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User #213342   491 posts
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Optus are bringing out a new fusion plan which will cost $129 but with an unknown usage quota at this stage. To be released on September 7. Anyone else know about this? Feel free to shed some more light.

posted 2008-Aug-31, 8pm AEST
User #80122   769 posts
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If Optus do introduce new plans I hope they are better value than the last lot of plans, though somehow I doubt they will be...uploads counted & comparatively low monthly data quota.

posted 2008-Sep-1, 8am AEST
User #40720   2831 posts
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Yeah I've been waiting ages, Optus need to release a better plan for those who want more than 20GB (peak) +40GB (offpeak).

It seems they only offer smaller and smaller plans :/

posted 2008-Sep-1, 8am AEST
User #13845   390 posts
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Sounds great but I would much rather see optus provide users with file mirrors similar to bigponds files.bigpond.com. Unmetered content goes a long way and optus are one of the few Aussie ISPs who do not provide any meaningful unmerered content options.

posted 2008-Sep-1, 9am AEST
User #225807   338 posts
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I got an insider update

One of the new plan is;

Optus Fusion – $129

Same as other fusions, except downloads are 30GB and shaped.

As far as I've been told, there's more than 1 new plan out.

posted 2008-Sep-3, 11pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-3, 11pm AEST
User #165522   136 posts
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(TAEDIUM) writes...

Same as other fusions, except downloads are 30GB and shaped.

Well, that would be VERY interesting, and would actually tempt me off my grandfather plan since not having to PAY for going over is a plus.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 3am AEST
User #211350   108 posts
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Would anyone know if the MyHome plans will be getting an update also?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 6am AEST
User #9541   1183 posts
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(TAEDIUM) writes...

Optus Fusion – $129

Same as other fusions, except downloads are 30GB and shaped.

On the Power Rewards plan, so this is not tempting. ($70 for 60Gb)

Also, is this 'downloads' and not 'quota' ie: are uploads dropped off the new plans?

That would be an interesting move by Optus to revert to downloads only and remove excess usage reverting to shaping again. Perhaps they are offereing a choice between the two like Exetel?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 8am AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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Can people already on the optus fusion take up the new quotas without breaking the contract?

Also, on that note, I'm on the original fusion plan where you dont have to pay excess usage. Will I get to keep it like that if I can go onto the new quotas?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9am AEST
User #84256   1104 posts
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Completely Unlimited Downloads
Full Speeds
No Shaping
No Excess Fee's

Sorry must have gone to sleep and started dreaming there for a second

I would say that 30gb sounds about right, maybe 40gb.... but i would trade it all for uncounted downloads off the optus mirror.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 10am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Shouldnt be a problem with this. Optus allows plan changes while staying on the original contract. As for paying excess usage... its all dependant on if these new fusion plans not charge for excess

posted 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
User #24251   527 posts
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J3d1 writes...

On the Power Rewards plan, so this is not tempting. ($70 for 60Gb)

does the power rewards include phone line rental, unlimited local and national calls and calls to optus gsm?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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c a l v writes...

does the power rewards include phone line rental, unlimited local and national calls and calls to optus gsm?

Of course not... power plan was out before bundles were even introduced. I'm on power myself and wouldnt change that plan for anything... I can see where your going with that comment though. Thing you need to realise is that some customers dont use their home phone a whole lot so their happy enough to pay $70 per month for 60gb uploads not counted and knowing their not going to get charged any extra along with a 20 crappy line rental.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 11am AEST
User #76700   121 posts
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(TAEDIUM) writes...

nd shaped.

At 256kb/s.

Also another difference is ALL calls to GSM mobiles are Free/Included in the $129.
Actually i think this is only valid if you bundle the Fusion plans with a mobile. Will need confirming on that.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 7pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-4, 8pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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Me11o writes...

Also another difference is ALL calls to GSM mobiles are Free/Included in the $129.
Actually i think this is only valid if you bundle the Fusion plans with a mobile. Will need confirming on that.

Fusion plans are bundled by definition – they are a bundle of home phone and broadband. The included calls on Fusion include all calls to Optus network mobiles, which includes those with Optus resellers.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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exta writes...

Optus are bringing out a new fusion plan which will cost $129 but with an unknown usage quota at this stage. To be released on September 7. Anyone else know about this? Feel free to shed some more light.

Can verify the above. changes will be seen on the optus website from the 7th. This is also when you can upgrade or change to these plans if you wish to do so. Advertisements will be seen in October. $129 will be the highest package with 30gb data shaped but unfortunately this does still include uploads. Also some new and different fusion plans to watch out for which will also be released soon ;)

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
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TicTacToe writes...

