely fast compared with the other browsers. It may have to do with it's caching, in which it seems to not want to let go to your history unless you clear it manually.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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Whatever effect a browser has on line speed is minimal at best. It is in loading web pages that are content heavy that you can argue if a browser is faster than another.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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dannyboi writes...

Couldn't it affect your browsing experience and speed though?

It is much faster on Dial Up
Have you got dial up to verify my findings?

I used GSM Optus Wireless this morning during the outage and it was really good.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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Kanzar writes...

Whatever effect a browser has on line speed is minimal at best.

I tried it , and the speeds on all browsers were identical.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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Up the Creek writes...

Have you got dial up to verify my findings?

I don't use dial up anymore, although it was all dial up for me before I signed up to Vodafone wireless a few months ago.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
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Seems to be a problem with how it handles some website data. If anyone has commonwealth bank Netbank access, log into it using Chrome, and you will see that some parts are displayed in different areas (I'm using IE7 as the other browser). Now it could be a screen size issue (i'm using a 24" widescreen monitor), but I doubt it.

Anyone else notice this?

I also don't like the very thin text font default. I can't seem to change this in the options.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 2pm AEST
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dannyboi writes...

Chrome has not crashed even once so far.

It crashed for me when i was installing it. It asks to import data from Firefox, I clicked yes, came up error cos it was open, so i click skip, then it crashed. Works good now.

There both good. Not sure which one to use. I think Chrome will secretly store private data and store in a google database of information about everyone. I don't think mozila will do that, so I am stating with FF probably.

Thats my opinopn

posted 2008-Sep-6, 2pm AEST
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jicola.com writes...

I think Chrome will secretly store private data and store in a google database of information about everyone. I don't think mozila will do that, so I am stating with FF probably.

Two points I'd like to make:

  • Chrome is open source, so anyone can inspect the code for dodgy stuff like that.
  • Firefox is heavily funded by Google anyway.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 2pm AEST
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IMO Google have done a very good job with Chrome. My default browser is still Firefox, however I have a feeling that later in Chrome's beta stage I will be re-evaluating that decision.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3pm AEST
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starionx writes...

I also don't like the very thin text font default. I can't seem to change this in the options.

Hi,

I didn't like this either especially on the Ebay site, tried to change the font and wouldn't change, so I changed both fonts to 18, checked the Ebay page and it became bigger.

The only problem I'm having is getting my games to work from Bigfish Atlantis keeps telling me no Java Appelet.

Cheers

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3pm AEST
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An interesting observation for me, the Ozspeedtest tests 9MB/15MB won't work on Chrome, yet the 3MB and under work find. Firefox, all tests fine.

Other issue's is that Chrome sometimes won't allow me to quote properly on WP sometimes, and the spelling correction, sometimes doesn't work.

No big deal, I'm just putting it down to being a little buggy. Chrome to me feels exactly like Firefox, just looks different.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3pm AEST
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Hey guys, is there any add-on support whatsoever for Chrome? Or is there planned to be any?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3pm AEST
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James01 writes...

One of the major features of Chrome is the Omnibar. It's a URL bar + search bar.

You obviously didn't put any effort into finding out Chrome's features.

My fault for that. Another thing though, is it possible for users to switch between search engines in Omnibar as conveniently as switching search engines in Firefox quick search bar?

I couldn't find other ways than to right click the Omnibar and select "edit search engines".

posted 2008-Sep-6, 3pm AEST
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Michaelyoh writes...

Another thing though, is it possible for users to switch between search engines in Omnibar as conveniently as switching search engines in Firefox quick search bar?

This feature is a bit more obscure. Took me a while to figure it out. I'll quote from this article:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3398

Sites like Amazon can be searched from within the OmniBar as well, assuming you’ve performed a search on the site before. Just start typing Amazon into the OmniBar and hit tab to type in your search query. It’ll take you straight to the search results on Amazon.com. Pretty cool.

So I can type 'wiki' in the search bar, hit tab the tab key, then type what I want to search Wikipedia for. I had a bit of trouble getting it to work with a couple of sites though, don't know how much luck you'll have.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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I installed Chrome a couple of days ago – I'm quite enchanted by it. It knows what I'm thinking o.0

I ran a quick test by leaving both Chrome and FF3 open with the same 4 tabs open (Gmail, 2 webcomics and WP) for two hours and monitored the memory usage...

FF3 61MB, Chrome 1MB

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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elaria writes...

FF3 61MB, Chrome 1MB

Chrome has more than one exe running. I'm assuming you only counted one.

It would probably have had 5 running in your case, one for each tab, and another for the browser itself.

You need to add them all up :)

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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elaria writes...

I ran a quick test by leaving both Chrome and FF3 open with the same 4 tabs open (Gmail, 2 webcomics and WP) for two hours and monitored the memory usage...

FF3 61MB, Chrome 1MB

Chrome uses separate .exe's for each of it's tabs, and another for the browser itself.

