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I never used to, but now I'm thinking with these modern parts, that they'd be less vulnerable to power-cycling than parts from a few years back. Plus, it would save on the electricity bill, and I already suck up enough of it with my home theatre equipment (lol). I only keep it on when I'm doing overnight downloading (such as an upcoming doctor who finale part 2!!).

Fellow WP users, what is your take on this issue?

no. i use my pc as my alram clock and i am always torrenting

Nope, mine stays on 24/7 and its rarely rebooted.

Yes, unless im stress testing/anything that requires long periods of time... or fall asleep watching a movie/TV :p

I use my gaming rig as a mini file server atm so it gets turned on quite often as others want movies/TV.

all my dling is done from my 247boxen so thats not an issue, and when the new HDDs arrive it will work as a file server reducing the time my comp spends on :)

turn off? what is that? i didnt know my PC has a power button to turn it off lol

I leave them off but put them in standy by / sleep mode for quick access during the night or next morning.

I turn mine off whenever possible.

a) it increases its lifespan

b) it saves a lot of power (people forget that their computer uses up about ¼ of what a 2000W heater does.. that's still like 10 cents per hour so over $2 per day = $60 per month – ouch, wasted money!)

But I do leave it on sometimes when I'm torrenting.

invest less in your pc, and you might not be eating.... NIGHT CABBAGE ... anymore! :D

when i go to asleep unless i need to download something

leave it on 24/7

but if we had half decent internet speeds in Oz I could download what I wanted in much less time, and not have to leave it running overnight.

I always turn it off at the power point unless I have a reason to leave it on. I have only ever had one failure and that was a Shaw PSU from MSY. I never bought another one of those.

i set mine on a timer then put the tv on (tv tuner) or watch a movie.

only time i leave it on is when i am encoding a bunch of movies which will take all night.

NightCabbage writes...

people forget that their computer uses up about ¼ of what a 2000W heater does

My PC doesnt use 500w normally, especially not when idle overnight running torrents or such!

only when it has something to do (downloading, recording TV, encoding)

otherwise a bit pointless, waste of power, etc etc

often leave my laptop in standby mode though

and if i have a good idea of when my computer will be finished with whatever it is doing, i'll schedule a shutdown as well

Yes. It's too noisy to sleep with it on. That's despite the P150 case, passive 8800GT and Thermalright cooler... I hate sound at night :(

I turn mine off when I don't have any torrents running over night. Use to leave it on all the time but there isn't any real point.

Mostly turned off unless I'm downloading more educational material. Or I'm being stupid and sit up playing games until 4 in the morning.

I always turn off the monitor when not in use though. (I didn't realise my LCD could use more power than the old CRT until recently).

i turn off my main computer when i go to work.. well most days as this is basically an entertainment unit (my cat doesnt need entertaining)... but i leave it on at night.. i usually fall asleep on the couch in the loungeroom watchinng a movie on my computer's big screen...

i however NEVER switch off my seed/leech-box.. running bittorrent / p2p / ftp 24/7....

my other 2 desktops only go on when there is work to be done.. well sort of.. 1 is a media pc in my bedroom and the other is for encoding video streams.. my laptop is constantly on though... there is no good reason for that to be on aside from the fact it is quicker if im passing that room to quickly check on something on one of my other pcs or internet.. is also next to my router/voip phoneline so i use the lappy for phonebook

Options are too vague :P I keep my PC + NAS on at night if i've got off-peak downloads to do...If my girlfriend is still doing homework on her laptop while i'm going to bed, I leave NAS on and turn PC off :P

If nothing actually needs to be used, then i'll shut everything off at night...

jumanji writes...

Well it just so happens I can offer you carbon offsets for your pc and laptop! visit the link under my name:
<----

Ummm is that a business??

How bout NO Scott!

Does this not count as advertising? You appear to be offering a service in exchange for money on Whirlpool. I thought that was a violation of the forum rules.

jumanji writes...

those of you who leave your PC on overnight, have you considered buying a carbon offset to balance out your carbon emissions?!

short answer "no"

long answer "no" with a "freakin way" at the end.

damn hippies.. get a job :P

My PC is noisy and has blue lights. I turn it off at night.

