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ABC have just release their brand new iView service for all of Australia to enjoy. We've been playing with the beta version of it for a little while now and we really like it, so we've made it part of the iiNet Freezone. You can view all the content on iView quota free – right now.

Head to the Media Lounge and click on the ABC iView Link in the TV section:

http://www.iinet.net.au/my/media/mc-tv.html

What's on there?

Right now, the most recently aired episodes of BBC shows like The Bill and Doctor Who. Local programming like The New Inventors, The Gruen Transfer and ABC documentaries, arts programs, childrens cartoons and news.

All the video is at about 700kbps bitrate and requires Adobe FlashPlayer to view.

Enjoy!

-wob

AWESOME!

Thanks iiNet! :)

Gorgeous interface, but struggling to maintain the stream on my 5.6Mbps connection. I'll try it again in a few hours, in case its related to load or an outdated flash player at my end.

EDIT – Fixed by the classic reboot trick, with everything now running at full speed.

Wow. Nice work iiNet!

Glad I'm with iiNet. Keep the new stuff coming. :D

it is absolutely awesome! thanks heaps iinet!

Fantastic ... just heard about it on the news.

Well done iiNet! Staying on top of the game right there.

Love it. Watching Dr Who right now :)

GOAT

iinet is the best ever. this site is amazing. television is dead to me.

Whats with the rotating "0" in the crosshair?

this is so cool! many thanks iiNet!

Please tell me Naturally Sadie is going to be on there soon...

Just not working for me:(
Any ideas please. (I have just downloaded the latest adobe flash)

Looking better than when in Beta. The fact that this is iiNet freezone is awesome.

However I was wondering if anyone else is getting this in some cases:

Sorry
Due to copyright reasons this video program is available for download by people located in Australia only. If you are not located in Australia, you are not authorised to view this video.

This is from the 'Video introduction' link in the help pane.

Thanks, well done.

Overcoming the Majors

When was that introduced?

Eek! Bad news from here.

Definitely using iiNet's DNS here, but just burned 220MB of quota watching Doctor Who. For some reason, it's not registering as freezone here.

banshee315 writes...

Just not working for me:(

Me too. I'm stuck on a spinning crosshair :(
(sucks to have a 2mbit connection)

banshee315 writes...

Just not working for me:(

Don't tell me.... rotating cross hairs with a segment moving round the circle.... and that's all....

Same here FF3.... latest version of Flash as well.

(on a 17Mbps connection)

Jeremy Visser writes...

Definitely using iiNet's DNS here, but just burned 220MB of quota watching Doctor Who. For some reason, it's not registering as freezone here.

Yes, I've just had usage of 140mb added to my quota. Oh dear :s

EDIT #2: It did at usage.

I'm sure it will be all fixed by the morning.
Cheers IInet

Fast is good writes...

(on a 17Mbps connection)

I'm on a similar connection, and I'm not having any problems with it.

(Ross) writes...

Jeremy Visser writes...Yes, I've just had usage of 140mb added to my quota. Oh dear :s

^^ i better not be getting slugged for this usuage :O. im sure they will fix it.

this being said.... does anyone else find it annoying that you cant skip forward :(.

Top job,

With this and nasa tv in the freezone and the recent quota upgrade it has made the plans a lot more value for money.

Keep up the good work

Straitup writes...

this being said.... does anyone else find it annoying that you cant skip forward :(.

Forward seeking worked fine for me.

Jeremy Visser writes...

Forward seeking worked fine for me.

are you using ie7 or firefox. maybe its program dependant or show dependant. i havent been able to skip forward on either insiders or foreign correspondent.

banshee315 writes...

Whats with the rotating "0" in the crosshair?

ABC are having a couple of teething issues it would seem, the player isn't working for everyone. They'll sort it out ASAP I'm sure.

Ψ Fungus Ψ writes...

Overcoming the Majors

When was that introduced?

/forum-replies.cfm?t=1016413

:)

Jeremy Visser writes...