Fusion plans are bundled by definition – they are a bundle of home phone and broadband. The included calls on Fusion include all calls to Optus network mobiles, which includes those with Optus resellers.

This will not be the case on the high end new fusion plans to be released. Will include ALL GSM mobile calls. This is 100% guaranteed

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #130242   32 posts
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Since when did my Fusion 99 plan start including uploads...?

I also noticed I lost my 20gig off peak usage too...

Anyone know when this started..?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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redline69 writes...

Since when did my Fusion 99 plan start including uploads...?

I also noticed I lost my 20gig off peak usage too...

Anyone know when this started..?

So over Optus atm..!!@##$^$

Both Fusion 99 and Yes fusion 99 always included uploads. Difference between the two is speed and on yes fusion you get charged for excess downloads :)

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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redline69 writes...

Since when did my Fusion 99 plan start including uploads...?

Since the very beginning when fusion was first offered...

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

This is 100% guaranteed

How do you know this?

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #130242   32 posts
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What about my 'off peak' 20gig...

When did they remove that from existing fusion plans then...?

I'm positive I had an additional 20gig when I first started on that plan.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Hard to explain without getting myself into some $%#^. I will give you a few more details though. There will be new plans coming out replace the my home suite. Prices are being reduced and download quotas are being increased. Unbundled plans are still $10 more expensive then bundled plans but nothing is changing their as this has been the norm with optus for a while. As discussed earlier by other posters new fusion plans will be released with high usage quota ( highest being 30gb) and the higher end plans do include calls to all gsm mobiles.

Now if i remember correctly there are SEVEN brand spankin new plans coming out which are like fusion but with a twist. I believe optus is the first to release anything like this in terms of bundling and inclusions but ill make you guys wait and see what these mystery place include. I'll give further information in a day or two if possible.

Also the new non fusion plans will unfortunately for some of you guys not include free months

posted 2008-Sep-4, 9pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-4, 10pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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redline69 writes...

What about my 'off peak' 20gig...

When did they remove that from existing fusion plans then...?

I'm positive I had an additional 20gig when I first started on that plan.

Fusion plans have either 2, 7 or 20b quota to use any time. Never included any off peak.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 10pm AEST
User #130242   32 posts
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hmmm...ok, well cheers for that.

i'm interested to hear about these new plans...i need more data damn it!!

posted 2008-Sep-4, 10pm AEST
User #187092   594 posts
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davecash writes...

Both Fusion 99 and Yes fusion 99 always included uploads. Difference between the two is speed and on yes fusion you get charged for excess downloads :)

This is only for the new fusion plans. Old fusions plans don't have excess usage fees.

posted 2008-Sep-4, 10pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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1 Hung Lo writes...

This is only for the new fusion plans. Old fusions plans don't have excess usage fees.

ahh.. thats what i said lol "yes fusion you get charged for excess downloads :)" old plans are just fusion not "yes" fusion

posted 2008-Sep-4, 10pm AEST
User #225807   338 posts
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davecash writes...

Prices are being reduced and download quotas are being increased.

Now are you sure that's not the other way around? Optus are well known for their shithouse innovation team. Its either 2GB or 15 GB... bah!

I'll suppose you're an employee...

I'll ask some of my ex work mates. I'm sure they'll give me a good update of whats new and upcoming.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 2am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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(TAEDIUM) writes...

Now are you sure that's not the other way around? Optus are well known for their shithouse innovation team. Its either 2GB or 15 GB... bah!

I'll suppose you're an employee...

I'll ask some of my ex work mates. I'm sure they'll give me a good update of whats new and upcoming.

Nope quotas are more generous and prices aren't as high compared to the old plans

posted 2008-Sep-5, 6am AEST
User #213342   491 posts
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davecash writes...

Nope quotas are more generous and prices aren't as high compared to the old plans

I suppose you mean you're getting more GB per $ as compared to the 'older' fusion plans?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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exta writes...

I suppose you mean you're getting more GB per $ as compared to the 'older' fusion plans?

Prices will be the same as previous fusion plans with data increases on 79 + 89 fusion and also the new $129 that a previous poster mentioned

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10am AEST
User #213342   491 posts
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davecash writes...

Prices will be the same as previous fusion plans with data increases on 79 + 89 fusion and also the new $129 that a previous poster mentioned

ah, great, thanks for that.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10am AEST
User #55246   102 posts
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About bloody time if it does happen! I'm on the $69 plan and 2gb is ridiculous now there's competition out there. They should make it at least 3gb and change it for the old plans as well – otherwise I'm off as soon as my contract expires or may even pay it off early!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10am AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

the higher end plans do include calls to all gsm mobiles.