Maybe if I had a small, silent black box I would leave it on 24/7.

motiv8dan writes...

13 bucks for a sticker..

LOL a sticker that took how much carbon to make? How do you offset the offset?

I used to turn off the PC at night until a few years ago when I just started to leave it on.

I leave my main PC on and also my file server.

2 other PC's are turned off when not in use.

i think not

even if my PC is off the power station is still buring the same ammount of coal, even if 10.000 pc's in Australia are being turned off the same ammount of coal will be burned, buying offsets is pointless too as it would take 10 years for the litle trees to grow up and do some serious work

I reckon its pretty irresponsible to leave your computers on at night for no reason.

Today's world revolves around the use of finite resources, we are sucking more out of this earth than ever before which cannot be replaced. Some of the replies in this thread really show the worrying attitude and thoughts of some people in today's society, complete disregard/understanding of the situations we are facing in the very near future, ie: peak oil, drought, drinking water shortages etc

I know there are many others doing far worse things than leaving a computer on at night, but it all adds up.

Anyway, thats my 2 cents, I leave mine off at night, and whenever its not being used.

wow settle down al gore

andebrook writes...

Some of the replies in this thread really show the worrying attitude and thoughts of some people in today's society, complete disregard/understanding of the situations we are facing in the very near future, ie: peak oil, drought, drinking water shortages etc

dont get me wrong.. i care about the planet.. but i realise.. its not the planet in danger.. only mankind.. the planet will be fine another ice age or whatever.. mankind will be gone.. and the earth will renew once again....

not so bad imho

zbenga writes...

even if my PC is off the power station is still buring the same ammount of coal

Finally someone that speaks the truth of it! Bravo zbenga ;)

I have 4 PC's, Server & about 9 different battery chargers all going all the time, I have a TV with 'standby' power & a coffee machine thats on 24/7.
I turn NONE of these off unless I'm away for a few days.

The 'upshot' is the PC hardware is running at near constant temp which is better for ware n tare, the TV is a plasma so it fires up sooner, my batteries stay charged, and my coffee maker works on demand.

I turn it off because.... if it's on it's doing nothing and well... that's pointless.

orton writes...

I turn NONE of these off unless I'm away for a few days.

oh i leave at least my seedbox on when im away... never know when i may want to logon via RDC and setup downloads to be ready for when i arrive home...

I put mine to sleep

remember... the earth's core is cooling.. which means volcanoes sending LESS carbon in the atmosphere... maybe we need all the greenhouse we can get... bwuahahahha...

dont forget all the awesome hurricanes global warmin has produced actually draws up algae and other green oceanlife to the surface from deep ocean.. which absorbs massive amounts of co2...

earth has its natural defences...

Can u post pictures of the trees you have planted, or give a location to see where they are planted so we can go and see for our selves, sorry but im a bit synical, i want to do it but i need evidence im not paying 13 bucks for a sticker..

I understand your cynicism as its quite common really.

All my trees are planted by Greenfleet who have been responsible for planting well over a million trees in australia already.

Check out their website: www.greenfleet.com.au

lol tree huggers, i think this topic has already been discussed and leaving a PC on uses far less energy/cause less enviromental damage then your petrol guzzlers

and leaving it on is not exactly a waste, i always tend to put it to use when im not around it to use it eg torrenting, video ripping, file server, or even contribute to the society by folding

Akromatic writes...

or even contribute to the society by folding

you actually do folding@home?

hehhehe

gaspah writes...

you actually do folding@home?

hehhehe

whats wrong with that? i run folding@home when my pc is on, its another good cause imo.

I don't know what kind of PC's some of you are running but the cost of running my PC 24/7 isn't much at all... Running the lights in my snake box is another dilemma though :/.... I read some where once that your better off leaving your pc on as the power on/off cycle puts stress on components such as hdds etc due to the initial spinning of the platters... May be very wrong here but it is an interesting concept.

jumanji writes...

whats wrong with that? i run folding@home when my pc is on, its another good cause imo.

yeah nah nothing.. i just didnt think people actually did it here...

Jaxxx writes...