Definitely using iiNet's DNS here, but just burned 220MB of quota watching Doctor Who. For some reason, it's not registering as freezone here.

That should not be possible. Are you able to tell what IP address you're streaming from (using something like TCPView or Wireshark) ?

Nick 'wob' Turner writes...

They'll sort it out ASAP I'm sure.

Just a quick question. Is the old shows stored?

For example, will they still have this week's show, next week?

/forum-replies.cfm?t=1016413

Oh alright. Thanks.

Nick 'wob' Turner writes...

That should not be possible. Are you able to tell what IP address you're streaming from (using something like TCPView or Wireshark) ?

I'll do this for you shortly. Mine has definitely added usage (310mb Peak) as a result, as well as some freezone...

firefox.exe:3856 TCP default-pc:58101
203-206-129-38.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net:1935 ESTABLISHED
202.6.74.96:http ESTABLISHED

is that useful?

(Ross) writes...

is that useful?

Are you using iiNet DNS?

(Ross) writes...

203-206-129-38.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net:

Thats what I get, shows up as freezone for me

Ψ Fungus Ψ writes...

Just a quick question. Is the old shows stored?

Some shows have a little down arrow in the top left on the program info window, if you click that you can view older episodes. I'm not sure how long for at this stage, I do know that there are 2 Dr Who episodes available though :)

(Ross) writes...

firefox.exe:3856 TCP default-pc:58101
203-206-129-38.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net:1935 ESTABLISHED
202.6.74.96:http ESTABLISHED

is that useful?

Yes it is, thanks for that.

I get 203-206-129-39.deploy.akamaitechnologies.net — just one digit different.

this is frakkin awesome iinet. you just get better and better.

Nick 'wob' Turner writes...

Some shows have a little down arrow in the top left on the program info window, if you click that you can view older episodes.

Thanks for that clarification, Nick.

this is fantastic. Loving all the new freezone stuff we're getting.

Doesn't work here same as others 0 spining crosshair. Thanks though will take a look Thursday sometime.

Thanks iiNet for making it free usage.
Thanks ABC for putting up so much content at such a good bitrate within such a good medium.

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/ is where iinet links directly to...albeit they're making sure the data to/from is free for us :)

I just checked my quota usage and I believe some of the iView is being counted as normal data – most is in the freezone.

Wow, so very very impressive. Absolutely awesome to see this from ABC in the first place, and iiNet for counting it in the freezone. Takes the edge of my recent negative experiences somewhat

Ray

I've been playing around for an hour now – I've sucked down about 400meg – all freezone.

Anyone else being asked for login name/password ?
Used my toolbox login details, now its saying 'incorrect login 3 times'...wait 20 mins and try again.

neko1chun writes...

Anyone else being asked for login name/password ?
Used my toolbox login details, now its saying 'incorrect login 3 times'...wait 20 mins and try again.

It's not an iiNet site, why would you use your iiNet login? It's freezone sure, but it's still an ABC site. You have to register with them...

Ray

Ray Macey writes...

It's not an iiNet site, why would you use your iiNet login? It's freezone sure, but it's still an ABC site. You have to register with them...

ABC iView doesn't require login anyway. ABC Playback did when it was in closed beta, but it definitely doesn't now.

Perhaps you need the login details to save a playlist, but as Ray says, that would definitely not be your iiNet login details.

iiNet is starting to pick up its game ;)

Thankyou iinet your the best!

Jeremy Visser writes...

Eek! Bad news from here.

Definitely using iiNet's DNS here, but just burned 220MB of quota watching Doctor Who. For some reason, it's not registering as freezone here.

Please email me your details

username:
what you viewed:
And during what time period.

We will investigate this as a matter of urgency.

Any other whirlpoolians experiencing the same thing? Please email me with the same details.

Regards
Paul Josephs

Jeremy Visser writes...

but as Ray says, that would definitely not be your iiNet login details.

Thanks, about to try again. Can't understand why I couldn't proceed without logging in last time.

Edit: All OK now. Must have been because I was trying to go through the full playlist of all sections. *shrugs*

neko1chun writes...

