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posted 2011-Jan-9, 1:10 pm AEST
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posted 2011-Jan-5, 10:46 am AEST
O.P.

Hey guys looking at sandy bridge mobos at the moment. I have noticed some come in a P67 chipset flavour and others in a H67 flavour. What is the difference?

I have done a little research and the only one I can see is that H67 can take advantage of sandy bridges on cpu graphics whereas with P67 you NEED a discrete graphics card.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 10:49 am AEST

Overclocking: P67
Onboard graphics: H67
Both: Z67 (not out for a while)

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 10:50 am AEST

The only real difference between the chipsets:

H67 – Ability to use the onboard GPU on the CPU, For low end systems/HTPC's
P67 – Disables onboard GPU, you require a GPU to use it. More for overclocking and gaming rigs

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 10:58 am AEST

Windows1 writes...

For low end systems/HTPC's

I wouldn't agree with that.

H67 + 2600 certainly isn't low end...

H67 is perfect for people who either have no interest in overclocking (and would like to save some money on the mainboard) or prefer to use the onboard GPU (because they don't play games but use it for rendering, video encoding or things like that).

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:01 am AEST

No that is how it will be used. H67 will feature in more low end systems. I'm saying they are rubbish, but the whole point of H67 is to make use of that Graphics die on the CPU. The only people who will require it are HTPC people (Since some people prefer not to have a dedicated GPU) and low end OEM builds (Since they will be used for general web surfing, etc). H67 can overclock quite well, but not as much as P67 boards.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:08 am AEST

Windows1 writes...

H67 can overclock quite well, but not as much as P67 boards.

You can't overclock with H67 whatsoever. A shame really if you ask me.

SLI / CF is another benefit for P67. We forgot to mention that.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:10 am AEST

The integrated graphics can be overclocked. A way to turn disappointing graphics into ever so slightly less disappointing graphics.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:11 am AEST
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mau1wurf1977 writes...

H67 is perfect for people who either have no interest in overclocking (and would like to save some money on the mainboard) or prefer to use the onboard GPU

This is right up my ally, I have no interest in overclocking (playing it safe with my new build :P) and I have a limited budget so I was going to use the cpus onboard graphics and save up for a really good gpu.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:11 am AEST

I did here that they could do some small overclocks. Meh

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:12 am AEST

pseudonym writes...

The integrated graphics can be overclocked.

Yes that's true. But no CPU overclocking whatsoever on H67...

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:13 am AEST

are they going to make "x67" or something like it?

i have a x58 board and i love the hell out of it

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:13 am AEST

Windows1 writes...

I did here that they could do some small overclocks. Meh

No CPU multiplier adjustment.

They might be able to change the base clock. By up to 2%. Yay for an extra 60MHz on a 3GHz processor.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:13 am AEST

Windows1 writes...

I did here that they could do some small overclocks. Meh

It's on the Intel slides (footnote) in pretty much every review. But most reviewers didn't spot it / mention it / point it out loud enough :P

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edited 2011-Jan-5, 11:26 am AEST
posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:14 am AEST (edited 2011-Jan-5, 11:26 am AEST)

XpK writes...

are they going to make "x67" or something like it?

Z68 is looking to be the high end LGA1155 chipset, although it appears to be a P67/H67 hybrid.

The X58 replacement looks like it will be called X78 and will either be LGA1356 or LGA2011.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:18 am AEST

pseudonym writes...

Z68 is looking to be the high end LGA1155 chipset, although it appears to be a P67/H67 hybrid.

The X58 chipset looks like it will be called X78 and will either be LGA1356 or LGA2011.

can you tell me more about the LGA1366 CPU's that will come out or show me where to find that info out please :)

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:20 am AEST

XpK writes...

can you tell me more about the LGA1366 CPU's that will come out or show me where to find that info out please :)

AFAIK there will be one more 6 core CPU (gulftown) and that's about it...