I read some where once that your better off leaving your pc on as the power on/off cycle puts stress on components such as hdds etc due to the initial spinning of the platters... May be very wrong here but it is an interesting concept

add that to the fact it takes more carbon to manufacture a hdd than the entire life of use.... and you're actually hurting the environment turning it off and on...

hehhehehehehehe

folding on a high end machine will cost you about $60/month if done 24x7 with a GPU2 as well as SMP client running at the same time, multiply that by some stupid factor and yeah :)

i really hate how ppl can be so figgn dumb sometimes with all this carbon emissions, fuel saving bla bla bla. If everybody will buy a Prius then the fuel price will be $30/Liter so the profit margin stays the same, if everybody will drive their cars on hydrogen (water) then price of registration of a vehicle will be $8000 year and there will be a water tax or whatever big bro wants to add to make up for the deficit

I leave my PC on and have allways done so, it lasts longer runns smoother etc.

If mother nature wants to start over again who heck am I to stand in her way :)

well i do know a few people that actually make a few dedicated quad core folders just to contribute

jumanji writes...

whats wrong with that?

because it put the PC on a stress AFAIK

more CARBON! =p

zbenga writes...

If mother nature wants to start over again who heck am I to stand in her way :)

gold!!!

just gold!!

you deserve a gold star on your homework... hehehheheh

oh have you heard about the frozen methane problem? how theres massive amounts of methane that is enough to completely destroy the atmosphere frozen under ice and in the deep ocean...
global warming is making all this melt and release to the surface...

therese all these pockets.. you can poke a stick into the ice and light a fire above the hole...and big flames burst out from all the methane.. and all these are everywhere... cool stuff

i never realised so many people left their comps on so much, i mean honestly dont you guys know about global warming or anything? i have dial up atm but i dont leave my comp on to download, i just dont download,
but still when i voted there were 54 turn offers (good people) and 55 leave on's (bad people)
do your part for the enviroment and turn it off, honestly

boneyskull writes...

do your part for the enviroment

Suppose you comply with speed limits, have short showers, abide by water restrictions and have your heater thermostat at 20c....

If I run energy efficient lights and make every effort elsewhere then I can run my PC 24/7 if I want.

boneyskull writes...

do your part for the enviroment and turn it off, honestly

please educate us.. what is this global warming you speak off?? ive never heard of it before?? and you know how i like to stay educated on worldly issues... you know.. instead of following the pack...

To hell with global warming... Until my PC starts floating away in rising flood waters, ill be downloading to the very end.

(My PC has been on for the last 15,000 hours, with under 200 hours downtime :).

Carbon FTW

Eman writes...

To hell with global warming

:D

Haven't seen you post in ages :D

Good to see you're still alive lol

Carbon FTW

Nice global warming attitude btw lmao

Probably a dumb question but here goes, in winter when your computer is on is all the energy it uses turned into heat, if so wouldn't it help in heating your home, anyone know ??

lol save more on heating bills with your PC as a heater while enjoy using it

jumanji writes...

All my trees are planted by Greenfleet who have been responsible for planting well over a million trees in australia already.

How's you car?

All those running 24/7, is that the reason for global warming? ;P

gaspah writes...

oh have you heard about the frozen methane problem?

Check this weeks New Scientist. There is an article discussion the Tunguska event and one of the current theories is a massive outgassing of methane.

drawlll writes...

Probably a dumb question but...

LOL :D

Yes.

It helps a little... but relatively bad value, in terms of heating...

A heater ideally produces 100% heat with the power it's given.

A computer ideally produces 0% :)

But yes, it does produce heat, and that can help a little to heat your room up lol
But hopefully not too much, or you have a very hot system! :)

Also, in winter, your computer will run cooler, which is good for it.

Master of Sinanju writes...

a massive outgassing of methane.

Must have been a very big cow.

NightCabbage writes...

A heater ideally produces 100% heat with the power it's given.

Are you sure anything is 100% efficient. From memory, I would tend to disagree (ah, physics so many years ago).

NightCabbage writes...

A heater ideally produces 100% heat with the power it's given.

A computer ideally produces 0% :)

A computer will produce 100% (or close enough to), the energy has to go somewhere and it all ends up as heat eventually.