Anyone else being asked for login name/password ?
Used my toolbox login details, now its saying 'incorrect login 3 times'...wait 20 mins and try again.

Did you use the old ABC site when it was in Beta? That needed a login name and if you are still using that cached player that might be what's causing your problem.

Try clearing your cache and re-visiting the site.

banshee315 writes...

Whats with the rotating "0" in the crosshair?

That's a % loaded display. "0" means it's stuck at "0% loaded".

I sync at 5mbps and mine jumps 0 – 26 – 58..., all loaded in about 5 seconds.

PS: Great news about iView. I also just discovered NASA TV in the freezone (I should come back here more often – I'm a TV lounge junkie).

Chris Rigby writes...

Did you use the old ABC site when it was in Beta?

Thanks Chris, that was obviously the problem:)

neko1chun writes...

Must have been because I was trying to go through the full playlist of all sections.

Creating a playlist requires you to register and login. But you can still access a list of all shows by going through the menu.

whim sent to you Ross

I've tried three different browsers after installing the adobe flash player, mine just stays stuck on the rotating cross hair with the '0' inside.

I'm on a 124.X.X.X IP

Ψ Fungus Ψ writes...

I just checked my quota usage and I believe some of the iView is being counted as normal data – most is in the freezone.

Same with me, except that more than half is going against peak quota :(

CJ writes...

Same with me, except that more than half is going against peak quota :(

But some is going freezone??? thats strange

Mike.H writes...

stuck on the rotating cross hair with the '0' inside.

Same here – Also getting a 124.x.x.x IP. Get the same if I try to use iView directly from ABC web site (http://www.abc.net.au/iview/)

Maybe ABC does not handle these addresses properly......

Aardvark56 writes...

Get the same if I try to use iView directly from ABC web site (http://www.abc.net.au/iview/)

Yeah, that doesn't work for me either.

Not critical, but I am curious to see what is available.

narx writes...

But some is going freezone??? thats strange

OK, at some point, possibly while I had the video paused to come here, it stopped recording it as Freezone altogether.

The 460MB video wound up being split 346MB Peak 114MB Freezone. Looks like this still needs a little work :(

Second time lucky and it worked for me, thanks iinet!

This is a great value add

Well done iiNet

Thanks IINET, you are the fuhrer of broadband!

HEIL IINET!, HEIL IINET! HEIL IINET!

when IINET expands overseas. the world will hold its breath!

I'm more interested in the news and current affairs shows and this site has proven quite excellent for getting my fix of daily news.

The only problem is that flash video is extremely processor intensive and can make the browser unstable after extended use. I got a blue screen after watching the 7.30 report and 7.00pm news. Using Firefox 3, latest updates and Vista SP1. What is everyone else's experience?

A Modest Proposal writes...

What is everyone else's experience?

Agreed. I just have an old 2.8Ghz P4 in this box and with the video full screen in IE7 it was running about 70% CPU.

I've noticed the same with the videos on the NBC site.

CJ writes...

Agreed. I just have an old 2.8Ghz P4 in this box and with the video full screen in IE7 it was running about 70% CPU.

I'm running a 3.4GHZ P4 and I'm getting the same experience. Flash video isn't processor optimised, unlike Real and WMV streams.

Mike.H writes...

I've tried three different browsers after installing the adobe flash player, mine just stays stuck on the rotating cross hair with the '0' inside.

I'm on a 124.X.X.X IP

Ditto. Tried IE and Firefox on 2 computers.

the internet is behaving a bit strangely this morning.. try it again in a few hours

Still ain't working properly, youtube, iiNet website, both are not loading properly.

Working under Windows, not working under Linux (Ubuntu)

Does anyone have a Linux fix? Cant see where it would "only" be a Windows thing as it is Flash driven. I have the latest non-free flash plugin

Sweetness :D
Gotta admit, I am getting slightly worried but. You've always been the perfect mix between value and quality. Surely something as to give with all these new free services?
Don't get me wrong, appreciate the lovely freeness, just have a nagging concern far in the background as they do seem to be stacking up en masse.

