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Here is were you should talk about rap related things.

I made this because /forum-replies.cfm?t=1073215 is getting spammed up with off topic rap info.

Enjoy :D

Run DMC are all I recognize, they are ftw.

Prey_M writes...

Run DMC are all I recognize, they are ftw.

Ahh the good ol days of rap

Jurassic 5 were also a fantastic crew ;D

Run DMC are old I never liked their music except for its like that. Jurrasic 5 suck I think they are an Aussie hip hop group and have tainted hip hop. If it don't sound American then it ain't hip hop.

Each to there own I guess

Anyone listen to Infinite by em?

He has a mad flow on it!

straight out.

yeah i heard infinite. 313 and infinite are the 2 i like from that album.

have you heard blackout 2 yet red and meth ? its meant to be great.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

have you heard blackout 2 yet red and meth ? its meant to be great.

No

Might check it out tomorrow

blackout 2 is good, almost as good as the 1st (some would say better)

relapse is probably the best album of the last few years

slaughterhouse's album in july is what everyone is waiting for

Blackout! 2 was a great album in my opinion. Relapse is still over hyped garbage.

Now I'm just waiting too see what Slaughterhouse can deliver. Considering they've only done 5 or so songs and those alone have kept me satisfied for last 6 months, the idea of getting 15+ new songs all at once is kinda scary, I might explode..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoUr7qPfZM

Yesterday Raekwon dropped the New Wu on itunes.. first track from Only Built for Cuban Linx II

That red an meth blackout 2 was average after listening to it a few times over. After hearing it compared poor to blackout 1.. But will there be a blackout 3?

repeatedlove1998 writes...

Jurrasic 5 suck I think they are an Aussie hip hop group

:|

They are American.

If it don't sound American then it ain't hip hop.

:|

That kind of narrow mindedness baffles me, honestly. I think we've discussed this before, but to ignore a whole range of artists simply because they don't sound American, is quite frankly, stupid in my opinion.

$$DoLLaZ$$ writes...

Anyone listen to Infinite by em?

Yeah, sounds really raw. I'm not massive on it, it's missing that "polish" that he got once hooking up with Dre.

cwr writes...

blackout 2 is good, almost as good as the 1st (some would say better)

I'll give it a miss then. I like Red and Meth, but Blackout was fair ordinary imo.

anyone else going to see ghostface in june?

Je suis un abricot sec writes...

anyone else going to see ghostface in june?

I'm keen, but already paying for Bliss n Eso, Hilltop Hoods and AC/DC, so money is a bit short to see Ghostface, as much as I'd love to see him live!

da-ilks writes...

I'm keen, but already paying for Bliss n Eso, Hilltop Hoods and AC/DC, so money is a bit short to see Ghostface, as much as I'd love to see him live!

Sell you hilltop hoods ticket then :P atmosphere at ghostface would be much better then a crowd full of centrelink bludges.

I've skipped all the Blackout albums. I like Red and Meth, but Doc's Da Name 2000 and Tical 2000 were both pretty weak and I think Blackout came out out just after those? I didn't like the direction they were going so I've not bought any of their albums since. Basically, the beats sucked. It's kind of wierd because in the late 80's/early 90's, I'd buy pretty much everything on Def Jam because you could guarantee it was dope. These days kind of the opposite, I tend to give Def Jam releases a wide berth. :/

Does no one like the slightly less commercial stuff? Last three albums I bought were DOOM, Q-Tip, and People Under the Stairs. All good albums.

Shugyosha writes...

Does no one like the slightly less commercial stuff? Last three albums I bought were DOOM, Q-Tip, and People Under the Stairs. All good albums.

Haven't heard the other two, but heard Q-Tip's album. Was a pretty good album. I wasn't expecting much from it either but he was real good lyrically on the album.

Not a fan of Q-Tip, his music gets abit boring after awhile. He has talent and all but carnt get into his music. I'd rather listen to talib kweli or mos def.

$$DoLLaZ$$ writes...

Anyone listen to Infinite by em?

It's surprisingly good, I think I like "It's OK" the most..

It's a rough week n I don't get enough sleep, it's a long year pretending I belong here

Captain Kirk writes...

first track from Only Built for Cuban Linx II

:O !! What's it called?

Shugyosha writes...

Q-Tip

Oh man, I've been told by so many people how amazing The Renaissance is, but I keep forgetting to get it.

ghostface is coming in june? what?

blackout is one of my favourite albums, the red & meth back & forth is what has me hooked. blackout 2 is good, but not as good as the first

after seeing red & meth live and hearing most of the songs from blackout, nothing could make me think its wack

Ghostface in OZ!, I gotta get in on this, if I hadn't seen this thread I wouldn't have known. To put my .02 cents in, this year hasn't been good for rap, there's been that Ross album and Fiddy beef, Asher Roth, Eminem's new material + a bunch of other southern "trap" music – pretty boring IMO but not like I was checking for top 30 rappers anyway. So far I've been listening to Madlib Beat Konducta 5-6, Illa J, MF Doom, Black Milk and Elzhi plus a bunch of classics from Hip-Hop's heyday. Someone mentioned slaughterhouse now that's something I will openly embrace and support, four MC's about their craft and leaving the bullshit behind them. peace.

da-ilks writes...

repeatedlove1998 writes...

Jurrasic 5 suck I think they are an Aussie hip hop group

:|

They are American.

my bad i got mixed up with 1200 techniques.

If it don't sound American then it ain't hip hop.

:|

That kind of narrow mindedness baffles me, honestly.

-not so narrowminded other than peter andre how many other aussie hip hop acts can you name that have blown up (not many infini not many infini) that kiwi bloke dont count but yeah he is good.

just give me some kinda sign girl oh my baby show me that your mine girl alright.

-narrowminded is aussie rappers hating on people who dont rap aussie good luck to everyone that can make it big.

think we've discussed this before,

-im new here do you have the links to the old threads?

but to ignore a whole range of artists simply because they don't sound American, is quite frankly, stupid in my opinion.

replece the word "American" with any other word so were actually trying to say asimilar point just that i have seen more prejudice towards the american sounding guys from the aussie sounding guys.

a great analagy though my brother coined is if you learn chinese form a french person you would speak chinese in a french accent. also looking at a lot of acts worldwide they are usually persuaded to sound like the "norm" american.

Captain Kirk writes...

Yesterday Raekwon dropped the New Wu on itunes.. first track from Only Built for Cuban Linx II

most talented member of wu tang IMO. so if its on iTunes why cant i find it elsewhere?

I find this thread interesting, as i enjoy aussie hiphop, but haven't found any american hiphop i can listen to for more than a minute.

I think the aussie accent just suits hiphop better than the american one.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

-not so narrowminded other than peter andre how many other aussie hip hop acts can you name that have blown up (not many infini not many infini) that kiwi bloke dont count but yeah he is good.

It's actually "Not many, if any" and obviously that "kiwi bloke" doesn't count, he's not Australian. And in such a backwards genre, I don't really see how someones commercial success (or lack of) represents their talent.

Your opinion on hip hop is now totally irrelevant to me, you didn't know who Jurassic 5 were, you proved how ignorant you are by saying something as stupid as "If it don't sound American then it ain't hip hop" and Peter Andre's far from a hip hop act.

did my opinion only now become irrelevant to you? so it did have some relevance why didnt you say so earlier. i would have tried not to offend you.

its not just my opinion. the genre has been segregated. correct it is all hip hop but then i dont know about you but my idols, well they come from america and i immitate and worship them as such.

from wiki thread

Peter Andre (born Peter James Andrea on 27 February 1973) is an English-born Australian singer–songwriter and television personality. He currently produces music in the genres of pop, R&B and reggae. He was born in Harrow, London, England, but was raised in Australia, and is of Greek Cypriot descent.

R&B stands for rap n bullsit

"All Night, All Right" (featuring Warren G)

you do know warren g right? come on man have i redemed myself now does my hiphop opinion mean anything again?

lol at the post above, so ignorant, rap and bullsit? seriously? lol

Anyway theres some good releases coming out in the next few months, cuban linx 2, plus new ones from eyedea & abilities, chamillionaire, cage, busdriver, mos def and i think tech n9ne has another one coming out sometime this year. Add them to what has already come out this year and it looks pretty damn good.

ive been called ignorant 3 times this week on here and mirc lol times have changed and no one knows how to have a laugh.

thanks shady07 as long as i got a cheap laugh. i would seriously debate the topic but whim me so then it wouldnt clog up the rap. yeah if it sounds good its all good no mate who is spitting.

akon and lady gaga now thats what i call freakin hip hop \mm/

i couldnt believe she was actualy saying poker face. poker face. shes really blurring the line between dance and hip hop.

acorn he has a lambourghini gallardo. doesnt he sing that song doctor they wont let me out lol. its just great whats being released. but hey we got relapse, blackout 2 and slaughterhouse to come and cuban linx II.

see guys kandiman has a freaking sense of humor. if your so easily offended by a random stranger on an interet forum then i cant comprehend how you get through 1 eminem cd.

Apparently Pete Rock and Nas have hooked back up again: http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2009/05/12/21550748.aspx

The World Is Yours pt 2? One can dream :P

and when is that damn Deltron album coming out? Been waiting a while for that one. Also does anyone know what happened to Insight after Y Society?

Anyone going to see necro in sydney this weekend?

Saw him last year i think it was, awesome show, hopefully he might bring ill bill or mr hyde.

Rap is all i listen to like really i dont have any other genre's maybe one or 2 songs out of rap but its strickly rap for me. This is what i listen to, it might not be what your into but each to there own this is what i love and listen around 5 hours a day.

Texas music is all i listen to at the moment as i dont think the west coast have brought anything out to get my attention maybe underground music but nothing major.

Lil Flip & Three 6 – Ridin Spinners http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkOLRuAXDY

Lady GaGa & Chamillionaire AKA King Koopa – Poker Face http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKzESdmhPuY

Pimp C (R.I.P Pimp C) – Knocking down doors – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sQxFsblruE Tight song u need to listen to it

The whole Houston Texas Click most of them anyway – Yahoo Pepsi smash all freestyle – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe5ezFg6H8k

Slim Thug – Wood Grain Wheel – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCZSVqI9V6U

Slim Thug – I Run (2009 Track) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnRc46xWSfI

I got a heap others if anyone actually likes it let me know :)

Texas Stand UP!

slim thug is good so is chamillionaire, scarface, UGK, R.I.P DJ SCREW

those jay-z are new too

Yeha RIP Screw lol was just listening to screw on the turntables when i read your post haha

If anyone hasnt heard DJ Screw or know what he does he put Texas on the MAP with his DJ'ing and slowing down music take alook at him on the turn tables

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSmMoVf1j_8

Captain Kirk writes...

Yesterday Raekwon dropped the New Wu on itunes.. first track from Only Built for Cuban Linx II

What's it called?

Chief is the master..can't wait for Cuban II !!!...bring back proper hiphop. Jada's release was very poor :(

G.Malone Beach cruiser 06.09.09 should be awesome as well...check out sixty million dollar flow. Dudes crazy.

Grab the leaked crooked-i – say hi to the bad guy from death row days...Would have been a crazy release for its time.

kray-z writes...

Jay-Z – Can’t Cheat Death (Prod. DJ Premier)

This is a blend of Jay Z's song "Pray" off his last album American Gangster, and the beat is from a Reks song called "Cloud 9" off the album "More Grey Hairs"

Jay-Z – Welcome To The 70’s (Snippet) (Prod. DJ Premier)

This is also just a blend, the vocals are from Jay's song "Party Life" also off American Gangster.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

you do know warren g right? come on man have i redemed myself now does my hiphop opinion mean anything again?

Your opinion means even less now. If I were you I would just stop posting all together.

So Peter Andre is now a hip hop act because a west coast gangster rapper featured on one of his songs? You are a complete moron.

lol going hard on repeatedlove

RajKurupt writes...

Chief is the master..can't wait for Cuban II !!!...bring back proper hiphop. Jada's release was very poor :(

Proper hip hop never left, it just went underground. But yea I can't wait for OBFCLII either, should be dope.

G.Malone Beach cruiser 06.09.09 should be awesome as well...check out sixty million dollar flow. Dudes crazy.

G Malone is just average to me, there's so many other rappers out on the West Coast that are ALOT better than him. Check out Crooked I if you haven't already, this is one of the best songs of 2009 thus far..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7x8k-xvMU

Gobbledok writes...

You are a complete moron.

His copy of shaq deisel – slam is mounted in gold framing.

Yeah crooked I is awesome! but god knows about his album release...lol

@ work is that the
crooked i-if you ever hear me- prod king tech?

That's prob one of the best tracks released this year period!...

Check out Jayrock as well...going to blow up!>

Jay rock feat lil wayne – all my life insane track..

Also check out the group
Slaughter house
chuck some of the best lyricists together with crazy beats and get a super group.
Budden, Royce, Crooked, and Ortiz, They can be the new dog pound or the new Wutang, Touted as the best rap group in the making.

Check out
Slaughter house – Move On (Slaughterhouse Remix) on youtube simply amazing track!..they released a Internet video for it as well.

Gobbledok writes...

Proper hip hop never left, it just went underground.

True, But I'm sick of wack s*** getting props.

Gobbledok writes...

G Malone is just average to me

Really? He is crazy for me...
G.malone – Money!...what a track!..his White Lightning mixtape was the best selling street mixtape in westcoast history! Jigga wanted to sign him after releasing that mixtape but didn't offer him enough money.

RajKurupt writes...

crooked i-if you ever hear me- prod king tech?

That's prob one of the best tracks released this year period!...

lol yup, incredible song.

Check out Jayrock as well...going to blow up!>

Jay rock feat lil wayne – all my life insane track..

Yea Jay Rock is probably my favorite up and comer on the West at the moment, he's supposed to have a new mixtape dropping today (26th) but it will be American time so hopefully it will come out overnight.

I really hope Jay Rock does blow up, he's what modern day West Coast gangster rap should sound like.

Also check out the group Slaughter house

Slaughterhouse is the best thing in hip hop at the moment. Move On is definitely one of the better songs this year. Can't wait for their debut album, supposedly dropping on the 7th of July.

Wow, props you know your hiphop!
Absolutely man Slaughterhouse is something I really can't wait for..going to be incredible!

Gobbledok writes...

I really hope Jay Rock does blow up, he's what modern day West Coast gangster rap should sound like.

