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User #2257   836 posts
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Whats wrong with exetel? Am i the only person who never seems to be able to load a youtube video without pausing?? Im on 8mbit ADSL1, in Melbourne, I'm still under quota on both peek / off-peak? WTF can't i load a simple youtube video??

posted 2008-Aug-31, 9pm AEST
User #29992   2915 posts
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Same here I am in the same boat as you and I am having extreme issues streaming any video.

Be it www.youtube.com or www.gametrailers.com

posted 2008-Aug-31, 10pm AEST
User #195921   238 posts
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I only just noticed it a couple of mins ago (usually streaming video is fast for me). Wonder if it has anything to do with the international website thing this morning.

posted 2008-Aug-31, 10pm AEST
User #2257   836 posts
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Meh! I'm seriously over this crap.. i mean, sure exetel offer stacks of download quota.. but doing the simple things like watching a quick streaming video seem to struggle quite often with exetel.. i use to be able to do it on a 512 connection with other isp's!!

posted 2008-Sep-1, 12am AEST
User #63117   214 posts
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Having the same problem. Can't wait 'till my 6 month contract is up!

posted 2008-Sep-1, 9am AEST
User #140792   859 posts
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flawless here for me right now

which is not always the case

however...local speeds
http://www.speedtest.net/result/316496335.png

to USA east coast
http://www.speedtest.net/result/316496859.png

maybe there is a clue there

posted 2008-Sep-1, 10am AEST
User #144592   1229 posts
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really depends on the time, i think at some points they get high loads and is slow. both youtube and the ISP.

happened to me with exetel tpg and youtube.
goes away after few mins if you're lucky. but yea its common for spikes i reckon

posted 2008-Sep-1, 10pm AEST
User #34282   419 posts
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Try at different times of the day, any youtube laggy streams i put down to peak traffic to that site.

posted 2008-Sep-1, 10pm AEST
User #154822   29 posts
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Ive been having the same problem for about a week but up until a couple of days ago it was only after midnight, right on the dot, every night. Now it's happening at other times also.

posted 2008-Sep-1, 11pm AEST
User #87322   2649 posts
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I was on a 8192/384 plan myself.

When you find an ISP struggling to provision for that 'growing demand' for bandwidth there is only one noble action you can take, and that is to do as I have done: reduce your 'width' by four times (4x).

Downgrade to 1500/256; you will not only occupy less space you will have some chance of a full speed line.

posted 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
User #232267   166 posts
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B1kkies writes...

Try at different times of the day, any youtube laggy streams i put down to peak traffic to that site.

LOL ...

If there's a bandwidth shortage somewhere, then it's sure as hell NOT at Youtube's end.

They've got more bandwidth than most people can possibly even imagine!

"YouTube sends a staggering 1,000 gigabytes of data every second, or nearly 300 billion GBs each month. Several industry insiders estimate that YouTube spends roughly $1 million a day just to pay for the bandwidth to host the videos."

http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/25/youtube-looks-for-the-money-clip/

And for what it's worth ... I never have any problems with Youtube from my Internode connection.

We're lucky though, because Internode have got a direct link to Google/Youtube in the US, and they even host some of the content locally on their own network as well.

Example:
youtube-dl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt3ZgEDhHNU
Retrieving video webpage... done.
Extracting URL "t" parameter... done.
Requesting video file... done.
Video data found at http://150.101.98.221/get_video?video_id=nt3ZgEDhHNU...<snip>...

~$ nslookup 150.101.98.221
Server: 192.231.203.132
Address: 192.231.203.132#53

Non-authoritative answer:
221.98.101.150.in-addr.arpa name = g221.internode.on.net.

Tracing the path to 150.101.98.221 on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max
1 lns1.mel6.internode.on.net (150.101.212.90) 14.877 ms 15.538 ms 15.710 ms
2 gi1-3.cor1.mel6.internode.on.net (150.101.212.158) 22.807 ms 24.165 ms 23.848 ms
3 gi5-2.cor3.mel4.internode.on.net (150.101.212.136) 26.481 ms 29.681 ms 24.809 ms
4 pos3-0.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.129) 23.886 ms 24.316 ms 23.645 ms
5 po2.cor3.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.155) 21.893 ms 21.258 ms 21.821 ms
6 g221.internode.on.net (150.101.98.221) [open] 25.273 ms 24.431 ms 24.714 ms

posted 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
User #195921   238 posts
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Just tried a youtube video just now. It seems to be kinda slow. It pauses every couple of seconds so it can keep playing.

posted 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
User #232267   166 posts
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infinit3 writes...