Thank-you iiNet!

Internode have commented on why iiNet customers are the only ones likely to enjoy this unmetered in the near future.

Go iiNet!

EDIT: Reloaded and working now. Ignore me :)

Thanks iiNet. This is fantastic!

Just a quick (dumb) question. To make sure the usage is counted in freezone, must I access iView through the iiNet website, or can I access it directly from the ABC website?

Schmikel writes...

Internode have commented on why iiNet customers are the only ones likely to enjoy this unmetered in the near future.

Simon Hackett writes...

iiNet are unmetering the ABC, and AFAIK they're the only ones to be doing so – and thats because they happen to have set up their customer edge network a little differently to others, and they have some (very expensive) additional hardware installed at their customer edge that is capable of doing unmetering at a deeper granularity than source IP address.

That wouldn't happen to be Cisco equipment, would it?

If it is, I guess you get what you pay for.

Well done iiNet again!

You are quoting significantly more words than you have written.

Jeeves Melchington writes...

this is frakkin awesome iinet

LOL, are you a fans of battlestar galactica by any chance :)?

Thanks iinet for getting this quota free.

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Good work ABC and iiNet!

I think it's taken way to long for Australian free to air tv to be available on the net "legally". lol

Nice interface, free traffic. Awesome.

- SyKO

THANKS iinet.

Just started to watch the ABC programs from it's website last week. This will enable me to catch up with a lot more episodes I have missed.

Keep up the great work and I will enjoy!

Red Jack Rackham writes...

Working under Windows, not working under Linux (Ubuntu)

Does anyone have a Linux fix? Cant see where it would "only" be a Windows thing as it is Flash driven. I have the latest non-free flash plugin

works fine here under 64-bit Ubuntu, latest hardy stable build (8.04)

I'm using opera, and the latest non-free flash plugin.

Opera version information

------------------------------
Version information
Version 9.51
Build 2061
Platform Linux
System x86_64, 2.6.24-19-generic
Qt library 3.3.8b
Java Java Runtime Environment installed

Linux Kernel Information

----------------------------
zyrorl@zyrorl-laptop:~$ uname -a
Linux zyrorl-laptop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 21:01:46 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux

If its of any further consolation, it also works under firefox (which i dont use much).

Firefox version details: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008061017 Firefox/3.0

Good stuff guys. In the past, some of the stuff in Freezone has been fairly 'special interest', but access to this is good news for everyone.

Hats off to the ABC too. This is an incredibly slick implementation of online video. They're leading the way (by a long distance!) in this country with online TV. Its amazing what you can achieve when you don't have commercial concerns and shareholders hanging over your head ;)

Sets the bar for the other networks. They need to do something like this too, obviously with ads though.

Musk writes...

Hats off to the ABC too.

Its amazing what you can achieve when you don't have commercial concerns and shareholders hanging over your head ;)

That's my and your taxes at work mate!

i just noticed then that only a small portion of the data was freezone and i lost about 300mb off peak and 150mb peak

LTMT writes...

i just noticed then that only a small portion of the data was freezone and i lost about 300mb off peak and 150mb peak, not happy

Are you definitely using iiNet's DNS servers? Certain freezone content won't be counted correctly unless you are.

tisah writes...

That's my and your taxes at work mate!

Yeah, too true!

Michael Davis writes...

Are you definitely using iiNet's DNS servers? Certain freezone content won't be counted correctly unless you are.

dns in the router is 0.0.0.0 which im guessing is an auto setting

status says – Primary DNS: 203.0.178.191 Secondary DNS: 203.215.29.191

LTMT writes...

dns in the router is 0.0.0.0 which im guessing is an auto setting

status says – Primary DNS: 203.0.178.191 Secondary DNS: 203.215.29.191

and on your PC? A few cases where people have reported issues they have been running with another ISP's DNS server stored somewhere.

If your PC is set to Auto or hard coded to 203.0.178.191 you should be ok.

Michael Davis writes...