If this is true, I might switch the higher end plans. And when you say higher end plans, I assume that only means the $129/30GB plan? Or would it also apply to the $99 plan?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

If this is true, I might switch the higher end plans. And when you say higher end plans, I assume that only means the $129/30GB plan? Or would it also apply to the $99 plan?

Unfortunetly not. Only the 129 plan is seeing a higher usage than the 20gb plan. BUT the 99 and 129 include something that was previously unavailable for you phone lovers.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 10am AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

BUT the 99 and 129 include something that was previously unavailable for you phone lovers.

So if only the $129 included calls for all gsm mobiles, and not the $99, what will the 99 have that was previously unavailable?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11am AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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I mentioned both 99 and 129 would have some previously unavailable :)

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11am AEST
User #84669   26 posts
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davecash writes...

I mentioned both 99 and 129 would have some previously unavailable :)

Like a free VOIP service or something?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11am AEST
User #225807   338 posts
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Phr33x writes...

Like a free VOIP service or something?

Like 90% of Aussies even know what VOIP stands for... =]

But having a VOIP service in the 129 plan is quite ridiculous, provided they're giving all Australian calls free anyways.

Rather, I'd be leaning towards an international call quota.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 12pm AEST
User #55678   1244 posts
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Will the new plans include shaping instead of excess usage charges?

That is the killer for me recommending the plans to anyone!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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On the new $129 plan shaping will come into play.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
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funkyblue writes...

Will the new plans include shaping instead of excess usage charges?

I doubt it. Although they'd definately get alot more people signing up if it was shaped again. Im glad I got onto the fusion plan before the excess fees were introduced.

EDIT: Just read the above post. Are you sure they'll go back to shaping?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

I doubt it.

As i said above. the $129 30gb plan will having shaping once u exceed the limit.

EDIT: Only the $129 plan. The rest will include excess charges

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
User #221604   315 posts
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There's no way in hell im getting of my old power 20/40gb plan. I dont care about the home phone line, as its hardly used, i need more data dammit!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Medyan writes...

There's no way in hell im getting of my old power 20/40gb plan.

HEAR HEAR! Lol i do what the highest current fusion quota is in UPLOADS every month on my power plan.

Billing Period Ending 31 Mar 08
PEAK 15764 OFF PEAK 20074 UPLOAD 19652

posted 2008-Sep-5, 1pm AEST
User #221604   315 posts
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davecash writes...

HEAR HEAR! Lol i do what the highest current fusion quota is in UPLOADS every month on my power plan.

its only the 5th of the month and i have downloaded 5gb in peak and 26gb in off peak. I usually average 28gb in upload. Ill keep my 9.9mbps and unbundled packages

posted 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
User #14463   2678 posts
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Medyan writes...

its only the 5th of the month and i have downloaded 5gb in peak and 26gb in off peak. I usually average 28gb in upload

flap me that sounds like a heap of shit you must DL!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
User #12145   2083 posts
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Medyan writes...

There's no way in hell im getting of my old power 20/40gb plan. I dont care about the home phone line, as its hardly used, i need more data dammit!

Go to tpg then. Optus would never offer more than 60 gb. As it is 60gb is a lot. Im on the 12/24 plan here

posted 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
User #221604   315 posts
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I was going to do that but the off peak times arent as good and i have heard alot of people have problems with the proxies

posted 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 2pm AEST
User #130242   32 posts
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Bout time we got some decent value out of Optus!!

If not to at least make up for the maze encountered when attempting to have a problem looked at/fixed!

posted 2008-Sep-5, 5pm AEST
User #20589   960 posts
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redline69 writes...

Bout time we got some decent value out of Optus!!

From my usage patterns including both internet/phone, it is still $25+ per month more expensive then the older 12/24GB plans.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 5pm AEST
User #212611   22 posts
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double post by mistake

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #212611   22 posts
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davecash writes...

Unfortunetly not. Only the 129 plan is seeing a higher usage than the 20gb plan. BUT the 99 and 129 include something that was previously unavailable for you phone lovers.

Guess both high-end yes fusion plans include unlimited calls to ALL GSM mobiles?

Now, are the "starter/classic/freedom" internet plans getting a generous Gb increase?

Given the option of 5/6Gb for $39 from mobile broadband available now, I'd guess these plans need to match the alternative market?

posted 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 8pm AEST
User #144807   47 posts
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Yep both the new 99 & 129 fusion packages include unlimited calls to all GSM mobiles. The $79 fusion will now have 4GB, the $89 fusion will now have 10GB. All fusion plans will now include voicemail.

From memory the new internet plans are as follows:

$29.99 2GB
$39.99 5GB
$49.99 7GB (only available through telesales)
$59.99 15GB
$99.99 30GB

All these plans will be shaped after the allowance is exceeded.

