Whirlpool

Yes i expect "why another thread" but lets leave this open for iTunes applications for the iPhone and not about the iPhone itself? – since heck its something we will all be looking at soon :D

Its now open: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/apple-app-store-now-live/

hmm now what apps i want :D

out of the 500 i'm sure most will be crap or either a duplicate. Having said that there will be some treats for sure.

another article – http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/07/10/steve-jobs-app-store-with-500-iphone-applications-quarter-are-free/

25% of the apps are free
90% are under 9.99$ (USD presumably)

1/3 of the apps are games (which suggests around 150-200 games at launch!)

most stupid app would be the flash light application. Is basically is just a white screen, yet they actually want people to pay $1,20 for it.

Hmmm, wouldn't mind a Remote Desktop app (VNC) and perhaps a PDF reader (not sure if the iPhone already supports this?)

jameswalker writes...

most stupid app would be the flash light application. Is basically is just a white screen, yet they actually want people to pay $1,20 for it.

how about imilk!!!
app store >entertainment >imilk

jameswalker writes...

most stupid app would be the flash light application. Is basically is just a white screen, yet they actually want people to pay $1,20 for it.

The thing about that though is that its easy money for them. Probably would have taken under 30mins to program (not a programmer so just guessing)

Currently 6million iphone users, by years end 10mill+. They would only need to a few kids to download the gimmick to make a fair bit

Each sale they'd get 0.84c (USD) – say 2000/year out of a few million iphone users – and easy $1.6k

If you have a look at another useless app – iamanda (article referring to it here – http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/07/10/ipointless-ibeer-and-iamanda-apps-for-the-iphone-videos/)

$4.99 download cost – ie developer makes around $3.50 – you would easily get 10k people downloading the app if all the late night premium sms stuff is any indication (app is bikini clad woman washing the iphone screen lol).

Just browsing through it now, got some nice free apps :)

-Kristijan

I use my current phone quite a bit to provide a short burst of light so I don't think the app is useless, but there is a free flashlight so I'd get that one rather than paying.

DeForest writes...

I use my current phone quite a bit to provide a short burst of light so I don't think the app is useless, but there is a free flashlight so I'd get that one rather than paying.

here here to that no point paying for one :"d

MMS app?

Bluetooth/teathered modem app?

M1-A2 writes...

MMS app?

there is one for unlocked iPhones

M1-A2 writes...

MMS app?

Bluetooth/teathered modem app?

The apps are largely limited to the functionality of the iphone do not expect anything too ground breaking

M1-A2 writes...

Bluetooth/teathered modem app?

Wait so you can't use the iphone as a bluetooth modem? :(

I was planning to connect it to my mac and use it for net while waiting for dsl2 change over.

how u browsing the app store now?

Eps writes...

Wait so you can't use the iphone as a bluetooth modem? :(

I was planning to connect it to my mac and use it for net while waiting for dsl2 change over.

You can use it as a wireless modem, setup a proxy on it and use the 3G connection that way. Look up "Tiny Proxy" for iPhone – works on the first gen :)

rossco74 writes...

how u browsing the app store now?

click this link: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=281704574&mt=8

Just had a quick look through, and gee- most of those applications are very basic and "lame". Seems 95% of them could be done through a web browser and have no need for an actual "application" apart from the fact they want to make a few bucks.

Few of the games will probably be fun for people who want that out of their iphone, but honestly, I can't see anything I'd want to download, money isn't the issue.

I was expecting some apps that actually added decent functionality.

iB3nji writes...

click this link: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=281704574&mt=8

thanks heaps

jameswalker writes...

most stupid app would be the flash light application. Is basically is just a white screen, yet they actually want people to pay $1,20 for it.

Actually.. Adobe Flash isn't yet supported on the iPhone. Flash Apps won't run.

rossco74 writes...

how u browsing the app store now?

you can browse it after you install itunes 7.7

I'm browsing on 7.6.2.9

Lord Ultra writes...

Actually.. Adobe Flash isn't yet supported on the iPhone. Flash Apps won't run.

Haha :)

Lord Ultra writes...

Actually.. Adobe Flash isn't yet supported on the iPhone. Flash Apps won't run.

Hint: it has nothing to do with Adobe Flash...

some interesting apps that may be useful to some people
- voice recording (fills a missing iphone function)
- phrasebooks in various languages when you travel
- english/other language dictionaries
- internet radio tuner

somehow I was hoping for more :) – still its early days

I've just downloaded a few free apps. I grabbed Bloomberg, Box Office, Currency, Dial Zero, eReader, Expense2GO, Exposure, Funambol, If Found, Light, Local Picks, NetNewsWire, NY Times, PayPal, PhoneSaber, Remote, reQall, SalesForce Mobile, UrbanSpoon and WeatherBug.