As for leaving the computer on, mine is set to hibernate after 15min of not doing anything. Having a computer running if it isn't doing something just seems really pointless to me.

meh i'll consider being eco friendly with my computer when cars stop using carbon based fuel and when power stations are all green

even then my PC isnt outputting any carbon

i bet some of you turn your car engine off when you are at the traffic lights and push your car into a parking lot just to try and save some carbon emission

orton writes...

How's you car?

like my computers its 100% carbon offset thru the planting of trees!

foxbait writes...

Are you sure anything is 100% efficient. From memory, I would tend to disagree (ah, physics so many years ago).

lol, no, in fact I'm 100% sure it's not 100% efficient :D

That's why I convienently used the word 'ideally' :P

Also, computers don't produce 0% heat of course... (thus the second use of the word ideally)

keehee...

NightCabbage writes...

:D

Haven't seen you post in ages :D

Good to see you're still alive lol

Yeah its been a while, global warming hasnt got me yet.

Nice global warming attitude btw

Well after reading that Mars is currently experiencing the same temperature rises as earth (Marshans prefer V8s as well) due to the suns increased output recently, i kinda gave up on global warming theory.

Notice in mr Gores graph that the temperature went up BEFORE the greenhouse gas? EG temperature effects greenhouse gas, not the other way around.

I cant wait till petrol hits $2L. Did you know with petrol so high all the poor people have stopped using citylink/freeway? Took me 35 minutes to get to work today... 2 years ago it was more than double that.

So yeah, not really worried about global warming. If it is the case and we all die, well not great loss. I dont really like humans... Would love to see a "I am legand" style event

See i wouldn't be effected, due to being GOD like, rather than human :).

Future Goals – Run over Greenpeace in a Prius. Really screw with em.

Permanently on. Mines a gaming machine, so it's fairly powerful and overclocked to buggery, but make good use of the 'cool n quiet' type functions so most of the time it runs at stock, but automatically bumps up to super OC levels when something CPU intensive kicks in :)

NightCabbage writes...

keehee...

I was waiting for that reply, ;op

NightCabbage writes...

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But yes, it does produce heat, and that can help a little to heat your room up lol
But hopefully not too much, or you have a very hot system! :)

running a prescott 3.2Ghz in my bedroom.. i dont need a heater ;)

jumanji writes...

like my computers its 100% carbon offset thru the planting of trees!

did you manage to resurrect all those middle-eastern children that died for that carbon??? or just the eco-hippy offset?

Eman writes...

So yeah, not really worried about global warming. If it is the case and we all die, well not great loss. I dont really like humans... Would love to see a "I am legand" style event

yes that whole virus scenario is far more ideal than how we are more likely to wipe ourselves out.. taking most species with us... better for us to die alone...

gaspah writes...

yes that whole virus scenario is far more ideal than how we are more likely to wipe ourselves out.. taking most species with us... better for us to die alone...

lol agreed but with the exception we ARE the virus to the planet

(also triple-posting isn't a great idea – try editing your latest post and sticking the new ones in there :D)

jumanji writes...

like my computers its 100% carbon offset thru the planting of trees!

So, we can use as much energy as we like so long as we plant trees?

Cosy in them glasses?

Akromatic writes...

lol agreed but with the exception we ARE the virus to the planet

yes well if you compare cancerous cells in a living organism to humans on the planet earth... there are some shocking similarities.. i mean they both multiply exponentially and consuming all resources at the expence of the other cells/animals... eventually killing the host.

Akromatic writes...

lol agreed but with the exception we ARE the virus to the planet

I think Lovelock has been generally discounted.

gaspah writes...

eventually killing the host.

Aint happend yet m8.

Maybe it will, maybe it wont, we best ask the dinosaurs and all of the defunct life forms that evolved in & out before we came along (not to mention the ones since we got here).

dinos are probly equal to the flu but we humans are far more destructive and on a completely different scale

Akromatic writes...

dinos are probly equal to the flu

Really? Interesting jump in logic.

but we humans are far more destructive and on a completely different scale

And we know this because?

The dinos outnumbered us by many times (so I'm told) but we still know very little about them (cant tell a lot from fossils).

They we're here for a great many years longer than we, they evolved into a hugely diverse range of creatures, many of which we know little about (birds for instance).