No 'free months' are offered with these new plans

There will also be new fusion plans which include a mobile cap. EG $79 fusion + $19 cap plan for $99. You'll pay an extra dollar on your cap plan (because $79 + $19 = $98). The incentive for this kind of bundle is you'll recieve unlimited calls from your mobile to any landline in Australia.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #212611   22 posts
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Thanks datarocked. Through these plans, Optus is trying to be competitive in an aggressive mobile space and the increasing cannibalization threat from VOIP. Think bundling between mobile and internet plans is a natural path given the increasing attractiveness of mobiles relative to landlines within the growing tech-friendly customer segments.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 9pm AEST
User #165522   136 posts
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On second thoughts, these plans suck.
Not even doubling it would tempt me off my grandfather 20/40 plan.

posted 2008-Sep-5, 11pm AEST
User #121032   280 posts
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any new speeds comin with this plan like 30/1??? i want better u/l speed. are these fusion plans for cable?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 2am AEST
User #195317   683 posts
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What I would like to see is an isp do a survey and ask us what we want in the form of multiple choice answers.
I am on fusion 99 with 20GB and if they introduce a $129 for 30GB I don't think I would pay an extra $30 for 10 extra gb

posted 2008-Sep-6, 8am AEST
User #202057   244 posts
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krusty32 writes...

I am on fusion 99 with 20GB and if they introduce a $129 for 30GB I don't think I would pay an extra $30 for 10 extra gb

Probably a better way to go tan $150 per gig in excess charges.

Telstra have a Fusion like offer of 25 gig for $109 plus free calls.
I am on Fusion $99 with shaping not excess. I often run out a few days before the end of the month. So $30 extra maybe OK as I could be freer with my net usage, dunno need to give it some thought.

Would not change if they want a 24 month deal, I am month to month atm and can leave any time.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 10am AEST
User #84256   1104 posts
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I rang up Optus last night, to find out how long is left on my current plan, with the idea to go to anohter providor. and all he kept telling me for about 10 minutes is stick with us for a few more weeks and because "maybe" there are new plans on the way...

Does any one have a firm date when these new plans will take affect. cause TPG is looking better and better everyday for pure downloads

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
User #195317   683 posts
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AFN writes...

Probably a better way to go tan $150 per gig in excess charges.

I dont have excess usage charges got in early

posted 2008-Sep-6, 12pm AEST
User #82561   1007 posts
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Optus has to get a move on and make their plans include more data. the competition are killing them at the moment.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 1pm AEST
User #202057   244 posts
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optra1984 writes...

Optus has to get a move on and make their plans include more data. the competition are killing them at the moment.

If you believe some people here, these Fusion plans are the best thing Optus has done for their customers. Their sales are going through the roof etc, etc, etc.

Personally Optra, I tend to agree with you. Optus need to review their offering as they are out of step with the other ISP's, unless of course they are aim to be a Telstra clone.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 4pm AEST
User #85046   9649 posts
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AFN writes...

Their sales are going through the roof etc, etc, etc.

On the 12 August 2008 Singtel / Optus announced that it has 918,000 (conf: 9188,000) broadband customers – up from about 830,000 customers a year earlier.

http://www.optus.net.au/dafiles/OCA/AboutOptus/MediaCentre/SharedStaticFiles/SharedDocuments/1stqtr-NR0809.pdf

Optus need to review their offering as they are out of step with the other ISP's

The bigger companies only care what the smaller companies are doing when their own business suffers a severe down turn. A growth of 10% in subscriber numbers is not a severe down turn. Companies like Telstra / Singtel-Optus do review there offerings from time to time, but you are unlikely to see radical changes in their product offerings simply because it isn't necessary.

From a broadband internet perspective, Optus clearly went backwards in terms of offerings over time from the Unlimited / Unlimited* days to present time. BUT its subscriber numbers have nearly doubled over that period.

unless of course they are aim to be a Telstra clone.

More like Telstra wanting to be a clone of Singtel.

Cheers :)

posted 2008-Sep-6, 5pm AEST
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I Forgot writes...

Does any one have a firm date when these new plans will take affect

I was speaking to Optus on Friday re cancelling my service and going to Bigpond Extreme (I want the 1000kbps upload speed) and the Optus people assured me the new plans are coming out tomorrow.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 6pm AEST
User #242063   18 posts
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I have been with Exetel on ADSL2 – it seems they no longer want my business and told me to go elsewhere because they can't sustain the plan I was on.

Meanwhile Optus offered to put me on the Fusion $99 plan with the first 6 months discounted by $40.

I am not sure if the benefits of the phone line part actually put me ahead of any other company offering to bundle phone and ADSL2 – it would seem I could work out slightly behind????