A fair few of the apps seem to be either US-centric, or not Aussie-centric enough to be useful, unless when travelling. Some of the ones I've downloaded I doubt I will use more than just opening them once and having a look at what other developers have come up with.

such a large number of these applications are junk though, cant beleive flashlight is $1.20 lol you can get a free version if you have a unlocked iPhone

iB3nji writes...

flashlight

Get Light instead, its free... =)

Btw could anyone find the google app mentioned here???

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/app-store-hands-on-notable-apps/

Sunny writes...

Btw could anyone find the google app mentioned here???

odd.... i cant see it either

Dang, i was hoping for something like Brain Challenge for the ipod

a lot of the us 99cent stuff looks like crap however some of the free stuff looks really good!

Is super monkey ball there?

It better be...

Wojtek writes...

Dang, i was hoping for something like Brain Challenge for the ipod

in games there is a maths quiz game which might be something along the lines of what you are after

Just saw an app called Shazam which looks pretty interesting – allows you to identify music that you hear (from tv, radio, in a store etc) – gives you title, artist etc and allows you to purchase songs etc

Spaztikdude writes...

Is super monkey ball there?

It is, and it costs AU$12.99 if memory serves. I'll most likely be buying it tomorrow when I get my hands on my iPhone.

Spaztikdude writes...

Is super monkey ball there?

yup – $12.99

Spaztikdude writes...

Is super monkey ball there?

It better be...

yep and all 5 worlds and 110 levels

Sunny writes...

Btw could anyone find the google app mentioned here???

It's only on the US App Store, not the AU one. I just changed to the US iTunes Store, searched for "Google" and found it. It asks you to log in, and if you use your AU account, it tells you it's not available in the Aussie App Store and bounces you back.

can you buy the apps using itunes gift cards?

for eg the ones on sale at big w ($50 credit for $30)

Sunny writes...

Btw could anyone find the google app mentioned here???

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/app-store-hands-on-notable-apps/

Only there if you are viewing the page from the US, i think there is also no ebay

derdew writes...

can you buy the apps using itunes gift cards?

for eg the ones on sale at big w ($50 credit for $30)

i assume so since when you buy apps it uses your iTunes account so i am guessing if you redeem money from a gift card you could use the money from that.

Wow. So many awesome apps. I tell ya, this is why the iPhone is so awesome...

am i right in thinking that for the apps US99cents = au$1.20 ? if so thats nearly a true conversion (after converting and adding adding gst price us99cent = au$1.15)

Chris writes...

Wow. So many awesome apps. I tell ya, this is why the iPhone is so awesome...

kmost looks like junk but some of those applications look awesome particularly the 3D game ones

I like the idea of the 'remote' app, probably one of the few 'useful' apps, besides the games.

Not bad overall though, admittedly most of the apps a useless, but I'm impressed with the number of free apps.

would be even better if you could actually install them.....

Lets hope v2.0 will be released sooner or later. All this is kinda useless without it.

Richad writes...

Lets hope v2.0 will be released sooner or later. All this is kinda useless without it.

i reckon i want it so bad its like christmas

i can't put the applications on my ipod :( they're downloaded tho

Woo App store

Tim D writes...

i can't put the applications on my ipod :( they're downloaded tho

you need firmware 2.0 which is not out yet :(

*edit

i'm so slow at replying lol

i hope it's out tomorrow...

It's hard to imagine them releasing the 2.0 firmware for iTouch and existing iPhone users before the official iPhone3g launch at 8am tommorow...So i'm gonna take a guess and think we still got quite a few hours to wait :)

Any msn\ssh\irc clients on there? i dont wanna install that itunes crap on my computer.

it should be out in NZ by now :)

BillyB writes...

It's hard to imagine them releasing the 2.0 firmware for iTouch and existing iPhone users before the official iPhone3g launch at 8am tommorow...So i'm gonna take a guess and think we still got quite a few hours to wait :)

Johnny Rambo writes...

Any msn\ssh\irc clients on there? i dont wanna install that itunes crap on my computer.

nope no MSN at this stage :(

firmware 2.0 is live!: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/iphone-firmware-2-0-is-live/

Re: Google App

It's only available in the US store (weird). There are actually quite a few apps (mostly free ones) only in the US store – I'd suggest opening a US account (just grab a prepaid US iTunes voucher and use that, no US CC needed).