For sure, You heard how to rob 09? He did a remake of the track 50cent did before he blew up, Very funny.

he's supposed to have a new mixtape dropping today (26th)

Yeah My mate sms'd me about that this morning I thought he was just confused, Will have to check out RN when I get home.

RajKurupt writes...

For sure, You heard how to rob 09?

lol yea he did a good job of that.

Yeah My mate sms'd me about that this morning I thought he was just confused

He released a trailer for the mixtape yesterday and it sounds dope. Hopefully DJ Kay Slay and DJ Noodles don't ruin it by screaming all over it though.

LOl If its kayslay Im going to cry, He ruined so many mixtapes...Sounds good.

RajKurupt writes...

Yeah crooked I is awesome! but god knows about his album release...lol

He stuffed up by signing to Deathrow when deathrow was going downhill, he should have went to another lable to start with then we would have seen his album, same as Petey Pablo i mean what the hell was he thinking signing with deathrow?

He went from a top album still writing in my diary 2nd entry to that crap that came out on deathrow..

Again he should have stayed with Jive records.

King Koopa™ writes...

He stuffed up by signing to Deathrow

I'm sure they'd agree with you in hindsight but at the time it would of been tempting, who wouldn't wana be the artist that brings Death Row and the West Coast back to the forefront of hip hop? Which is exactly what everyone thought Crooked, Eastwood and Petey Pablo were going to do. Unfortunately though, Suge fell asleep behind the wheel for 5 years.

Yeap I agree, Everyone Had had there own ideas. Same with Young Gotti leaving Daz and DPG to sign with his mortal enemy. All wanted to bring back the west with deathrow but all failed. Promised riches and success but realized they would just get black balled and cold shoulder treatment if you are affiliated with DeathRow records.

Speaking of Death Row.. look out for the re-release of the Chronic...

Also I heard that Daz might do new videos for "Dogg Food" ?

So who owns Tha Row now? i read a few weeks ago that most of it got sold off? God i miss Deathrow the orginal Deathrow with Pac/Snoop/Dre

http://www.hiphopstan.com/index.php?module=newsDetail&id=2165&idCategory=1

Interview with suge from the weekend
"Suge talks about his absence from the music industry, co-signs a few upcoming artists from the West coast, and says he's "taking music back to the basics!""

Wants to co-sign Jayrock lol no chance pal!

Gobbledok writes...

who wouldn't wana be the artist that brings Death Row and the West Coast back to the forefront of hip hop?

I Understand what you are saying, As i new that was the reason they was all jumping to Deathrow when Suge got out of Jail or just before he got out of jail. Im pretty sure Petey Signed when suge was in jail. But seriously for starters for petey to name his album 'Same Eyez On Me' i mean come on now, he even said in an interview its just going to be like Pacs All eyes on me. Nobody and i mean Nobody will make an album like All Eyez On Me. And no Artist IMO will ever be at a level that Tupac was at. I dont listen to much tupac anymore as i have heard his stuff a million times over. But he still is my Fav to this day.

So for deathrow or suge to bring in artist such as EastWood Crooked I and those guys to think they could bring West back on the map was just stupid, everyone knows

Suge isnt deathrow Tupac Snoop and Dre = Deathrow.

King Koopa™ writes...

So who owns Tha Row now?

WIDEawake Entertainment.

They plan on putting out all the unreleased music (which apparently is more than anyone could imagine) over the next few years.

Gobbledok writes...

Unfortunately though, Suge fell asleep behind the wheel for 5 years.

I'd say he's more incompetent then anything, at least in running a business. Not to mention he's shady as fark. There's obviously a reason why all his talent farked off when contracts ran out, unless they were desperate, like Kurupt.

Most of us would have heard the rumours that Tupac was such a prolific writer in his later days because he was in such a shitty deal with Suge, he just wanted to make the required number of albums and GTFO of there.... The rumour continues that Suge knows that so got the hit on Pac done to ensure he wouldn't take his best work elsewhere . That's enough conspiracy theories for today though :D

King Koopa™ writes...

Petey Signed when suge was in jail

Yea Crooked I did too..

for petey to name his album 'Same Eyez On Me' i mean come on now

I agree, that is a stupid album title, especially for an average rapper such as Petey lol.

So for deathrow or suge to bring in artist such as EastWood Crooked I and those guys to think they could bring West back on the map was just stupid

It wasn't just them though, the whole West Coast, everyone in the industry thought Death Row was back for another run and these guys were going to be the resurrection.

I'd recommend watching Crooked I's documentary "Life After Death Row", it's pretty interesting..

Thanks for the site link HipHopstan i dont know any other sites apart from RapGodFathers. Cheers and Where could i find the crooked I Doco at?

for westcoast hiphop scene..Nothing beats www.dubcnn.com (only after wcrydaz shut down tho :(, best place on the net that site was!).

I got that crook doco of a torrent a while back, I wouldn't know how to track it down now tho...Maybe google with rapidshare if you have a account.

While i have you guys here can u tell me anything about this, i have been a small fan of Kurupt and Daz

Daz is Snoops Cousin right? Warren G is Dre's Step brother? is that right i know its somthing like that

Anyway did Daz and Kurupt have beef at one stage? I know Kurupt was on Tha Row by himself and Daz was off doing his own thing then they got back together?

What ever happend there?

Dam i hate rapid share links cuz i can only download 2 links then it says ive reached my limit :( il look around thanks though

Yeah kurupt and daz had 'beef' but it all got sorted.

King Koopa™ writes...

Anyway did Daz and Kurupt have beef at one stage? I know Kurupt was on Tha Row by himself and Daz was off doing his own thing then they got back together?

Wcrydaz got them to patch things up and they made them do a do a track together and filmed the first take of it when they were in the booth...Prolly one of the best DPG tracks ever (including Dogfood)

This is after Kurupt decided to leave Deathrow tho.

I still have that Vid on my computer somewhere trying for find the name of the track...

Found it

Youtube
DPG – Push Bacc...After all that rubbish about kurupt being finished and how he isn't the same mc behind the mic, He dropped one of his hottest verses and saved it for the reunited DPG track...

Is it actually a Crooked I Doc or is it a Deathrow Doc..

It's about Crooked I's time on and departure from Death Row. It was put together and released by Crooked I although a Death Row fan would proabably find it interesting.

cant go past 1993, man some awesome tracks there, liking 98 as well, dialated and lootpack aww yeah

is this like a commercial list? I was thinking i would see souls of mischeif – 93 till infinity or heiroglyphics – you never knew (or basically any one of thier tracks) in the list. Alot of top notch stuff came out around that time, probably too many to put in the list!

edit: just saw 93 till infinity :P

non torrent..i know it will take awhile to cop them all, only free user for me too..cut n paste the links somewhere on ya pc so if it gets deleted here you still got the links

Cheers kray-z for the links!

Will definitely be dling them....dont care how many days it takes they need to be in everyone's Hip-Hop play list!

yup did that :p..notepad for the win!...I got a rapidshare account as well...I think its much better to pay the amount for it...Probably the best platform for downloading on the internet.

Woah, all these instrumentals are awesome. Where do you get these from?

Funkoars are pretty damn good.....

http://www.funkoars.com

Man...aint no one that can step up to Big L still..Dude was something else...damn shame :(

Big L is definitely one of my favorites.

Apart from his 2 albums is there any other material out there? I have Big L – The Archives 1996 – 2000 but is there any thing I'm missing? No one really matches his effortless wit & humor in my opinion. It's a shame he died so young..

Nah thats about it, The archive and his two albums is all we have :(...How unbelievable is his first album..Just amazing

Rae's new track is called "The New Wu" (iTunes US)

previously known as "wu ooh", "back from the slums"

Enjoying Cage's new single "I never knew you"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Sxm6zx4e8

Its a pity his brother in crime Camu died recently.

If you're interested at all in Death Row, you should read the book 'Have Gun Will Travel – The Spectacular Rise and Violent Fall of Death Row Records' – Ronin Ro. It's a great book that really spills the details on the goings on. It really lays into Tupac.

I guess if you're a Pac fan you might not like that – personally I thought he was only ever a slightly above average rapper at best. He was a better actor than a rapper. But each to their own. :)

Shugyosha writes...

personally I thought he was only ever a slightly above average rapper at best

I agree, although I have the utmost respect for what he did for hip hop, once you take away his influence, accolades and legend status, your left with nothing more than an average rapper. I can understand why people put him up there with the best but if your talking strictly rapping abilities & skills, he wouldn't even be top 30 dead or alive.

Captain Kirk writes...

Rae's new track is called "The New Wu" (iTunes US)

Meths flow on it is tuff!

gobble – i was kidding about peter andre and like i said if you want to discuss what i said then i will whim you.

drop rap and quit it lol nah you right. tell ya what though in about 6 months i will cancel my broadband will that make you feel better?

yeah big l another way uinerated rapper he died young too. damn shame.

wezag – yeah my copy of that shaq song is gold fraed with pink running writting. is that the new song where he disses kobe and says he couldnt of won those rings without him?

is necro going to other cities or just sydney coz over in perth on the west coast we're the biggest hip hop heads XD i know one guy here who did a song with nickle nine FTW. also didnt ill bill do songs with chopper?

raj – i think hiphopbasement is agood site as well, most are all affiliated ad kray-z is bringing us the daily news and exclusive ish right here. thanks man.

king koopa – yeah also brandi is snoops cuz and so is ray jay. he did a risque tape with kim kardishian.

I watched that Crooked I dvd very interesting, also got a rapid share account loving it. dunno why i never brought one earlier.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

yeah my copy of that shaq song is gold fraed with pink running writting. is that the new song where he disses kobe and says he couldnt of won those rings without him?

lol no it was his first debut single back in the 90's.

is necro going to other cities or just sydney

http://www.planeturban.com.au/urban_news/tour_news_necro_returns_to_australia_and_new_zealand

playing at hyde park for you :)

King Koopa™ writes...

I watched that Crooked I dvd very interesting, also got a rapid share account loving it. dunno why i never brought one earlier.

Nice, Yeah RS is the best! defiantly worth the money.

LEGEND!!!

I saw it this morning before going to work, Was going to get it tonight. Just downloading it now..cheers!!!

Rae's new track is called "The New Wu" (iTunes US)

Cheers..Tracks nice!

http://www.djbooth.net/index/tracks/radio/raekwon-ft.-ghostface-killah-method-man-wu-ooh/

for anyone that wants to listen.

(not a download link!)

kray-z for president!...mad props man!

"New Wu" or "Wu Ooh" (new song by Raekwon) is GREAT!

JB HiFi writes...

Wu Ooh

i havent heard it yet, but is it like the wu ooh ohh bit at the beginning of cream? love that!

ahah sweet cheers

Gobbledok writes...

Jay Rock – Gudda Muzik (26/5/09)

Fire!, Awesome tape man!...been listening to that and some premo and Alchemist instrumentals sent from kray-z all day at work

RajKurupt writes...

Fire!, Awesome tape man!

Yea it's not bad, only gave it a quick listen but it seemed pretty good.

For some reason I've been in the mood for NaS all day, I forgot what a great album "It Was Written" is.

yeah, everyone trashes that album but I always thought it was wicked..I was listening to its dark and hell is hot last night back to back lol...great album for its pure energy..

Exactly! Mixtapes are free and are for promo use only..it gives artists exposure and it gives people a chance to hear new artists. All artists submit there tracks to dj's to get the word out about their new single or whats to come in the future. I urge more people to post these within this thread.

Artists and DJ's are not legally allowed to make money off mixtapes unless they have all original production and everything (sample's etc.) has been cleared before hand.

You will still see them for sale but in order to bypass the laws, they're only actually selling you the CD case and the artwork, the actual CD with the music on it is "free". But most people have given up on trying to sell them and just put them up for free download.

I Really do hope people go out and support Chamillionaire on his next album Venom, he said if it does good sales in the first week he will put Mixtape Messiah 6 and 7 free on the same day.

Albums im waiting for at the moment are

Lil Flip – Ahead of my Time – God knows when that is
Cham – Venom – few months away
Dr Dre – Detox .....

Venom should be good, been waiting a while for it

Gobbledok writes...

G Malone is just average to me, there's so many other rappers out on the West Coast that are ALOT better than him. Check out Crooked I if you haven't already, this is one of the best songs of 2009 thus far..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7x8k-xvMU

damn just heard that song mad beat. and thanks for joel ortiz mix tape. all this good hip hop coming out might have to start listening again.

cage chaged his style up even though him and em have beef still listen to his music too. shialebuff is meant to be doing a bio on him.

that crooked i doco and death row book sound interesting. have gun will travel is also a tv series eminem is meant to be doing.

Gobbledok writes...

Check out Crooked I if you haven't already, this is one of the best songs of 2009 thus far..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7x8k-xvMU

Shiit just heard that song. Guy has a sick flow! Song is definitely up there for 2009!

RajKurupt writes...

LEGEND!!!

I saw it this morning before going to work, Was going to get it tonight. Just downloading it now..cheers!!!

+1 dling it now should be good!

Don't sleep on Crooked -i man...

Get young boss vol 2 ...All original beats, and a work of art!

Crooked -i the Kite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80rZAnGMg1o

Crooked – i Rap 101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZURRPZLTHUg

(from young boss vol 2)

some of his talents...

Almost forgot...My fav track from him, Explaining his life story...

Crooked I – This Is My Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezas6kEKl3w&feature=related

Dont go much on Crooked I but man he does have a smooth flow really clear and on point.

Yeah i suggest you watch the doco life after deathrow really gets an insite to what was going on in that label.

Gobbledok writes...

Young Buck – Back On My Buck Shit

Is this any good?

RajKurupt writes...LEGEND!!!

I saw it this morning before going to work, Was going to get it tonight. Just downloading it now..cheers!!!

+1 dling it now should be good!

is this in reference to jay rock? i never heard of jay rock but if this is good i will check it out too.

jay rock aint to bad..he has had a few tapes out in the past too..

keep 'em coming kray-z.

you know what biggie instrumental your missing? "my downfall"

i only heard that song properly last year and its up there with kick in the door and 10 creck commandments.

have you all seen the notorious movie what did everyone think?

was there a few chronological error? in an interview on wake up show (when he freestyles and does the cross fader to edit his own stuff, apparently this is difficult) he mentioned he was in hospital when 2pac got shot. in the movie it was afterwards when lil cease crippled him.

Yeah i'll post more instrumental (promo's here*since theyre for free*) so than everybody can check them out. I have seen the movie..it was ok it couldve been better though. Didnt like the soundtrack much.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

have you all seen the notorious movie what did everyone think?