Is it worth switching from ADSL2 to Cable?

I am in Maroubra if the exchange matters?

posted 2008-Sep-6, 8pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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AFN writes...

Telstra have a Fusion like offer of 25 gig for $109 plus free calls.

Do they have all calls included though? As far as i know calls to other mobiles are not included.

In regards to the date these new plans are available... I believe its Monday the 8th.

Would not change if they want a 24 month deal, I am month to month atm and can leave any time.

If you want to go onto these plans you should not have to re-contract unless you want a wireless modem or something like that.

These new fusion plans aren't going to suit everyone guys, just like the old fusion plans didn't. What optus are doing are increasing the usage on the new plans and also on the higher plan including calls to all mobiles.

Of course new plans are bound to be coming out in the future. If everyone keeps pushing we will eventually get what we want.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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nowiamhere writes...

Is it worth switching from ADSL2 to Cable?

Is your area an optus cable area? If not they would most likely put you on the direct network which is ADSL2. You can do a sos check on the optus website to find this out.
I believe cable is a more stable than ADSL2. And the only time speed gets reduced is with load on the network. Theirs no distance from the exchange %^&$ to worry about.

I am in Maroubra if the exchange matters?

Mostly depends on distance from the exchange. go to the tpg website and put in your address in to see what kind of speeds customers in your vicinity are getting.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 9pm AEST
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nowiamhere writes...

I am not sure if the benefits of the phone line part actually put me ahead of any other company offering to bundle phone and ADSL2 – it would seem I could work out slightly behind????

If you use your phone only a moderate amount, then it's entirely possible that Fusion isn't for you – and if you don't use your phone much, then Fusion is certainly not the plan for you. The Fusion plans are for people who are medium to high level users of their phone.

Is it worth switching from ADSL2 to Cable?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. On ADSL, speeds are dependant on a lot of factors, but primarily they are impacted by the characteristics of your copper phone line and one of the main characteristics that has an impact is your distance from the local Telstra exchange when the DSLAMs are located (either Telstra's or their competitors). Other than that you have to put up with all the sorts of issues that are part and parcel of using a technology designed to wring the very most they can out of what is a rather archaic technology – twisted copper pairs.

Meanwhile on Cable distance is irrelevant. The main thing that impacts your speed on cable is how many other users are on the same node as you. On the flipside, it runs on the comparatively recent idea of hybrid fibre/co-ax – it's fibre from the Optus exchange to a node somewhere near you (likely somewhere within your suburb), which is why distance is irrelevant. It then runs on co-axial cable from there to your place. This delivery method is completely 100% on Optus infrastructure – it doesn't touch any part of the Telstra network, so if something goes wrong, they don't have to interface with Telstra to try to fix it or haggle over where the problem is.

For any given location you can't tell which would give you more speed and it is something that can change over time.

There are those out there who would value ADSL2+ over cable, while there are others who think such people are bonkers.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 10pm AEST
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davecash writes...

In regards to the date these new plans are available... I believe its Monday the 8th.

Nope... the OP was correct. Sunday 7 September is the day.

Their website doesn't usually reflect new plans right on midnight but typically gets updated during the night... I guess it's a bit like data usage resets really. :)

Keep an eye on the regular broadband plans also, but don't expect anything over 30GB.

posted 2008-Sep-6, 11pm AEST
User #211350   108 posts
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Well something must be happening, When you go to www.optus.com.au and click on internet you hit the plan you want it displays the website is unavailable very interesting.........

posted 2008-Sep-7, 1am AEST
User #225807   338 posts
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mathew2727 writes...

Well something must be happening, When you go to www.optus.com.au and click on internet you hit the plan you want it displays the website is unavailable very interesting.........

New interface for the new plans?

Doesn't take a genius... xD

posted 2008-Sep-7, 2am AEST
User #211350   108 posts
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(TAEDIUM) writes...

New interface for the new plans?

Doesn't take a genius... xD

Well thanks for that brilliant piece of info but i aready worked that one out.
The reason for the post was that after much speculation we are about to get the facts about the the new plans.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3am AEST
User #97340   1137 posts
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I just went to see these new plans, and the site is still down.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10am AEST
User #20589   960 posts
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Skunks Monks writes...

I just went to see these new plans, and the site is still down.

Worked fine for me about 8am and is still OK.

I can't understand why Optus persist in retaining the $300.00 excess data charge for the Fusion plans, it makes the fusion plans a total no go area.