Are you definitely using iiNet's DNS servers? Certain freezone content won't be counted correctly unless you are.

Hope I don't come across as being rude but he's one of a few people reporting additional usage outside of the free zone (myself included :p). I'm aware the techies are working on things though (from a whim by another iiRep) so I'll wait and see what comes out of it.

I think somethings not right though :)

Michael Davis writes...

If your PC is set to Auto or hard coded to 203.0.178.191 you should be ok.

In the connections properties its set to auto ip and auto dns.

Hi WP,

This was checked previously and was appearing in the Freezone, however based on the reports above we have engineers double checking everything.

Thank you for your pateince, more info to come.

Video killed the radio star so Broadband killed the TV star? :P

Thanks for including iView in the Freezone – saw the article on the ABC news last night, checked out the site but was worried about impact on my d/l limits – worry not!

Best addition ever! Hopefully they keep full seasons of episodes up, wouldn't mind seeing last seasons episodes of Gruen Transfer. Can't wait for Chasers episodes too.

Now we only need SBS content (Top Gear FTW).

Thanks iiNet.

This is a great addition to the freezone.

Thanks guys.

Richie writes...

Now we only need SBS content (Top Gear FTW)

+1

Greedy little buggers, aren't we? The ABC content is seriously good free content, yet soon as I hear 'Top Gear' I start salivating....

LTMT writes...

just noticed then that only a small portion of the data was freezone and i lost about 300mb off peak and 150mb peak, not happy

That's what surprised me as well. I only watched a single video, yet it still split the usage between quota and Freezone, with most going into quota. The sum of both figures was correct for the file size.

Any way to get this working in XBMC?

How awesome would this be if it could work on a PS3 and displayed on your TV! If someone can get it to work with a PS3 I would praise them.

Thanks iiNet! I just watched few Docs from the iView last night :)

PS:I checked my usage and they are in the freezone.

Checked it out at work today and it's awesome, but I'm currently shaped and it's not ignoring the shaping like NASA TV and the other freezone content normally does.

Can someone from iiNet confirm if it's supposed to only work if you're unshaped?

Thanks!

Just tried this out and its awesome.

First NASA and now this..

It just keeps getting better.

Love the documentaries and Richard Morecroft's narration :)

If NBA came along OMG that would nail it for sure...

Can't you just use the PS3 web browser to browse to it? It supports flash doesn't it?

aegix writes...

Can't you just use the PS3 web browser to browse to it? It supports flash doesn't it?

Yeah it needs the latest version, this can only be updated with a PS3 firmware update, crossing fingers its in 2.5

Very cool indeed! Thanks iiNet! Any plans for ABC podcasts and vodcasts to go on the Freezone?

zyrorl writes...

works fine here under 64-bit Ubuntu, latest hardy stable build (8.04)

I'm using opera, and the latest non-free flash plugin.

Must be my hardware – running on an Athlon 3500xp and an 8500GT gpu – the picture is really really stuttering.

On my Windows AMD 6000x2 is running sweet as.

I am very happy with iiNet lately. Doing an awesome job really lifting the game!

Over time if you could add more channels, possibly sports like NRL games etc would be really great.

great service provider!

Red Jack Rackham writes...

Must be my hardware – running on an Athlon 3500xp and an 8500GT gpu – the picture is really really stuttering.

On my Windows AMD 6000x2 is running sweet as.

My notebook specs aren't exactly awesome but:

model name: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T5750 @ 2.00GHz (per core)
MemTotal: 4050164 kB
VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS (rev a1)
Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14)
Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)

Still able to stream it without any issues

.

Grant writes...

Checked it out at work today and it's awesome, but I'm currently shaped and it's not ignoring the shaping like NASA TV and the other freezone content normally does.

Can someone from iiNet confirm if it's supposed to only work if you're unshaped?

Thanks!

Well I'm currently shaped as well and it works a treat. Absolutely full speed!

I accessed iview through ABC's site thinking it would be crippled and was baffled why it detected my speed as being full, knowing that I was shaped. After running it, I checked my toolbox but I was still shaped, so then looked for any iinet news about it and discovered it had been added to freezone.