I had very low expectations but it was actually a decent film. However I didn't agree with their depiction of 2Pac.

JB HiFi writes...

I had very low expectations but it was actually a decent film. However I didn't agree with their depiction of 2Pac.

i actually liked it as well. i was expecting one of those silly mockumentaries which gives out addresses to various rappers lol.

what in particular do you disagree with regarding their depiction of pac?

hey and did you know that is biggies son who plays him at the start

JB HiFi writes...

Is this any good?

I thought it was pretty good, I've never been a big Young Buck fan so I had low expectations. It's worth the download though..

Slaughterhouse straight from the studio announcing their new album..

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/wLNHR23LkRuUktr2

Damn, that song at the start of the video sounds CRAZY.

anyone like 4th avenue jones?

anyone here a fan of lil waynes mixtapes?

boys gotta flow you can drown in!

forget the commercial stuff, the mixtapes he does are insane!

repeatedlove1998 writes...

have you all seen the notorious movie what did everyone think?

Thought it was awesome!...But yeah they did make 2pac look like a tool...

That scene where he battles in the street was amazing because that scene and the lyrics he used was exactly what the real big used...Check it out on youtube the actual footage of him in that scene is there..

relapsed writes...

anyone here a fan of lil wayne?

This guy?

http://bp2.blogger.com/_hSJQoFePmXs/RyIJAMTKCII/AAAAAAAAANo/UiELd_Nl4GQ/s400/%5B1%5D.jpg

No thanks..

God i hate lil wayne with a passion seriously he has no talent i know of 20 underground rappers than have way more skill than him.

Gobbledok writes...

This guy?

http://bp2.blogger.com/_hSJQoFePmXs/RyIJAMTKCII/AAAAAAAAANo/UiELd_Nl4GQ/s400/%5B1%5D.jpg

No thanks..

LOl, 'it was mafia shit!' I think was his response...no worries pal...Don't think al capone was kissing no blokes..

Has anyone seen the interview Lil Wayne has with that lady, and how he goes on about how he is a gangsta and a thug and shes like what do u mean, he goes i do what i want when i want? Grow a brain lil wayne those thug days are over your just a commerical rapper with some mixtapes that all sound the same

Chamillionaire vs Lil Wayne? Cham anyday of the week

Lil Flip vs Lil Wayne? Flip any day

Wayne go die in a hole somwhere.

i havent given lil wayne a chance but i guess he may have some talent.

im trying to find a freestyle from ahmad of fourth avenue jones, i think he was on wake up show. found out they are a christian rap group lol.

what about copywrite mc i had some of his older stuff from The High Exhaulted where he doesnt paint on the canvas he slams rapper on it.

not sure if its an album or mixtape the jerk which came out last year i think with some notable collabos with royce, someone from wu tang etc. i mentioned copywrite before and someone took it as a joke id rate him as a funny rapper like eminem as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah6rnjWEFB4

This is my fav all time freestyle just listen to Lil Flip i love it check it out

King Koopa™ writes...

i know of 20 underground rappers than have way more skill than him.

20? I could easily name you 100, no exaggeration.

And did the mods really just delete all my links? Even Crooked I's hip hop weekly's lol? He personally uploaded them to the net himself every week, is that not verification of their legality.

Gobbledok writes...

20? I could easily name you 100, no exaggeration.

Well yeah same here but im just saying 20 cuz at least 19 out of those 20 would eat lil wayne alive in freestyling

My All time favorite freestyle :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmFrrpjGyyc
lol moment of silence for the microphone after the he wrecks it, crazy stuff..never get sick of watching it.

Skip to 4:30 seconds.

RajKurupt writes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmFrrpjGyyc
lol moment of silence for the microphone after the he wrecks it, crazy stuff..never get sick of watching it.

Actually that is pretty sick flow

RajKurupt writes...

My All time favorite freestyle :p

"Plus gangsta rap aint dead, it didn't die, it took steroids to the head and became Crooked I"

"It's like you telling a statue to flinch my n*gga, your words don't move me"

"Young jacka, Gucci hat tilted gun clapper, I'm every artist Suge ever signed in one rapper"

That's gotta be one of the greatest radio freestyles ever.

Check out these ones too, also by Crooked I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpldVBtI8pE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv_QlQ_LI00

Gobbledok writes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpldVBtI8pE

DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN! man that was bonkers!!!..what a crazy dude...so many variations to his flow...real MC!

thanks for that man...good s***!

Gobbledok writes...

"Plus gangsta rap aint dead, it didn't die, it took steroids to the head and became Crooked I"

"It's like you telling a statue to flinch my n*gga, your words don't move me"

"Young jacka, Gucci hat tilted gun clapper, I'm every artist Suge ever signed in one rapper"

That's gotta be one of the greatest radio freestyles ever.

"[Crooked I]
Yo, this nigga never going broke again, picture me poor
I walk in the jewelry shop, draw glocks, empty the store
Crooked’s a man-eating lion please don’t tempt me to roar
Ghetto enough to put hydraulics on a Bentley Azure
Pimp me a whore, tough talk I simply ignore
Thousand dollar automatic weapons defend me in war
I rock a stalking cap in case,
I gotta pull it right over my well-known face and lay down the whole place
Its killer Cal styzz-al, where crimi-nals prowl
My residu-als pizz-ile, my lyri-cal style
Make them niggas sound boot-G
It’s like you telling a statue to flinch, my nigga your words don’t move me
They make want to triple this gauge
And you suckers’ll be Gone in 60 Seconds, quicker than Nicholas Cage
You get no action, I beats mo’ ass than Joe Jackson
I tote magnums even if I go fo’ platinums
I blast that Enyce shirt, I’ll make your bitch drop her DK skirt
Cuz that’s how niggas in southern CA work
I stay swift, walk with my chest out like an Ese on May fifth
I’ll tell you you ain’t shit
Plus gangsta rap aint dead, it never died
It took steroids to the head and became Crooked I
On the “book placed by the Gideons”
We can feud like cowboys and Indians
Or Israelis and Palestinians
I didn’t wanna resort to this
But my cerebral cortex is a fortress where metaphors exist
Hit you with the force of Morpheus after I transform my fist
To a hammer too heavy for Thor to lift
Through a course of metamorphosis
The U-gang is more than sick
Sicker than newborn porn, swinging on some George Forman shit
Warn your clique, I’m coming, nobody’s flapin’ with Mr. I-con
A natural born time bomb
You know I gotta drop cowards with nine millimeters of glock power
Drop trousers, do your girl in a hot shower, for a hot hour
Drop her off at the Watts Towers, the block’s ours
You seeing me not now or never
I’ll never let these snake niggas take me
I blow out brains to entertain me when I’m angry
I don’t tangle, I choke, strangle, break both ankles
Dangle you from a rope, clothes hang you from a cold angle
The Mangler so anxious to kill, able to spill
Ancient languages dangerous as 80 painkilling pills
Young jacker, Gucci hat tilted, gun clapper
I’m every artist Suge ever signed in one rapper
Chrome ending your life
I’m strong enough to stab you with the wrong end of a knife –
Gangsta type
And the lyrics that I quote, poke through my clothing
My father didn’t want me here but I broke through a Trojan…

It’s on – Wake Up Show It never stops on The Wake Up Show On The Wake Up Show, it can’t stop it’s Tha Ro-oh-uh-oh…

And we grindin’ and I keep a fo’ five in my lining…"

Full lyrics...some crazy lines in that freestyle

Gobbledok writes...

Slaughterhouse straight from the studio announcing their new album..

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/wLNHR23LkRuUktr2

Damn, that song at the start of the video sounds CRAZY.

Yeah man, Wonder which track that is...can't wait!.....Didn't know they are going to be in rock the bells...that's massive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3V99LVR_fI

Slaughterhouse Webisode pt 1 some good insight into the group...awesome video

Cassidy has good freestyles check his freestyle mixtapes out. also murda mook..he aint bad.

What do you guys think of that track by jay rock- how to rob '09?

50CENT ft EM NORMAN BATES MOTEL..

RajKurupt writes...

I’m every artist Suge ever signed in one rapper

I dont like this, altho its a tight freestyle hes claiming here to be Dr Dre , Snoop, Tupac, all in one? lol i find that very hard. Buts its a good freestyle dont get me wrong

I think he was just playing...Doesnt seem like a arrogant dude.

New Slaughterhouse – Fight Club

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWdgBoUHBdM

crazy!!!, check it out

I'm not hating on you guys posting links and sharing music via rapidshare, megaupload, mediafire etc ... i think you guys need to link to the actual site that hosts the music with the download link that claims that it's "free"

Saying it's free and hoping the mod won't delete it, wishful thinking

my 2cents

dont actually know what mixtapes are. So dont bother with the sites we know where most of them are anyway just keep linking the download links.

This..They are free for promotional purposes.

Kanye's early albums were prtty good eg. College Dropout and Late Registration
Tho he went dud on the last couple...
Mmmmm noones mentioned Nas yet? Whats up with that, hes one of the best rappers around

heard "Nobody – and everything else", sounds promising, might have to find his other 2 albums

Josharoon writes...

Mmmmm noones mentioned Nas yet?

I think I mentioned Nas. But yea, Nas is my all time favorite rapper and Illmatic is my all time favorite album.

Josharoon writes...

Kanye's early albums were prtty good eg. College Dropout and Late Registration
Tho he went dud on the last couple...
Mmmmm noones mentioned Nas yet? Whats up with that, hes one of the best rappers around

Kanye and Nas in my top 10 for sure, nas is in my top 5 rappers easy.

Never been a big fan of Kanye his first 3 albums were cool but that RnB autotune shit he put out was horrible. Not to mention he's an egotistical bastard.

He's an incredible producer though, he'll definitely go down as a legend for his beats.

King Koopa™ writes...

I dont like this, altho its a tight freestyle hes claiming here to be Dr Dre , Snoop, Tupac, all in one? lol i find that very hard

It's just typical rapper bravado talk. It's just a clever way of saying "I'm better than you", I don't think it was to be taken literally. Crooked is easily one of the more humble rappers out and is one of the few that actually pays homage to the legends.

RajKurupt writes...

New Slaughterhouse – Fight Club

Been out for a couple of months but yea, it's a dope song. It came out a few days after Crooked I was shot or shot at (no one knows if he got hit, the footage is on youtube if your that interested). But that's what he's referring to throughout the song and when he's talking at the end.

Kandiman writes...

i think you guys need to link to the actual site that hosts the music with the download link that claims that it's "free"

There's no real way to prove that these are free, they just are. Artists and DJ's just upload them to file hosting sites and spread them. Like I said before, they have to be free..

"Artists and DJ's are not legally allowed to make money off mixtapes unless they have all original production and everything (sample's etc.) has been cleared before hand. (which is extremely rare, once in a blue moon kinda thing)

I have no intention of posting anything illegal in this thread, thing's are easy enough to find on the internet these days. I just thought I'd post free material for people to check out if their interested in hearing new artists.

Gobbledok writes...

And did the mods really just delete all my links?

Probably because the content promotes T.H.U.G. life.

I watched a couple of these Crooked I videos & I reckon this gangsta's ish is off the hook!

I'm out the loop & never hear of Crooked I so thanks!

Johno_1989 writes...

Kanye

Beats were fresh but thats about it for him, Pretty average rapper

Gobbledok writes...

Been out for a couple of months but yea, it's a dope song

Ahh k, The Vid I posted was them discussing the platform for a track where they would cut each other off, That was the track they came up with.

Speaking of kanye i have been bumping Trough the Wire in the car heaps the last few days its the only song i like of his.

Whats up with this i thought this guy was dead

Rapper Tone Loc collapsed and passed out and had a seizure during an outdoor concert in Florida. According to reports, Tone Loc, born Anthony Smith, was performing at the Capt’n Fun Beach Club early Friday morning (May 29).

He apparently suffered the seizure due to overheating, although the temperature of the atmosphere was listed in the low 80’s.

During his six-song set, he made several references to the heat, before he passed out on the stage.

The rapper was rushed to a nearby hospital in an ambulance, where he is currently being treated.

According to reports, this is not the first time Tone Loc has suffered from a seizure on stage.

He also had one during a performance in Charlotte, N.C. on January 2008.

FUNKY COLD MADINA

Also does anyone know whats going on with Chamillionaire, last few days i have heard this stuff about 'The end is near' just went to his website to see this

http://chamillionaire.com/

People said Vemon is it and he is giving up rapping? Anyone got any news?

King Koopa™ writes...

People said Vemon is it and he is giving up rapping? Anyone got any news?

I just assumed it was the end of the wait for Venom. Guess we'll see soon...

Sick 3 more days till its released cant wait!!!

Alot of people hate on (face it theres always a hater talking crap.) chamillionaire but dude has talent.. Check his mixtapes and earlier albums..

I know he even address's those little internet haters, he has skill his voice is so much better than alot of rappers, and his lyrics are good.

I have all his albums love the mixtapes, was just listening to mixtape messiah 1 then 2 3 4 and its weird seeing his style changing. Its better though.

What was the name of those tracks' um internet nerds revenge 1 and 2 or something?.his voice changes quite abit just in those songs alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8I4OcL_6Fw&feature=related

This is tight hes done 2 of these, where he imitates the whole southside on the song. He is the whole song just changing his voice to sound like the other rappers

Who's your fave southern artist or southern rap group? @ above

My fav southern artist go like this

Lil Flip
Cham
UGK
Z-Ro
Devin the Dude
DJ Screw
Trae

Zero is good..trae is ok. Didnt really get into his music. Slim thug is good.. Wasnt slim thug, paul wall and chamillionaire part of a group or label mates? Im not to familiar with there back grounds.

Devin is that dude!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhSBYYS3X1o
devin the dude – to tha x-treme
one of my favorite tracks...just so calming and relaxing...used to bump this for hours back in the day with the mates chilling.

No one said Scarface or Bun B? 2 of the very few southern Legends. They're really the only south artist's I like, I don't mind the occasional T.I or Luda but don't care for the rest. Just don't like the Southern style at all..

I said scarface and bun-b pages back..

he put down UGK in that list...But yeah Face should be up there as well

kray-z writes...

Slim thug is good.. Wasnt slim thug, paul wall and chamillionaire part of a group or label mates? Im not to familiar with there back grounds.