As for the non fusion plans
Optus charge $59.99 for 15GB, then you need to add a phone service, compare this to IINET, $59.99 buys naked ADSL with a 16GB allowance and free local and national VOIP calls.
The Optus plans fall well short of being competitive.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 11am AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 11am AEST
User #179043   22 posts
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You were right there are some new plans

One is advertised today on back page of Sunday Life magazine (The Sun herald)

$30 = 2GB Wireless prepaid you just have to purchase a $199 Wireless modem

Hopefully the DSL plans will also include more or go cheaper

Cheers

Bubbles°

posted 2008-Sep-7, 11am AEST
User #40586   19031 posts
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Bubbles1963 writes...

$30 = 2GB Wireless prepaid you just have to purchase a $199 Wireless modem

That is Optus Pre-paid Wireless – see /forum-replies.cfm?t=1032758

posted 2008-Sep-7, 11am AEST
User #8102   11611 posts
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TicTacToe writes...

If you use your phone only a moderate amount, then it's entirely possible that Fusion isn't for you – and if you don't use your phone much, then Fusion is certainly not the plan for you. The Fusion plans are for people who are medium to high level users of their phone.

Completely untrue. My mother pays $30 per month line rental at the moment with Telstra and has an ADSL1 plan with 1GB for $42/month.

She normally makes $10 in calls per month, so if she changes to Optus Fusion, she is instantly saving money.

I agree with you mostly, but in this case you are wrong.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 12pm AEST
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DigitalOne writes...

can't understand why Optus persist in retaining the $300.00 excess data charge for the Fusion plans, it makes the fusion plans a total no go area.

It's not there on the Fusion Unlimited plan.

Also you can elect to have an SMS message sent to you if you are getting close to your limit, which other ISPs can do that?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 12pm AEST
User #202057   244 posts
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DigitalOne writes...

Worked fine for me about 8am and is still OK.

I can't understand why Optus persist in retaining the $300.00 excess data charge for the Fusion plans, it makes the fusion plans a total no go area.

Yeah, I cannot get on to the site, 1:40pm.

What is the story with Fusion, better, cheaper, more data allowance ?

I agree the $300 excess is out of sync with most providers.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 1pm AEST
User #40295   1253 posts
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Does anyone know why calls to Optus 3G mobiles are not included in calls on the Fusion Plans?

Info on web site specifically refers to calls to Optus GSM mobiles, which suggests calls to (Optus) 3G phones are excluded from the fusion plans.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
User #216859   370 posts
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Bfrank writes...

Does anyone know why calls to Optus 3G mobiles are not included in calls on the Fusion Plans?

Info on web site specifically refers to calls to Optus GSM mobiles, which suggests calls to (Optus) 3G phones are excluded from the fusion plans.

did i read that correctly.

a 3G mobile is a GSM mobile.

so all call to optus mobiles are included

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
User #191586   1038 posts
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refers to calls to Optus GSM mobiles

thought it was calls to Optus non-GSM mobiles that were not included?

Just got this from the website:
Line rental included 
Unlimited standard local calls 
Unlimited standard national long distance calls 
Unlimited calls to Optus GSM mobiles

but on another point, my sister tried to sign up on one of the fusion plans yesterday and was told the service was not available in her area.

I went to the optus website to check, if you check eligibility for a fusion plan it states service not available in her area, yet if you just check to see if you can get optus broadband (not on the fusion plan) it states that you are eligible for optus ADSL2+, her exchange is the edensor park exchange which I believe is optus ADSL2 enabled. Can't figure that one out, can anyone shed some light on this?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
User #8102   11611 posts
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Ozjubb writes...

her exchange is the edensor park exchange which I believe is optus ADSL2 enabled. Can't figure that one out, can anyone shed some light on this?

Either she cannot get ADSL2+ as her telephone service is on a RIM or pair-gain.
Or the exchange is full and there are no more Optus ports available.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
User #191586   1038 posts
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Beer Pimp! writes...

Either she cannot

Thanks for that, was going to call them on her behalf when tomorrow to check, thought it may be something to do with all ports being full.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 3pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Ozjubb writes...

I went to the optus website to check, if you check eligibility for a fusion plan it states service not available in her area, yet if you just check to see if you can get optus broadband (not on the fusion plan) it states that you are eligible for optus ADSL2+, her exchange is the edensor park exchange which I believe is optus ADSL2 enabled. Can't figure that one out, can anyone shed some light on this?

This is quite strange... I would say give optus another call. If the website serviceability check shows she can have ADSL2 then she should be able to have any plan she wanted. I'm guessing she went through to sales. Give them another call tomorrow and see how you go. Although the previous poster may be right in saying there are no ports left. Wont hurt to double check though!

posted 2008-Sep-7, 4pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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TicTacToe writes...

Nope... the OP was correct. Sunday 7 September is the day.