And the idea that they consumed themselves out of existance is not new.

orton writes...

The dinos outnumbered us by many times (so I'm told) but we still know very little about them (cant tell a lot from fossils).

ants outnumber us.. its hardly relevant... dinosaurs.. im pretty sure didnt drive to work..

gaspah writes...

its hardly relevant... dinosaurs.. im pretty sure didnt drive to work..

Oh your good ;).

"Mass extinction being the end result of mankinds consuming ways" was the msg here but I fear I am getting OT so meh, another day.

orton writes...

"Mass extinction being the end result of mankinds consuming ways" was the msg here but I fear I am getting OT so meh, another day.

yes but do you realise its something like for every 1kg of food energy we recieve.. we use 20kg of carbon energy to get it to us... dinosaurs just ate at a 1:0 carbon ratio...

gaspah writes...

dinosaurs.. im pretty sure didnt drive to work..

But they did smoke. Gary Larson published some good research that clearly showed dinosaurs having a puff.

gaspah writes...

yes but do you realise its something like for every 1kg of food energy we recieve.. we use 20kg of carbon energy to get it to us... dinosaurs just ate at a 1:0 carbon ratio...

Don't really care. Statistics like that serve no purpose, we consume because we can that is why we can sit in front of our pc's and argue the toss.

getting way OT but.

so thats why they all sat there and watched that meteor in the oceans near mexico that wiped them all out.. they were to whacked to give a crap ;)

i so wanna blaze it up with my prehistoric homies...

but weed is obviously a good thing... if i didnt get blazed and watch docos all the time.. i wouldnt know f all about the environment ;D WAFFLES!!

So are we also going to ask the dino's and ants if they turn their PC's off at night too? Well maybe not the dino's...

im surprised the mods missed deleting this pointless thread that smells flamewars

Akromatic writes...

im surprised the mods missed deleting this pointless thread that smells flamewars

mods have been monitoring this thread.. a post has been hidden by the moderator.. i think page 3

Only the last page or two have been pointless, the thread itself is fine i think

Just enjoy life, why should you have to suffer with a lights off cold home slow pc when you step outside and theres just 50k cars all stuck in a traffic jam with their heating rammed up to max not giving a crap.

Pianist writes...

Just enjoy life, why should you have to suffer with a lights off cold home slow pc when you step outside and theres just 50k cars all stuck in a traffic jam with their heating rammed up to max not giving a crap.

QTT, computers environmental impact is negligible like a light bulb compared to so many other things, just enjoy using it as you normally would and drop the save the whales crap

Akromatic writes...

QTT, computers environmental impact is negligible like a light bulb compared to so many other things, just enjoy using it as you normally would and drop the save the whales crap

Yeah, F%$# it, no one else cares so why bother. Someone else will figure out how to deal with it.

Mad Dog writes...

I turn mine off when I don't have any torrents running over night. Use to leave it on all the time but there isn't any real point.

Tru that, couldn't ave put it better :D

James01 writes...

My PC is noisy and has blue lights. I turn it off at night.

Sounds like my PC.

damn antec 900 case! lol.

Also the fan on my 8800gt is too loud.

are you guys brain dead or something?

here is something to think about:

if all the PC's in Australia run at 100% cpu usage for a month it will consume less carbon then the whole chinese ecomony produces in 1 hour

if the "world" has a safety mechanism and we all die because it's get triggered then let it be!

imho the more electricity you use the cheaper it is, if everyone starts using less and less then prices will go up and up to compensate

if we push less and less carbon into the atmosphere the big corporation doing manufacturing will say "hey we can crap out more carbon since this suckers are using less"

cause and effect idiots! the better person you become the more you get screwed simple as that

some ppl are so damn stupid it's beyond!

zbenga writes...

some ppl are so damn stupid it's beyond!

you're referring to yourself here right?

That bit about "the more electricity you use the cheaper it is" is gold! Surely that's sarcasm right?

мigнτyвoy writes...

damn antec 900 case! lol.

lol

My 900 has all fans on low, so I can't hear it when I leave it on at night... but my room is strangely lit up blue... hmmm...

thats what you get for buying all those LED fans and CCFL lighting, doesnt anyone uses stealth cases anymore

I'll start turning it off my at night when I get my Laptop : p

jumanji writes...

you're referring to yourself here right?