Swisha house. Chamilionaire left cuz it was a dead end lable for him and they wasnt pushing his music, he went to universal and its been on ever since then

Did anyone see the beef with Mike Jones and Trae? Trea smacked him so hard it was on, mike jones was talking smack with about 9 of his niggaz and trae was by himself at an awards show trae broke his nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxnisUfW8tc&feature=related

Devin Classic – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1jdreS6ko

Slim Thug Remix Cham and Ro – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEcrbb6C3U8

A Song i just found and instantly love it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_te7TxRKPsU&NR=1

Cham and Devin

King Koopa™ writes...

Cham and Devin

yea great old song that one. also check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXI6dj-mvk

i'm loving these dream songs at the moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diifdluP9so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeKSECwoNhw

sizza writes...

also check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXI6dj-mvk

Yeah got that one wicked stuff hey.

What you think about this one :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wusj_AV4hh8&feature=related

Another great lyrical genius!

Lil Keke

I enjoy Hunt's music too – but I'm not too sure where he's from. Not too much info on him out there.

Been listening to a lot of KiD CuDi and Wale the past few days. Can't wait for there albums to be released!

Anyone based in Sydney can recommend a good hiphop/rap radio station?

King Koopa™ writes...

Another great lyrical genius!

2pac was far from a lyrical genius. Great passion and emotion in his delivery, but lyrically he left something to be desired.

Wink writes...

Anyone based in Sydney can recommend a good hiphop/rap radio station?

96.1 used to be good. Much more commercial now. Although you will find more r&b/hip-hop/rap on this station than you would on 96.9 and 104.1.

been listening to canibus – Poet Laureate Infinity aka 1000 bars...insane track, check it out...My mind hurts trying to decipher every single metaphor he throws up..

does anyone know what the Rap radio station is?

Gobbledok writes...

2pac was far from a lyrical genius. Great passion and emotion in his delivery, but lyrically he left something to be desired.

+1 But alas he was great.

so I went to necro at manning bar sydney uni on the weekend. Not many people there at all but was an awesome show! Necro was being dirty as always and mr hyde was a great hype man.
There was a heap of lads there though, you know those guys in like white polo shirts and white caps being a bunch of wankers. Ended up being a massive brawl at one stage that everyone got caught up in as this one little guy was hiding behind anyone he could and there was about 5 huge guys pushing through everyone trying to grab him. No security either which was funny.

The bathroom was an experience there everytime as well, I saw numerous people slip and fall into a puddle of urine was hilarious.

livefast.diehard writes...

96.1 used to be good. Much more commercial now. Although you will find more r&b/hip-hop/rap on this station than you would on 96.9 and 104.1.

96.1 is officially commercial now, but they do have a daily hip hop segment every 9-10pm and 9-11pm on Thursday nights. I like the Friday – Sunday segments 'cos they're DJ mixes on Fri + Sat, and all out Aus/NZ on Sunday.

Alternatively there's www.kseraradio.com which is been set up by the host of the show mentioned and backed by the ARN. Unfortunately I seem to be unable to stream any audio in the past few days :(

http://www.myspace.com/dollabeats

upcoming aussie rap artist^^

Songs:

Jay Sean ft Lil Wayne-Down: http://www.mediafire.com/?zkyzdoy3mzy

Justin Clase-Will You Be There: http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/83281513/file.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMKM-eQPB4

I don't usually listen to hip-hop/rap with all the crap and superficial lyrics sung these days, but 2pac was awesome.

he was a very soulful rapper that can touch billions of people...but big pun would eat him alive if it was just based on lyrics...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRL7Wruf1I

Check the track and listen to one of the best lyrical displays ever recorded.

crystell writes...

superficial lyrics

2pac

lol, most decent lyricists these days are much more political and try to send a message to the audience, whilst in the era of 2pac it was all about the women and the hydralics and what type of wheels your rolling on, can you elaborate? Are you trying to say that 2pac was not superficial? this is where superficial was invented!

What do you lot think of that new AZ album?

WezaG writes...

lol, most decent lyricists these days are much more political and try to send a message to the audience, whilst in the era of 2pac it was all about the women and the hydralics and what type of wheels your rolling on, can you elaborate? Are you trying to say that 2pac was not superficial? this is where superficial was invented!

Back in the day, it wasn't all about 'shake that ass for me girl' blah blah, albeit their were a few rappers who did talk about women in such a deregatory way but to a much less extent I've heard so-called 'rappers' these days. 2Pac's lyrics were deep, I guess they could be interpreted as superficial and vain but imo not really to me, but I haven't heard all of his stuff so I could be wrong. I think it was more the period after 2Pac's demise that other rappers such as Eminem, G-unit, 50 cent and all that crap came out..which is what I was referring to when I said superficial.

What, 2pac didn't send a message to his audience? I think that is an extreme statement, of course he did, people could identify with someone who talked about real things, real problems with real messages which is one of the reasons why he has gathered such a following. I don't really know of much modern political lyricists so I couldn't really say, I just listen to mainstream/stuff my brother DJ's like stuff by Bliss n Eso, Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West (yeah I know his lyrics are pretty horrid) ect. Any reccs for good artists I should listen to?

RajKurupt writes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkRL7Wruf1I

Thanks for that, but for some reason I can't come to like that song. Not even the lyrics..its all about him and how nobody can be blacker than he is and how if we're not in with the spinach quote we can 'get the flap out'. Someone please enlighten me.. LOL.

Its about the structure of the verses and the play with words

crystell writes...

2Pac's lyrics were deep

changes was about as deep as it gets, the other chunk of his music was about how badass he thought he was.

2pac didn't send a message to his audience?

He instilled a message of fear in my opinion, people think damn hes such a gangster, I should listen to him. In his early days, his style was unmatched (biggies style/flow was completely different), he was bringing something new to the game, he was a major player in rap development and he had some kickass and incredibly catchy songs. He has a massive following because of his presence and his classic songs and now that hes passed, people will jump on the bandwagon even more. I love 2pac for the things he did for hip hop, not his lyrics or his beats. He created diversity, be it superficial or not, he cemented the paths for future hip hop and for that he earns much respect.

If you want to hear some decent lyrics I just got myself a copy of Sabac – the ritual. Its not a good as his debut album "sabacolypse", but its worth listening to. I would recommend getting both. Im also a huge fan of Jedi Mind Tricks – Voilent by design. Immortal technique – revolutionary vol 2 is a recommendation as well.

My favourite recently is "I need drugs" by necro. Not much meaning in it, but the song cracks me up everytime.

If you want to hear some incredible wordplay I suggest picking up – best of organized konfusion. Stray bullet is an excellent song with meaning, check it out.

Has anyone here listened to (MF) DOOM's Born Like This? It's not new, I know, but I couldn't find any mentions of it.

TheTed writes...

(MF) DOOM's Born Like This?

Mate I loooove MF doom! to the person talking to me previous get MF doom!!! I havent heard this song though and unfortunately works now blocked youtube :( Im assuming the song is awesome.

figaro figaro!

WezaG writes...

I havent heard this song though

It's actually his new album... listen to Gazillion Ear especially, it's amazing.

Other good tracks: Ballskin, Lightworks (yeah, the Dilla beat), Absolutely, Rap Ambush, Cellz and That's That

crystell writes...

Thanks for that, but for some reason I can't come to like that song.

If you want just pure lyrics get "the greatest song of all time" but be prepared to do your head in trying to understand everything he says

poet laureate infinity

RajKurupt writes...

poet laureate infinity
canibus??

I remember this song from a while ago, such a great rapper, pity about his production...

Dead Prez if you want some political / consciousness rap...can't stand wack shit that just gets propz because what they say is 'right'...still has to be music!..dead prez all day for that.

WezaG writes...

changes was about as deep as it gets, the other chunk of his music was about how badass he thought he was.

pffffffffffffffft.

Changes.
Brendas Gotta Baby.
Dear Mama.
16 On Death Row.
Staring Through My Rear view.
Letter To My Unborn.
Until The End Of Time.
When Thugz Cry.
Life Goes On.
I Ain't Mad At Ya.
Thug Mansion.
Ghetto Gospel.

relapsed writes...

Changes.

Brendas Gotta Baby.

Dear Mama.

16 On Death Row.

Staring Through My Rear view.

Letter To My Unborn.

Until The End Of Time.

When Thugz Cry.

Life Goes On.

I Ain't Mad At Ya.

Thug Mansion.

Ghetto Gospel.

12 songs out of how many???

WezaG writes...

12 songs out of how many???

Thought since I not the biggest 2pac fan out there I will pick one song from the list and see if my statements stand true:

When Thugz Cry.

Born thuggin and lovin the way I came up
Big money clutchin, bustin while evadin cocaine busts
My pulse rushin, send my pulse into insanity
Shout at my cousin now we bustin if they yo' family
The coppers wanna see me buried, I ain't worried
I got a line on the D.A. cause I'm flapin his secretary
I black out and start cussin, bust 'em and touch 'em all
They panic and bitches duckin, I rush 'em and flap 'em all
I'll probably be an old man before I understand
why I had to live my life with pistols close at hand
Kidnapped my homey's sister, cut her face up bad
They even raped so we blazed they pad
Automatic shots rang out, on every block

Doesnt sound to deep to me. Sounds like hes wanking on about being a thug and trying to sex women. Didnt he do arts and ballet growing up?

TheTed writes...

Has anyone here listened to (MF) DOOM's Born Like This? It's not new, I know, but I couldn't find any mentions of it.

I mentioned it briefly way back in the thread.
It's a good album, but I think it's his weakest yet. This is mainly because it doesn't really feel like an album, it doesn't have a consistent sound. It's more like a compilation of various DOOM tracks that have been knocking around over the past few years since Mm...Food. E.G. Angels ft. Ghostface was on the Nature Sounds presents: Natural Selection compilation; Lightworks is the J Dilla beat from Donuts and that was already used by Q-Tip and Talib Kweli on a Peanut Butter Wolf album so it's starting to sound a little stale, IMO; That's That is a nice track, but the beat was on one of the Special Herbs album years ago – I was kind of hoping for new material, you know?

All things considered though, it's a solid album and better than 99% of everything else that's out there.

I'm really liking Sabac and Jedi Mind Tricks, ecspecially Uncommon Valor. Organized Konfusion are really good lyricists, but the beat sounds like every other rap song I've heard in regards to stray bullet which leaves my a little bored after a while, the extinction agenda and bring it on are awesome though. Thanks for giving me these reccs guys, I'm so accustomed to the likes of Akon, Nelly and I thought that was all their was to rap but now I've gotten a new insight I'm starting to really dig it. As you people say, much respect :)

crystell writes...

As you people say, much respect :)

Awesome to hear!

My fav sabac tracks – positive and negative, urban gorillas, aids

Fav jedi mind – deer hunter, sacrifice, retaliation, untitled, trinity

Organised konfusion – releasing hypnotical gasses (fkn awesome beat), black sunday, roosevelt franklin

Have a listen to those you wont be dissapointed. Granted most of these tracks came out years ago, they are still great.

WezaG writes...

Born thuggin and lovin the way I came up
Big money clutchin, bustin while evadin cocaine busts
My pulse rushin, send my pulse into insanity
Shout at my cousin now we bustin if they yo' family
The coppers wanna see me buried, I ain't worried
I got a line on the D.A. cause I'm flapin his secretary
I black out and start cussin, bust 'em and touch 'em all
They panic and bitches duckin, I rush 'em and flap 'em all
I'll probably be an old man before I understand
why I had to live my life with pistols close at hand
Kidnapped my homey's sister, cut her face up bad
They even raped so we blazed they pad
Automatic shots rang out, on every block

Doesnt sound to deep to me. Sounds like hes wanking on about being a thug and trying to sex women. Didnt he do arts and ballet growing up?

Yeah cause that verse clearly indicates he wants to sex women.

Heh.. maybe my addiction to friction got me buggin
Where is the love? Never quit my ambition to thug
Ain't shed a tear since the old school years of elementary
Niggaz I used to love, enclosed in penitentiaries
But still homey keep it real, how does it feel
to lose your life, over somethin that you did as a kid?
You all alone, no communication, block on the phone
Don't get along with yo' pop, and plus your moms is gone
Where did we go wrong? I put my soul in the song
to help us grow at times, but now our minds are gone
We went from brothers and sisters, to niggaz and bitches
We went from welfare livin, to worldwide riches
But somethin changed in this dirty game, everything's strange
Lost all my homies over cocaine.. mayne
See they ask me if I shed a tear, I ain't lie
See you gotta get high or die, cause even thugs cry

I shed tattooed tears for years
for my dead homeboys and my prison peers
Y'all ain't never heard my cries
Now you wonder why would you die?

listen to the song as well as read the lyrics

relapsed writes...

listen to the song as well as read the lyrics
I dont claim to be a 2pacologist. You picked a mere 12 songs that have some rational meaning in your eyes. From what I have heard from 2pac which would be mostly mainstream, although ive been around for a while now I heard most of it and the MAJORITY is superficial. I even took a song you mentioned that i didnt know the lyrics to and showed that its full of thugtalk with not much substance. Take superficial to be what you want it to be, but if "touch em all and flap em all and talking about being a thug growing up its all horseflap". If you cant see its just general thuggery talk with minimal meaning then I feel in my opinion you need to broaden your horizons on songs with meaning.

Because they thug it in the tracks doesn't mean they don't have meaning or they are less lyrical...Not taking into consideration tupac that you mentioned but all gangsta rappers in general...that's rubbish those rappers you mentioned don't have a shot against Big L or Pun.. But because they don't 'thug it' they are better artists?? nonsense...

Because they thug it in the tracks doesn't mean they don't have meaning or they are less lyrical...Not taking into consideration tupac that you mentioned but all gangsta rappers in general...that's rubbish those rappers you mentioned don't have a shot against Big L or Pun.. But because they don't 'thug it' they are better artists?? nonsense...

I totally agree. If you read from how this convo started you might get a better picture of what im on about. What I want to know is in what context does pun or big l have better shots then say someone like supernatural, esoteric, prevail from swollen members. All those guys are fanstastic lyricists with a unique style. Granted pun and big l have much more notoriety but what in your eyes makes them stand out? Im not trying to offend anyone here, im not very knowledgable on 2pac etc, but i have a respect for him because of what he did for rap not for being a lyrical genius. He does have a killer flow though :)

OH no no my bad I completely agree with what you think about 2pac and he is just a killer flow but as far as his lyrics go they aren't even close to nas for example...I thought you were talking about every thug gangsta rapper period...

Should have read through the whole discussion properly..