"Dang, i was hoping for something like Brain Challenge for the ipod"

Look harder, Brain Challenge itself is in there ;-)

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=283519081&mt=8

benlm writes...

Re: Google App

It's only available in the US store (weird).

I was just about to ask that question – thanks.

I'd suggest opening a US account (just grab a prepaid US iTunes voucher and use that, no US CC needed).

Is it easy enough running two accounts with one computer/iphone – i.e. swapping between them etc?

Looks like it's open for Aussies too:

http://www.gadgetguy.com.au/blog.asp?m_blog=196

I think it had to open ahead of US time so Aussies and Kiwis had the App Store open when the iPhone went on sale.

Just added the App Store to my iTunes, and it looks like AU$ to me...

dullard writes...

Is it easy enough running two accounts with one computer/iphone – i.e. swapping between them etc?

Haven't tried it on the iPhone yet (actually I've got a Touch) because I'm still waiting on the 2.0 update, but I assume if you've got it authorized in iTunes that'll cary over seamlessly. In iTunes you just change your store login and it redirects you to the country for that login. It doesn't matter what login you currently have active as it remembers the authorizations for all the different ones.

benlm writes...

t doesn't matter what login you currently have active as it remembers the authorizations for all the different ones.

Thanks mate.

"So right now, it looks like AIM is working when the phone is sleeping, though it doesn't seem to alert you to new messages until you've woken the device up and checked AIM. Then they come at you rapid fire, which is a little unusual."

hahahaha what i've said all along, NO BACKGROUND PROCESSES.

The Stage Hand application looks awesome. You can control Keynote (apple's version of powerpoint via the iPhone. It lets you see your notes and turn it sideways and you can highlight areas of your presentation. Its like the ultimate palm card.

Rather disappointed at the App Store, after all the hype. Only things that look interesting are some of the games so far.

Windows Mobile and Palm are still miles ahead in regards to variety, quality, and quantity, but early days yet of course.

Nothing from TomTom yet, or any good GPS software. I was also hoping for a port of Coreplayer or VLC to play additional video formats (eg DIVX etc) to make the iPhone a true multimedia player, but nothing so far.

hosko writes...

The Stage Hand application looks awesome.

This is the best one I have seen so far. As a teacher (IT) this will be very useful!

Riker88 writes...

I was also hoping for a port of Coreplayer or VLC to play additional video formats (eg DIVX etc) to make the iPhone a true multimedia player, but nothing so far.

I fear that Apple will probably block any VLC type app from the App Store, given that it will adversely impact their TV and movie sales through the iTunes store. I think that we'll have to jailbreak if we want any of the really functional apps.

Riker88 writes...

Windows Mobile and Palm are still miles ahead in regards to variety, quality, and quantity, but early days yet of course.

They have been around for years. The app store is only hours old. It will be interesting to see how far things have come for the app store and apps on the iphone in six months.

for some reason all my prices are in kr... think its dutch?
how do i go about changing it to the australian region -_-

Kaze writes...

for some reason all my prices are in kr... think its dutch?
how do i go about changing it to the australian region -_-

Click on the 'home' icon or get to the main frontpage of the iTunes store. Look at the very bottom and you will see a menu from which you can select your local region.

thanks just found it ;) good to know people are still lurking about in the wee hours of the night.

they nearly all look like novelty crap, wheres msn messenger dammit!

Johnny Rambo writes...

wheres msn messenger dammit!

and the M stands for............

the push notification server isn't working yet anyway :P

Quite peeved at the lack of MSN Messenger. Does Microsoft really have their head so far up their asses that they're willing to loose market share rather than develop for Apple?

yeah... needs a msn app for sure...

really like the store tho... apple is going to make a killing off this

itsross writes...

Microsoft really have their head so far up their asses

YES

itsross writes...

Does Microsoft really have their head so far up their asses that they're willing to loose market share rather than develop for Apple?

IIRC, MS Office for Mac is one of the best selling Mac apps, so the answer is probably no.

Probably a market share sorta thing, can't see mac desktop users being MSN users.

The iphone is a different kettle of fish though, perhaps it's coming, real soon now!!!

So far not desperately impressed.... there are a couple of games I will likely buy, and a few of the freebies I am interested in, but overall, there isn't much I would want to spend my money on, yet.

Not much good until one "acquires" the v2 firmware anyway :)

I am running 7.7 but cant seem to find the applications tab anywhere on the screen?