Seems like no fusion plans have been updated as of yet on the website so i am still sticking by what i said previously that they would be available to take up from Monday... I'm pretty sure this is the date i noticed on Friday at work :)

For those of you who are existing customers and who want to update to the new plans you will have to wait for your billing cycle date to come around. Mid-month fusion upgrade is generally not allowed.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 4pm AEST
User #40295   1253 posts
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freddo83 writes...

a 3G mobile is a GSM mobile.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM

GSM differs from its predecessors in that both signalling and speech channels are digital, and thus is considered a second generation (2G) mobile phone system.

I beg to differ that 3G is GSM!

posted 2008-Sep-7, 4pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Bfrank writes...

I beg to differ that 3G is GSM!

In this case it does not matter.Its on the optus network and does not make up one of the excluded call types.

From Fusion T&C'S

"Included Value: Plan excludes the following call types: 19 calls, Calls to non-Optus GSM mobiles, calls
made over another carriers network, calls to CDMA and MobileSAT, International calls, Directory Assistance
and Operator Service calls plus other services such as Voicemail and Unlisted Numbers. Normal call
charges apply to calls and services that are not part of the included value. Offer excludes any equipment
charges"

posted 2008-Sep-7, 5pm AEST
User #202057   244 posts
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I can only get to the internet page on Optus. They say 30gig Professional bundled for $99, is that new or existing?

For some reason I cannot get to the page with all the details. I suppose its still being updated.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 6pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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Professional is the old plan, but it becomes the My 30GB plan.

I haven't seen the website, but today is the day – if you went to an Optus 'yes' shop, Optus World or other retailer they should only have had the revised Fusion plans and the MyBroadband plans available for sale, along with the new Fusion Plus. The previous plans were withdrawn from sale effective today.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 6pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 6pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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AFN writes...

For some reason I cannot get to the page with all the details. I suppose its still being updated.

The site is now up. All the new fusion plans are there. Looks pretty interesting. The 99 and 129 fusion includes calls to ALL gsm mobiles as mentioned previously.

Does anyone know if customers that are already on the 99 Fusion will automatically get switched over to the new bonuses offered in the new 99 fusion? (ie. the unlimited calls to all gsm mobiles).

Or would you have to call up and get it switched over?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

Does anyone know if customers that are already on the 99 Fusion will automatically get switched over to the new bonuses offered in the new 99 fusion? (ie. the unlimited calls to all gsm mobiles).

There is some kind of migration planned as far as i remember. I'm not to sure if this was for the fusion group or the other newly released plans.The old 'yes' fusion plans now appear as archived plans in the system which means there are different codes for the new fusion plans that were just released. So i would say call up customer service tomorrow and ask to be changed to the new ratecode

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

ask to be changed to the new ratecode

Im on the original fusion 99 which didn't charge excess for downloads. If I change over, does that mean I will get charged for excess downloads?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

Im on the original fusion 99 which didn't charge excess for downloads. If I change over, does that mean I will get charged for excess downloads?

Correct... Only the $129 plan will not charge for excess downloads. Do you currently go over your 20gb?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

Do you currently go over your 20gb?

I do. But I generally space out my downloads so I dont get capped till near the end of the month. And i generally stop big downloads when I get capped coz it would just take forever on 128k.

I wouldn't mind going on the 129 Fusion, but since I can't go back to the original 99 Fusion without excess fees, not sure if its a good idea.

At the same time, it kinda sucks as I wont get the new bonuses if I dont switch over to the newer fusion plans.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

I wouldn't mind going on the 129 Fusion, but since I can't go back to the original 99 Fusion without excess fees, not sure if its a good idea.

Do you think you would want to go back once having a bigger quota :P Look there are some ways of getting back onto the older archived plans if your an existing customer and have some tenure. And don't forget you wont have to re contract so your still in good position if u ever wanted to cut and run. Other benefit is the throttle speed on the 129 plan is 256kbps so its slightly more bearable lol

posted 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 8pm AEST
User #24128   224 posts
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Still can't see any change in the plain internet page yet.
Maybe it's still coming.
Hopefully it's there soon.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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berto writes...

Still can't see any change in the plain internet page yet.
Maybe it's still coming.
Hopefully it's there soon.

Go to the main optus site. Then go to internet. Once your there under internet services go to more internet...then hit bundles up the top and it will direct you to the right spot

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #24128   224 posts
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ok i can see the new fusion plans there.
But did the myhome internet plans change at all?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #237190   153 posts
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davecash writes...

Do you think you would want to go back once having a bigger quota

Good point. But I can live with 20GB and save the $30. So I kinda had the idea I would switch between the 99 and 129 every few months.

davecash writes...

there are some ways of getting back onto the older archived plans if your an existing customer and have some tenure.