WezaG writes...

Granted pun and big l have much more notoriety but what in your eyes makes them stand out?

They both brought something to the table that makes them stand out above everyone else...That's the difference between great artists that will live forever and artists that will be forgotten...Big L for example was a game changer his flow and lyrics were something to be desired by rappers even today...Just check out his freestyles on youtube with jayz getting blown out of the water on a live on air freestyle..

His Wit and ability to bring sentences together with the more immaculate flow was just amazing...

check
the heist
or
Ebonics

His first album was and is a instant hit with back to back classics...Maybe the apeal is there because he passed away early and like many of our great entertainers they are cast into the spot light because of a tragedy but never the less the dude was a monster rapper.

RajKurupt writes...

check

the heist

or

Ebonics

Immaculate songs. The guy is an absolute legend. Do you reckon that the decent rappers coming out say 98 onwards would of had an impact as big as pun or Big L if they were back in those times?

I seem to think that rap grew immensely around 93 onwards. I think that alot of people caught onto it around that time and although most of the music that came out that year was brilliant, im thinking that alot of artists got recognised and are still stand outs because they were the first artists to be recognised when the rap phenomenon started. I feel if some of todays rappers were around in that time period that we wouldnt know as many classic rappers as we do today.

That reminds me I just saw a doco on big pun the other day...dammn he grew. I reckon though that people seem to recognise you more and popularity grows proportionately to pants size. When I saw necro on the weekend he had definately put on at least 20-30kgs since I last saw him and I dunno I just felt he seemed more dominant and intimidating, should do a study into it heheh.

btw im at work totally bored and this prolly just looks like im rambling on lol......

WezaG writes...

Immaculate songs. The guy is an absolute legend. Do you reckon that the decent rappers coming out say 98 onwards would of had an impact as big as pun or Big L if they were back in those times?

tough to say without sounding like a fanboy but they are legends in my book...I mean to consider big l a legend with 1 cd out how good does a dude have to be?

btw im at work totally bored and this prolly just looks like im rambling on lol......

ahah same here, SInce this thread I have just been bumping music non stop while 'working'

WezaG writes...

Doesnt sound to deep to me

That's your problem.

2pacs lines weren't very technical i have been listening to al eyez on me to find a good example. can someone provide a technical example of a 2pac line where he hits 3 or more syllable combos?

insanity, can it be vanity, wheres the humanity by eminem. now thats a technical line. crooked i has heaps of good ones rap 101 is a mad track.

This guys pretty good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLQbafBipw&feature=fvst

Hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GImtgg6N2XM

This guy is better than mchammer by far LOL

Shugyosha writes...

It's more like a compilation of various DOOM tracks that have been knocking around over the past few years since

This can be said of any DOOM album... 75% of MM..Food was made up of already released herbs, plus Kookies, One Beer and Kon Queso (aka Yee Haw) had been floating around for years. Even Op Doomsday had about 4 tracks that had been out for a year or more.

Personally I think it's in his top 3, with VV2 being the weakest. BLT doesn't have a totally consistent sound, but it's got segments that are either sonically or lyrically linked. It also makes it more interesting, and it flows well anyway. It's also welcome respite from the 50 plus minute hip hop albums that seem to be the norm now.

For me, his albums are like this:

1. Madvillain
2. VV1
3. BLT
4. Op Doomsday
5. Mouse and the Mask
6. Take Me to Your Leader
7. MM...Food
8. VV2

But I would give MM..Food a 4/5, so ranking them like that is a bit disingenuous.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

2pacs lines weren't very technical

His lines aren't very technical, but IMO his music has a great beat and good songs that tell a story. I'm a big tupac fan (Have all his albums / DVD's / non mainstream albums), and absolutely love his music.

Granted, I still like artists like Jim Jones / Hilltop / Bliss n Eso / 360 e.t.c.

Damn u like jim jones??
:p...

Man I used to love bone thugs when they were on Ruthless records before they started falling off....damn shame they made some great music together..loved art of war and E 1999 Eternal

WezaG writes...

If you cant see its just general thuggery talk with minimal meaning then I feel in my opinion you need to broaden your horizons on songs with meaning.

imo that song is deep and it isn't a 'thug track' boasting about being gangster, i dont see where your coming from saying its a thug track, lyrics are deep, not as much as the other songs i mentioned but the track definitely has more meaning than 90% of the rap today

repeatedlove1998 writes...

2pacs lines weren't very technical i have been listening to al eyez on me to find a good example. can someone provide a technical example of a 2pac line where he hits 3 or more syllable combos?

insanity, can it be vanity, wheres the humanity by eminem. now thats a technical line. crooked i has heaps of good ones rap 101 is a mad track.

2pac – hail mary

biggy was a better rapper/lyricist then pac..that's just fact like many others are better then him..

now stop acting like Damon from friday after next :p

TheTed, agreed on MF doom

RajKurupt writes...

Man I used to love bone thugs when they were on Ruthless records before they started falling off....damn shame they made some great music together..loved art of war and E 1999 Eternal

Yeah cant belive Flesh bone got out of jail then the idiot drives a car full of weed and guns. They were going to do a reunion album too

-Juzman- writes...

Hilltop / Bliss n Eso

Cant stand aussie hip hop

Anyone heard the new AZ album? I haven't had a chance to check it out yet but I can't wait. AZ's one of my all time favorites.

Kurupt & DJ Quik – Blaqkout, just leaked too.

rapgodfathers dont have it what site you guys getting these leaks from can u whim me

TheTed writes...

Personally I think it's in his top 3, with VV2 being the weakest.

Ah, I should have been more clear, when I said I thought BLT was his weakest I was only really comparing the three 'core' DOOM albums, I.E. Operation: Doomsday, Mm.. Food and Born Like This. I'd definitely agree with VV2 being the weakest overall. Taking those core three though, I rate them in order of release personally, they've gone downhill over time. But similar to you I'd still give BLT a 4/5 so that's not such a bad thing. Rating all the other projects as well, to some exent I don't think I can really do that, because he's trying to do different things? I love Madvillainy and Mouse and the Mask but, they're kind of not DOOM albums, they're Madvillain and Dangerdoom albums respectively, so it's kind of comparing apples and oranges, to an extent.

WezaG writes...

changes was about as deep as it gets, the other chunk of his music was about how badass he thought he was.

He instilled a message of fear in my opinion,

A message of fear? To me its a message of hope.

As for deep songs... just off the top of my head:

Unconditional Love
So Many Tears
Dear Momma
Ghetto Gospel
Life Goes On
Thugs Mansion
One Day At A Time
Keep Ya Head Up
Baby Dont Cry
Mommas Just A Little Girl

And so many more (which I can name if I check the back of my CDs)

I like 2Pac for his deep stuff... not for the gangsta stuff... and theres a LOT of deep ones!

RajKurupt writes...

biggy was a better rapper/lyricist then pac

I disagree. Biggie was just better at rhyming to the same kind of beat. Pac had that general raw and uncensored feel about his stuff.

King Koopa™ writes...

Yeah cant belive Flesh bone got out of jail then the idiot drives a car full of weed and guns. They were going to do a reunion album too

lol nodoubt

-Juzman- writes...

Biggie was just better at rhyming to the same kind of beat

Exactly I think he sold more then PAC as well if I'm not mistaken...with just 2 albums...bought NY back on top single handedly.

Gobbledok writes...

urupt & DJ Quik – Blaqkout, just leaked too.

how flapin dope is it!! got it in my car

its good?

I heard some single a couple of months back, wasn't feeling it that much...Might have to check it out

Just listened to the dj quik krupt i wasnt feeling it either just skipped tru the songs nothing that caught my attention. Will have to listen again properly but its pretty crap imo

I haven't listen to Blaqkout yet but I could of told you ages ago it would only really appeal to an acquired taste. I'm not sure I'll like it but I'll give it a chance.

I'm about halfway through AZ's new album and so far it's dope, a lot better than his last effort. I can't believe he wasted that intro beat though, he needed to drop a verse over it instead of just talking.

AZ has lost his touch with this album an the previous one. Bring back the old AZ lol. As for kurupt? the only solid solo album he done was tha streetz iz a muthaphuka.

Yea after giving AZ's album a couple of good spins I'm a little disappointed. Overall it's alright, just nothing about it really stands out as special. I want "AWOL" and "The Format" AZ back :(

I've given Blaqkout a few listens to and I think it's dope. It's different but I'm liking it, gotta feel good vibe to it. It definitely exceeded my (relatively low) expectations.

Been listening to Illmatic today for about the 100th time. One the greatest albums made by one of the greatest rappers. So many great tracks, never gets old!

Old track but complete banger!

Crooked i – Crooked go hard

Check the sample :p....mad track

http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/crookedi-gohard/

So if im correct keep your eyes of for June 6th people Venom is on the way :)

His website now says... The End Becomes Clear... 12-6-09 dam not 3 days now must have changed

http://twitpic.com/6kmac

RajKurupt writes...

Exactly I think he sold more then PAC as well if I'm not mistaken...with just 2 albums...bought NY back on top single handedly.

Nas and Jay-Z called – said you were wrong :) Wu-Tang is trying to get through but the line is busy.

jayz or nas wasn't pulling the number or hype that biggy pulled..

Damn after all these years and the east coast vs west coast war is still well and truly alive in this thread

lol nah Kurupt got me into hiphop heavy..was just a menace on doggystyle..my older cousin bought it over on a tape, I still remember I was begging him to leave it for me after listening to it back to back lol...

But just stating facts 2pac couldn't see biggy on wax..

RajKurupt writes...

But just stating facts 2pac couldn't see biggy on wax..

Honestly the only thing i think they can be compared on is the fact that they were both leaders of their respective territories.

Their type of Hip Hop was different.

Pac was raw and would say what he wanted when he wanted regardless of what people thought, he might of not told the deepest stories but he got straight to point and made people listen to what he was saying.
He was also a leader for the black community and gave them a voice, aswell as a great actor.

Biggie got more Technical on his tracks but thats all he had.

Biggie was a rapper and Pac was a Entertainer.

Regardless of all that look at when they were beefing. there was no clear cut winner

Been listening to
Makaveli and Dillinger- Dont Go 2 Sleep- released in 2003

Daz did all the beats on it...banging compilation, check it out all pac fans.

SnaZZy writes...

Biggie got more Technical on his tracks but thats all he had.

Biggie was a rapper and Pac was a Entertainer.

That's what I'm saying
he was a better lyricist.

RajKurupt writes...

That's what I'm saying
he was a better lyricist.

Yeah but i think what some people are saying is to them pac was a better Lyricist because he spoke about issues and go straight to it where he wasn't huge on wordplay.

if i have to choose a better lyricist out of the two i cant do it

Oh yeah...that's true..He was a icon in terms of the pain he portrayed through his music..but that doesn't make him a better lyricist that opinion is based on what people like to hear in terms of the material..

RajKurupt writes...

but that doesn't make him a better lyricist that opinion is based on what people like to hear in terms of the material..

Bingo

Btw chamillionaire wont be releasing venom or mixtape missah 7 and no collabo album wilth paul wall either

kray-z writes...

Btw chamillionaire wont be releasing venom or mixtape missah 7 and no collabo album wilth paul wall either

What!! What u mean? hes almost finished venom? wtf is going on?

King Koopa™ writes...

What!! What u mean? hes almost finished venom? wtf is going on?

+1

been waiting for this album!!!! I WANT IT BAD!

RajKurupt writes...

Been listening to
Makaveli and Dillinger- Dont Go 2 Sleep- released in 2003

Daz did all the beats on it...banging compilation, check it out all pac fans.

When Death Row records was almost gone, Snoop, Dre and 2Pac gone Daz Dillinger was the only decent artist left doing production/rapping. Before he left he took some 2pac records including these songs and redid some of the production/remixed some of the songs. He was going to release this compilation but faced legal issues. I think the tracks were given to Afeni Shakur.

Love First 2 Bomb on that album, sounds way better than the original version which is a suprise.

Rage Against The Machine.

/Thread

Thursday, June 04, 2009 A moment of clarity......

Let me say these things real briefly so this doesn't turn into something that I don't want it to be and so I don't have people thinking this some kinda stunt....( I don't get why some people would actually not believe me saying something like this anyways... )

Do rappers do so many publicity stunts that you can't tell what's real and what's fake?
Well I like to tell people what I really feel and its hard for me to keep it back. People can read my facial expressions well when it comes to what im passionate about.

I don't think I said anything about retiring. I tried to make sure I didn't use that word. You shouldn't either regardless of how it looks.

Fact. Mo More underground mixtapes after part 7. No jacking beats and putting out full cds. That Formula is old. To me. I have done it 100 million times and its just doesn't inspire me anymore. Sorry if it makes you feel a certain way. There are plenty other artists out there doing it that you can choose from.

Fact. Venom isn't gonna drop. Its not coming out. Im not dropped. Not depressed. Im not sad. Just telling you what Im thinking and what Im gonna do. No press release about it. No label rep saying it. Straight from the bosses mouth. You want me to "keep it real" right? The label seems very excited about releasing new product and thats a good thing right? There are a lot of people involved in the process now and what I think is dope is just becoming a different kind of dope. Fast forward. Scratch Venom. Im not gonna call it something else and still release it either. Whoever edits all that wikipedia info mentioned people I worked with in the past year but a lot of that stuff that was never planned for the cd anyways. Cant miss something you never had. The Past dope concepts will go into my vault. Key locked thrown away. Except for a couple of these that could fit anywhere .The music should fit together and not sound like its all over the place. You agree? Good.

Anyways ... someone that will probably read this always says to me that BARRY GORDY with the old MOTOWN RECORDS used to say this about music. K.I.S.S. "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID" ... I guess meaning that simple music isn't stupid but the person that doesn't wanna do it is.... (Yea I thought the same thing you are probably thinking about that quote.) I won't elaborate further on that but "at least David had a rock when he was fighting Goliath"......I got my hands tied and ain't a rock in sight.

This may seem off topic but....

FYI. I didn't pick hip hop police as a single just played cool in the public so I wouldn't sound like a disgruntled artist on a major. I liked it because of the creativity and because of the ruler but just not for a single. Hands went up in the room and I lost. Funny because thats what happened when me and paul were in a group but the results were in my favor and IN LOVE WITH MY MONEY WAS BORN. Any past record you may have questioned...I questioned also.... and any past record you thought was dope...I "knew" was dope....I still think Im good at knowing what sounds good even though im always at constant battle to prove that. About my past single choices- I could break down who did what but I wont. Who cares. I have always let people put the blame on me. " Im the one who recorded the songs right?" No problem. I can deal with it.