Am I missing something?

Ashanx writes...

Am I missing something?

just go to the itunes store, you'll find the appstore listed as "new" in the store menu

Do'h!

Thankyou :D

Hm lots of negatives in this thread regarding the AppStore :( I think its great, namely because of one app called Evernote :)

Weird. I cant install applications on my iphone, everything else syncs but I get a nonauthorised error with apps. Even when I delete and reinstall them from the store I get that error.

Bejeweled is like crack. Don't ever start playing it :)

sobie writes...

Weird. I cant install applications on my iphone, everything else syncs but I get a nonauthorised error with apps.

In the "Applications" tab, double click one of the apps you've downloaded. See if it mentions about authorising anything there, it did for me.

All up there are 525 apps in the store right now, with many, many more to come in the near future. There are 410 applications for purchase, and 115 free apps.

That's a pretty decent amount for launch. By year's end, I think you'll be closer to 1000.

Ok dumb question here. I have just downloaded facebook synced the iphone but I cant find facebook on my phone – where should it be???

If you have a white dot at the bottom of the screen, it could be on page 2 of your home screen, just flick right to left

Anybody else having problems accessing the Apps Store from the phone? My phone seems to be set up to access the US App Store and I'm told when I login that my account is not authorised to access that store. Any ideas?

dfunked writes...

In the "Applications" tab, double click one of the apps you've downloaded. See if it mentions about authorising anything there, it did for me.

Done. That fixes it thanks!

GeorgieB writes...

Ok dumb question here. I have just downloaded facebook synced the iphone but I cant find facebook on my phone – where should it be???

You mean you cant just go to facebook.com with Safari, log on and view it like you would on a desktop? geez I thought the browser on this phone was supposed to be revolutionary!

This is essential for me because I regularly advertise on facebook, and I need constant access to the ad manager.. looks like i cant do that with the iphone version of facebook.com (iphone.facebook.com)

I have just purchased a little game from the App Store for my iPod Touch...can't seem to load it onto my Touch though. I'm guessing it has something to do with the Firmware update? Still says I have the latest version...1.1.4

When is the software update for the Touch due to be released? Seems very odd that I am able to buy from the Store before my iPod is capable of using any of these apps.

There are links to the 2.0 software for the iPhone, but MacRumors mentions they have not released it yet, and the links are not for the Touch yet.

Johnny Rambo writes...

You mean you cant just go to facebook.com with Safari, log on a

working well now. It is a modified version but is ok.

If it is that important to you suggest you get another phone.

vGolf writes...

When is the software update for the Touch due to be released?

That's what all the iTouch owners are waiting for. It's a paid upgrade, and will be available via iTunes.

I would keep an eye out here:

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/appstore/

Dont suppose Firefox is in there?

Will be ever?

Trebor writes...

There are links to the 2.0 software for the iPhone, but MacRumors mentions they have not released it yet, and the links are not for the Touch yet.

http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/

Bob TheBuilder writes...

That's what all the iTouch owners are waiting for. It's a paid upgrade, and will be available via iTunes.

I would keep an eye out here:

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/appstore/

So I paid to get the last software update for my Touch and now I will need to pay again? That sucks...

Johnny Rambo writes...

they nearly all look like novelty crap, wheres msn messenger dammit!

Agile Mobile messange works nicely on iPhone/iTouch, suppports MSN, ICQ, Google Talk etc..

vGolf writes...

So I paid to get the last software update for my Touch and now I will need to pay again? That sucks

Sucks to be you :P

Actually the 1.1.4 update is included in the 2.0 update...

Bob TheBuilder writes...

Sucks to be you :P

Actually the 1.1.4 update is included in the 2.0 update...

I guess so...so I suppose the moral of the story is, sometimes it doesn't pay to do the right thing!

Johnny Rambo writes...

You mean you cant just go to facebook.com with Safari, log on and view it like you would on a desktop? geez I thought the browser on this phone was supposed to be revolutionary!

This is essential for me because I regularly advertise on facebook, and I need constant access to the ad manager.. looks like i cant do that with the iphone version of facebook.com (iphone.facebook.com)

you absolutely can go to the regular facebook site, either go to www.facebook.com/inbox (or any other extension), or click on "regular site" from iphone.facebook.com...

page loads are noticibly slower on the normal site (duh)

I want to get Pandora:
http://www.pandora.com/on-the-iphone

However, when I click the link it says it's not available in Australia? I thought the AppStore would finally be the first time we've got access to everything available internationally :-(

Jon W writes...