Just tried a youtube video just now. It seems to be kinda slow. It pauses every couple of seconds so it can keep playing.

What's the URL?

posted 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
User #195921   238 posts
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Actually seems to be fine now but still going kinda slow (no pauses though). Running at around 300kbps on a 1500/256 connection. Heres the URL anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpL9vHrxoPM&feature=related

Harry Potter 6 trailer btw =P

edit: just tried some other youtube videos, they seem to be kinda slow too and actually pause sometimes.

posted 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-2, 12am AEST
User #87322   2649 posts
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infinit3 writes...

edit: just tried some other youtube videos, they seem to be kinda slow too and actually pause sometimes.

Yeah, youtubes are fine, but in terms of pure bandwidth the best streams for pausing on exetel – without a doubt – are the http://www.vimeo.com/hd 's

Vimeos were the only justification I could see in having a high speed grade line. Now at 0.5gb/h 76gb is fine.

posted 2008-Sep-2, 1am AEST
User #158800   1460 posts
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yes youtube has been like that for the 2 months or so i have been with exetel. It changes during different times of the day.
It does get annoying, it's because exetel like to limit how much each connection can use. Often they put this at 30kb/s it seems (at least for youtube).

If there was some way to multi-thread youtube downloads inside of the browser and watch it while it does that then that would eliminate a lot of problems. Except I don't think that's possible, only way is to use a download program like orbit or something.

posted 2008-Sep-2, 9am AEST
User #113425   40 posts
Forum Regular

+1 can't get Youtube to load at a reasonable rate. It's loading at about the rate it did on 256k, which is ridiculous. Has been for several weeks now. Not good enough.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 12am AEST
User #54136   1503 posts
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FYI.. People with other ISPs are having the same problem.

I just did a Google search for "utube slow" and scored over 13 million hits.

There are many posts on WP re the same problem.

/forum/?action=threads_search&q=youtube+slow&f=

Not a reason to trash your ISP.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
User #63117   214 posts
Forum Regular

More Power writes...

FYI.. People with other ISPs are having the same problem.

I just did a Google search for "utube slow" and scored over 13 million hits.

There are many posts on WP re the same problem.

/forum/?action=threads_search&q=youtube+slow&f=

Not a reason to trash your ISP.

Hmmm... explain this to me:
I try to use youtube (or any other streaming video) at home on my Exetel connection and it's terrible. Video's buffering all the time... Unwatchable.
Half an hour later, I arrive at work and youtube as well as all other streaming videos work perfectly fine. (I work for a gov't department in Adelaide and I believe Internode provides the internet connection).
I'm convinced it's an Exetel problem.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
User #71962   4236 posts
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The Bullet Dodger writes...

I work for a gov't department in Adelaide and I believe Internode provides the internet connection

Government departments have direct connections to the internet. They are vastly different to a residential-level home connection.

Even an Exetel business or corporate connection would blow your residential ADSL service away.

I'm convinced it's an Exetel problem.

Well I don't have any problems streaming YouTube on my Exetel connection.

If you're so convinced that it's an Exetel problem and 'node is the answer to all your ails, then the simple solution is to change to 'node.

Then you'll have no more issues, right???

posted 2008-Sep-4, 12pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-4, 12pm AEST
User #158800   1460 posts
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Midnight Rider writes...

Then you'll have no more issues, right???

well yes of course they wont, except they wouldn't have as much quota!

I have come from TPG. When tpg wasn't experiencing severe proxy problems youtube videos loaded perfectly fine, all the time. Then I came to exetel and it often can be quite slow.

I am convinced it is an exetel issue. But I sort of expected it considering it is the cheapest isp in all the land. But I will put up with it since I am very happy with the quota and youtube with exetel is still very usable compared to other providers i have been with (like TSN.. *shudders*).

posted 2008-Sep-4, 1pm AEST
User #47743   111 posts
Forum Regular

I was with exetel for my first month at 1500/256, I couldn't stream anything at all, it went slower than dogs breath.

I soon upgraded to 8000/384 for my next month, and youtube then went very fast.

exetel just don't cater to slower users like they do for 8mbit customers.

I would assume that catering to the slower users would cost them less in the long run, because then there wouldn't be as many peaks and slowdowns on their network.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
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