There are too many different worlds that I fit into and that would make a person think that I don't know which one Im supposed to be in. I know exactly who I am as an artist but its like the story is getting told for me in too many different ways. Now im erasing all of those lines and making one. If this explanation still doesn't make sense then maybe I can find a crayon and paint the picture clearer later. Thats the goal.

The end is a little bit more clear 6-12-09 (BAAWSE)

www.twitter.com/chamillionaire

so for real hes not releasing? farout way to get our hopes up after every song lol 'venom on the way' he'd say everytime.... sad

I think its pretty serious too i dont think we will see it but we will see mixtape 7 thats it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZDTQJ6GXw&feature=channel

Mos Def's new album "The Ecstatic" leaked. I'm definitely going to buy this one though, gotta support real hip hop and Mos is the epitome of it.

Mos def was out yesterday morning..pastor troys album leaked too and black eyed peas (which i dont care bout) an their bonus tracks came out last night sometime

damn shame about cham...dudes got hooks for days, Hope I will hear him on of those at least.

It was unexpected to say the least. alot of people hated that riding dirty track..i guess the was so many remixes and freestyles used on it people got sick of it. Kind of like the Game's track one blood with like 15 people on it than the remixes came out and freestyles.

Chamillionaire Says Venom Isn't Dropping, Done With The Mixtape Game, No Paul Wall Collabo

Chamillionaire fans awaiting the release of his third major label LP, Venom, will have to cross the album off their wanted list this year.

The Houston rapper says the album has been scrapped because he isn't entirely too happy with the product.

"The Venom album--is not coming out. Universal didn't shelve it, I'm not going to drop it--I don't want to drop it," Cham tells fans during a live broadcast earlier tonight, June 3rd, 2009.

"Mixtape Messiah 7...I'm not dropping that either. I'm not putting out Mixtape Messiah right now, I'm not putting out Venom."

Before getting into details as to why he isn't planning on releasing those two discs, Chamillionaire took some time to adamantly clarify that there will not be another Paul Wall collabo album.

"There will not be another Paul Wall and Chamillionaire album--there wont."

"Shout out to Paul, we're real cool right now, we got past all the beef and everything but there wont be another Chamillionaire and Paul Wall album."

"I don't see it in the future, it has nothing to do with beef with Paul--it has nothing to do with money because the label--they offered me, they told me alotta money, I could tell you how much right now and some people'll get mad, but it has nothing to do with that---its bigger than that."

Cham also says he's done with the mixtape saying he isn't dropping anymore after giving it some thought.

Jay-Z's Blue Print 3 Hitting Stores On September 11th?

An Atlantic Records executive may have inadvertently let the cat out of the bag after posting a message via his twitter page regarding Jay-Z's Blue Print 3 release date.

The album, which is arguably one of the years most anticipated releases, has been at the center of much discussion after Jay bought his way out of making it a Def Jam release for a cool $5 million late last month.

According to Atlantic Records executive Sam Crespo, Blue Print 3 will be released via Jay-Z's RocNation with Atlantic assisting in marketing and promotions.

The album is slated to hit stores on September 11th, 2009 , celebrating the 8 year anniversary of Jay's first Blue Print in 2001.

Rapper Necro Arrested For Fight In Australia

Rapper/producer Necro was arrested in Perth, Australia on Thursday (June 4) following a fight with an unidentified man, reports local paper The West Austrilian.

The New York based rapper got into the physical altercation with man at around 10:30 a.m. (local time), leaving one man injured with minor injuries after being punched in the face.

Police were called in, and took Necro (real name: Ron Braunstein) where he is being held until a court appearance Friday morning (June 5).

The official charges he was hit with, if any, were unknown at press time.

Necro is currently on an overseas tour, with Perth being one of the stops. He was scheduled to perform at the local Hyde Park Ballroom, but the date was cancelled due to the arrest.

However, remaining dates are expected to go ahead as planned. He will hit one more stop in Australia before moving on to New Zealand, Norway, and then back to the U.S. to begin dates for the upcoming Rock The Bells tour.

kray-z writes...

Rapper Necro Arrested For Fight In Australia

Lol I can easily see that happening hahaha. Hes a big guy wouldnt like to be on the receiving end of that.

On another note found this little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuVY01RlkaA

I like this one over papoose's one, the beat is awesome.

kray-z writes...

Rapper Necro Arrested For Fight In Australia

goddamn ice junky crackheads, this will get back to the states and even less rappers will come to our shiity "ice-o-lated" town. snoop said he would never come back looks like i will have to fly over to melbourne if eminem tours again.

we got the GAME concert shut down but that was after we got attacked and after the man had walked of stage. some up and coming rapper was trying to make a name for himself. unfortunatley some fremantle dockers got involved and they got dropped from the team.

Whos fighting at 10am? I can barely be bothered taking a piss that early let alone fighting someone.

Gobbledok writes...

Whos fighting at 10am?

crackheads that havent slept the night before lol

^^Lol thats bout right

Where can I get some Crooked I tracks? Checked him out on youtube and like what i see....

Can someone post a link to the recent Joell Ortiz Mixtape he put out where he does mashups of classic hip-hop tracks throughout the 90's, I forget what it's called but I can't find a valid link anywhere.

SpaceSuit writes...

Where can I get some Crooked I tracks? Checked him out on youtube and like what i see....

http://www.dubcnn.com/mixtapes/crookedi-youngbossvol2/

^ free mixtape...get that

and couple of pages back his freestyles were posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJAr3snB38A&feature=related

So awesome Big Daddy Kane dropping the mic.

kray-z writes...

Rapper Necro Arrested For Fight In Australia

someone proberly made fun of his lisp.

kray-z writes...

Chamillionaire fans awaiting the release of his third major label LP, Venom, will have to cross the album off their wanted list this year.

Thanks for that update, you'd think he'd have a fair bit to write about too.

kray-z writes...

Lol waits for mods to delete everything as usual

They cannoy delete the Crooked I mixtape as the website says its free.

I need Build for cuban linx 2!!!!sick of all the wack album releases....I couldn't believe how bad the new busta rhymes cd was...:( destroyed me that guy!...i have all his cds but the latest one which I will defiantly not buy...completely fell off!..

Big Bang was underrated bad....one of the best releases for that year easily

Ok well the only good releases this year has been eminem-relapse and mos def's new album. az-new album- trash! Jada- new album trash! Busta's new album- trash! d-blocks new album came out yesterday but havnt had a chance to hear it yet. but i wont be suprised if its trash too.. so if anybody has heard it let me know what its like and even worth getting.. i think d-block now is jada, styles, sheek, snype lyfe, bully and bucky..i think..

Im waiting on that lox album (jada, styles, sheek) btw is it just me or is that dude ('oj da juiceman' what a f u c k i n g name lol) really annoying and wack..how he got on jadas new album is a mystry to me lol..and i thought gucci mane was bad

Nice to see one of my thread reaching more then 2 pages ;D

btw any concert happening soon?

Not that im aware of.. Than again i dont go out of my way to find these things out lol.. But um wasnt there a thread about ghostface or something?

Ey, had a bit of a skim through the thread – fair bit of Tupac/Biggie talk, bit of commercial rap + a bit of "underground"-type hip hop too, which is cool.

My fav Rap/Hip-Hop artists are: (no particular order)

Beastie Boys
Talib Kweli
Common (pre Be)
Oh No
DOOM (MF)
Dilla
Dudley Perkins
Flying Lotus
Gang Starr
J Rocc
Madlib (and all his monikers...I wont bother naming them)
Lootpack
Wildchild
Mos Def
Peanut Butter Wolf
The Roots

Bit of gangsta stuff...
Daz & Kurupt
Royce Da 5'9"
Warren G
Xzibit

Saw some discussion of DOOM's new album. I rkn it's pretty good. Favourite songs: Cellz and Absolutely. Least fav (never listen to): Yessir!, Rap Ambush and Batty Boyz. Looking forward to MV2 and Q3...Stones Throw give out a fair few teaser pics of them... :@

kray-z writes...

Lol waits for mods to delete everything as usual

if you want my songs whim me for either the website or direct links

Its ok @ above ive got tons of mixtapes, singles, albums, vls etc. Thanks for offering though

jaker writes...

My fav Rap artists

Dr Dre
Snoop Dogg
Warren G
Xzibit
Dem Franchize Boyz
Ice Cube
Kurupt
50 Cent
Avant
Omarion
Bow Wow
Tupac
Daz
Ray J
Afroman
The Game
Lloyd
Pretty Ricky
Lil John And the Eastside Boyz
DMX
Biggy Smalls
Drake
B2K
N.W.A
Eazy E
Ludacris

Well, my mate is an artist. Check out his site. www.l-fresh.com

His new mixtape – created and recording in 24 hours – Thats crazyyy!

ONE NIGHT STAND MIXTAPE FREE DOWNLOAD
Download the ONE NIGHT STAND Mixtape here for free.

The mixtape was put together by L-FRESH AKA The L in one night and recorded over 2 days. The purpose of this was for L to challenge himself to see how much he could do in a short period of time.

Tracklisting
1. One Night Stand Introduction (Instrumental: The Second Coming – The Large Professor)
2. Wake Up (Interlude) ft. CLay
3. Music Is All I Got (Spoken Word)
4. As We Preach (What Is Wrong?) (Instrumental: My Soul Ain't For Sale – DJ Jazzy Jeff)
5. One Night Stand ft. zZzILLAS (Instrumental: Fireside Favourite – Groove Armada)
6. Ashez D Blak (Interlude) ft. Ashez D Blak
7. Crymz1 Phone Freestyle ft. Crymz1
8. Raise Em Up (Instrumental: Black Superman – Above The Law)
9. Rapper-S (Interlude) ft. Rapper-S
10. Illness (Freestyle) (Instrumental: MCs Act Like They Don't Know – KRS One)
11. Toy Soldier (Spoken Word)
12. The Playground (Instrumental: Why You Hate The Game – The Game)
13. Still Representin' (Freestyle) (Instrumental: Still DRE – Dr. Dre)
14. If You Ain't Feelin' The Love (Instrumental: Practice – DJ Jazzy Jeff)
15. On My Own (Instrumental: Hold The Key – Scientifik, God Wize...)
16. The Realist (To A Long Lost Friend) (Instrumental: Run That Back – DJ Jazzy Jeff)
17. Eternal Suffering (Spoken Word)
18. One Night Stand Outro

Download link here: http://www.l-fresh.com/downloads/ONSM09.zip

Free download. Parental Advisory. Explicit Lyrics

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kray-z writes...

Ok well the only good releases this year has been..

Album of the year for me is still tied between Saigon & Statik Selektah and Reks. Plus I know I'm forgetting a couple of good ones that I can't remember. Blackout! 2 is top 5 imo.

D-Block was better than expected but still nothing amazing, worth a listen. I'm waiting for the LOX album though.

Cam'ron was wack (surprise surprise) but Jadakiss' album was dope imo. I absolutely hated it after a few listens and totally gave up on it but for some reason I went back and listened to it about a month later and then couldn't stop listing to it for like a week straight.

Mos Def was alright, AZ was very average, Relapse was overhyped bullshit that 99% of people wouldn't even of given a second listen to if it didn't have the name Eminem attached to it.

Really? Blackout 2? i gave it a couple chances and listend to it a few times, but it doesnt seem to have that classic red an meth vibe.. But than again thats just my opinion.

jaker writes...

My fav Rap/Hip-Hop artists are:

In terms of US acts;

Beastie Boys
7L & Esoteric
N.W.A
Dre (older stuff mostly).
Method Man
Cypress Hill
House of Pain
Eminem and so forth.

In terms of Aussie acts;

Billy Bunks
Brad Strut
Bias B
Terra Firma
Spit Syndicate
Art of War
The Herd
Funkoars
Lyrical Commission
D.U.B.C (Down Under Beats Crew)
Muph & Pluto
Pez
Downsyde

I guess that's what I'm mostly listening to atm, probably left out a few.

kray-z writes...

Really? Blackout 2? i gave it a couple chances and listend to it a few times, but it doesnt seem to have that classic red an meth vibe.. But than again thats just my opinion.

I felt the same i listend to it a few times and just thought it was utter shit for there standards i mean compare that to the orginal blackout and even their solo albums expecially Redman it just dont have that funk doc feel.

Only song i like on the album is City Lights with Bun B

Gobbledok writes...

Cam'ron was wack (surprise surprise) but Jadakiss' album was dope imo. I absolutely hated it after a few listens and totally gave up on it but for some reason I went back and listened to it about a month later and then couldn't stop listing to it for like a week straight.

Haha Cam'ron's comeback was the complete opposite of Eminem's....
Im a huge killa cam fan, own a few of his records but Crime Pays.... g'damn.... had like 2 decent hits out of like 22 tracks.

And if you were interested, those two tracks I thought were:

Get It In Ohio
Got It For Cheap

Btw who is skitzo? i noticed he done most if not all the beats on that new cam album. Is he a dipset producer or something?

My favourite hip hop song at the moment is I'm at War :D

Anybody else sick of that Ron Browoz/borowz which ever his last name is. he done a couple joints like dancin on me and jumpn out the window and i think conglomerate (production for them tracks)

we should also do 'what you are listening to now'

I have been bumping that crookedi, raekwon and ghostface track back to back since friday after work....just pure raw hiphop!...

People sick of that autotune rubbish?

Roger troutman did that shit but that's all should have ever have the right to do it...he was a legend! real king of the westcoast

I know you underground rap fans have heard of X raided? he been locked up for life and does his music from jail he got some really tight beats i got most of his albums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2DK1abDx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD-IUyiEAA0&feature=related

He is pretty raw

ron brownz is wack...all he does is that gay auto tune shit....that new Busta album was probably the worst album I heard all year

^filled 2 the brim with that auto tune rubbish

Good to see im not the only one sick of that guy. dont get me started on that T-pain tosser the guy thinks hes the one that started that voice s h i t

Anyway...

kray-z writes...

T-pain

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Ahhhhhhhh *wipes tears from eyes* ahahahahhahah

*takes breath* ahahahahahhahahahhaHAHHAHAHAHA

Please no more!

And the worse thing is people are buying the crap! the guy just brought a chain bigger than lil jons 'Crunk aint dead' chain. Anyway Period pain..oops ment t-pain spent over 400k on it lol..

kray-z writes...