It is an enthusiast platform, so I don't know why people complain that gulftown costs 1000 bucks :P

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:25 am AEST

XpK writes...

can you tell me more about the LGA1366 CPU's that will come out or show me where to find that info out please :)

If you meant LGA1366's replacements:

Surprisingly little data available.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/video/pcw/docs/360/112/6.pdf

But LGA1356 may have been cancelled or may not be the enthusiast desktop replacement.

Chipset details.
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/08/12/intels-patsburg-chipset-comes-few-unexpected-surprises/

If you didn't:
Not much in the future. Possibly in increased multiplier or two. 980X gets replaced by a 990X or a 995X.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 11:38 am AEST

For anyone concerned about overclocking on the Sandy Bridge processors take a read of this:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/msi_p67agd65_lga1155_chipset_motherboard_review/6

You will need to by the "K" range to get over-clocking unlocked as "K" denotes the processor unlocked. Effortlessly getting 4.4GHz stable on a 3.4GHz CPU sounds good to me.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 3:33 pm AEST

KniteFire writes...

Effortlessly getting 4.4GHz stable on a 3.4GHz CPU sounds good to me

me too

getting rid of my i7 860 and giving the new k series a bash :-)
Going to 4 SSD's too, just for the heck of it.

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 5:10 pm AEST

Remember:

Sandy Bridge @ 4.5 GHz ~ Nehalem @ 5 GHz...

The question: What to do with all this power :P

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 6:53 pm AEST

If I bought the cheapest P67 board will it affect overclocking compared to the other boards? I'm only going to run a single graphics card. Am I safe to say there's no point in going for an expensive P67 board opposed to a cheaper P67?

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posted 2011-Jan-5, 7:09 pm AEST

Ray writes...

will it affect overclocking compared to the other boards?

Only extreme overclocks with lots of voltage. If you are "only" aiming for 4.5 GHz then any P67 board will do just fine!

Apart from power regulators, 8x/8x CF/SLI is the other main benefit of the more expensive models. So in your case the basic boards will be perfect.

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posted 2011-Jan-6, 8:55 am AEST

The H67 can do CF.. it has dual PCI-x 16

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3654#ov

Im looking at building a 2600 rig (no OC), so will probably go for the H67 board.

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posted 2011-Jan-6, 9:04 am AEST

primeviltom writes...

The H67 can do CF.. it has dual PCI-x 16

Mechanical x16. Not electrical.
1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4 (PCIEX4)
The PCIEX4 slot shares bandwidth with the PCIEX1_2 slot. When both slots are populated, the PCIEX4 slot will operate at up to x1 mode.

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posted 2011-Jan-6, 1:51 pm AEST

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833-8.html

Quote (referring to H67 chipset)
It’s also the key to a protected audio/video path—mandatory for Blu-ray playback and bitstreaming high-def audio to a receiver.

Can anyone elaborate on this?

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posted 2011-Jan-7, 4:18 pm AEST

It's a pity the on-chip GPU is disabled on a P67 chipset. It would be nice to at least take advantage of the extra parallel processing power even if you're not using it to display video.

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posted 2011-Jan-8, 12:58 pm AEST
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So why are the H67 boards so much cheaper then the P67?? What exactly can the P67 mobos do that the H67 can't?

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posted 2011-Jan-9, 5:37 am AEST

nite_owl writes...

What exactly can the P67 mobos do that the H67 can't?

I believe the P67 chipsets can do crossfire and/or SLI (the H67 cannot) and can also let you overclock the CPU if it's a K series chip (the H67 cannot). But the H67 chipset can take advantage of of the on-chip GPU (the P67 cannot). The K series chips also have the faster GPU.

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posted 2011-Jan-9, 1:05 pm AEST
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Antithesis writes...

I believe the P67 chipsets can do crossfire and/or SLI (the H67 cannot) and can also let you overclock the CPU if it's a K series chip (the H67 cannot).

So is that all? It won't let you SLI and overclock?

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posted 2011-Jan-9, 1:10 pm AEST

Have a look here for roundup of the Sandybridge CPUs and chipsets: /forum-replies.cfm?t=1614446