So if you had four tabs open, you should calculate the total memory usage from each of the five chrome.exe processes. Or is that what you did?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Dane writes...

Chrome sometimes won't allow me to quote properly on WP sometimes, and the spelling correction, sometimes doesn't work.

Well, there is no spell check add-on for Chrome, so thats why..
Maybe another application is conflicting with Chrome?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Up the Creek writes...

Well, there is no spell check add-on for Chrome, so thats why..

There is an inbuilt spellchecker. I know, because 'spellchecker' has a red underline in my post. Apparently it should be spell checker.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Mo0k writes...

Hey guys, is there any add-on support whatsoever for Chrome? Or is there planned to be any?

Definitely.. Confirmed by Google.. and..
Here is an Alert Site..http://www.chromeaddins.com/

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Why does Chrome use IE's proxy settings and not its own lilke Firefox does?

Work uses a proxy and home doesnt. Therefore, I use IE at work and FF at home which is fine. I want to use Chrome at home but it uses the same proxy settings as IE which is a pain.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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anyone else noticed constant hardrive seeking when chrome is loaded?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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James01 writes...

You need to add them all up :)

Or Type this in bar. about:memory

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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ben writes...

anyone else noticed constant hardrive seeking when chrome is loaded?

Phishing and malware filters.. Turn feature off if it doesnt settle down after a while.. I have it running and its fine now.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Dane writes...

An interesting observation for me, the Ozspeedtest tests 9MB/15MB won't work on Chrome, yet the 3MB and under work find. Firefox, all tests fine.

You are right.. But the Data is being downloaded, just not showing an Image or result..

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Up the Creek writes...

Or Type this in bar. about:memory

Now that's a handy feature. It tells you the memory usage of other running browsers as well.

I did a couple of quick tests, and memory usage was pretty similar across Chrome, IE7, and Firefox 3. Here's some screenshots:

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/438/52196182dt1.jpg
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1592/50085018dt0.jpg

Is this what other people are finding?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Among the "about" features:

• about:memory shows how much memory the browser--and any other Web browser--is using. Conveniently for Web developers, it also shows how much each Web site in a browser tab is using.

• about:stats shows a wide range of internal measurements such as the time taken to initialize Chrome, load Gears, or perform various operations while running JavaScript programs with Chrome's V8 engine.

. about:histogram into Chrome's address bar shows many performance details.

• about:network tracks the detailed network activity of using a Web site.

• about:version shows details of what version of Chrome is running, along with the user-agent text that the browser reports when identifying itself to Web sites.

• about:histograms graphs various performance measurements such as the time taken to autocomplete text users type into the browser.

• about:crash crashes the active browser tab.

also,
* about:internets
* about:dns
* about:cache
* about:plugins

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Sorry to go on a bit, but i am liking this Browser so much for speed, i have made it my Default Browser.
One advantage of this is, opening stored Web Pages in Documents, is sooo... much faster..

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
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Don't forget "about:internets". Best of them all.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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James01 writes...

Don't forget "about:internets". Best of them all.

My "Tubes" dont display.. Anyway they're not Clogged Yet.. :)

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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I'm using it now and must admit – I'm impressed so far.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007675.html

Ten Google Tips and Tweaks.
1 Key Board Shortcuts
2 Custom Searches
3 That EGG...
4 Comment Boxes
5 Home Button
6 Privacy
7 Incognito on the Fly
8 How to put a Fakebar on your Chrome Browser.
9 Enable Firefox to Run More Like Chrome

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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James01 writes...

Now that's a handy feature.

have you tried the right mouse click on the browser (top right hand side) gives you task manager...

its not bad either.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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Here is a "Site Search" link you can place in Bookmarks folder..
I missed this function badly..
Bear with me for few minutes, as i am not sure this is going to work on this forum..

javascript:q = "" + (window.getSelection ? window.getSelection() : document.getSelection ? document.getSelection() : document.selection.createRange().text); if (!q) q = prompt("You didn't select any text. Enter a search phrase:", ""); if (q!=null) location=("http://www.google.com/search?num=100&q=site:" + escape(location.hostname) + " \"" + escape(q.replace(/\"/g,"")) + "\"").replace(/ /g, "+"); void 0

Ok now this should work..

Create any old URL and paste it to Bookmarks..
Now Edit the Bookmark changing name to "Site Search" or whatever.
Now , cut and paste the above script and place it in the URL
Save..

Clicking that link will create a little pop-up box to enter search data..
Someone Confirm this worked please.

NB For a bit of Fun , you could enter any Details in place of "You didn't select any text. Enter a search phrase:"
Eg , i put.. "Your Hardrive is being Erased..Sorry about That"

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-6, 6pm AEST
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If you go to the "About" dialog now you'll see an alert appear that an update is available; it's a minor version bump to 0.2.149.29.

The one fix I've already found: the various problems with Facebook mentioned by a poster in the previous Chrome thread appear to have been fixed and everything seems, at least at a quick glance, to be working properly now.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 6pm AEST
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