And the worse thing is people are buying the crap! the guy just brought a chain bigger than lil jons 'Crunk aint dead' chain. Anyway Period pain..oops ment t-pain spent over 400k on it lol..

I can't even afford foil jewelery :(

And I just figured out how most rappers get into shape!

They were 80KB of Jewelery for 1 week ;D

More money than sense? so whats the next lot of albums about to be released? Havent been paying much attention lately

Raekwon – Yes Sir (Ft Ghostface Killah & Crooked I)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJWNVnDaMP0

Ghosts verse is crazy..

F*** detox I want cuban linx 2 :(

Anyone going to any of Ghostface's concerts?

He's 10 years too late IMO. I don't see any of the Wu as having the 'senior' appeal like their rock contemporaries. Just not the same energy from the 90's.

I got my ticket!, Yeah 10 years to late bad!...Hopefully its all the old heads with pure knowledge that come like the cube concert..that was nuts!..Dmx was wack sauce tho...I don't care who you are, how you look..Just know your shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NnQWLlFMY&feature=channel

my dream! I will never see raekwon live :( just destroys me...

Makes me soo bloody happy after waiting and waiting for crooked to get his time in the spotlight and the recognition he justly deserves that video makes me feel like I won the lottery..straight up

Well now I understand why Biggie said on his Life After Death album that he didn't want to be rapping on the wrong side of 30-40 and wanted to retire in his prime. Not that I'm hating, cause guys like De La Soul still reprezentin', but if I had to use an analogy, it's like watching a legendary boxer fighting at 40 because he needs money. I guess you always remember the glory years and classic LPs when they had something to prove.

RajKurupt writes...

Ghosts verse is crazy..

F*** detox I want cuban linx 2 :(

yup Ghost is coming down at the end of the month gonna be crazy!~

The album Deltron 3030 is my favorite Hip Hop album of all time.

For those that haven't listened to Deltron 30303 before or are unfamiliar it's a Hip Hop Opera of all sorts, starting Del in the year of 3030 where he uses his Emceeing and H4x0r skillz to fight back against a NWO type establishment/future. If the Matrix was a album consisting entirely of Hip Hop, Deltron 3030 would be the one.

I like that beat...

m.o.b. writes...

ron brownz is wack

Dude Ron Browz has been Producing for years. they dont call him Ether Boy for nothing

SnaZZy writes...

Dude Ron Browz has been Producing for years. they dont call him Ether Boy for nothing

He's still the corniest dude in hip hop.

Shame Venom isn't coming out :(

I still love Creepin Solo......

Wanted more..

Gobbledok writes...

He's still the corniest dude in hip hop.

im pretty sure Souljah boy has that title

Soulja Boy, Rap? Your funny

Mos Def was on Letterman tonight.

Digital EPs Coming From All Slaughterhouse Members, Royce Da 5?9 Readies Street Hop

Royce 5'9 is a machine that stays in the studio night and day. For proof, look no further than the amount of music he has ready for release over the next year months.

Not will he be releasing the highly-anticipated project from his Slaughterhouse crew (Crooked I, Joell Ortiz and Joe Budden) in July, but he's also prepping the release of his long-awaited solo album, Street Hop, in September.

The album, executived produced by DJ Premier, has already generated overwhelming critical accolades just from the release of street-singles such as "Shake This" and "Part Of Me".

However, before his official solo release, Royce is planning to drop a Digital only EP entitled The Revival, which will include new tracks from Royce's Street Hop LP along with a new unreleased Slaughterhouse track. Royce will also be debuting a new single and video for The Revival in the very immediate future.

Likewise, each member of Slaughterhouse will also be releasing a new digital EP throughout the month of July, and each release will contain a new Slaughterhouse track that will not be included on their debut.

"I'm looking forward to releasing new music and touring this summer. Street Hop has been in the works for almost two years and the release date will be here before you know it," said Royce. "The Revival will give people a chance to see what I've been up to and what to expect from the album. The month of July will belong to Slaughterhouse with the release of our full length group album and solo EPs from me followed by Joell, Joey and Crooked. We will show fans why we are the ones to watch."

The entire Slaughterhouse collective will be hitting the road this summer for the Rock The Bells tour, hitting Chicago, Detroit, New York, Boston, and Los Angeles among other stops.

Street Hop is due in stores September 22, but before that, The Revival will hit the web months earlier on July 7, followed by digital EPs from the other members of Slaughterhouse.

thats great news really 2009 will be an awesome year for hip hop.

i like nickel nine's song street hop for a previous album he also says on that song that he is the only person to ever spank eminem on the same track with him. probablly refering to bad meets evil.

$$DoLLaZ$$ writes...

Soulja Boy, Rap? Your funny

Who said anything about rap?

kray-z writes...

Digital EPs Coming From All Slaughterhouse Members, Royce Da 5?9 Readies Street Hop

July's going to be crazy if all those EP's actually drop. Then the Slaughterhouse album is scheduled (tentatively) for an August 11th.

An EP from crooked I will be good considering its the closest thing to an album hes done and RELEASED in a very long time. his mixtapes are heat but its nothing near "album materal' and all his own original beats an not raps over other beats like for freestyles etc

young boss vol 2 , block obama and St. Valentine's Day Bossacre are the closest to albums so far...all original beats..But yeah this slaughter house thing sounds like the real deal atm...actually opening doors for him in the industry.

completly

Hope these guys get the right amount of promotion from their label. Alot of labels are tight when it comes to promo work.

so crooked i does his own verses and his own beats????

yeah regarding hype this is a bit of an unannounced surprise for royce to bring out his album and only hype it 1 month before hand.

Nah he has his own in house producers + he gets beats from pete rock n such...all bangers tho.

Complex and Jim Gettum (ex death row inmate)

Wasnt def jam the worse for promo work. They spend most their promo money on jay-z. Even LL Cool J spoke up bout it and p i s s e d a few people off at def jam.

Slaughterhouse just finished a radio interview on Shade 45 (Eminem's station). They're all in NY at the moment doing a promo run and recording a new video.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

so crooked i does his own verses and his own beats????

Yes Crooked I and the rest of Slaughterhouse write their own lyrics. These are the guys that write for other people, not the other way round. But no none of them produce beats.

yeah regarding hype this is a bit of an unannounced surprise for royce to bring out his album and only hype it 1 month before hand.

Royce's album (Street Hop) isn't coming out till September, he's dropping a digital EP next month, as are all the other Slaughterhouse members. Not proper retail album's though.

But the Slaughterhouse group album will come out in August.

Gobbledok writes...

Slaughterhouse just finished a radio interview on Shade 45 (Eminem's station).

wouldnt mind getting shade 45 on sirius internet radio but its abit expensive. they dont upload like podcasts etc just a few audio clips here and there hey?

These are the guys that write for other people

yes i know ghost writters. "dont worry if i write rhymes i write checks" – p diddy used royce i think.

As reported on Friday, assault charges against DMX have been dropped, paving the way for the rapper’s return to the genre of Hip-Hop. The rapper, born Earl Simmons, was charged with felony attempted aggravated assault, for an alleged altercation with a guard at the Tent City Jail, where he was incarcerated for 90 days on separate, animal cruelty and fraud related charges.

The charges was dropped this morning (June 8), in a Maricopa, Arizona courtroom a representative for the rapper has confirmed.

DMX entered into a plea agreement where he pleaded guilty and was dismissed with no jail time or additional probation.

The rapper will still serve 18 months of supervised probation.

“DMX is standing on the corner eating a hot dog at the court house in Phoenix and is now a free man,” a representative for the rapper said. “He is happy to be free and ready to begin his new life.”

DMX, 38, is currently accepting tour dates and is planning to hit the road in support of his upcoming projects, including a double Gospel/Hip-Hop album titled Walk With Me Now and You’ll Fly With Me Later.

Lets just hope he gets his s h i t together and brings out a sick album.

Idk i think dmx's day has come and gone. I dont see another classic dmx album anytime soon. I heard him and mase were doing a gospal album together lol. Dont know how true that is though. Isnt it amazing how many people find god when locked up lol..its like theyre full on religous when they locked up or get out.

as much as i liked this first 2 cds...its a wrap for dmx...atleast he gave us some legendary albums.....

That joint he did with 50 cent and stypes p was hard as nails on his last cd tho...one of the maddest tracks for that year.

We all can hope he will give us another classic but I don't see it happening as well..

repeatedlove1998 writes...

"dont worry if i write rhymes i write checks"

lol love that line.

Another free mixtap someone might like

Lil Flip and The Dream Team – Fly as we wanna be Vol 1

http://www.myspace.com/lilflip

Mods mixtape is free this is Lil Flips official myspace and says right there on the page click here download for free.

Cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMuf_ekJhOs

Jay-Z – D.O.A

Death of the Autotune!

Has anyone got the new mef-red blackout 2 album? IT'S HOT

MEF: "go ahead and google me, your boy flow fluidly(yes), STILL GOT THAT WU IN ME"

METHTICALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

King Koopa™ writes...

Lil Flip and The Dream Team – Fly as we wanna be Vol

damn whatever happen to flip career....ever since the T.I. beef his career just went away....

m.o.b. writes...

damn whatever happen to flip career....ever since the T.I. beef his career just went away....

I Dont think so.

Alot of people would take Flip over TI any day of the week. And flip crushed him on the beef.

A minor lame beef was T.I. And Gucci mane i think. Now that was a weak battle lol

Two rappers i carnt stand is juvenile and B.G. both got annoying voices.

you guys watch the beef series?

think it was number 2 with ti and lil flip...was pretty entertaining :)...

All time greatest destruction was a tie in my eyes between

ja rule / murder inc getting dismantled by 50 cent

and

game destroying g-unit

full circle really lol

Lol ^^ sounds like karma

lol yup couldn't have happened to a nicer person

GZA/Genius is coming to Australia in September! He's performing at the Coaster Festival in NSW, no Melbourne shows announced yet.

I'm so excited, he's my favourite member of the Clan.

Details of Coaster Festival: http://www.yourgigs.com.au/event/?61908677

JB HiFi writes...

GZA/Genius is coming to Australia in September! He's performing at the Coaster Festival in NSW, no Melbourne shows announced yet.

I'm so excited, he's my favourite member of the Clan.

Details of Coaster Festival: http://www.yourgigs.com.au/event/?61908677

Man wtf is he doing playing at that? Look at all those other duds. They seriously need a pure rap festival in Aus. I would love to go and see him but 80 bucks is steep especially when hes only prolly going to be on for 45 mins.

RajKurupt writes...

dismantled by 50 cent

I love when fiddy got smashed in amsterdam and talked sh!t about gza, even though gza is the man, fiddy did say some funny a$$ sh!t.

"what is he a scientist or somethin"

Why dont they just bring out the whole wu-tang clan and be done with it lol

i watched weird figgy cent youtube clip where he starts by taking a dig at lil wezzy by playing guitar. he then goes into a ramble about that rick ross guy and shows footage of his crew at rick ross' mums work lol.

he then asks the question of were has ja rule disappeared to alluding to the fact that he has vanished off the face of the earth, perhaps murdered. he also mentions something similar about another person who he had beef with.

gza comming cool. which members of wu tang have come to aus i know of rza, ghostface and now gza plus their enterage of minor support acts from wu fam.

btw flo rida is coming with beyonce, not that im going to beyonce and not that ive ever seen or heard flo rida in my life.

man gza – in pro tools

Just schooled him...I mean the 1 track no other wu member has to say anything after that track...pure hiphop annihilation..

'I will finish this only cuz i let of first wassup!'

kray-z writes...

Why dont they just bring out the whole wu-tang clan and be done with it lol

organising one b0ng addicted gangsta is hard enough let alone a whole pack of them :P

but would love to see a full crew show, i think that would sell out pretty quick over here.

JB HiFi writes...

GZA/Genius is coming to Australia in September! He's performing at the Coaster Festival in NSW, no Melbourne shows announced yet.

You got a link?

I will go to syd with mates if that's true...I will not miss a opportunity to see him live..

RajKurupt writes...

You got a link?

I will go to syd with mates if that's true...I will not miss a opportunity to see him live..

He did put a link in:

http://www.yourgigs.com.au/artist/index.cfm?64477

was in little writng tho.

ahh my bad..

Rock The Bells is going overseas this year, I wonder if it will come to Aus. I hope so because the line up is crazy..

http://www.guerillaunion.com/rockthebells/images/acts.png

Gobbledok writes...

Rock The Bells is going overseas this year, I wonder if it will come to Aus. I hope so because the line up is crazy..

http://www.guerillaunion.com/rockthebells/images/acts.png

oh my god.......

I would fail at that concert, trying to run to each act like an addict for crack.

That is the best lineup

WezaG writes...

I would fail at that concert, trying to run to each act like an addict for crack.

nope be like a groupie and ring the hotel using rappers real name. in the case of when red and meth came.

"hey yo put me through to reggie's room" in your best american accent. ay dog ay.

my bro and his crew ended up having a drink with dj premier and 2 of his entourage.

what famous rappers have you guys met?

WezaG writes...

Man wtf is he doing playing at that?

This is Australia and the demand for top hip-hop acts is relatively low compared to other genre's.

I think its funny that 50cent said he could ruin wu-tangs carear. Than gza released paper plates (50cent diss) an as far as im awhere there wasnt a reply after that. Than 50 went on to say ghostface uses a ghost writer and that lloyd banks could easily win a battle between them.

repeatedlove1998 writes...

what famous rappers have you guys met?

A-Plus, Opio and Tajai from Souls of Mischief. I may be pushing the definition of famous though.

And my mate met Chali 2na, but I was at the bar. He goes on about it every time he hears Chali 2na on a track. :/

kray-z writes...

Than gza released paper plates (50cent diss) an as far as im awhere there wasnt a reply after that.

Lol he don't want it with rza...he shouldn't have went after wu in the first place for the simple fact

-the fans of wutang are hardcore loyal and understand hiphop as a more underground cult status symbol then fans of jarule for example...Not MTV fans but tapedeck fans if you will...

Well 50 didn't really start it, although it all stemmed from How to Rob that track wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. Unfortunately Ghostface took it seriously and 50 and the Wu have had beef ever since. That whole Clyde Smith skit on Supreme Clientele is a 50 diss.

Sorry if you already know this stuff but the 50/Wu beef has been going on since at least 2000.