Hmm.. sounds interesting. But I guess I'm gonna need to decided whether to stay on my original 99 fusion, or be ready to be stuck on 129 (most likely wouldn't dare going on an plans with excess fees)

Anyways, its all up to me now. Thanks for all the tips/advice davecash =)

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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Lee_890 writes...

Does anyone know if customers that are already on the 99 Fusion will automatically get switched over to the new bonuses offered in the new 99 fusion? (ie. the unlimited calls to all gsm mobiles).

Just to make it clear – nobody on any current plan will get automatically migrated to any new plan.

The existing standard Optus practices will apply, ie. if you are on a grandfathered plan you can stay there or even move up and down amongst other plans from the same plan table as the one you are on OR you can choose to migrate to a currently offered plan on the basis that this is a one way trip – you will lose access to grandfathered plans if you choose to do so.

This applies equally to Fusion plans and the MyHome plans.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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berto writes...

But did the myhome internet plans change at all?

They have changed, but for some reason the website is still selling the old ones.

This said, there are not huge changes to the top two plans – the $59.99 MyHome Freedom 15GB plan becomes the $59.99 'yes' My 15GB plan and the $99.99 MyHome Professional 30GB plan becomes the $99.99 'yes' My 30GB plan, with the free months offer gone. The real tinkering occurs below this.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 9pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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In my post i said there MAY be a chance of migration and i dont need to justify where this information came from. And my post was in regards to the 'yes' fusion plans. If you think logically, what would be the point of a customer staying on the now archived 'yes' 79 2GB fusion plan when they can change to the new 'yes' fusion 79 plan with 4GB plan for the same price with exactly the same inclusions?? I rest my case

If there WAS to be any kind of migration it would NOT be from the old fusion plans ( the same one that lee is on) to the new yes fusion plans

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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davecash writes...

In my post i said there MAY be a chance of migration and i dont need to justify where this information came from. And my post was in regards to the 'yes' fusion plans. If you think logically, what would be the point of a customer staying on the now archived 'yes' 79 2GB fusion plan when they can change to the new 'yes' fusion 79 plan with 4GB plan for the same price with exactly the same inclusions?? I rest my case

I'm not bothered on what your basis for posting is, because I always post on a take it or leave it basis myself. :)

Optus has a long history of not migrating people unless they request it. I wouldn't be surprised if they send some targeted promotional material to existing 'yes' Fusion users who could be better off and/or offer some sort of streamlined process to move across. Note that the cancellation charge for cancelling the telephony component increases under the new revised 'yes' Fusion plans. This is what could cause an issue if they wanted to automatically migrate people as it could needlessly give people a possible get out of contract free opportunity as this is a worsening part of the terms and conditions that people could refer to.

Promoting the new plans to existing customers and letting them opt-in removes this opportunity to exit their contracts.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #46638   281 posts
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TicTacToe writes...

Optus has a long history of not migrating people unless they request it.

This case is a bit different. I'm well aware of the fact optus doesn't migrate people unless they request it. However as i said this an exceptional case. The 79 and 89 plan both have increases in data for the same price with no other changes. The 99 plan has no increase in data but has all gsm mobile calls included. This is a win win for existing 'yes' fusion customers. There is nothing for a customer to complain about unless god forbid they don't want more usage. If there is a migration it would not be anything like lets say what LAR TO ULL was. These two represented differences in plans and pricing hence why customers had a choice. Hope that makes a bit more sense

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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davecash writes...

Hope that makes a bit more sense

You obviously were writing this before I edited my above post to clarify what the core reason was. There IS a worsening of one aspect of the conditions, being the cancellation fee for the telephony component. This would expose Optus to having to waive early termination fees for anyone forced to move, for no real reason.

It's not really a big deal... if anyone is on an existing plan and wants to move, they can just call up and move and it will be done for their next billing cycle.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
edited 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #202057   244 posts
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OK I have now looked at the deals.

I am on the $99 original Fusion, shaped after 20 gig and local calls and those to Optus & Virgin mobiles included.

I moved in Sept 2007 from 12/24 to the Fusion plan. I have no contract and am on month to month.

Could I switch to the new $129 Fusion and still stay monthly or do I need to sign a 24 month contract ?

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #97340   1137 posts
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Why is an extra 10GB $30 more??
I was hoping to move up to 30GB with no excess fee's but I cant afford it, I thought it was only going to go up $10ish like the rest of the plans...

Will have to wait for better plans to come hopefully... And plans that don't include uploads...

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST
User #17638   8368 posts
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Skunks Monks writes...

And plans that don't include uploads...

I doubt these will be offered any time soon and I really wouldn't be at all surprised if they're never offered by Optus again.

posted 2008-Sep-7, 10pm AEST