That bit about "the more electricity you use the cheaper it is" is gold! Surely that's sarcasm right?

oooh oooh oooh... a few comments away from a flame war :)

lols

lol, the pretty lights came with the case :)

I've never been one to bother modding my case at all... as long as it's cool, I'm happy, and the 900 is very cool ;)

i didnt know hippies were so aggressive jumanji ;)

I leave mine on 24/7.

Mine goes off at night, but it goes on automatically at 7 in the morning. No point wasting energy when I am not using it.

zbenga writes...

here is something to think about:

if all the PC's in Australia run at 100% cpu usage for a month it will consume less carbon then the whole chinese ecomony produces in 1 hour

if the "world" has a safety mechanism and we all die because it's get triggered then let it be!

imho the more electricity you use the cheaper it is, if everyone starts using less and less then prices will go up and up to compensate

if we push less and less carbon into the atmosphere the big corporation doing manufacturing will say "hey we can crap out more carbon since this suckers are using less"

cause and effect idiots! the better person you become the more you get screwed simple as that

some ppl are so damn stupid it's beyond!

This made my day... seriously... I lol'd, then I became depressed – because people like this exist.

I would love to know where your theory comes from. It has does have some basis, when returning to price vs demand, but thats where you lost me.

Just because we would use less electricity then China does in an hour, doesn't give us a reason to waste electricity. Otherwise, I'm gonna be demanding that I can drive my 2 stroke pollution machine Trabant around town.

Do you even know what NEMMCO is? Read this: http://www.nemmco.com.au/about/about.html

Basically I've dealt with some of their management, and learned a lot of how the electricity market works.

At the moment, we have power plants that can handle about 5 times australias peak electricity requirements (the reason we get black outs is not that there's enough power in the system, but our infrastructure can't handle it... for those wishing to vent their frustration in NSW... see Transgrid – as they own most of the high voltage infrastructure in NSW). There are some power plants that have TOTAL annual usuage of about 120-150 hours... and there's quite a few. I was shocked to find that out – mutli million/billion hardware only running a few hundred hours a year... thats not a very good investment...

Quite the opposite... because they're only operating on lower hours, the investors want to recoup costs, so it was like 1 megawatt (can't remember what the measurement unit was) of baseline (always on power) was about $50. Some of the plants in the hunter valley that act as 'top ups' charge $4000+ for that same unit. Thats were NEMMCO and hedging etc. come into play, and even it out.

If we bring our consumption down to as close as baseline (which gets re-evaluated weekly, including weather patterns, public events and trends etc.), then we will actually get CHEAPER electricity, but if we stretch from baseline (air con on hot days), then off course our bill will actually go higher over the long term – in the end its all average over the year!

Here is where you're theory MAY just work – because if we keep everything on all the time, then NEMMCO will raise the baseline, therefore bring another plant online, and economies of scale will increase. But this is a VERY long process to achieve, and unlikely to be actually be seen (as there are far more factors etc.).

So here your comment may actually hold ground: where the price/kw is lowered, and therefore cheaper, but remember your total outlay is still higher then it was before your extra consumption.

Regarding carbon emissions: at the moment, without a carbon tax, do you really think corporations care how much they emit... its not regulated heavily yet. That comment is useless, as it has nothing to do with how the market operates – there are no set emission quotas... YET!

• BTW: My iMac sleeps all night, my 850watt 5.5TB server runs all night on 7200.11 HDDs, and my Macbook gets shutdown at night because of the blinking lights***

NightCabbage writes...

But yes, it does produce heat, and that can help a little to heat your room up lol
But hopefully not too much, or you have a very hot system! :)

By the conventional definition certain main computer components are heaters, the term is used regardless of how it's utilized.

Even for a moderate system the ambient temperature will rise, older components (netburst, any server side CPU etc) produce sizeable changes.

Knowing the exact amount of heat produced isn't particularly important though other than rough estimates, unless building phase or TEC systems.