I think they didn't take that seriously as opposed to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmHJjB54Rk0&feature=related...called em dust smoking dirty n*****...was a hard diss tho...dude went hard back in the day before all that candy shop rubbish

Shugyosha writes...

That whole Clyde Smith skit on Supreme Clientele is a 50 diss.

yup

Its the same with jada tho he said something like ninja turtle and just got stream rolled by stylesp and jadakiss...quite as a mouse since...

Speaking of Ja Rule where is he? whats he been doing?

King Koopa™ writes...

Speaking of Ja Rule where is he? whats he been doing?

Wack R&B with his shirt off, IIRC. :D

Lol hes still around. He had a song put out a couple weeks back..very boring.

sorry miss jackson track by jada and styles. They used the track 'sorry miss jackson' by outkast. (g-unit diss..mainly at 50 though) classic diss track right there lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6HLi4oCebc

Bumpin this at the moment :)

Just downloaded the Hilltop Hood's new album from http://www.bandit.fm
Hopefully it's worth the $14.90!

^^^They had an EP out like a week or two back

anyone picking up the new hoods album today?

G-Unit > Murda Inc.

slaughterhouse > *

Remember west coast rapper knoc'turnal? He has a new song out today and a new album or mixtape coming shortly. i think he was discoverd by dr.dre too.. The only last track he was on was put out on The Wash soundtrack. If you havnt seen The Wash go check it out. Main actors are dr.dre and snoop and Eminem

Oh and he did put out 2-3 albums. And Hitmans album wasnt to bad either (for those who dont know who he is, he is or was part of dr.dres aftermath label. He had his shelved album 'murda weapon' (i think it was called) leaked But never released retail.

knocturnal is good he did a song with dre on chronic 2001i think it had a good instrumental.

hitman one of dre's ghost writers yeah?

^^Wouldnt be suprised. He has used a few lol

apparently royce wrote his 'message' track...not surprised really..

I got the impression Hitman produced most of Chronic 2001. I think he got co-producer credit and production credits on a few tracks (I don't have the album to hand) but reading between the lines I figured he ghost produced a lot of the stuff credited to Dre too.

sounds about right. Btw joell ortiz got a new track out today forgot the name of it though. Not a fan of joell ortiz at all.

Shugyosha writes...

I got the impression Hitman produced most of Chronic 2001

No Hittman didn't produce anything on 2001.

hittman's album that leaked was a bootleg, more than ¾ of those tracks weren't meant for the album

knoc-turn'al has had a drinking problem for the last few years, but is gearing up to release an album soon

all 4 members of slaughterhouse are meant to release ep's in july, with the album coming in august

Dr Dre for life

Best Rapper ever

^^ i wouldnt say that. Hes one of the best producers..wouldnt say rapper though

kray-z writes...

Remember west coast rapper knoc'turnal?

. The only last track he was on was put out on The Wash soundtrack.

kray-z writes...

And Hitmans album wasnt to bad either

I have 3 KnocTurnal albums:
*Knoc's Landin'
*L.A. Confidential Presents: * The Way I Am (2004)
*Return of the Hustler (2006)

According to the Wiki, i am missing 1, and theres another coming soon:

I have 2 Albums by Hittman:

2000 – Murder Weapon
2006 – Hittmanic Verses

..not sure if im missing any.

Yeah i got those too. Im sure he only had two albums (hitman) i forgot bout that versus album.

kray-z writes...

^^ i wouldnt say that. Hes one of the best producers..wouldnt say rapper though

dw man, its just "Gertzi" making useless posts on "jaybecks" account, he does it regularly, even when at my place :)

I already got tons of instrumentals an instrumental albums an mixtapes. Thanks though. Maybe the others here might be chasing after them.

-Joe- writes...

anyone picking up the new hoods album today?

I downloaded it (legally) at 12:30am. Still haven't listened to it properly though.

Not a fan of hill top hoods. Its great that theyre still doing their thing though.

50 Cent Set To Release Street LP, Soundscan Battle With Jay-Z?

In preparation for the release of his fourth studio album, New York rapper 50 Cent is getting ready to flood the streets with never before heard material.

According to MTV News, Fif will soon be releasing a street album entitled "War Angel LP" which features all new cuts.

"I'm fien'in' to get on the street, you already know what time it is," Fif is quoted as saying.

"I didn't want to write Angel Demon. It's not the contrast between good and bad. But ... if someone's at war, I'm sure they're saying their prayers.

They believe they have angels around them. What would you call an angel around a soldier at war?" "

That's why I titled it that," he added.

"Creatively, this is not even a mixtape. That's why I put LP next to it. ... My core audience will understand it immediately, and it's written specifically for that."

Fif is also planning on releasing three more mixtapes after "War Angel," in preperations for Before I Self Destruct's September release which many speculate may prompt yet another SoundScan battle for Queens rapper against Jay-Z who's releasing Blue Print 3 on September 11th (09).

"I have two other tapes to follow it," he revealed. "Fourth of July, Sincerely Southside Part 2 coming out with mostly '90s music on it. Timeless music, classic hit records.

Then, after that, there's a G-Unit mixtape. It's actually untitled. I'll be finished with it in the next day or so."

The War Angel LP drops next Tuesday (June, 16th, 2009) on ThisIs50.com.

DMX: "I Wanna Shut Niggas The F*ck Up," Reaches Out To Kanye

DMX is back with a vengeance. The Yonkers rapper who recently completed a 90-day stint behind bars recently gave word of his come back album to Vibe magazine.

"I'm working on the album right now," he explained in the interview.

"Getting this shit done. I got a few more songs to go. I got a crazy joint with Sean Kingston. flapping sick, yo. Fire. And I got some shit with Swizz that's ridiculous..."

X' also says he reached to Kanye West for some beats and has already gotten some tracks from Dame Grease.

"I just hit Kanye West the other day for some beats. Also, the same people that I been flapping with, like Dame Grease. I've been working on this project for so long, I forgot who else gave me flapping beats."

"I wanna shut niggas the flap up! I'm still on probation, so it is what it is. I'm just working man.

That's where my focus is, work...Hopefully [the album comes out] this year. I'm just getting it done. The release will be in the hands of the powers that be."

Prior to his prison term, X was working on a double lp entitled, Walk With Me Now, You'll Fly With Me Later. Walk With Me Now was said to be a traditional Hip Hop album while You'll Fly With Me Later was slated to be a gospel album.

The double lp was supposed to be released via BODOG Music to which X signed to after parting ways with Sony BMG.

No word on the faith of this project as of yet.

Game Plans Summer Takeover, Heads To New Zealand

This summer is shaping up to be thriving with new music as West Coast rapper The Game has tossed his hate into the mixtape race.

According to the "Wouldn't Get Far" hitmaker, there isn't another rapper who will "out-mixtape" him as he plans to drop a new release every week.

"This summer, it ain’t a nigga that’s gonna out-mixtape me," Game told MTV.

"I’m dropping a mixtape every week. It ain’t gonna be like no bullshit mixtape shit. I’m dropping mixtapes that sound better than people’s albums."

"The first one is gonna be the Bloody Thumb with the red thumbprint on the front," He continued.

The Game has some steep competition however, as his on-again-off-again nemesis, 50 Cent, and bi-Coastal rap group, Slaugtherhouse, have announced similar plans.

In related news, The Game will soon be heading to New Zealand for three shows.

He will be performing at the Logan Campbell center on August 12, TSB Arena in Wellington on August 14 and Rotorua's Sports Dome on August 15.

Game was scheduled to perform there in 2007 as part of the Roc the Block tour, but pulled out at the last minute.

The Game is the worst current rapper.

JB HiFi writes...

The Game is the worst current rapper.

current rapper?
is there even such thing as rap or hip hop anymore?
you're probably right, but play the game is pretty tight!

JB HiFi writes...

No Hittman didn't produce anything on 2001.

Ah yeah you're right, now I've checked I was confusing him with Mel-man.

JB HiFi writes...

The Game is the worst current rapper.

:O I disagree. The Game is one of the better modern rappers. He has great flow, decent lyrics, n keeps it hard. I don't see how anyone could rate him worst than lil wayne, 50cent..

Check out his songs "Too much", "My turn"

the game is decent?

every verse has him name dropping, talk about some "fresh air force ones" and how much of a blood he is

was a big fan when he was with jt in the bayarea...he is bred to beef tho

lol i remember reading somewhere he dropped dr.dre's name on his last cd over 60 times..

Start from scratch and never be friends two of his best cuts period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCzsCGIG4A&feature=related

The Game's Documentary record wasn't bad at all, Doctor's Advocate had about 5-6 good tracks, but goddamn his mixtape material is straight garbage....

And im not hating, I want Game to do well, but he aint developed any better lyrically since Documentary...

Yup I completely agree...he hasn't developed at all...

Documentry was good imo and the only one of his albums i can always go back and listen to. His mixtapes tend to be better than his albums which aint saying much lol. Think bout it though what rapper doesnt name drop lol. Jay-z done it all time back in the day an was constantly d i c k riding Biggie smalls. If he wasnt saying his name he would be using his raps in tracks. And Eminem was nearly as worse as for using dres name lol. Jadakiss was the same with biggie but not as bad.

Your right about the not developing lyrically part. if he aint saying dr.dre hes saying kanye west or jay than snoop an pac and ice cube.

Jayz is a boss...but he is a biter hard!..

Camron – swagger jacker ( really old but sums him up perfectly...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybEZF4Vbe3A&feature=related

eternal biter..his major track that got him major exposure was a pac track he ripped off...even tho they had beef with each other lol....

^Which cam track you mean? The ambitionz az a ridah beat (2pac)? they used hit em up too. And dr.dres- b i t c h e s aint s h i t (beat)

Camron – swagger jacker is the track cam released with examples of jays biting

Just got tixs to the games Melbourne show
Aug 7th at Festival Hall

http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/event/130042C6C07F44AA?artistid=945450&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=3

HAHA one of my mates in the UK is a MOD on this forum

http://dynastyentgroup.com/forum/index.php

And crooked I gave him and all the mods a shout out on a freestyle he done

Saw Bliss N Eso last night at Festival Hall, great show. Great vibe and they sounded heaps better then at the MCG for Sound Relief (they were good at MCG but hard to understand what they were saying then, heaps clearer last night!) I hadn't listened to Pegz & Diafric before but really enjoyed them as support acts as well, will have to track down some of their CD's. Overall definitely worth the $35!

Listening to Hilltops new CD, good impressions so far. Can't wait for July's show.

A mate recommended I grab a copy of Rhyme Asylum's (UK) album State of Lunacy...worth checking out if you like UK hiphop.

PS – I've started using Real Rap Talk (worth googling) as a good source for album info & access.

I've always found UK hiphop to more "intelligent" than US hiphop – something to do with the British English language perhaps, and this track really reinforces this.

Real hip hop right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwQay4QiOw

Makaveli2006 writes...

Real hip hop right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwQay4QiOw

Lyrical mastermind.

can't front tho...hes getting more money then half the rap industry lol

Def mid 90s joints:

Info For The Streets – Mood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm9iMHQT1pI

Karma – Mood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u1NKH_LelU

Green Paper – Microphone Terrorists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI1kjoJUO5A

From The Get Up – Bamboo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfMUvaKYpLU

So Cold – Combined Operation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMt-gSXQPe0

Cut That Weak Shit (Buckwild Remix) – Lace Da Booms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l06qQtfvKkU

Enjoy!

Im sick of hearing the term "Real Hip Hop"

Makaveli2006 writes...

Real hip hop right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwQay4QiOw

You're joking right...I just didn't get the joke until now, and I am amused :-D

If you're not joking you deserve to be shot for using the words "hiphop" and "Souljah Boy" in the same breath...

Smashing pumpkins version of never let me down again is much better than the original version by depeche mode. Fact :P

he was great last time he came down here in 2006...we rapped together Reunited and he gave me a hug...one of the best concerts I've been too

method man> joe budden

Makaveli2006 writes...

Real hip hop right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwQay4QiOw

i actually like this song more than "We Made You" or even "Crack a Bottle"

*flameproof suit on*

relapsed writes...

*flameproof suit on*

Only the lowest form of life flames someone just for liking something.

JB HiFi writes...

GZA/Genius is coming to Australia in September! He's performing at the Coaster Festival in NSW, no Melbourne shows announced yet.

I'm so excited, he's my favourite member of the Clan.

he was great last time he came down here in 2006...we rapped together Reunited and he gave me a hug...one of the best concerts I've been too

JB HiFi writes...

Only the lowest form of life flames someone just for liking something.

He is talking about liking Souljah Boy though....

This is why Slaughterhouse are your favorite rappers favorite rappers...

http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/2009/06/15/slaughterhouse-green-lantern-interview-x-freestyle-audio/

That D.O.A. freestyle was crazy.

Joe budden will always be rememberd as the 'pump, pump, pump it up" guy lol.

Crooked I and Royce are the only best ones in slaughter house imo.

btw anyone looking forward to wu-tangs new album? It comes out 30th june i think.

Ghostface next week! I can't flapping wait....Ironman!!!

which state?

Slaughterhouse boy band :)

http://www.streethop.com/videos/slaughterhouse-the-boy-band/

kray-z writes...

Crooked I and Royce are the only best ones in slaughter house imo.

What do you mean? they all spit that fire, there is no weakest link in slaughterhouse.

Makaveli2006 writes...

http://www.streethop.com/videos/slaughterhouse-the-boy-band/

HHAHAHAHA..Awesome post dude...lolol

Check the ortiz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfOQ6W-4fMk

Joell Ortiz – 125 Part One (The Bio)

dudes been bubbling for years..
Real Pun successor, flap fat joe...

Saigon is crazy 2

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/aSNe9ubYBQ2ydl4E
Mad new slaughterhouse interview during the group's "press day" last week.

DAAAAAAAAMN!

http://www.thebossboard.com/audio.php?sonid=90
New Slaughterhouse freestyle on green lantern radio over that new banging jay track...DOA

Check it out..ortiz just destroys it....jesus christ.......

$$DoLLaZ$$ writes...

which state?

Melburn!

Dam... Is he coming to Adelaide?

Anyone remember The Firm?? The were awesome. Tracks were dope and lyrics were mad...

Too bad they broke up.

Yeah got that album. My mate had the vinyl copy of it..dont know if he still has it though, i'll ask when i get time. he also had some run- dmc, LL Cool J, and boogie down production vinyls.

Makaveli2006 writes...

Real hip hop right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwQay4QiOw

Flava Flave this guy got mad skillz. Haha this guy is a joke.