Thankyou iinet!!!!!!

Perfect! Thanks ii!

Now it's waiting for Enough Rope to appear...

And nice to know ii are so far the only ISP (according to the ABC website) that offer this in freezone. Well done ii!

Richie writes...

wouldn't mind seeing last seasons episodes of Gruen Transfer.

That would be difficult as it only started 4 or 5 weeks ago ;)

Great freezone stuff there Iinet, a stupid but to me kind of neccessary question as I'm getting a more constant stream direct from the ABC site and I've noticed some folk have there usage there counted, do we need to use the iinet portal for it to stay in free usage of is it fine going direct to the ABC?

xjjohnno writes...

do we need to use the iinet portal for it to stay in free usage of is it fine going direct to the ABC?

From the conditions of use Please note that although ABC iView is located in the iiNet Freezone, the ABC's other content is still counted towards your quota.

Which means that while it should be in freezone without using the portal they won't commit to it being free.

thanks iinet.

you guys/gals rock

smart move for IINET ( in a long time.. ) well done !!!!
this is the way to promote local network content.
What we need is a solid local content provider and cheap access to these services.

this is the future.

Dark Samurai {Loud} writes...

Which means that while it should be in freezone without using the portal they won't commit to it being free.

The freezone portal just uses an iframe pointing to http://abc.net.au/iview ([sic] missing trailing slash — the iframe's src is wrong), but yeah, it could change in the future.

This new ABC iView in the Freezone is great! Picture comes through very crisp on my 22" widescreen LCD. I am on about 3800kbps download speed... Thanks iiNet :-)

Well done iiNet well done! Thanks for being my and Australia's internet super hero!

awesome thanks iinet for all the great free content :)

Nick 'wob' Turner writes...

ABC have just release their brand new iView service for all of Australia to enjoy. We've been playing with the beta version of it for a little while now and we really like it, so we've made it part of the iiNet Freezone. You can view all the content on iView quota free – right now.

Wonderful!

I am a fan of Dr. Who but I often miss it. I have to download from internet which my young son says is not right. Now I can catch up!.

Well done iiNET.

BTW, can you save the streaming program from ABC. In particular some program from Australian story is good and inspirational.

semiold writes...

BTW, can you save the streaming program from ABC.

I think you'll find that the terms and conditions from the ABC don't really allow for that.

Just wondering would there be any reason why iview won't work behind a proxy?

I-Bin Pharteen writes...

This new ABC iView in the Freezone is great! Picture comes through very crisp

I agree, it looks good. I was really surprised by that, I expected classic blocky low-res production but the ABC have done a grand job really.

Anyone worked out how long it takes the News to be updated, went for a look last night at 7pm but still the lunchtime news update?

re: iiGrover accessing via freezone as opposed to via ABC Site:

I'm not sure about this either, however I have only been accessing via freezone and from what I can see in usage; it hasn't added anything to my peak quota. I would stick to freezone just to be sure.

Thanks iiNet, great service.

Jeremy Visser writes...

The freezone portal just uses an iframe pointing to http://abc.net.au/iview ([sic] missing trailing slash — the iframe's src is wrong), but yeah, it could change in the future.

*cough* What missing slash? :)

Adam Harvey writes...

What missing slash? :)

welcome ;)

It is very, very nice... especially in freezone!

Yowsa it munches some resources though! (This is watching the Einstein factor)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1865/iviewresourcesbm9.png

That's on an e2160 @ 2.88ghz, firefox 3.01, vista64, 7800GT.

It plays back fairly nicely on my beefcake system – but I'm not surprised if it has issues on lower end ones....

Quite a lot of dropped frames on my HTPC (Athlonxp 3000+ / 1GB RAM / WinXP Pro / ATI 9600xt)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6315/iviewathlonhd4.png

It definately needs some optimisation! I mean, 720p h.264 playback uses less resources when using CoreAVC.

keep dat free sh!t coming :) love ur work iinet