I usually leave mine off at night since I don't use torrents or download big files often. Some nights I do fall asleep and wake up at 3am or so to turn it off. Occasionally I do let it download overnight (such as demo's), for instance the other night I was downloading the TF2 update and since I was capped it was taking ages so I left it on overnight. Only to wake up and realise it was still at 30%, I think Steam goes into Snooze mode when you don't use your PC lol.

I can't really sleep with my computer on either, it's a bit loud.

gaspah writes...

dont forget all the awesome hurricanes global warmin has produced actually draws up algae and other green oceanlife to the surface from deep ocean.. which absorbs massive amounts of co2...

earth has its natural defences...

Is that a fact? Sounds interesting. Although ideally it shouldn't have to get to this point where we rely on hurricanes to save some of us but kill some others and leave them homeless. Interesting to think about how "Mother Nature" has her own defenses though.

Eman writes...

Well after reading that Mars is currently experiencing the same temperature rises as earth (Marshans prefer V8s as well) due to the suns increased output recently, i kinda gave up on global warming theory.

But surely it can't be as black and white as that, as in the only factor causing global warming is just because the sun is getting hotter.

Leave it on...

So that Folding@Home can run, and keep the torrents flowing

keithstudly writes...

So that Folding@Home can run, and keep the torrents flowing

Very noble of u....hope u seed??? Oh folding, my proteins hurt lol!

But seriously CO2, meh, let's not get hippie 'bout it.

Electricity IS a completely sustainable resource, any -ve charge moving in a circuit has the potential to induce current in DC in a coil....thus, electricity is easy, pc is on.....don't bother no more :D

keithstudly writes...

Leave it on...

So that Folding@Home can run, and keep the torrents flowing

FFS.. ok you bstards!! I'm gonna download this folding@home now... aholes!!

I have too many idle machines...

g1raffe writes...

I leave mine on 24/7.

As do I. Don't really like doing that, as I wouldn't mind saving a bit on the electricity bill.

I'd planned on maybe only having my PC running during off peak hours. For example, between 12am and 7am (off peak hours of my ISP). Do a majority of my downloading during that time and have my PC switched off during the day, and only switch it on during peak hours at need. Since I'm at work it seems to me to be pointless having it running. Usually I only download crap, so off peak hours would probably suit that better.

gaspah writes...

FFS.. ok you bstards!! I'm gonna download this folding@home now... aholes!!

And the noble prize goes to.....drum roll PLEASE.....lol!

very important, very incredulous.....but, meh :D

if i turn mine off my GPU fan wont start back up... its 24/7 for me

) XaseR ( writes...

if i turn mine off my GPU fan wont start back up... its 24/7 for me

WHAT? please explain...

Main pc is usually on 24/7, laptop gets turned off though.

i turn it off most of the time only leave it on when im too lazy or dowloading stuff overnight.

) XaseR ( writes...

if i turn mine off my GPU fan wont start back up... its 24/7 for me

I'm with <gaspah>

That.....not.....normal

mobo conflict issues anyone???

After getting the guilts from buying a 46" LCD TV I decided to offset this by turning EVERYTHING off at the wall when I leave for work. PC's usually get switched off at night unless I've got encoding jobs running. The only thing that stays on 24/7 is the fridge. Power consumption dropped by 33% compared to the corresponding period the year before – and that's with the new TV and all. More money in my pocket.

Never turn it off unless is to upgrade hardware, and thinking about gettin PnP SATA so I don't even turn it off while adding/removing hard drives.. LOL.

Oh, also when it needs some lint removal, I would dust it off with compressed air while in place, but I prefer to do that ouside..

I turn mine off because I don't like the sound (even though it's quiet, lol). I don't personally care too much for the 'Greenhouse Effect', and if it wasn't for my hate for noise at night I would leave my computer on.
People call me stupid for not realizing the 'facts' about the greenhouse effect, I call them stupid for repeating all of the information that they are force fed by the media, unable to make up their own mind and attacking anyone who has their own set of beliefs. It seems like the world HAS to have some sort of doomsday theory, and at the moment the greenhouse effect is that theory. Why can't people just be happy for what they have and learn to believe that the world isn't coming to an end any time soon.

acejase66 writes...

Power consumption dropped by 33% compared to the correspond