However, when I click the link it says it's not available in Australia?

You cant even use the pandora website in australia.. thats why its not available unfortunately.

Anyone seen a "ping" like tool applet ? I can't see one in the store

It would be nice to be able to ping some servers (ie to see if they are up/down)

MrMooner writes...

Anyone seen a "ping" like tool applet ? I can't see one in the store

It would be nice to be able to ping some servers (ie to see if they are up/down)

No haven't seen anything like this, though it wouldn't be too difficult to make. Only thing is when you're on a cellular data connection, I'm not sure if sending ICMP requests would be allowed.

Seems like there are US specific application (eBay for example) that we can't download :(

I just hope an Australian version of Box Office is released.
That thing looks absolutely awesome, Would come in REAL handy.

has anyone been able to get the v2.0 update for the ipod touch? itunes just keeps telling me its not avalibe....

It will be released in a couple of weeks at a cost of US$9.99.

MrMooner writes...

Anyone seen a "ping" like tool applet ?

Pre 3G iPhone you could install Terminal on your 2G iPhone and do it from a command prompt.

kermitx19 writes...

It will be released in a couple of weeks at a cost of US$9.99.

so why does the apple site say its avalible now then??

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/appstore/

I just want a pdf reader dammit!!

hehe out of all the apps I am surprised they didn't have any PDF word and powerpoint readers

Display Name writes...

hehe out of all the apps I am surprised they didn't have any PDF word and powerpoint readers

How would they Work? Apple does not allow an app to access the FileSystem (per say, as in a file browser)
hence Mail supports them because it can VIEW them as attachments

supercilious writes...

Anybody else having problems accessing the Apps Store from the phone? My phone seems to be set up to access the US App Store and I'm told when I login that my account is not authorised to access that store. Any ideas?

I get the same thing :(

Engadget just posted their App Store – hits and misses

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/11/best-of-the-worst-the-app-stores-hits-and-misses/

Can you copy apps and give them to people?

When you look in the Applications section (in iTunes) and you right click on an app, you can "Show in Finder". Could you copy the apps and give them to someone else? Would it work?

BearaceDougie writes...

I just hope an Australian version of Box Office is released.
That thing looks absolutely awesome, Would come in REAL handy.

+100

I would love Village/Hoyts etc to act like adults and agree on something like this – it could even drive more people to their online ticket sales systems which require less staff but still charge a premium.

reposting in this thread too – for those trying to update to 2.0:

It sems that the problem is world-wide. Here's a couple of relevant posts:

UK – http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/11/o2_iphone_launch/

US – http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/11/itunes-activation-servers-go-down-iphone-3g-customers-being-sen/#comments
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/11/itunes-activation-server-pining-for-the-fjords/3#comments

supercilious writes...

Anybody else having problems accessing the Apps Store from the phone? My phone seems to be set up to access the US App Store and I'm told when I login that my account is not authorised to access that store. Any ideas?

I got it working. I synced up with my pc and downloaded the apps through itunes. Now i'am able to install apps from my phone as well.

Any must have applications?

I bought the official MLB (Major League Baseball) app for $5 which updates score and has video highlights. The scores are cool but the video will not play. Because it's all so new it's hard to google up info but I'm thinking now this might be a digital rights issue. Foxtel/Telstra/Bigpond, that whole mess. Just thinking of the commentary by industry analysts that Telstra's data plans were so hopeless because they don't want to cannabalise their existing content (don't know if that includes MLB but Fox have TV rights ... ) Anyone else have it and can access the vids?

what is the best voice recorder program? want to record interviews/lectures (i.e. long recordings)

Try VoiceNotes. Its free.

kermitx19 writes...

Try VoiceNotes. Its free.

hey mate, yeah just gave it a shot, but it limits your voice recordings length to just a few minutes.. is there one that has no limits, or has limits at least 1hr long?

Didn't know about the limitation. I've got VoiceNotes on my 2G iPhone – it is obviously a previous version of the software – and the longest recording I've made is just over an hour.

Chalk another one up for Jailbroken iPhones and Installer.app.

Try aqua forest. Its an amazing app!

well... I downloaded voice record... it does not work...

it doesn't let u playback the recording and it doesn't even save it either...

anyone have any problems with this program? what a waste of $1

How can I get my money back?

Really need demo's of these apps. Either restricted or time-limited.

Do they have one that turns iPhone into an answering machine? You know, "leave a message at the beep"........recording.......... beep!