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User #173155   196 posts
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I was reading this morning about the new ABC streaming televison, iView.

They state that they are currently in negotiations with other ISPs to offer ABC iView unmetered to their customers. It looks as though it's going to be a great service, and something that not only will I enjoy but my children as well.

I was just wondering if this is something Comcen/Spin is considering?

Cheers

Jodie

posted 2008-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
User #36650   3401 posts
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On some plans ABC content is unmetered as it comes via pipe most of the time.

posted 2008-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
User #173155   196 posts
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Hi Boostland

With my current plan I do receive free pipe, but I have no idea if iView is run through pipe. Anyone know how to check if it is?

posted 2008-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
User #112974   3843 posts
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Boostland writes...

On some plans ABC content is unmetered as it comes via pipe most of the time.

except for streamig media stuff like this, which ABC are running from Akamai.

posted 2008-Jul-24, 12pm AEST
User #36650   3401 posts
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Quentin Rittman writes...

ABC are running from Akamai

It seems now that they are currently not using Akamai for their streams and the server it comes from for these pages are on pipe.

http://www.abc.net.au/vod/tv/

Tracing route to media1.abc.net.au [202.6.74.108]
over a maximum of 30 hops:]

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home.gateway [10.0.0.100]
2 88 ms 36 ms 39 ms lback9.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.9]
3 46 ms 63 ms 39 ms core-syd-lns2.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.45]
4 88 ms 87 ms 51 ms AS9342.sydney.pipenetworks.com [218.100.2.34]

I also played some of their previews.

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/video/preview.htm#?vid=PRM0063662gruen

Tracing route to flash.abc.net.au [202.6.74.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home.gateway [10.0.0.100]
2 * 165 ms 110 ms lback9.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.9]
3 124 ms 238 ms 146 ms core-syd-lns2.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.45]
4 51 ms 63 ms 149 ms AS9342.sydney.pipenetworks.com [218.100.2.34]

But even when they were using Akamai it has come from a pipe server everytime I have used it in the past, if for some reason it selects a non pipe server you can change your DNS servers to iiNet or Internode and then it should force it to come from a pipe server ;)

posted 2008-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
edited 2008-Jul-24, 1pm AEST
User #137248   735 posts
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I just watched an episode of Brat Camp, and was paying special attention to my usage meter, and that show definitely came through Pipe and was free data.

Its been the same story for me with all of the ABC's podcasts and vodcasts, all free Pipe data, so I for one am very pleased with this! Thanks comcen!

posted 2008-Jul-24, 5pm AEST
edited 2008-Jul-24, 5pm AEST
User #36650   3401 posts
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Just checked the iView streams and it seems to be coming from a US based Akamai server rather than a local content server.

Tracing route to a139.vi5g1.akafms.net [72.247.247.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.100
2 36 ms 31 ms 43 ms lback9.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.9]
3 28 ms 30 ms 28 ms core-syd-lns2.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.45]
4 38 ms 28 ms 29 ms vlan551.22rrc76f000.optus.net.au [59.154.10.17]
5 201 ms 187 ms 189 ms paix.akamai.com [198.32.176.127]
6 188 ms 191 ms 187 ms a72-247-247-116.deploy.akamaitechnologies.com [72.247.247.116]

I switched my DNS servers to the iiNet ones and did a ipconfig /flushdns then ran iView again and found it was coming from the iiNet Akamai servers.

Tracing route to a139.vi5g1.akafms.net [203.206.129.37]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.100
2 28 ms 29 ms 28 ms lback9.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.9]
3 42 ms 30 ms 29 ms core-syd-lns2.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.45]
4 29 ms 39 ms 39 ms AS4802.sydney.pipenetworks.com [218.100.2.69]
5 31 ms 30 ms 39 ms te1-4.syd-ult-bdr1.ii.net [203.215.20.31]
6 35 ms 28 ms 33 ms po1.syd-ult-akamaisw1.ii.net [203.215.16.53]
7 29 ms 30 ms 28 ms 203-206-129-37.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net [203.206.129.37]

posted 2008-Jul-24, 9pm AEST
User #82819   4029 posts
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Is there anything similiar to iView? It's awesome!

posted 2008-Jul-25, 2pm AEST
User #137248   735 posts
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davidw89 writes...

Is there anything similiar to iView? It's awesome!

Maybe in a year or two the commercial networks will catch-up with the ABC.

posted 2008-Jul-25, 9pm AEST
User #81323   503 posts
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itsross writes...

Maybe in a year or two the commercial networks will catch-up with the ABC.

They will but at a price (Not only to your download limit).

posted 2008-Jul-25, 10pm AEST
User #81259   1341 posts
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I was just going to ask if ABCiView was going to be a free service.
I personally am going to blow my 40 gig out of the water each month if it is not.
With my 5 year old the cartoons will be a big hit and will get watched a lot.
I don't know if it will come through the Pipe network so if someone from Comcen would like to comment as to clear up the confusion it would be appreciated

posted 2008-Aug-14, 6pm AEST
User #35472   1698 posts
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Sparkie writes...

I don't know if it will come through the Pipe network

Yes, the transit to ABC's iView is all via PIPE. They had some speed issues with the iiNet akamai mirror that we get a few weeks ago (even iiNet customers could only get 500-700kbps from it), however that seems to have been fixed and it's back to a great service now.

posted 2008-Aug-14, 10pm AEST
User #230940   376 posts
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ABC iview is great and so far it has been piped for me which is great as i get free unmetered pipe Yea ha.

posted 2008-Aug-14, 11pm AEST
User #77814   23 posts
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That's all well and good for those who do get free pipe, but is there any news for those of us on ADSL2 who don't get free pipe?

posted 2008-Aug-15, 7am AEST
User #35472   1698 posts
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Princess writes...

That's all well and good for those who do get free pipe, but is there any news for those of us on ADSL2 who don't get free pipe?

Those who don't get free PIPE have it go into their (larger) unmetered quota no matter what time they consume the data.

posted 2008-Aug-15, 8am AEST
User #77814   23 posts
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CRC writes...

Those who don't get free PIPE have it go into their (larger) unmetered quota no matter what time they consume the data.

I realise this, but I also realise that streaming video can quickly eat up that larger quota, especially if it's decent quality video :(

posted 2008-Aug-16, 7am AEST
User #230940   376 posts
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as i understand it you go on your offpeak quota, not sure how much is counted either all or half, and yes streaming video does use a lot of quota

posted 2008-Aug-16, 7am AEST
User #19466   2249 posts
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Princess writes...

I realise this, but I also realise that streaming video can quickly eat up that larger quota, especially if it's decent quality video :(

The only ISP that it is offering it as Free is iiNet – and thats because they were heavily involved in hosting the files – and have expensive hardware in place to facilitate this. iiNet do not allow it as Free for the newly purchased sister company Westnet. The files are actually hosted on iiNets Akamai Servers.

SPIN/COMCEN have allowances for PIPE data (of which iView comes through on – aka iiNet Network). No other ISP is offering iView as either unmetered data or off peak data (no matter when you watch it).

Post with your similiar complaints have been popping up through EVERY ISP area and they have all been answered to death. Its the old case of wanting more for less. SPIN/COMCEN are able to offer quite a good set of plans that cover iView (by proxy – aka PIPE Data).

Internode themselves are not even offering this as a free service – even though they used to offer ABC as Free. You can read more on this situation with some very informative posts through out here – /forum-replies.cfm?t=1019702

AuS

posted 2008-Aug-16, 8am AEST
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